UVA vs. Penn vs. NYU vs. GULC
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:24 pm
So I keep going back and forth on my law school decision, which means it's definitely time for TLS to weigh in. Here are the choices:
Major Factors:
--Career: would like opportunity to do BigLaw (probably law and business-related, possibly M&A or antitrust) in either NYC or DC, although I may want to move out west later in life (nationally portable degree would be a plus). Between NYC and DC, DC placement is more important to me, as I have significant family connections here and will definitely work here at some point. I have a very good network of legal contacts in DC, but none anywhere else.
--Location: from DC, so I like city life (although I'm not opposed to living outside a city as long as there's enough to do). I want to stay on the East Coast, as my SO will probably be working in DC. However, she could get transferred to NYC at any time during law school, so a location with accessibility to both places would be ideal. (We will probably be together long-term, which is why she's factoring in to the decision). I would like to be able to visit her 2x a month, ideally.
--Finances: somewhat debt averse, although I'm willing to take on loans if I believe it's worth it. I have a small amount of undergraduate debt (federal loans) that can be suspended while I'm in law school. I will be paying for law school on my own, because my parents were already amazing enough to pay for undergrad (read: loans).
Schools:
1) NYU (sticker)
--Career: places well in NYC, but I'm not sold on their focus in BigLaw/law and business.
--Location: I really like Greenwich village, but it would make getting back to DC more difficult than being at Penn/UVA.
--Finances: Ummm...sticker. Not cool. The main reason I'm 99.5% sure I'm not going there.
2) Penn ($60,000 total aid)
--Career: places very well in both DC and NY, although it seems to place better in NY than DC. Availability of the Wharton school is also a plus.
--Location: I actually really liked Philly during ASW (although I did like Center City better than the area right around Penn). The location between NYC and DC is also a huge plus, as I could easily visit my SO regardless of whether she's working in DC or NYC.
--Finances: I have a negotiation email in with the Penn Fin Aid folks, but I doubt they'll match UVA. Because Penn and UVA are pretty equal in a lot of other areas, this is the major difference between the two (and the reason why I'm leaning towards UVA).
3) UVA ($105,000 total aid)
--Career: Very, very impressed with the Career Services panel at the ASW. I'm also well connected with several UVA Law alums, which could potentially help my job prospects. Placement for my interests seems as good or better than Penn, and the Law and Business program is definitely something I'm interested in.
--Location: I really liked Charlottesville, which is freaking gorgeous. I'd prefer a city, to be honest, but Charlottesville seems to have plenty of things going on. The cons: Not as many buses/trains between DC and Charlottesville as there are between DC and Philly (making it harder to visit my SO), and it would be very hard to visit her if she shifted up to NYC. Also worth noting that I would get a car if I went to UVA, to make transportation/visiting easier.
--Finances: $105,000 is an awesome amount of money, and really hard to turn down. Combine that with awesome career prospects and a pretty great location, and UVA's my top choice over Penn at the moment.
4) GULC ($90,000 total aid, expires April 7)
--Career: GULC doesn't seem too interested in law and business, and their Biglaw placement isn't that great either. The one big factor that's preventing me from seriously considering GULC.
--Location: Staying in DC would be fantastic (I'd probably move in with my SO), although it might be time to experience something outside of DC after spending my entire life here.
--Finances: $90,000 is nice, but the self-destruction date on this offer is not. So if you're going to choose GULC, run (don't walk) to the poll.
Sorry about the really long post, but there are a lot of different things going into my decision. I'm leaning towards UVA, but Penn is still really close behind. Which one should I choose? And should GULC or NYU even be in the conversation?
Major Factors:
--Career: would like opportunity to do BigLaw (probably law and business-related, possibly M&A or antitrust) in either NYC or DC, although I may want to move out west later in life (nationally portable degree would be a plus). Between NYC and DC, DC placement is more important to me, as I have significant family connections here and will definitely work here at some point. I have a very good network of legal contacts in DC, but none anywhere else.
--Location: from DC, so I like city life (although I'm not opposed to living outside a city as long as there's enough to do). I want to stay on the East Coast, as my SO will probably be working in DC. However, she could get transferred to NYC at any time during law school, so a location with accessibility to both places would be ideal. (We will probably be together long-term, which is why she's factoring in to the decision). I would like to be able to visit her 2x a month, ideally.
--Finances: somewhat debt averse, although I'm willing to take on loans if I believe it's worth it. I have a small amount of undergraduate debt (federal loans) that can be suspended while I'm in law school. I will be paying for law school on my own, because my parents were already amazing enough to pay for undergrad (read: loans).
Schools:
1) NYU (sticker)
--Career: places well in NYC, but I'm not sold on their focus in BigLaw/law and business.
--Location: I really like Greenwich village, but it would make getting back to DC more difficult than being at Penn/UVA.
--Finances: Ummm...sticker. Not cool. The main reason I'm 99.5% sure I'm not going there.
2) Penn ($60,000 total aid)
--Career: places very well in both DC and NY, although it seems to place better in NY than DC. Availability of the Wharton school is also a plus.
--Location: I actually really liked Philly during ASW (although I did like Center City better than the area right around Penn). The location between NYC and DC is also a huge plus, as I could easily visit my SO regardless of whether she's working in DC or NYC.
--Finances: I have a negotiation email in with the Penn Fin Aid folks, but I doubt they'll match UVA. Because Penn and UVA are pretty equal in a lot of other areas, this is the major difference between the two (and the reason why I'm leaning towards UVA).
3) UVA ($105,000 total aid)
--Career: Very, very impressed with the Career Services panel at the ASW. I'm also well connected with several UVA Law alums, which could potentially help my job prospects. Placement for my interests seems as good or better than Penn, and the Law and Business program is definitely something I'm interested in.
--Location: I really liked Charlottesville, which is freaking gorgeous. I'd prefer a city, to be honest, but Charlottesville seems to have plenty of things going on. The cons: Not as many buses/trains between DC and Charlottesville as there are between DC and Philly (making it harder to visit my SO), and it would be very hard to visit her if she shifted up to NYC. Also worth noting that I would get a car if I went to UVA, to make transportation/visiting easier.
--Finances: $105,000 is an awesome amount of money, and really hard to turn down. Combine that with awesome career prospects and a pretty great location, and UVA's my top choice over Penn at the moment.
4) GULC ($90,000 total aid, expires April 7)
--Career: GULC doesn't seem too interested in law and business, and their Biglaw placement isn't that great either. The one big factor that's preventing me from seriously considering GULC.
--Location: Staying in DC would be fantastic (I'd probably move in with my SO), although it might be time to experience something outside of DC after spending my entire life here.
--Finances: $90,000 is nice, but the self-destruction date on this offer is not. So if you're going to choose GULC, run (don't walk) to the poll.
Sorry about the really long post, but there are a lot of different things going into my decision. I'm leaning towards UVA, but Penn is still really close behind. Which one should I choose? And should GULC or NYU even be in the conversation?