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dpk711 wrote:Yes or no? And explain.

What are your other options/career goals? Without some context, this discussion will jump into a million different directions.

Also: add a poll.

I do want to go to biglaw at first, eventually though I would like to practice international human rights law.

dpk711 wrote:I do want to go to biglaw at first, eventually though I would like to practice international human rights law.

flame.

Get more creative, OP. This is a pitiful attempt at a flame.

I apologize if it looks like a flame -- but due to past experiences living in the third world I really do want to do something with international human rights (I'm aware this subject is in hot debate in TLS circles). But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

TheFactor wrote:Get more creative, OP. This is a pitiful attempt at a flame.

Srs? I was joking its obvi not flame.

dpk711 wrote:I apologize if it looks like a flame -- but due to past experiences living in the third world I really do want to do something with international human rights (I'm aware this subject is in hot debate in TLS circles). But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

I wouldn't want to go to penn at sticker for nyc biglaw, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. It just all comes down to first year grades. You willing to gamble?

International human rights law is always a flame. Penn will give you 60/40 shot at NLJ 250 in NYC. You play roulette?

I wouldn't want to go to penn at sticker for nyc biglaw, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. It just all comes down to first year grades. You willing to gamble?

Says the man attending NYU at sticker.

thecilent wrote:

TheFactor wrote:Get more creative, OP. This is a pitiful attempt at a flame.

Srs? I was joking its obvi not flame.

How is someone saying he/she wants to do "international human rights law" 'obvi not a flame'?

thecilent wrote:

dpk711 wrote:I apologize if it looks like a flame -- but due to past experiences living in the third world I really do want to do something with international human rights (I'm aware this subject is in hot debate in TLS circles). But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

I wouldn't want to go to penn at sticker for nyc biglaw, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. It just all comes down to first year grades. You willing to gamble?

Don't median students at Penn still get decent jobs?

Veyron wrote:International human rights law is always a flame. Penn will give you 60/40 shot at NLJ 250 in NYC. You play roulette?

if roulette was 60/40 i'd play 40 hours a week for the rest of my life

dpk711 wrote:But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

Yep.

I've been putting together Big Law + clerkship stats for the past few years combined (including the highs and lows of the economy). When I'm done, I'll probably post the entire list to TLS. But the big surprises from the T14 area so far are that Georgetown places far worse than the T13, and that Penn places significantly better than NYU.

Obviously that's not true for NY specifically, but if you are willing to do Big Law in Philadelphia, you can't really do better than Penn for Big Law+Article III clerkships. The numbers are T6 worthy.

Veyron wrote:International human rights law is always a flame. Penn will give you 60/40 shot at NLJ 250 in NYC. You play roulette?

I wouldn't want to go to penn at sticker for nyc biglaw, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. It just all comes down to first year grades. You willing to gamble?

Says the man attending NYU at sticker.

Not at sticker. And it still scares me to go there any pay so much and hope for ny biglaw, but I'll gamble on it.

Attorney wrote:

dpk711 wrote:But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

Yep.

I've been putting together Big Law + clerkship stats for the past few years combined (including the highs and lows of the economy). When I'm done, I'll probably post the entire list to TLS. But the big surprises from the T14 area so far are that Georgetown places far worse than the T13, and that Penn places significantly better than NYU.

Obviously that's not true for NY specifically, but if you are willing to do Big Law in Philadelphia, you can't really do better than Penn for Big Law+Article III clerkships. The numbers are T6 worthy.

thank you!

Attorney wrote:

dpk711 wrote:But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

Yep.

I've been putting together Big Law + clerkship stats for the past few years combined (including the highs and lows of the economy). When I'm done, I'll probably post the entire list to TLS. But the big surprises from the T14 area so far are that Georgetown places far worse than the T13, and that Penn places significantly better than NYU.

Obviously that's not true for NY specifically, but if you are willing to do Big Law in Philadelphia, you can't really do better than Penn for Big Law+Article III clerkships. The numbers are T6 worthy.

I've heard rumors to this effect from a 2L b/c of class size. It would be interesting if this was verified.

dpk711 wrote:

thecilent wrote:

dpk711 wrote:I apologize if it looks like a flame -- but due to past experiences living in the third world I really do want to do something with international human rights (I'm aware this subject is in hot debate in TLS circles). But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

I wouldn't want to go to penn at sticker for nyc biglaw, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. It just all comes down to first year grades. You willing to gamble?

Don't median students at Penn still get decent jobs?

Yeah. But you said biglaw in ny or la

thecilent wrote:

dpk711 wrote:

thecilent wrote:

dpk711 wrote:I apologize if it looks like a flame -- but due to past experiences living in the third world I really do want to do something with international human rights (I'm aware this subject is in hot debate in TLS circles). But in terms of biglaw in NY or even LA, is Penn worth it at sticker?

I wouldn't want to go to penn at sticker for nyc biglaw, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't. It just all comes down to first year grades. You willing to gamble?

Don't median students at Penn still get decent jobs?

Yeah. But you said biglaw in ny or la

LA and NY are 2 entirely different ballgames. Schools that are worth sticker for LA biglaw include H, Y and S.

so you're saying it's worth it for NY biglaw but not for LA biglaw?

dpk711 wrote:so you're saying it's worth it for NY biglaw but not for LA biglaw?

It depends on you appetite for risk but thats how I see it.

dpk711 wrote:so you're saying it's worth it for NY biglaw but not for LA biglaw?

Im saying its not worth it to go there at sticker thinking you are def getting nyc biglaw (forget about la). If you are open to philly or maybe no biglaw, then you could feel better about attending.

But if you are going there strictly to try and get nyc biglaw, then its a gamble

TheFactor wrote:

thecilent wrote:

TheFactor wrote:Get more creative, OP. This is a pitiful attempt at a flame.

Srs? I was joking its obvi not flame.

How is someone saying he/she wants to do "international human rights law" 'obvi not a flame'?

stupid question...what is a flame? sorry

sonervous88 wrote:

TheFactor wrote:

thecilent wrote:

TheFactor wrote:Get more creative, OP. This is a pitiful attempt at a flame.

Srs? I was joking its obvi not flame.

How is someone saying he/she wants to do "international human rights law" 'obvi not a flame'?

stupid question...what is a flame? sorry

Flame.

sonervous88 wrote:

TheFactor wrote:

thecilent wrote:

TheFactor wrote:Get more creative, OP. This is a pitiful attempt at a flame.

Srs? I was joking its obvi not flame.

How is someone saying he/she wants to do "international human rights law" 'obvi not a flame'?

stupid question...what is a flame? sorry

kinda like a troll