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Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:25 pm
by Selfridge
Info:

I am a NJ resident who will live at home while attending Fordham or Seton Hall
I have general interests in intellectual property and public interest law
I have no specific regional preferences

I have very little UG debt but I am still debt averse and for this reason I am most hesitant about attending Fordham. UIUC is tempting although with COL (even though it is relatively low) I'm looking at a debt load of close to 100K. And Seton Hall for free is alluring although I am concerned about job prospects coming out.

What would you do in my situation? Thanks everyone for your input! 8)

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:51 pm
by adt231
seton hall full tuition scholly seems to be the most tempting given your 0$ COL expenses. If you don't land a job when you graduate you still have a JD on your resume and didn't pay a dime to get it.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:00 pm
by 09042014
Selfridge wrote:Info:

I am a NJ resident who will live at home while attending Fordham or Seton Hall
I have general interests in intellectual property and public interest law
I have no specific regional preferences

I have very little UG debt but I am still debt averse and for this reason I am most hesitant about attending Fordham. UIUC is tempting although with COL (even though it is relatively low) I'm looking at a debt load of close to 100K. And Seton Hall for free is alluring although I am concerned about job prospects coming out.

What would you do in my situation? Thanks everyone for your input! 8)
If you are interested in IP, do you have the background to actually practice? An engineering or science degree?

What kind of stipulations are on that Steton hall scholarship.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:01 pm
by bigkahuna2020
FWIW, Seton Hall has a pretty good name within the NJ patent community

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:02 pm
by bigkahuna2020
Desert Fox wrote:
Selfridge wrote:Info:

I am a NJ resident who will live at home while attending Fordham or Seton Hall
I have general interests in intellectual property and public interest law
I have no specific regional preferences

I have very little UG debt but I am still debt averse and for this reason I am most hesitant about attending Fordham. UIUC is tempting although with COL (even though it is relatively low) I'm looking at a debt load of close to 100K. And Seton Hall for free is alluring although I am concerned about job prospects coming out.

What would you do in my situation? Thanks everyone for your input! 8)
If you are interested in IP, do you have the background to actually practice? An engineering or science degree?

What kind of stipulations are on that Steton hall scholarship.
Seton Hall's stips are usually top 50%, no gradations.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:04 pm
by CanadianWolf
Seton Hall.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:06 pm
by 09042014
Steton Hall, but drop out if you lose your scholly.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:08 pm
by Verity
Do you want to practice in NJ/NY? If so, I'd say Fordham has the best reputation, but not enough of one to forgo a full-ride. SHU Pirates, FTW.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:09 pm
by bigkahuna2020
Desert Fox wrote:Steton Hall, but drop out if you lose your scholly.
Not to be a dick, but please don't take advice about NY/NJ law from someone who doesn't even know the name of one of your major choices.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:10 pm
by 09042014
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Steton Hall, but drop out if you lose your scholly.
Not to be a dick, but please don't take advice about NY/NJ law from someone who doesn't even know the name of one of your major choices.
TBF if the school wasn't a pile of shit I'd get it's name right.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:17 pm
by bigkahuna2020
Desert Fox wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Steton Hall, but drop out if you lose your scholly.
Not to be a dick, but please don't take advice about NY/NJ law from someone who doesn't even know the name of one of your major choices.
TBF if the school wasn't a pile of shit I'd get it's name right.
Ha I know many Seton Hall grads who make significantly more money than you probably ever will. It is in no way a piece of shit---it's overpriced, but the generous scholarships and fallback NJ clerkships certainly alleviate that.

You know nothing about Jersey or NYC, so you should see your way out.

For a forum that talks incessantly about how regional law schools are, there are a shitload of flyover country tards talking out of their ass about areas they know nothing about.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:20 pm
by 09042014
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Steton Hall, but drop out if you lose your scholly.
Not to be a dick, but please don't take advice about NY/NJ law from someone who doesn't even know the name of one of your major choices.
TBF if the school wasn't a pile of shit I'd get it's name right.

Ha I know many Seton Hall grads who make significantly more money than you probably ever will. It is in no way a piece of shit---it's overpriced, but the generous scholarships and fallback NJ clerkships certainly alleviate that.

You know nothing about Jersey or NYC, so you should see your way out.

For a forum that talks incessantly about how regional law schools are, there are a shitload of flyover country tards talking out of their ass about areas they know nothing about.
What kind of retarded logic is this?

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:20 pm
by apollo13
ReTake

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:29 pm
by Verity
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Steton Hall, but drop out if you lose your scholly.
Not to be a dick, but please don't take advice about NY/NJ law from someone who doesn't even know the name of one of your major choices.
TBF if the school wasn't a pile of shit I'd get it's name right.
Ha I know many Seton Hall grads who make significantly more money than you probably ever will. It is in no way a piece of shit---it's overpriced, but the generous scholarships and fallback NJ clerkships certainly alleviate that.

You know nothing about Jersey or NYC, so you should see your way out.

For a forum that talks incessantly about how regional law schools are, there are a shitload of flyover country tards talking out of their ass about areas they know nothing about.

But wait: he said it was a pile of shit.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:30 pm
by bigkahuna2020
Verity wrote: But wait: he said it was a pile of shit.

:roll:

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:32 pm
by bigkahuna2020
Desert Fox wrote: What kind of retarded logic is this?
Do you know ANYTHING about NJ law firms?

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:33 pm
by fatduck
heard someone was mad. ran here.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:40 pm
by 09042014
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: What kind of retarded logic is this?
Do you know ANYTHING about NJ law firms?
I was referring to your part about knowing rich SH grads who have more money than me.

It was stupid because:

1) Measuring a school by outliers is fucking stupid. By any objective measure SH is shit, pure shit. It may have a leg up in a shitty secondary market, but only 10%ish are getting big law. It might be the best, but it's still shit.

2) The part of about me is odd.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:45 pm
by thecilent
I would take seton hall and pray to get top 1510%.

(also: tag - love this shitshow.)

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:46 pm
by FuManChusco
fatduck wrote:heard someone was mad. ran here.
I got here just in time.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:47 pm
by bigkahuna2020
Desert Fox wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: What kind of retarded logic is this?
Do you know ANYTHING about NJ law firms?
I was referring to your part about knowing rich SH grads who have more money than me.

It was stupid because:

1) Measuring a school by outliers is fucking stupid. By any objective measure SH is shit, pure shit. It may have a leg up in a shitty secondary market, but only 10%ish are getting big law. It might be the best, but it's still shit.

2) The part of about me is odd.
So you know nothing about NJ law firms. Thanks for that.

And the people I know making that money are not working in BigLaw.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:48 pm
by fatduck
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: What kind of retarded logic is this?
Do you know ANYTHING about NJ law firms?
I was referring to your part about knowing rich SH grads who have more money than me.

It was stupid because:

1) Measuring a school by outliers is fucking stupid. By any objective measure SH is shit, pure shit. It may have a leg up in a shitty secondary market, but only 10%ish are getting big law. It might be the best, but it's still shit.

2) The part of about me is odd.
So you know nothing about NJ law firms. Thanks for that.

And the people I know making that money are not working in BigLaw.
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Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:49 pm
by bigkahuna2020
fatduck wrote: Image

I agree, the Bronx sucks.

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:49 pm
by FuManChusco
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
bigkahuna2020 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: What kind of retarded logic is this?
Do you know ANYTHING about NJ law firms?
I was referring to your part about knowing rich SH grads who have more money than me.

It was stupid because:

1) Measuring a school by outliers is fucking stupid. By any objective measure SH is shit, pure shit. It may have a leg up in a shitty secondary market, but only 10%ish are getting big law. It might be the best, but it's still shit.

2) The part of about me is odd.
So you know nothing about NJ law firms. Thanks for that.

And the people I know making that money are not working in BigLaw.
what are these steton hall grads doing that requires a JD and pays 6 figures?

Re: Fordham (5k/yr), UIUC (20k/yr), or Seton Hall (Full Ride)

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:50 pm
by thecilent
bigkahuna2020 wrote:So you know nothing about NJ law firms. Thanks for that.

And the people I know making that money are not working in BigLaw.
I know stuff about NJ law firms. And I know people at SH. You are making it sound like it is common to get good jobs (let alone big $$ jobs) from there, which it isn't, which is DF's point.