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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:37 pm
by TubzEsq
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Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:39 pm
by joemoviebuff
Visit them all and pick the one you like the most.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:43 pm
by src42
I picked Michigan because it's probably where I'm going and I think it's awesome. But there's probably no wrong answer.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:47 pm
by TheStrand
src42 wrote:I picked Michigan because it's probably where I'm going and I think it's awesome. But there's probably no wrong answer.
Second this. Mich also has great dual degree programs and is FWIW supposed to be great with international law (though I am always skeptical of people talking about a school's "specialities."). I would also look into the study abroad programs but really as src said, there's probably no wrong answer, and I am also biased.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:09 pm
by 09042014
Dual degrees are worthless.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:13 pm
by Miracle
Michigan!!!!!!!

Especially now that it climbed to 7th place.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:18 pm
by Curry
Desert Fox wrote:Dual degrees are worthless.
inb4 aschup

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:19 pm
by 09042014
Curry wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Dual degrees are worthless.
inb4 aschup
Never trust a ginger unless he agrees with me.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:31 pm
by Curry
Desert Fox wrote:
Curry wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Dual degrees are worthless.
inb4 aschup
Never trust a ginger unless he agrees with me.
When they agree with you, doesn't that mean you're wrong?

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:37 pm
by 09042014
Curry wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Curry wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Dual degrees are worthless.
inb4 aschup
Never trust a ginger unless he agrees with me.
When they agree with you, doesn't that mean you're wrong?
Gingers aren't always wrong, they are just untrustworthy.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:38 pm
by Curry
Desert Fox wrote:
Curry wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Curry wrote: inb4 aschup
Never trust a ginger unless he agrees with me.
When they agree with you, doesn't that mean you're wrong?
Gingers aren't are always wrong, and they are just untrustworthy.
ftfy

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:44 pm
by FlanAl
if SO is interested in "international law" and you guys got scholarships at all these schools then you should probably look at some of the higher ranked schools you got into. The best way to do international law is to either target a magic circle firm or to get into academia.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:34 pm
by Lawlcat
src42 wrote:I picked Michigan because it's probably where I'm going and I think it's awesome. But there's probably no wrong answer.

I love Michigan, and that's what I voted for. However, I completely agree that you should visit all three and investigate the "feel" of each school (as well as the quality of the faculty, etc.) to make your decision.

As for the markets you mentioned:

NYC: considered the "easiest" biglaw market. No ties required. ("So you'd like to practice law in New York. Fascinating. Why on earth would you want to come HERE for that?" <-- Extremely Infrequently Asked Question)

DC: no ties required here, and as far as I can tell picking a local school (e.g. GULC) does absolutely nothing for you. However, it's the exact opposite of NYC in that it's BRUTALLY selective.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:00 pm
by AreJay711
This is a ranking of world wide reputation of universities. Might matter for the international aspect but probably not.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... kings.html

Also, I think you might want to think about whether you would rather work in Chicago or the South more just in case you change your mind.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:33 pm
by théo
AreJay711 wrote:This is a ranking of world wide reputation of universities. Might matter for the international aspect but probably not.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... kings.html

Also, I think you might want to think about whether you would rather work in Chicago or the South more just in case you change your mind.
I've been living in Paris for the past three years, and you would be surprised at the international reputation of U.S. schools abroad. I assure you that none of the three schools in your poll have any name recognition here. People are obsessed with 1. Harvard 2. Berkeley 3. anything located in New York City or with "New York" in the name.

It's sort of like how Americans think the Sorbonne is the best school ever in France, but it has the reputation of Random State School here. :|

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:31 pm
by Miracle
théo wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:This is a ranking of world wide reputation of universities. Might matter for the international aspect but probably not.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... kings.html

Also, I think you might want to think about whether you would rather work in Chicago or the South more just in case you change your mind.
I've been living in Paris for the past three years, and you would be surprised at the international reputation of U.S. schools abroad. I assure you that none of the three schools in your poll have any name recognition here. People are obsessed with 1. Harvard 2. Berkeley 3. anything located in New York City or with "New York" in the name.

It's sort of like how Americans think the Sorbonne is the best school ever in France, but it has the reputation of Random State School here. :|
I'm from Europe and one thing i can say is that if someone was to go and say Berkley-they would say Berkley what? Berkley is not a popular school in Europe.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:44 pm
by TheStrand
Miracle wrote:I'm from Europe and one thing i can say is that if someone was to go and say Berkley-they would say Berkley what? Berkley is not a popular school in Europe.
Berkley isn't famous in America either =)

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:51 pm
by vamedic03
AreJay711 wrote:This is a ranking of world wide reputation of universities. Might matter for the international aspect but probably not.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... kings.html

Also, I think you might want to think about whether you would rather work in Chicago or the South more just in case you change your mind.
What matters is what the international legal community thinks of certain schools. FWIW, those rankings are geared towards science/research.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:54 pm
by MrPapagiorgio
théo wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:This is a ranking of world wide reputation of universities. Might matter for the international aspect but probably not.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... kings.html

Also, I think you might want to think about whether you would rather work in Chicago or the South more just in case you change your mind.
I've been living in Paris for the past three years, and you would be surprised at the international reputation of U.S. schools abroad. I assure you that none of the three schools in your poll have any name recognition here. People are obsessed with 1. Harvard 2. Berkeley 3. anything located in New York City or with "New York" in the name.

It's sort of like how Americans think the Sorbonne is the best school ever in France, but it has the reputation of Random State School here. :|
By this logic, NYLS would be a top school. Even the French aren't that stupid.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:56 pm
by Miracle
MrPapagiorgio wrote:
théo wrote:
AreJay711 wrote:This is a ranking of world wide reputation of universities. Might matter for the international aspect but probably not.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... kings.html

Also, I think you might want to think about whether you would rather work in Chicago or the South more just in case you change your mind.
I've been living in Paris for the past three years, and you would be surprised at the international reputation of U.S. schools abroad. I assure you that none of the three schools in your poll have any name recognition here. People are obsessed with 1. Harvard 2. Berkeley 3. anything located in New York City or with "New York" in the name.

It's sort of like how Americans think the Sorbonne is the best school ever in France, but it has the reputation of Random State School here. :|
By this logic, NYLS would be a top school. Even the French aren't that stupid.
+1 that statement just doesn't make sense.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:20 pm
by showNprove
The schools with the best international reputations are the Ivy League schools (yes, including Cornell) plus Stanford. After that, they look at the U.S. News rankings, including the historical ones. With that in mind, I'd give Michigan a slight edge over Virginia unless you have personal reasons to prefer UVa.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:43 pm
by Zeus
This poll and the associated comments tend to make me believe TLS users do nothing more than refer to USNWR most recent rankings and formulate an opinion 100% based on that. Do people really think that Michigan's stock has significantly risen simply because it is now #7 on this years list?

There are plenty of other reasons to choose a law school besides USNWR. That said, all these are good choices. I wouldn't let rankings factor in at all, the difference between 7, 9, and 11 are inconsequential when you see the actual scores the schools received from the USNWR.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:46 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
joemoviebuff wrote:Visit them all and pick the one you like the most.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:47 pm
by dabbadon8
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:
joemoviebuff wrote:Visit them all and pick the one you like the most.

Re: Duke vs Michigan vs UVA

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:49 pm
by 005618502
AreJay711 wrote:This is a ranking of world wide reputation of universities. Might matter for the international aspect but probably not.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... kings.html

Also, I think you might want to think about whether you would rather work in Chicago or the South more just in case you change your mind.
This is ridiculous. This means absolutely nothing.