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Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:32 am
by sojuteacher
and Chicago number 1?
Malcolm Gladwell's ranking system has some interesting results. He uses value vs. LSAT vs. faculty publishing. Better than US News system?
http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/articl ... ekly_email
Here are the ranks:
1) Chicago
2) BYU
3) Harvard
4) Yale
5) Texas
6) Virginia
7) Colorado
8 Alabama
9) Stanford
10) Pennsylvania
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:34 am
by HBK
Base it on jobs instead of bullshit and we can talk.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:40 am
by twert
faculty publishing is the biggest load of shit.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:49 am
by Pricer
Plus you can't weigh the LSAT as 40% and not consider GPA.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:51 am
by dissonance1848
Agree with above, total bullshit. The only thing that matters is prestige whoring and job placement. We're talking about fucking professional schools, not the life of the mind.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:51 am
by fatduck
i think there should be one giant law school for the entire country.
boom. no more rankings.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:54 am
by Grizz
twert wrote:faculty publishing is the biggest load of shit.
This. Barely anyone reads their articles except other profs. It's intellectual masturbation at its finest.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:57 am
by NU_Jet55
I guess BYU is better than Cooley...
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:00 am
by World B. Free
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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:03 am
by bk1
Yes.
/thread
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:05 am
by Pricer
The point is that all rankings are shit, but some people actually pay attention to the USNWR rankings, which is the only ranking system that does correlate (loosely, and very loosely after T18) to hiring practices.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:40 am
by imbored25
fatduck wrote:i think there should be one giant law school for the entire country.
boom. no more rankings.
+1
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:44 am
by Bildungsroman
Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:59 am
by folkitup123
Outliers on CD during long car rides = F**king Fantastic
Malcolm Gladwell's Law School Rankings = Meh.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:01 am
by paulinaporizkova
short answer: no
long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooo
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:02 am
by dr123
sure why not, its not like the rankings mean anything anyways
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:13 am
by OGR3
Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.
This.
Here's my ranking system:
Rank based on *real* employment statistics and bar passage rates, LSAT and GPA can be thrown in there too, but stuff like library size and acceptance rate are too easily gamed.
Top 20 schools are ranked as national schools
What is now 21- ~125 would be regionally ranked
All other schools would be demolished or turned into campus food courts
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:16 am
by 0L Hoping for 1
Should BYU be ranked number 2? No
Should Chicago be ranked number 1? YES!

Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:28 am
by sojuteacher
as a Utah boy going to UChi next year, I admit I love these rankings.
All that ranking is bullshit talk aside, its pretty interesting that BYU gets No. 2 with its 164 LSAT median when the LSAT is weighted at 40%. Faculty publishing and value have to be huge for the school to get that high.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:35 am
by ArchRoark
No
/thread
EDIT: Apparently my post constituted trolling.

I didn't realize this was such a serious thread.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:36 am
by casterfield
Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.
I don't think he proposes any rankings system. I thought that this was his point in the article.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:06 am
by Pricer
casterfield wrote:Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.
I don't think he proposes any rankings system. I thought that this was his point in the article.
The point of the article was for him to make some ludicrous claim (BYU as #2) to get publicity.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:08 am
by Bildungsroman
casterfield wrote:Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.
I don't think he proposes any rankings system. I thought that this was his point in the article.
idk, I don't have a New Yorker subscription so I couldn't read the whole thing.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:22 am
by JG Hall
I guess we'll know come the rapture.
Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:25 am
by Hey-O
OGR3 wrote:Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.
This.
Here's my ranking system:
Rank based on *real* employment statistics and bar passage rates, LSAT and GPA can be thrown in there too, but stuff like library size and acceptance rate are too easily gamed.
Top 20 schools are ranked as national schools
What is now 21- ~125 would be regionally ranked
All other schools would be demolished or turned into campus food courts
+1 Nice. I would support this plan.