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dabbadon8 wrote:This is not a flame. Her parents have no idea about the legal market. All they know is they want her close to home and have heard in the news about people struggling with student debt. Can you help provide concrete reasons that can be given to her parents to help get them off her back. Thanks.

Moral_Midgetry wrote:

dabbadon8 wrote:This is not a flame. Her parents have no idea about the legal market. All they know is they want her close to home and have heard in the news about people struggling with student debt. Can you help provide concrete reasons that can be given to her parents to help get them off her back. Thanks.

How about back the fuck out of her business.

LLB2JD wrote:I guess the only upside is that she'll literally be graduating with $0 since she'd be going from home

Upton Sinclair wrote:

LLB2JD wrote:I guess the only upside is that she'll literally be graduating with $0 since she'd be going from home

And ten years later, she'll still have $0 and be at home.

One current professor told me, “Our student body now is one of the four or five worst in America.” The instability has also wreaked havoc on the school’s reputation: in the 2009 U.S. News & World Report law school rankings, Ave Maria tied for last place in the peer-assessment category, the most important measure in determining a school’s standing. (The school was not officially ranked because U.S. News doesn’t rank schools that land in the bottom tier.) Meanwhile, there are signs that Monaghan’s foundation, which funds the law school and the university, is on the verge of running out of money, in part because Monaghan bet his fortune—and the future of his nonprofits—on the now-crumbling Florida real estate market. Earlier this year, Ave Maria University’s second-longest-standing professor resigned, but not before sending a letter to administrators expressing his alarm at the school’s financial straits. “I fear that all of us (to different degrees) are participating in something that we may later deeply regret,” he wrote, “namely selling to young people and their families [an] educational product that we do not have sufficient reason to believe can be delivered.”

Meanwhile, in June, the U.S. Department of Education reported that Ave Maria School of Law had failed its financial responsibility test, the only law school in the nation to do so.

Upton Sinclair wrote:

LLB2JD wrote:I guess the only upside is that she'll literally be graduating with $0 since she'd be going from home

And ten years later, she'll still have $0 and be at home.

fatduck wrote:send them this article http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/colleg ... he_sky.php

One current professor told me, “Our student body now is one of the four or five worst in America.” The instability has also wreaked havoc on the school’s reputation: in the 2009 U.S. News & World Report law school rankings, Ave Maria tied for last place in the peer-assessment category, the most important measure in determining a school’s standing. (The school was not officially ranked because U.S. News doesn’t rank schools that land in the bottom tier.) Meanwhile, there are signs that Monaghan’s foundation, which funds the law school and the university, is on the verge of running out of money, in part because Monaghan bet his fortune—and the future of his nonprofits—on the now-crumbling Florida real estate market. Earlier this year, Ave Maria University’s second-longest-standing professor resigned, but not before sending a letter to administrators expressing his alarm at the school’s financial straits. “I fear that all of us (to different degrees) are participating in something that we may later deeply regret,” he wrote, “namely selling to young people and their families [an] educational product that we do not have sufficient reason to believe can be delivered.”

Meanwhile, in June, the U.S. Department of Education reported that Ave Maria School of Law had failed its financial responsibility test, the only law school in the nation to do so.

Finally, the group retreated to Monaghan’s office, a two-story suite with raw-silk ceilings and leather floors

JusticeHarlan wrote:http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/cl ... l=avemaria

Only ~20% of the class was comfortable reporting their salary information - and this is for those who graduated in 2008! Imagine what its like now.

Tell her to go to FSU or UIUC, especially if she can get one of them throws a little more money at her.
EDIT: of course, knowing both these schools (and all the others she's gotten into) are regional.

Fred_McGriff wrote:There are three two good law schools in Florida. If she wants to be close, she should go to one of them.

rad law wrote:

Fred_McGriff wrote:There are three two good law schools in Florida. If she wants to be close, she should go to one of them.

FeelTheHeat wrote:

rad law wrote:

Fred_McGriff wrote:There are three two good law schools in Florida. If she wants to be close, she should go to one of them.

Rad, which school got lopped off there lol?

romothesavior wrote:

FeelTheHeat wrote:

rad law wrote:

Fred_McGriff wrote:There are three two good law schools in Florida. If she wants to be close, she should go to one of them.

Rad, which school got lopped off there lol?

I can answer that for rad because I know his thoughts on this. UF and FSU. Stetson, Miami, etc. do not make the cut.