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How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:03 am
by Rmdxthx
How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:04 am
by ndirish2010
Not another Cooley thread. Can we just get the moderators to lock these things?
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:05 am
by DeeCee
ndirish2010 wrote:Not another Cooley thread. Can we just get the moderators to lock these things?
IBTL, I was thinking the same thing.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:06 am
by NorCalBruin
IBTL! Heyo flame.
But no, it's not a good school. In fact, it's something of a running joke on this forum... and not in a good way. Even if it's free, the job prospects aren't good. With 165 you'll be able to go somewhere much better.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:09 am
by DeeCee
wish a mod would lock this. The Cooley threads are really getting out of hand on TLS.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:14 am
by Adjudicator
NorCalBruin wrote:IBTL! Heyo flame.
But no, it's not a good school. In fact, it's something of a running joke on this forum... and not in a good way. Even if it's free, the job prospects aren't good. With 165 you'll be able to go somewhere much better.
I propose that this thread be locked, and then stickied for all eternity.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:15 am
by DeeCee
me too. you should report it.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:29 am
by Rmdxthx
Rmdxthx wrote:How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
It's not. I am serious
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:35 am
by johnnyutah
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:41 am
by artichoke
It's a great school. You should definitely go.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:27 pm
by androstan
Rmdxthx wrote:How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
It's ranked the 12th best law school in the US:
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Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:54 pm
by Law Sauce
O.M.G.
i thought it was a joke that people said that Cooley made their own rankings. but they actually did. wow.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:16 pm
by WVUguy11
That may have been one of the funniest things I have ever seen.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:12 pm
by androstan
I wonder why Yale dropped a spot this year? Maybe some previous 3L's, in their recently-graduated haze of elation, busted some of the chairs in the law library? That could have really hurt them.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:22 pm
by paulinaporizkova
androstan wrote:Rmdxthx wrote:How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
It's ranked the 12th best law school in the US:
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oh my god. my day has been made. georgetown at #2 and UVA at #4??? maybe i should reconsider my first choice.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:35 pm
by androstan
paulinaporizkova wrote:androstan wrote:Rmdxthx wrote:How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
It's ranked the 12th best law school in the US:
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oh my god. my day has been made. georgetown at #2 and UVA at #4??? maybe i should reconsider my first choice.
Eh, Harvard is the only truly national one. GNV are really good though, but are essentially peer schools. Go to the one where you want to live/practice and/or the one that offers you the most money.
TMU, CYG rounds out the T10. After that it's pretty regional. A lot of people opt out of the T10 and go to Cooley on a full scholarship and see pretty good Michigan prospects afterward.
People who talk about T12, CYGUT, are just blatantly Cooley trolling. Cooley students are a bit insecure and have a tendency to do that. The UMinn kids have a little more self respect and confidence so you don't usually see T11 trolling.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:37 pm
by BlueDiamond
androstan wrote:paulinaporizkova wrote:androstan wrote:Rmdxthx wrote:How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
It's ranked the 12th best law school in the US:
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oh my god. my day has been made. georgetown at #2 and UVA at #4??? maybe i should reconsider my first choice.
Eh, Harvard is the only truly national one. GNV are really good though, but are essentially peer schools. Go to the one where you want to live/practice and/or the one that offers you the most money.
TMU, CYG rounds out the T10. After that it's pretty regional. A lot of people opt out of the T10 and go to Cooley on a full scholarship and see pretty good Michigan prospects afterward.
People who talk about T12, CYGUT, are just blatantly Cooley trolling. Cooley students are a bit insecure and have a tendency to do that. The UMinn kids have a little more self respect and confidence so you don't usually see T11 trolling.
I laughed at this
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:40 pm
by 2011Law
the self rank by cooley is pretty comical. My guess is that the professors there are embarrassed by it.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:42 pm
by luckyme
1st page IBTL
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:43 pm
by HowdyYall
androstan wrote:Rmdxthx wrote:How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
It's ranked the 12th best law school in the US:
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there's no way the person who created this did so with a straight face. I mean c'mon, no way yale should have been in the top 10
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:47 pm
by androstan
HowdyYall wrote:androstan wrote:Rmdxthx wrote:How is this law school? It has been sending mails to me for months. Full tuition waived.
( International student. December LSAT 165, GPA 3.62, so it looks like that I will get in if I apply)
It's ranked the 12th best law school in the US:
--LinkRemoved--
there's no way the person who created this did so with a straight face. I mean c'mon, no way yale should have been in the top 10
A lot of people feel that way. Yale shamelessly games the rankings. A few years ago they doubled the amount of floor space in their library by just cutting each floor in half. Now Yale kids climb a little stepladder through a hole in the new "ceiling" to go from i.e. floor 1A to 1B.
It's extreme, but it works.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:58 pm
by dougroberts
The rationale for creating the Cooley Rankings are equally comical as the outcome that places said school above "mediocre" schools such as Univ. of Penn., UCLA, and Univ. of Chicago.
Pursuing the General Introduction to the
Judging the Law Schools rankings, one will find this passage:
It was to provide an option to this heavy reliance on subjectivity and the growing popularity of the US News rankings that Judging the Law Schools was written.
A prudent reader will notice that the sentence is passive, not active. A passive sentence is often used when the actor (who does the verb) is unknown, or as in this case, when the writer wants to hide the actor from the reader. Here, the actor is Cooley which created the laughable rankings. To hide any obvious biases, the author of the Introduction used passive voice to hide Cooley.
Long story short, Cooley uses these rankings to lure students who are probably unfit for law but nevertheless are so inclined as to got to law school. With clever tactics like hiding that they in fact are the only school using the
Judging the Law Schools rankings, Cooley is able to attract generations of unsuspecting students.
CRITERIA USED TO MAKE COOLEY RANKINGS (I put the important ones in red - the rest are not important to ranking a school in my opinion):
- Total J.D. Enrollment
Total Minority Enrollment
Percentage of Minority Students
Median Percentile Undergraduate Grade Point Average
Median Percentile LSAT Scores
Total Applications
Number of Full-Time Faculty
Number of Part-Time Faculty
Total Teaching Faculty
Number of Minority Faculty
Student-Faculty Ratio
Typical First-Year Section Size
Number of Course Titles Beyond the First Year
Full-Time Resident Tuition
Full-Time Non-resident Tuition
Percentage of Students Receiving Grants/Scholarships
Median Amount of Grants/Scholarships
Total Volumes in Library
Total Titles in Library
Total Serial Subscriptions
Number of Professional Librarians
Library Hours per Week with Professional Staff
Total Library Hours per Week
Library Seating Capacity
Number of Networked Computers Available for Use by Students
Library Total Square Footage
Non-Library Total Square Footage (hahahahah!)
Total Law School Square Footage
Percentage of Graduates Employed
Number of States in which Graduates are Employed
First-Time Bar Passage Percentage
I wonder what the rankings would be like only with the red ones above?
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:45 pm
by Top14Hope
I seriously never laugh. But holy shit, this is funny!
America, FUCK YEAH!
I've literally been giggling over this thread for about 15 minutes at this point.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:53 pm
by soullesswonder
No offense intended to anyone in this thread, but I have no idea how you can reach 500+ posts on TLS and not know about the Cooley rankings. It's the main reason it gets singled out for abuse above and beyond the usual TTT slights.
Re: How is Thomas M. Cooley law school?
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:54 pm
by 99.9luft
ndirish2010 wrote:Not another Cooley thread. Can we just get the moderators to lock these things?
