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New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:55 pm
by TrustMeI'mAnActress
May be a stupid question, but anyone know when the new US News and World Report rankings are released? Any predictions on if/how rankings will change??

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:11 pm
by ran12
TrustMeI'mAnActress wrote:May be a stupid question, but anyone know when the new US News and World Report rankings are released? Any predictions on if/how rankings will change??
Heard around March 15.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 pm
by r6_philly
ran12 wrote:
TrustMeI'mAnActress wrote:May be a stupid question, but anyone know when the new US News and World Report rankings are released? Any predictions on if/how rankings will change??
Heard around March 15.
Actually 4/8/2011 or shortly after, because current year paid access to their premium site expires 4/7/2011

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:19 pm
by thexfactor
hopefully wustl jumps usc

... yes I know that wouldn't mean a god damn thing on the employment front....

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:41 pm
by vicuna
In terms of predictions, the only real data we have to go by are the 2013 medians: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=128236

Based purely on those numbers, one could argue that NYU and Duke will gain ground (both +1 on LSAT median) and Berkeley (-1) will lose some. So, I'll predict that NYU supplants Chicago again as #5, Boalt drops below Penn, and Duke ties UVA again at #10.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:43 pm
by r6_philly
vicuna wrote:In terms of predictions, the only real data we have to go by are the 2013 medians: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=128236

Based purely on those numbers, one could argue that NYU and Duke will gain ground (both +1 on LSAT median) and Berkeley (-1) will lose some. So, I'll predict that NYU supplants Chicago again as #5, Boalt drops below Penn, and Duke ties UVA again at #10.
Is that going to make Penn T6? :shock: :shock: :shock:

When do new building get counted? I know the middle all have new buildings coming, probably keeping them where they are.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:47 pm
by vicuna
r6_philly wrote:
vicuna wrote:In terms of predictions, the only real data we have to go by are the 2013 medians: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=128236

Based purely on those numbers, one could argue that NYU and Duke will gain ground (both +1 on LSAT median) and Berkeley (-1) will lose some. So, I'll predict that NYU supplants Chicago again as #5, Boalt drops below Penn, and Duke ties UVA again at #10.
Is that going to make Penn T6? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Almost. I'm predicting:

4) Columbia
5) NYU
6) Chicago
7) Penn
8 ) Berkeley
9) Michigan
10) UVA
10) Duke

Penn's new building is going to be nice, but the construction is certainly an eyesore on Sansom.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:49 pm
by r6_philly
vicuna wrote:
r6_philly wrote:
vicuna wrote:In terms of predictions, the only real data we have to go by are the 2013 medians: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=128236

Based purely on those numbers, one could argue that NYU and Duke will gain ground (both +1 on LSAT median) and Berkeley (-1) will lose some. So, I'll predict that NYU supplants Chicago again as #5, Boalt drops below Penn, and Duke ties UVA again at #10.
Is that going to make Penn T6? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Almost. I'm predicting:

4) Columbia
5) NYU
6) Chicago
7) Penn
8 ) Berkeley
9) Michigan
10) UVA
10) Duke

Penn's new building is going to be nice, but the construction is certainly an eyesore on Sansom.
Lets make NYU/Chicago/Penn tie for 6th to shake the earth a bit.

No one walks down Sansom. So it's ok.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:55 pm
by NoleinNY
Predicting FSU jumps UF based solely on the Governor's Cup victory back in November. UM drops down to tie with Stetson.












Hmm, this whole "make up rankings" thing is fun.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:03 pm
by stratocophic
thexfactor wrote:hopefully wustl jumps usc

... yes I know that wouldn't mean a god damn thing on the employment front....
LSN makes it look like we're shooting for a 168 median, but Illinois definitely is as well so who knows if that's doable. Vandy moving to a 169 creates a to be filled at 168, but WUSTL probably has a little bit of an inside track against Illinois due to private v. public, funding for scholarships, and location. If the admissions office is smart, they'll sacrifice some of the huge class size to which they've expanded over the past few years in order to make a numbers jump more manageable. Pretty entertaining to keep tabs of on LSN every so often, it's like some kind of pointless horse race. I bet we'll at least be tied with USC this year though.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:54 pm
by Casey2889
chance that SLS reclaims #2?

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:14 pm
by Longhorn88
wtf no cooley?

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:14 pm
by r6_philly
Longhorn88 wrote:wtf no cooley?
They publish their own, they don't need US News.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:01 am
by thelaststraw05
NoleinNY wrote:Hmm, this whole "make up rankings" thing is fun.
Whatever school I decide to attend will certainly jump at least 3 spots. When USNWR sees my awesomeness radiating from campus they won't be able to stop themselves.

Edit: To clarify, that means if I attend Yale it will jump from 1 to -2. Out of respect for my incredible aura USNWR will leave -1, 0, and 1 blank.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:19 am
by thecilent
Here's to hoping NYU jumps passed cls and chi!!!

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:20 am
by r6_philly
thecilent wrote:Here's to hoping NYU jumps passed cls and chi!!!

NYU may not be up, but Chi should be down.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:21 am
by thecilent
r6_philly wrote:
thecilent wrote:Here's to hoping NYU jumps passed cls and chi!!!

NYU may not be up, but Chi should be down.
I can live with that

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:22 am
by rundoxierun
Casey2889 wrote:chance that SLS reclaims #2?
Zero. Harvard's hiring spree plus the new wasserstein building ended that possibility.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:23 am
by r6_philly
tkgrrett wrote:
Casey2889 wrote:chance that SLS reclaims #2?
Zero. Harvard's hiring spree plus the new wasserstein building ended that possibility.
US News cop out like all the other rankings they have and have HYS tied 1?

Check out the CS rankings, there is no way we have a 4 way tie, how the heck is anyone going to choose???

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:25 am
by thecilent
r6_philly wrote:
tkgrrett wrote:
Casey2889 wrote:chance that SLS reclaims #2?
Zero. Harvard's hiring spree plus the new wasserstein building ended that possibility.
US News cop out like all the other rankings they have and have HYS tied 1?

Check out the CS rankings, there is no way we have a 4 way tie, how the heck is anyone going to choose???
:lol:

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:37 am
by Casey2889
tkgrrett wrote:
Casey2889 wrote:chance that SLS reclaims #2?
Zero. Harvard's hiring spree plus the new wasserstein building ended that possibility.
SLS just built a new building as well, and made a big hire in october (donohue from YLS). considering that SLS has a smaller faculty, i think this is fairly significant. early returns from LSN additionally suggest that LSAT median is rising (from 170 to 171), which traditionally has been holding the school back. i think it could jump.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:38 am
by bostlaw
NoleinNY wrote:Predicting FSU jumps UF based solely on the Governor's Cup victory back in November. UM drops down to tie with Stetson.












Hmm, this whole "make up rankings" thing is fun.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:47 am
by vanwinkle
tkgrrett wrote:
Casey2889 wrote:chance that SLS reclaims #2?
Zero. Harvard's hiring spree plus the new wasserstein building ended that possibility.
I have to echo r6's question about when new buildings are counted. Wasserstein Hall isn't open yet and won't open for another year. Will that count for this year's rankings?

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:53 am
by rundoxierun
Casey2889 wrote:
tkgrrett wrote:
Casey2889 wrote:chance that SLS reclaims #2?
Zero. Harvard's hiring spree plus the new wasserstein building ended that possibility.
SLS just built a new building as well, and made a big hire in october (donohue from YLS). considering that SLS has a smaller faculty, i think this is fairly significant. early returns from LSN additionally suggest that LSAT median is rising (from 170 to 171), which traditionally has been holding the school back. i think it could jump.
The rankings between HYS are driven almost entirely by per student spending. I dont think a point increase in LSAT median would make much of a diff.

Re: New US News Rankings

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:52 pm
by whitman
Anyone think Texas is going down? It's medians are low relative to its ranking.