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The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:29 am
by flcath
I dunno if this has been brought up yet, but there's an awesome profile of UC Irvine here.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:49 pm
by BeachandRun23
Didnt UC irvine give free tuition to the whole first class? So all that nonsense about the high tuition is unapplicable to them.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:19 pm
by 09042014
BeachandRun23 wrote:Didnt UC irvine give free tuition to the whole first class? So all that nonsense about the high tuition is unapplicable to them.
First class, not every class.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:26 pm
by BeachandRun23
Desert Fox wrote:
BeachandRun23 wrote:Didnt UC irvine give free tuition to the whole first class? So all that nonsense about the high tuition is unapplicable to them.
First class, not every class.
Didnt they give a 40% scholarship to everyone this year? So to date, no one has paid anything close to sticker. So why they are mentioning that, I have no idea.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:27 pm
by 09042014
BeachandRun23 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
BeachandRun23 wrote:Didnt UC irvine give free tuition to the whole first class? So all that nonsense about the high tuition is unapplicable to them.
First class, not every class.
Didnt they give a 40% scholarship to everyone this year? So to date, no one has paid anything close to sticker. So why they are mentioning that, I have no idea.
Because the school is going to eventually charge people that. Probably within a year or two.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:08 pm
by Reedie
Desert Fox wrote: Because the school is going to eventually charge people that. Probably within a year or two.
Yes, but they will almost certainly be accredited by then, so most of the logic of that post fails.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:12 pm
by 09042014
Reedie wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: Because the school is going to eventually charge people that. Probably within a year or two.
Yes, but they will almost certainly be accredited by then, so most of the logic of that post fails.
True. The shtick about it being unaccredited is silly. It will be.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:44 pm
by BeachandRun23
Reedie wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: Because the school is going to eventually charge people that. Probably within a year or two.
Yes, but they will almost certainly be accredited by then, so most of the logic of that post fails.
Eaxctly. Plus they also knock the school for charging so much and having no alumni/career stats which they will also have by that time. As for the people that attended now, when they have no alumni/career stats, they havent paid anything near the sticker.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:46 pm
by 09042014
BeachandRun23 wrote:
Reedie wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: Because the school is going to eventually charge people that. Probably within a year or two.
Yes, but they will almost certainly be accredited by then, so most of the logic of that post fails.
Eaxctly. Plus they also knock the school for charging so much and having no alumni/career stats which they will also have by that time. As for the people that attended now, when they have no alumni/career stats, they havent paid anything near the sticker.
They won't have an alumni network worth a damn for 10 years.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:49 pm
by BeachandRun23
Desert Fox wrote:
BeachandRun23 wrote:
Reedie wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: Because the school is going to eventually charge people that. Probably within a year or two.
Yes, but they will almost certainly be accredited by then, so most of the logic of that post fails.
Eaxctly. Plus they also knock the school for charging so much and having no alumni/career stats which they will also have by that time. As for the people that attended now, when they have no alumni/career stats, they havent paid anything near the sticker.
They won't have an alumni network worth a damn for 10 years.
As long as they keep the class sizes REALLY SMALL for the first decade or so, I think theyll be fine.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:55 pm
by 20160810
When they stop bribing people to choose UCI over UCLA and USC, they'll stop having students with UCLA/USC numbers. Not drinking the UCI koolaid at all

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:55 pm
by Borhas
the truth is California didn't need another law school, good or not, privately funded or not...

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:03 pm
by BeachandRun23
Borhas wrote:the truth is California didn't need another law school, good or not, privately funded or not...
That is true. If UC Irvine makes it into the top 20 (i think this was the dean's goal, wasnt it?) then there will be 5 law schools from california in the top 20 lol.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:19 am
by SrLaw
BeachandRun23 wrote:
Borhas wrote:the truth is California didn't need another law school, good or not, privately funded or not...
That is true. If UC Irvine makes it into the top 20 (i think this was the dean's goal, wasnt it?) then there will be 5 law schools from california in the top 20 lol.

Will not happen.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:21 am
by megaTTTron
SBL wrote:When they stop bribing people to choose UCI over UCLA and USC, they'll stop having students with UCLA/USC numbers. Not drinking the UCI koolaid at all
this. but i'd go UCI w/ $$$ over USC/UCLA no $$$ if I wanted socal.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:49 am
by flcath
SrLaw wrote:
BeachandRun23 wrote:
Borhas wrote:the truth is California didn't need another law school, good or not, privately funded or not...
That is true. If UC Irvine makes it into the top 20 (i think this was the dean's goal, wasnt it?) then there will be 5 law schools from california in the top 20 lol.

Will not happen.
These claims (top 20, top 8, top 14...) are really irritating. I would have noting against UCI--beyond the fact that it's a new law school in an era when we need to be eliminating law schools--were it not for these speculations.

Is this hype a necessary component of Chemerinsky's plan?

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:59 am
by MrAnon
SrLaw wrote:
BeachandRun23 wrote:
Borhas wrote:the truth is California didn't need another law school, good or not, privately funded or not...
That is true. If UC Irvine makes it into the top 20 (i think this was the dean's goal, wasnt it?) then there will be 5 law schools from california in the top 20 lol.

Will not happen.
Who cares if it happens. The more law schools in the top 20 then the more the degree is degraded. Your average interviewer at any biglaw firm wont be able to tell the difference between Irvine, Hastings, and UCLA for that matter.

University of California pretty clearly is an absolutely mismanaged organization. Prime example is the embarrassing tuition fiasco.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:47 am
by worldtraveler
MrAnon wrote:
SrLaw wrote:
BeachandRun23 wrote:
Borhas wrote:the truth is California didn't need another law school, good or not, privately funded or not...
That is true. If UC Irvine makes it into the top 20 (i think this was the dean's goal, wasnt it?) then there will be 5 law schools from california in the top 20 lol.

Will not happen.
Who cares if it happens. The more law schools in the top 20 then the more the degree is degraded. Your average interviewer at any biglaw firm wont be able to tell the difference between Irvine, Hastings, and UCLA for that matter.

University of California pretty clearly is an absolutely mismanaged organization. Prime example is the embarrassing tuition fiasco.
Future lawyers are bad at math.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:49 am
by BeachandRun23
MrAnon wrote:Who cares if it happens. The more law schools in the top 20 then the more the degree is degraded.

Well, it would probably have to replace another school. So I dont see how it would degrade the degree. You cant have 25 schools ranked in the top 20 lol

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:12 am
by d34d9823
MrAnon wrote:Who cares if it happens. The more law schools in the top 20 then the more the degree is degraded. Your average interviewer at any biglaw firm wont be able to tell the difference between Irvine, Hastings, and UCLA for that matter.

University of California pretty clearly is an absolutely mismanaged organization. Prime example is the embarrassing tuition fiasco.
Is this like an experimental piece to see how many logical fallacies you can fit into a paragraph?

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:41 am
by Hannibal
That blog is pretty terrible.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:33 pm
by California Babe
MrAnon wrote:Your average interviewer at any biglaw firm wont be able to tell the difference between Irvine, Hastings, and UCLA for that matter.
LOLOLOLOLOL

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:59 pm
by badfish
d34dluk3 wrote: Is this like an experimental piece to see how many logical fallacies you can fit into a paragraph?
This comment did not get nearly enough love. Well done, d34dluk3.

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:05 pm
by d34d9823
badfish wrote:
d34dluk3 wrote: Is this like an experimental piece to see how many logical fallacies you can fit into a paragraph?
This comment did not get nearly enough love. Well done, d34dluk3.
<3

Re: The Truth about UC Irvine

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:10 pm
by Doritos
The most curious thing to me is why the blog states that the top 8 is worth going to at sticker and anything else you should have full ride or job lined up before going to school. It's off topic but I haven't really seen anyone say top 8 or full ride before.