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Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:36 pm
by MysticalWheel
Random thought: I was wondering what would be the rank of the top 6 schools, as reported by USWNR, based on prestige of name to the layperson? I'm thinking something like this:
1.) Harvard
2/3.) Tie between Stanford and Yale
4/5.) Tie between Columbia/NYU
6.) Chicago
Any thoughts?
MW
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:38 pm
by im_blue
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
NYU
Chicago
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:40 pm
by The Gentleman
I'd say
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
Georgetown
(Georgetown law has some serious lay prestige)
EDIT: Princeton Law School would be third. Just tell some idiot you go to Princeton Law School and I guarantee they Ooh and Aah.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:41 pm
by 4for44
The Gentleman wrote:I'd say
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
Georgetown
(Georgetown law has some serious lay prestige)
This + NYU and Chicago only have limited regional lay prestige
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:43 pm
by cinephile
The average layperson probably thinks both Chicago and NYU are public, state universities. I've seen this happen far too many times with Chicago.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:44 pm
by wildcathighfive
i would argue chicago has a very minimal amount of lay prestige.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:46 pm
by rayiner
Chicago has zero lay prestige, and Columbia's is pretty close to zero outside the NE.
Harvard
Yale
Georgetown
Duke
Stanford
Cornell
NYU
<person's state school>
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:46 pm
by James Bond
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Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:48 pm
by Cupidity
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
Notre Dame
Cooley
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:49 pm
by MysticalWheel
The Gentleman wrote:
EDIT: Princeton Law School would be third. Just tell some idiot you go to Princeton Law School and I guarantee they Ooh and Aah.
Probably same for Brown, lol.
MW
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:50 pm
by James Bond
MysticalWheel wrote:The Gentleman wrote:
EDIT: Princeton Law School would be third. Just tell some idiot you go to Princeton Law School and I guarantee they Ooh and Aah.
Probably same for Brown, lol.
MW
Brown and Dartmouth don't carry prestige
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:52 pm
by arism87
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Princeton
4. Stanford
5. Columbia
6. Georgetown
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:53 pm
by IAFG
wildcathighfive wrote:i would argue chicago has a very minimal amount of lay prestige.
it is the least panty-dropping school in Chicago, which is sad because the student body does not have much else going for it in terms of being able to affect panty movement.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:29 pm
by czelede
Harvard
Yale
Georgetown
Stanford
Cornell
(For law schools that actually exist, that is.)
Everything else from here on down is a crapshoot depending on the education and exposure of your layperson. I know people that ARE in law school (tier 1, too) that thought Cornell was top 5.
Chicago = public school in the city, often confused with the University of Illinois in Chicago
NYU = big public NYC school that the Olsen twins go to
UPenn = Penn State (we all know this, though)
Columbia =
a) South America?
b) Oh like in Gossip Girl?
c) (if you're from the midwest) Oh yeah, the one in Chicago?*
UVa probably takes the cake for the least lay prestige in the T14, ever
*As you may gather from this, there is a Columbia College in Chicago
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:42 pm
by IAFG
czelede wrote:
UVa probably takes the cake for the least lay prestige in the T14, ever
no way, everyone i worked with in DC still thinks i am crazy for not going there
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:50 pm
by artichoke
rayiner wrote:Chicago has zero lay prestige, and Columbia's is pretty close to zero outside the NE.
Harvard
Yale
Georgetown
Duke
Stanford
Cornell
NYU
<person's state school>
+1, honestly Chicago sounds to the untrained ear like a bootleg for-profit, IMHO.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:52 pm
by artichoke
My list would be:
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Stanford
Cornell
Georgetown
Berkeley
In that order.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:53 pm
by James Bond
rayiner wrote:Columbia's is pretty close to zero outside the NE.
Although in the northeast and the mid-atlantic, everyone is well aware of its awesomeness. that should count for something.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:54 pm
by James Bond
artichoke wrote:My list would be:
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Stanford
Cornell
Georgetown
Berkeley
In that order.
Berkeley is well known, although I wouldn't call a school that everyone thinks is full of a bunch of douchebag hippies "prestigious"
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:54 pm
by arism87
artichoke wrote:My list would be:
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Stanford
Cornell
Georgetown
Berkeley
In that order.
Mind if I ask where you're from?
Found Berkeley's inclusion interesting, lol
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:55 pm
by AreJay711
artichoke wrote:rayiner wrote:Chicago has zero lay prestige, and Columbia's is pretty close to zero outside the NE.
Harvard
Yale
Georgetown
Duke
Stanford
Cornell
NYU
<person's state school>
+1, honestly Chicago sounds to the untrained ear like a bootleg for-profit, IMHO.
When I got their pamphlet in the mail when applying to undergrad I just threw it away lol. If I could go back and go anywhere now it would be my first choice.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:57 pm
by rayiner
James Bond wrote:rayiner wrote:Columbia's is pretty close to zero outside the NE.
Although in the northeast and the mid-atlantic, everyone is well aware of its awesomeness. that should count for something.
I think Columbia's prestige is too regional for my list. Same thing with Penn and Berkeley. People on the west coast think that Berkeley is like Harvard, but that reputation doesn't carry. Meanwhile, everyone thinks Georgetown is a top law school, regardless of where you are in the country.
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:58 pm
by IAFG
AreJay711 wrote:
When I got their pamphlet in the mail when applying to undergrad I just threw it away lol. If I could go back and go anywhere now it would be my first choice.
TEH RIGOR?
Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:59 pm
by James Bond
rayiner wrote:James Bond wrote:rayiner wrote:Columbia's is pretty close to zero outside the NE.
Although in the northeast and the mid-atlantic, everyone is well aware of its awesomeness. that should count for something.
I think Columbia's prestige is too regional for my list. Same thing with Penn and Berkeley. People on the west coast think that Berkeley is like Harvard, but that reputation doesn't carry. Meanwhile, everyone thinks Georgetown is a top law school, regardless of where you are in the country.
Fair enough. I had no idea Columbia's prestige wasn't nation-wide. Weird because I knew Penn wasn't and I'm from PA.

Re: Rank based on name prestige
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:00 pm
by 4for44
arism87 wrote:artichoke wrote:My list would be:
Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Stanford
Cornell
Georgetown
Berkeley
In that order.
Mind if I ask where you're from?
Found Berkeley's inclusion interesting, lol
Berkeley is really well respected in the West. I'm from CO and I would list it similarly