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What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:00 pm
by tomtom23
No one in my family works in law. This is an honest question. I really don't know. Is it the money? Is it the prestige? Level of client? Other?

I'd love to see some stats.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:04 pm
by prezidentv8
tomtom23 wrote:No one in my family works in law. This is an honest question. I really don't know. Is it the money? Is it the prestige? Level of client? Other?

I'd love to see some stats.
THE PRESTIGE IS HUGE. THEY SHOULD CALL IT HUGELAW!! YES I AM USING ALL CAPS!!!! ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

On a serious note, it's the money and the hours and the number of lawyers employed by the firm (I think, though I be relatively uninformed compared to most of the board).

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:06 pm
by beachbum
Big payrolls, big salaries, big hours, big offices, big cases, big names.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:07 pm
by plenipotentiary
I think the Big in BigLaw refers to the size of the firms (the number of lawyers, the number of offices).

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:10 pm
by Patriot1208
penises

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:11 pm
by reverendt
Big Money, Big Firm (in terms of employees), Big Cocaine Addiction!

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:11 pm
by reasonable_man
plenipotentiary wrote:I think the Big in BigLaw refers to the size of the firms (the number of lawyers, the number of offices).

Nope.. Its a combo of things, such as, pay, type of cases, type of client, hours, asthetic of office, prestige, etc.


For instance, Wilson Elser has like 1000 attorney... It is NOT a biglaw firm.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:13 pm
by plenipotentiary
reasonable_man wrote:
plenipotentiary wrote:I think the Big in BigLaw refers to the size of the firms (the number of lawyers, the number of offices).

Nope.. Its a combo of things, such as, pay, type of cases, type of client, hours, asthetic of office, prestige, etc.


For instance, Wilson Elser has like 1000 attorney... It is NOT a biglaw firm.
Are market-paying boutiques considered BigLaw?

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:30 pm
by reasonable_man
plenipotentiary wrote:
reasonable_man wrote:
plenipotentiary wrote:I think the Big in BigLaw refers to the size of the firms (the number of lawyers, the number of offices).

Nope.. Its a combo of things, such as, pay, type of cases, type of client, hours, asthetic of office, prestige, etc.


For instance, Wilson Elser has like 1000 attorney... It is NOT a biglaw firm.
Are market-paying boutiques considered BigLaw?

Nope. Not big enough in head count...

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:32 pm
by Informative
Biglaw just means law firms with over 400/500 attorneys. They pay the most and they do high end legal work for big companies. There are some boutiques that are still prestigious but not "biglaw."

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:13 pm
by JG Hall
Informative wrote:Biglaw just means law firms with over 400/500 attorneys. They pay the most and they do high end legal work for big companies. There are some boutiques that are still prestigious but not "biglaw."
no, e.g. Boies, Wachtell

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:25 pm
by Fred_McGriff
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Ghetto boots
With the pimped out Gucci Suits
Ain't got no job, but I'm still fly

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:26 pm
by Aqualibrium
Fred_McGriff wrote: Ghetto boots
With the pimped out Gucci Suits
Ain't got no job, but I'm still fly
It's "Gator boots." What the hell is a ghetto boot.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:32 pm
by Fred_McGriff
Aqualibrium wrote:
Fred_McGriff wrote: Ghetto boots
With the pimped out Gucci Suits
Ain't got no job, but I'm still fly
It's "Gator boots." What the hell is a ghetto boot.
No idea. Haven't heard that one in a long time, for some reason the term "Big Tymers" flashed through my head when I saw this thread.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:39 pm
by sissyclark
It's probably not just the money, I'd say it's more for the options after you want to leave. I don't think most people stay in biglaw longer than a few years, but after that, people can usually go wherever they want (in-house, government, midlaw firms, public interest, etc.) After getting a judicial clerkship, it's the best possible starting step to one's career.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:44 pm
by SpiteFence
Informative wrote:Biglaw just means law firms with over 400/500 attorneys. They pay the most and they do high end legal work for big companies. There are some boutiques that are still prestigious but not "biglaw."
Some would consider single major-market (NYC/Chi/LA) market paying firms with 200+ attorneys to be "biglaw" (ex. Wachtell), buts its an arbitrary designation anyway.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:50 pm
by sundance95
beachbum wrote:Big payrolls, big salaries, big hours, big offices, big cases, big names.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:33 pm
by JollyGreenGiant
Fred_McGriff wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
Fred_McGriff wrote: Ghetto boots
With the pimped out Gucci Suits
Ain't got no job, but I'm still fly
It's "Gator boots." What the hell is a ghetto boot.
No idea. Haven't heard that one in a long time, for some reason the term "Big Tymers" flashed through my head when I saw this thread.
One of the Big Tymers actually made a song called "Real Big" which was in my head throughout this whole thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXSyFaeX9No

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:15 pm
by FuManChusco
my penis

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:24 pm
by El_Gallo
FuManChusco wrote:my penis
classy

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:27 pm
by Ratchet Jackson
Aqualibrium wrote:
Fred_McGriff wrote: Ghetto boots
With the pimped out Gucci Suits
Ain't got no job, but I'm still fly
It's "Gator boots." What the hell is a ghetto boot.
This just made my morning.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:33 pm
by Gotti
RJ127 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
Fred_McGriff wrote: Ghetto boots
With the pimped out Gucci Suits
Ain't got no job, but I'm still fly
It's "Gator boots." What the hell is a ghetto boot.
This just made my morning.
LOLLLLL me too. as soon as i saw that i was like wtf is a ghetto boot...but i see someone had already thought the same thing.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:34 pm
by mrmangs
Aqualibrium wrote:
Fred_McGriff wrote: Ghetto boots
With the pimped out Gucci Suits
Ain't got no job, but I'm still fly
It's "Gator boots." What the hell is a ghetto boot.
LOL!

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:35 pm
by FuManChusco
El_Gallo wrote:
FuManChusco wrote:my penis
classy
Haha, well this thread was a little odd so I figured I'd spice it up. Biglaw is what everyone else said. It doesn't have a strict definition. Usual characterisitcs include big firms, long hours, and high salaries.

Re: What's so Big about BigLaw?

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:46 pm
by fragged
FuManChusco wrote:
El_Gallo wrote:
FuManChusco wrote:my penis
classy
Haha, well this thread was a little odd so I figured I'd spice it up. Biglaw is what everyone else said. It doesn't have a strict definition. Usual characterisitcs include big firms, long hours, and high salaries.
And having to kiss ass like you've never kissed ass before.

And understanding the following equation:

(Your Worth As a Human Being = Number of Hours You Bill)