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The 170 is a retake after a poor 161. I have also studied abroad twice. However I received a MIP my first semester freshman year.

Do I have a chance at USC or UCLA? I am also applying to Loyola...

Any feedback would be appreciated...

God I hope so. I'm 170/3.4 and I'll be applying to both schools.

In state or out of state?

In state...Will that make a difference?

Yep. You should be fine if you're in state.

In at both

in and in

That is great news if it comes true. Should I make one an ED? Also should I write separate personal statements?

Thanks for the replys

Don't waste your ED, you're almost sure to get in -- use it somewhere ranked higher that you're also interested in, or just don't bother with it.

The PS thing is up to you. Certainly not necessary though.

How high do you think I can reach? I would like to stay in CA or go to NY or Mass...

PAR12 wrote:How high do you think I can reach? I would like to stay in CA or go to NY or Mass...

MVP are possibilities, maybe NYU with ED.

You could almost definitely get Cornell, and one of MVP might be interested. Don't think you can get much higher than that.

johnnyutah wrote:Yep. You should be fine if you're in state.

wrong. CA schools have been giving preference to out-of-staters because they desperately need the higher tuition fees for one year.

I'm sorry but what does MVP stand for?

Thanks again.

Oh...Michigan, Virginia, Penn....

sanetruth wrote:

johnnyutah wrote:Yep. You should be fine if you're in state.

wrong. CA schools have been giving preference to out-of-staters because they desperately need the higher tuition fees for one year.

Doesn't matter -- OPs numbers are good enough, regardless.

vespertiliovir wrote:

sanetruth wrote:

johnnyutah wrote:Yep. You should be fine if you're in state.

wrong. CA schools have been giving preference to out-of-staters because they desperately need the higher tuition fees for one year.

Doesn't matter -- OPs numbers are good enough, regardless.

Yup. There's debate about which applicants are favored by UCLA, but (at the very least) we know that they don't favor CA residents. Also, they take your highest LSAT score- so don't worry about the retake.

Also, would it make a difference either way if I apply for the joint JD/ Masters program?

sanetruth wrote:

johnnyutah wrote:Yep. You should be fine if you're in state.

wrong. CA schools have been giving preference to out-of-staters because they desperately need the higher tuition fees for one year.

Damn. I was rejected from UCLA in 2008 with a 3.4/171, and I figured it was cause I was out of state. Nevermind, then.

Shoot for Berkey. You should be fine at usc/ucla.

My advice having had similar stats last cycle is apply EARLY. I was waitlisted a ton of places at schools both higher and lower ranked and I applied mid-late January.