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Sentry wrote:Trying to decide weather to ED to CCN. The 45k is an approxamation based on LSN.

I have numbers that lsn would suggests would give me 45 or 54k at mich (3.49/173 bout everyone with that combo got something like that). I don't really have a shot from what I've seen but if you like CCN at sticker I think you should ED cause what do you have to lose? If you get rejected then the money, if you get it, will still be there.

Career goals?

If big city + big law is what you want, ED at CCN. You'll have much better odds and you'll pay the debt down eventually.

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Take the LSAT, apply, then ask.

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Sentry wrote:

rad law wrote:Take the LSAT, apply, then ask.

3.62 172.

I have a feeling that without EDing I'm going to get WL'd from all of CCN.

That's a very valid worry.

rad law wrote:Take the LSAT, apply, then ask.

QF trying to be a dick haha

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Because it's a close call, you should ED at CCN. The reason for that is you still might not get in, and then you're back at square one anyway. Why not let fate decide?

check out the "School OCI Data" thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=375

the placement differences ITE between CCN and the remainder of the T14 seem to be significant. if you are operating under the assumption that this ITE is the new paradigm, which I think is a safe assumption, at least for the class you'll be in, i'd say it's not worth the 45K.

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Sentry wrote:

disco_barred wrote:Because it's a close call, you should ED at CCN. The reason for that is you still might not get in, and then you're back at square one anyway. Why not let fate decide?

I've been leaning toward EDing Chicago but the last couple days the idea of 150k debt has been making me wary.

LOL. Try ~$195k COA.

Don't ED NYU though.

Sentry wrote:

disco_barred wrote:Because it's a close call, you should ED at CCN. The reason for that is you still might not get in, and then you're back at square one anyway. Why not let fate decide?

I've been leaning toward EDing Chicago but the last couple days the idea of 150k debt has been making me wary.

You should decide this based on where you want to work and where you have ties. If you want to work in one of the bigger markets and you don't have any ties to secondary ones, I' d bit the bullet and ED to Chicago. If you have other preferences then I think you may want to reconsider. I wouldn't ED to NYU unless you want to work in NYC, it wouldn't be worth it otherwise.

i didn't get CCN or money at MVP. maybe i just suck especially hard but the money isn't guaranteed. i wish i'd ED'd UChi.

IAFG wrote:i didn't get CCN or money at MVP. maybe i just suck especially hard but the money isn't guaranteed. i wish i'd ED'd UChi.

Best avatar I've seen in a while.

I think for academia, CCN is a better bet.

At the same time, I know two people who similar scholarships at M and V over H and don't regret that decision.

Sentry wrote:Trying to decide weather to ED to CCN. The 45k is an approxamation based on LSN.

Personally, I wouldn't ED. I'm really skeptical of ED contracts because I like to have options and make choices. However, if you definitely want to go to one of CCN then an ED does make sense as you are marginal there.

I had similar numbers, and did not ED anywhere. I got waitlisted at Chicago (probably the school I respect most out of CCN) and admitted to NYU. I didn't apply to Columbia, because the place just doesn't interest me. I also got waitlisted at Michigan and Virginia. With your numbers Michigan and Virginia aren't going to want to throw huge scholarships at you (barring some truly amazing softs), and because they know you will likely have several options they may YP you. Being a semi-splitter makes the cycle fairly uncertain I think, and I'd keep an open mind.

I wound up accepting a scholly at Duke, a place I didn't think I'd go before I started looking around (being able to afford decent housing was a big plus). Don't decide ahead of time. Apply broadly, and consider your options very carefully.

let/them/eat/cake wrote:check out the "School OCI Data" thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=375

the placement differences ITE between CCN and the remainder of the T14 seem to be significant. if you are operating under the assumption that this ITE is the new paradigm, which I think is a safe assumption, at least for the class you'll be in, i'd say it's not worth the 45K.

I am shocked at placement differentials. Can it really be that 2/3 of CCN kids make it through the OCI while median isn't safe at MPBV? General sentiment/data seems to suggest such a conclusion but I cannot quite believe it just yet.

If it is true, however, it very much justifies spending extra money for CCN.

dresden doll wrote:

let/them/eat/cake wrote:check out the "School OCI Data" thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=375

the placement differences ITE between CCN and the remainder of the T14 seem to be significant. if you are operating under the assumption that this ITE is the new paradigm, which I think is a safe assumption, at least for the class you'll be in, i'd say it's not worth the 45K.

I am shocked at placement differentials. Can it really be that 2/3 of CCN kids make it through the OCI while median isn't safe at MPBV? General sentiment/data seems to suggest such a conclusion but I cannot quite believe it just yet.

If it is true, however, it very much justifies spending extra money for CCN.

The extra money is justified for CC, and it's justified for NYU if you want NYC.

dresden doll wrote:

let/them/eat/cake wrote:check out the "School OCI Data" thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=375

the placement differences ITE between CCN and the remainder of the T14 seem to be significant. if you are operating under the assumption that this ITE is the new paradigm, which I think is a safe assumption, at least for the class you'll be in, i'd say it's not worth the 45K.

I am shocked at placement differentials. Can it really be that 2/3 of CCN kids make it through the OCI while median isn't safe at MPBV? General sentiment/data seems to suggest such a conclusion but I cannot quite believe it just yet.

If it is true, however, it very much justifies spending extra money for CCN.

Depends entirely on if hiring stays at the same level. If it goes up, we'll probably be back to the days where CCN had 90-100% getting 2L SAs if they wanted them and MVPB being more like 70-80%.

SuichiKurama wrote:

dresden doll wrote:

let/them/eat/cake wrote:check out the "School OCI Data" thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=375

the placement differences ITE between CCN and the remainder of the T14 seem to be significant. if you are operating under the assumption that this ITE is the new paradigm, which I think is a safe assumption, at least for the class you'll be in, i'd say it's not worth the 45K.

I am shocked at placement differentials. Can it really be that 2/3 of CCN kids make it through the OCI while median isn't safe at MPBV? General sentiment/data seems to suggest such a conclusion but I cannot quite believe it just yet.

If it is true, however, it very much justifies spending extra money for CCN.

The extra money is justified for CC, and it's justified for NYU if you want NYC.

I turned down substantial money (more than what OP is looking at) at Michigan for Chicago. I've gotten to be glad I did over the course of the past few weeks. Twenty percent or so worth of differential is substantial IMO.

disco_barred wrote:

dresden doll wrote:

let/them/eat/cake wrote:check out the "School OCI Data" thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=375

the placement differences ITE between CCN and the remainder of the T14 seem to be significant. if you are operating under the assumption that this ITE is the new paradigm, which I think is a safe assumption, at least for the class you'll be in, i'd say it's not worth the 45K.

I am shocked at placement differentials. Can it really be that 2/3 of CCN kids make it through the OCI while median isn't safe at MPBV? General sentiment/data seems to suggest such a conclusion but I cannot quite believe it just yet.

If it is true, however, it very much justifies spending extra money for CCN.

Depends entirely on if hiring stays at the same level. If it goes up, we'll probably be back to the days where CCN had 90-100% getting 2L SAs if they wanted them and MVPB being more like 70-80%.

$45k is not enough money for me to risk that hiring will go back up.

rayiner wrote:

disco_barred wrote:

dresden doll wrote:

let/them/eat/cake wrote:check out the "School OCI Data" thread: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=375

the placement differences ITE between CCN and the remainder of the T14 seem to be significant. if you are operating under the assumption that this ITE is the new paradigm, which I think is a safe assumption, at least for the class you'll be in, i'd say it's not worth the 45K.

I am shocked at placement differentials. Can it really be that 2/3 of CCN kids make it through the OCI while median isn't safe at MPBV? General sentiment/data seems to suggest such a conclusion but I cannot quite believe it just yet.

If it is true, however, it very much justifies spending extra money for CCN.

Depends entirely on if hiring stays at the same level. If it goes up, we'll probably be back to the days where CCN had 90-100% getting 2L SAs if they wanted them and MVPB being more like 70-80%.

$45k is not enough money for me to risk that hiring will go back up.

I'd agree. Also depends on career goals though.

Every now and then I realize there are humans who actually don't want a big firm job in NYC and wheelbarrows full of money, and it always throws me for a loop.