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Hey guys!
I really need your advice on which school to choose.

Need more details. How much money did Case give you? How much $ did IU-Indy give you? What are the stipulations of both?

Where do you want to practice?

deadpanic wrote:Need more details. How much money did Case give you? How much $ did IU-Indy give you? What are the stipulations of both?

Where do you want to practice?

My thoughts exactly. Does Indy have a gpa requirement for the scholly?

Where do you want to practice?

This.

Sorry guys. Both have a 3.1 stipulation. Case is 20k ft and IU is 22k but it's for the pt program which I don't mind doing cuz then I can work. I don't have a preference in where I end up working.

Edit: scholarships are per year.

Are you out of state of IU?

StrictlyLiable wrote:Are you out of state of IU?

yea I am.

So tuition would only be 17k a year for IU? That's not bad if they give you all of that scholly for part time. If you don't have ties to either I would pick Case since you're getting more credit hours for the same price.

Also another thing to consider is what the curve looks like at each school. One school may be significantly more difficult to get a 3.1 than the other.

Ceteris Paribus, I would go to Case. Though, when LBJ leaves Cleveland for Miami tonight, the city may decide to engage in some sort of mass suicide ala Heaven's Gate. So you know... things to consider here.

Yeah I tried to find out what percentile rank a 3.1 at Case was but they are really wishy-washy about giving it out for some reason. You can find the ranks on LSAC but I'm almost positive that it counts 1L-3L combined.

StrictlyLiable wrote:Yeah I tried to find out what percentile rank a 3.1 at Case was but they are really wishy-washy about giving it out for some reason. You can find the ranks on LSAC but I'm almost positive that it counts 1L-3L combined.

Eh, I think you're in a position with some bargaining power, amigo. If they're unable or unwilling to give you the info you need to make the major life decision, you can tell them professionally and politely that you can't feel comfortable attending. They gave you some serious money, so I assume they see you as an assett in attending their law school. If they're still unable/unwilling to give you the info, I would go with IU-I.

Just a warning, I go to IU-Indy and they have NO firms from outside Indiana coming. I don't mind Indy at all, but in case you have an opinion on the matter... I'm not sure if Case is any different, though.

I've lived in Indy for a while and from everyone I have talked to in town, I believe that IU-Indy owns the city of Indianapolis. I don't know much about Case, but I doubt it has the same sort of local options that Indy does. Outside of the city? Not so much.

I vote for Indy, but it's contingent on the curves: If Case has a better curve for you to keep your scholarship, take advantage of it!

Good luck.

Thanks so much guys, I really appreciate the advice.
Which city would be cheaper to live in Cleveland or Indianspolis?

I can't speak to Cleveland, but Indianapolis is exceedingly cheap for a city of its size.

Cleveland's actually cheaper, but both are considerably cheaper than the national mean. I have a friend who bought a 2k sq ft house 5 miles from downtown cleveland, in a nice neighborhood for like $80k. It's ridiculous. The housing market got smoked by the most recent downturn.

http://www.bestplaces.net/col/?salary=5 ... 2=53916000

Case pretty much dominates the Cleveland market. It's a school with a very solid reputation. I guess you just have to make the call on where you would like to end up practicing.

Good luck.

Thanks alot!! You guys are awesome!

StrictlyLiable wrote:Yeah I tried to find out what percentile rank a 3.1 at Case was but they are really wishy-washy about giving it out for some reason. You can find the ranks on LSAC but I'm almost positive that it counts 1L-3L combined.

Approx top 45% will have above a 3.1.

angioletto wrote:

StrictlyLiable wrote:Yeah I tried to find out what percentile rank a 3.1 at Case was but they are really wishy-washy about giving it out for some reason. You can find the ranks on LSAC but I'm almost positive that it counts 1L-3L combined.

Approx top 45% will have above a 3.1.

Just curious, where'd you get that? All I could find was NALP, which says the 50% is at 3.217.

creamedcats wrote:

angioletto wrote:

StrictlyLiable wrote:Yeah I tried to find out what percentile rank a 3.1 at Case was but they are really wishy-washy about giving it out for some reason. You can find the ranks on LSAC but I'm almost positive that it counts 1L-3L combined.

Approx top 45% will have above a 3.1.

Just curious, where'd you get that? All I could find was NALP, which says the 50% is at 3.217.

I asked someone at the school and she pulled it up from last year's 1L info.

This is the first year they have had GPA reqs on the scholarships so I don't think they are used to people asking them this type of question.

angioletto wrote:

creamedcats wrote:

angioletto wrote:

StrictlyLiable wrote:Yeah I tried to find out what percentile rank a 3.1 at Case was but they are really wishy-washy about giving it out for some reason. You can find the ranks on LSAC but I'm almost positive that it counts 1L-3L combined.

Approx top 45% will have above a 3.1.

Just curious, where'd you get that? All I could find was NALP, which says the 50% is at 3.217.

I asked someone at the school and she pulled it up from last year's 1L info.

This is the first year they have had GPA reqs on the scholarships so I don't think they are used to people asking them this type of question.

Interesting, thanks.

OP: You're getting 50% at Case for FT and...what X% at IU-Indy for PT? I don't know, why not Case? Maybe I don't see the appeal of the part-time program. I mean, what are you going to work as? If you had connections in Indianapolis and a nice job lined up, that would be one thing. Without that, I see no reason to take a lower-ranked PT program over a pretty decent deal at a higher-ranked program.

angioletto wrote:

StrictlyLiable wrote:Yeah I tried to find out what percentile rank a 3.1 at Case was but they are really wishy-washy about giving it out for some reason. You can find the ranks on LSAC but I'm almost positive that it counts 1L-3L combined.

Approx top 45% will have above a 3.1.

The top 45% is a good approximation. Just did my 1L year there. It's a B curve for the 1L year in all classes except CORE, which is graded on a 3.2 curve. Top 25% were people who broke a 3.4, which is also Dean's List (in case you were wondering). The curve changes to a 3.2 for 2L and 3L year.

As for the career prospects thing, OCI at Case is pretty weak this year (as every school is), but we still have programs in NYC, DC, LA, CHI, and BOS in addition to whatever local connections exist. And Case obviously has a very strong reputation in the Cleveland market itself.

Hope that helps.

Hey guys!

So would the extra debt at Case be worth it if i want to do public interest law?


Edit: Just received a full ride to Cleveland Marshall.

lsathelp wrote:Hey guys!

So would the extra debt at Case be worth it if i want to do public interest law?


Edit: Just received a full ride to Cleveland Marshall.

Congrats on the full ride. It depends on a bunch of things - how much more you value the Case experience, how debt-averse you are, what the comparative employment options are for each.

Case sends a lot of people to PI. Nothing against Marshall, but there are people who perform well, graduate, and can't get work even in Cleveland. Outside Cleveland, you're dead unless you hustle something up yourself, which isn't going to be made easier by Marshall's standing. Case at least gives you a chance in some other markets.

There is something mentally freeing about the 'full ride' even if you'll still be paying living expenses and cost of opportunity...the total cost difference will be like 65k over three years for tuition. That's not small, I turned down a higher ranked school with about that much cost difference on the table. But in your case, I think the 'gap' between Case and Marshall is pretty considerable, UNLESS you are determined/totally happy to work in Cleveland/Northeastern Ohio. Then it becomes smaller. I'm basing this on: placement numbers from NALP and NLJ and what I know of a few recent grads from both schools.

Neither school is a lock for a good job currently. There was a poster awhile ago who argued that Case is never worth the money compared to Marshall, you could search for his posts for another POV.

Is the Marshall scholarship conditional?