All I'll say is that I know a few grads from each (this past year & year before) and the FSU grads are doing better. Aain, very small sample... just throwing that out there...Kchuck wrote:This is so wrong.paq04 wrote:FSU and UF are basically the same. The grades that one earns at either one of these schools is FAR more important to their future job prospects than which of the two institutions you graduate from. Once the cost of tuition is factored in there is a huge drop off between these two and the other FL schools.
Several professors at FSU seem to think that FSU will jump UF in the USWN rankings in the next year or two. It seems like FSU offers better 1L summer opportunities than UF, because there are simply so many law firms and government jobs around Tallahassee (and in an incredibly close proximity to the law school). Additionally, FSU's faculty is ranked 23rd in the nation in scholarly impact.
UF dominates FSU: even amongst the people working in the legislature, departments, etc.
FSU's only advantage is location.
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I'd be pissed if UF moved it. Gville is super small and for people who like big cities it's a bit of an adjustment (believe me I know) but the old historical feel of the campus couldnt really be replicated in Otown. Also, the good thing about Gville is its CHEAP as DIRT. Your loan money goes far in the 'ville.Barbie wrote:As someone who lived in Orlando and who just left Jacksonville today with a bf from there, hell no. Jacksonville is just awful (We went to a "nice" bar, which seemed okay, until a guy on the dance floor had 2 loaded guns fall out of his pockets) and Orlando is just not a place you want to live for LS, atleast IMO. I would rather live in Gville > Gulfport > Tally >>>>> Miami. But I hear FIU is doing well in Miami, if that's your MODrackedaryMaster wrote:As somebody who hopes to get into a FL law school, I wish UF would do what Stetson did and move it's law school to a more desirable area. How about buying some property in Orlando or Jacksonville? I'm sure Barry or FCSL woudn't mind.
Being a native South Floridian, Gainesville and Tallahasse are too small for my liking. Miami and Stetson have the better locations, but at higher cost and somewhat lesser job prospects.
It would be nice if FIU rose to fulfill the needs of a reputable, affordable law school in South FL, but given the current market saturation, I doubt they will get out of the 4th tier anytime soon.
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Gville is the last LS location in FL that should be complained about.trialjunky wrote:I'd be pissed if UF moved it. Gville is super small and for people who like big cities it's a bit of an adjustment (believe me I know) but the old historical feel of the campus couldnt really be replicated in Otown. Also, the good thing about Gville is its CHEAP as DIRT. Your loan money goes far in the 'ville.Barbie wrote:As someone who lived in Orlando and who just left Jacksonville today with a bf from there, hell no. Jacksonville is just awful (We went to a "nice" bar, which seemed okay, until a guy on the dance floor had 2 loaded guns fall out of his pockets) and Orlando is just not a place you want to live for LS, atleast IMO. I would rather live in Gville > Gulfport > Tally >>>>> Miami. But I hear FIU is doing well in Miami, if that's your MODrackedaryMaster wrote:As somebody who hopes to get into a FL law school, I wish UF would do what Stetson did and move it's law school to a more desirable area. How about buying some property in Orlando or Jacksonville? I'm sure Barry or FCSL woudn't mind.
Being a native South Floridian, Gainesville and Tallahasse are too small for my liking. Miami and Stetson have the better locations, but at higher cost and somewhat lesser job prospects.
It would be nice if FIU rose to fulfill the needs of a reputable, affordable law school in South FL, but given the current market saturation, I doubt they will get out of the 4th tier anytime soon.
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Barbie wrote:Gville is the last LS location in FL that should be complained about.trialjunky wrote:I'd be pissed if UF moved it. Gville is super small and for people who like big cities it's a bit of an adjustment (believe me I know) but the old historical feel of the campus couldnt really be replicated in Otown. Also, the good thing about Gville is its CHEAP as DIRT. Your loan money goes far in the 'ville.Barbie wrote:As someone who lived in Orlando and who just left Jacksonville today with a bf from there, hell no. Jacksonville is just awful (We went to a "nice" bar, which seemed okay, until a guy on the dance floor had 2 loaded guns fall out of his pockets) and Orlando is just not a place you want to live for LS, atleast IMO. I would rather live in Gville > Gulfport > Tally >>>>> Miami. But I hear FIU is doing well in Miami, if that's your MODrackedaryMaster wrote:As somebody who hopes to get into a FL law school, I wish UF would do what Stetson did and move it's law school to a more desirable area. How about buying some property in Orlando or Jacksonville? I'm sure Barry or FCSL woudn't mind.
Being a native South Floridian, Gainesville and Tallahasse are too small for my liking. Miami and Stetson have the better locations, but at higher cost and somewhat lesser job prospects.
It would be nice if FIU rose to fulfill the needs of a reputable, affordable law school in South FL, but given the current market saturation, I doubt they will get out of the 4th tier anytime soon.
Agreed, Oh I HATED Tally!!! It's so dirty
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I called and asked 3 different times. They use the highest of the two when making admissions decisions.lawschoolstudent85 wrote:They may consider your degree GPA but the ADCOM by no means use it as a substitute for your cumulative GPA. I can say this with a pretty high degree of confidence.Barbie wrote:I feel you.. I realllly liked FSU, and I luck out completely because they take your degree GPA if it's higher than your cumulative... which brings me from a 3.1/3.3 to a 3.8. I just hate Florida... I want some dang snow.coque9 wrote:i didn't want to go to uf, people can call me crazy all they want. I'm sure i would have gotten in though. it's all about giving my self the best chance to succeed and fsu does that for me. plus, uf... there are just so many bad vibes coming from there, haha. it's hard for people to understand something so abstract but uf just didn't feel right.
i didn't apply to uf but did get waitlisted at Georgia. the question then became, -> do i want to be top 15% at FSU or top 50% at Georgia?
stipulation: degree granting (if higher) must have a decent amt. of credits. 50+ I would say.
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Yeah, sure, I'm going to trust a student rather than their adcomms.... riiiight.lawschoolstudent85 wrote:
They may take it into consideration but at the end of day the number they care about, understandably so, is the one they are required to report to USNWR. Trust me on this one.
call them yourself.
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I just called AGAIN to verify. He (Daniel- admissions advisor) said they look at the HIGHEST GPA reported by LSAC. (They provide a LSAC calculated version of your Degree and Cumulative).
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Maybe they changed it. Because I just called for the third time, and he knows my GPAs (have a .6+ difference) and he said they likely wouldn't even look at my cumulative GPA.lawschoolstudent85 wrote:Barbie wrote:Yeah, sure, I'm going to trust a student rather than their adcomms.... riiiight.lawschoolstudent85 wrote:
They may take it into consideration but at the end of day the number they care about, understandably so, is the one they are required to report to USNWR. Trust me on this one.
call them yourself.
I did -- when I was applying. We reviewed my application on the phone and spoke explicitly concerning my degree GPA and my cumulative GPA. These aren't wild assumptions. This info is comes from first hand experience. I'm not trying to rain on your parade, just help you out.
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I don't think it matters too much, I've heard FSU is very LSAT heavy anyways. Thanks.lawschoolstudent85 wrote:Hopefully, for your sake, that's the case. Good luck in your application cycle.Barbie wrote:Maybe they changed it. Because I just called for the third time, and he knows my GPAs (have a .6+ difference) and he said they likely wouldn't even look at my cumulative GPA.lawschoolstudent85 wrote:Barbie wrote: Yeah, sure, I'm going to trust a student rather than their adcomms.... riiiight.
call them yourself.
I did -- when I was applying. We reviewed my application on the phone and spoke explicitly concerning my degree GPA and my cumulative GPA. These aren't wild assumptions. This info is comes from first hand experience. I'm not trying to rain on your parade, just help you out.
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Wow! You are so wrong. UF is not any better than FSU. Everyone at UF thinks they are so much better because their athletics makes for more applicants. UF and FSU are the same. UF is in a terrible location, which is a BIG problem when you are trying to find jobs.Kchuck wrote:This is so wrong.paq04 wrote:FSU and UF are basically the same. The grades that one earns at either one of these schools is FAR more important to their future job prospects than which of the two institutions you graduate from. Once the cost of tuition is factored in there is a huge drop off between these two and the other FL schools.
Several professors at FSU seem to think that FSU will jump UF in the USWN rankings in the next year or two. It seems like FSU offers better 1L summer opportunities than UF, because there are simply so many law firms and government jobs around Tallahassee (and in an incredibly close proximity to the law school). Additionally, FSU's faculty is ranked 23rd in the nation in scholarly impact.
UF dominates FSU: even amongst the people working in the legislature, departments, etc.
FSU's only advantage is location.
FSU has a much more welcoming and friendly environment. It is not as cutthroat of a place as UF, which makes for a more enjoyable experience.
It is complete ignorance when people say UF dominates FSU. They aren't ranked that much higher than FSU and they shouldn't even be ranked higher.
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Your points are definitely NOT dripping with bias.nolegirl22 wrote:Wow! You are so wrong. UF is not any better than FSU. Everyone at UF thinks they are so much better because their athletics makes for more applicants. UF and FSU are the same. UF is in a terrible location, which is a BIG problem when you are trying to find jobs.Kchuck wrote:This is so wrong.paq04 wrote:FSU and UF are basically the same. The grades that one earns at either one of these schools is FAR more important to their future job prospects than which of the two institutions you graduate from. Once the cost of tuition is factored in there is a huge drop off between these two and the other FL schools.
Several professors at FSU seem to think that FSU will jump UF in the USWN rankings in the next year or two. It seems like FSU offers better 1L summer opportunities than UF, because there are simply so many law firms and government jobs around Tallahassee (and in an incredibly close proximity to the law school). Additionally, FSU's faculty is ranked 23rd in the nation in scholarly impact.
UF dominates FSU: even amongst the people working in the legislature, departments, etc.
FSU's only advantage is location.
FSU has a much more welcoming and friendly environment. It is not as cutthroat of a place as UF, which makes for a more enjoyable experience.
It is complete ignorance when people say UF dominates FSU. They aren't ranked that much higher than FSU and they shouldn't even be ranked higher.
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u mad?nolegirl22 wrote:Wow! You are so wrong. UF is not any better than FSU. Everyone at UF thinks they are so much better because their athletics makes for more applicants. UF and FSU are the same. UF is in a terrible location, which is a BIG problem when you are trying to find jobs.Kchuck wrote:This is so wrong.paq04 wrote:FSU and UF are basically the same. The grades that one earns at either one of these schools is FAR more important to their future job prospects than which of the two institutions you graduate from. Once the cost of tuition is factored in there is a huge drop off between these two and the other FL schools.
Several professors at FSU seem to think that FSU will jump UF in the USWN rankings in the next year or two. It seems like FSU offers better 1L summer opportunities than UF, because there are simply so many law firms and government jobs around Tallahassee (and in an incredibly close proximity to the law school). Additionally, FSU's faculty is ranked 23rd in the nation in scholarly impact.
UF dominates FSU: even amongst the people working in the legislature, departments, etc.
FSU's only advantage is location.
FSU has a much more welcoming and friendly environment. It is not as cutthroat of a place as UF, which makes for a more enjoyable experience.
It is complete ignorance when people say UF dominates FSU. They aren't ranked that much higher than FSU and they shouldn't even be ranked higher.
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That's not why people say UF is better.nolegirl22 wrote: Wow! You are so wrong. UF is not any better than FSU. Everyone at UF thinks they are so much better because their athletics makes for more applicants. UF and FSU are the same. UF is in a terrible location, which is a BIG problem when you are trying to find jobs.
FSU has a much more welcoming and friendly environment. It is not as cutthroat of a place as UF, which makes for a more enjoyable experience.
It is complete ignorance when people say UF dominates FSU. They aren't ranked that much higher than FSU and they shouldn't even be ranked higher.
UF doesn't dominate per se, but they are not the same.
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rad law wrote:That's not why people say UF is better.nolegirl22 wrote: Wow! You are so wrong. UF is not any better than FSU. Everyone at UF thinks they are so much better because their athletics makes for more applicants. UF and FSU are the same. UF is in a terrible location, which is a BIG problem when you are trying to find jobs.
FSU has a much more welcoming and friendly environment. It is not as cutthroat of a place as UF, which makes for a more enjoyable experience.
It is complete ignorance when people say UF dominates FSU. They aren't ranked that much higher than FSU and they shouldn't even be ranked higher.
UF doesn't dominate per se, but they are not the same.
Wow rad, I was expecting a praise-UF>FSU opinion from you. I am surprised!
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Haha well I will say it straight out then. UF > FSU.Barbie wrote:rad law wrote:That's not why people say UF is better.nolegirl22 wrote: Wow! You are so wrong. UF is not any better than FSU. Everyone at UF thinks they are so much better because their athletics makes for more applicants. UF and FSU are the same. UF is in a terrible location, which is a BIG problem when you are trying to find jobs.
FSU has a much more welcoming and friendly environment. It is not as cutthroat of a place as UF, which makes for a more enjoyable experience.
It is complete ignorance when people say UF dominates FSU. They aren't ranked that much higher than FSU and they shouldn't even be ranked higher.
UF doesn't dominate per se, but they are not the same.
Wow rad, I was expecting a praise-UF>FSU opinion from you. I am surprised!
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I feel like the the prestige of UF in general precedes it. When I think of UF, I think of a good school holistically. When I think of FSU, I think of a crappy UG and a party school. I go to a crappy UG, so no hate at all, and there are absolutely things that are drawing me to FSU over UF (what nole girl mentioned mostly), but I'm just pointing out why it is (or hopefully will be) such a dilemma, at least for me.
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I'm curious I am a Miami undergrad and have a 3.7 and haven't taken the LSAT yet what do I got to score to get into UMiami Law, Nova, FIU. I'm not thinking about UF or FSU it's not my cup of tea. Also would it be worth going out of state?
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As to what LSAT you need, check out Law School Numbers. If you want to practice in FL you will be much better served by UF or FSU in most cases. Miami is expensive and doesn't reach far out of Miami/Ft. Lauderdale. It might be worth going out of state if you can get into a T25-ish school, though UF and FSU are really cheap so that's a factor.Strictly Bum wrote:I'm curious I am a Miami undergrad and have a 3.7 and haven't taken the LSAT yet what do I got to score to get into UMiami Law, Nova, FIU. I'm not thinking about UF or FSU it's not my cup of tea. Also would it be worth going out of state?
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I'm not really worried about the money and connections because I got them. I'm just curious because if I get the higher GPA does the number on the LSAT score I need to get lower? I don't like the Tally area nor Gainesville. Plus Miami is rising and FSU and UF are staying the same.rad law wrote:As to what LSAT you need, check out Law School Numbers. If you want to practice in FL you will be much better served by UF or FSU in most cases. Miami is expensive and doesn't reach far out of Miami/Ft. Lauderdale. It might be worth going out of state if you can get into a T25-ish school, though UF and FSU are really cheap so that's a factor.Strictly Bum wrote:I'm curious I am a Miami undergrad and have a 3.7 and haven't taken the LSAT yet what do I got to score to get into UMiami Law, Nova, FIU. I'm not thinking about UF or FSU it's not my cup of tea. Also would it be worth going out of state?
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I'm not even going to get into the rankings but if you're not an URM, then I would say 157.Strictly Bum wrote:I'm not really worried about the money and connections because I got them. I'm just curious because if I get the higher GPA does the number on the LSAT score I need to get lower? I don't like the Tally area nor Gainesville. Plus Miami is rising and FSU and UF are staying the same.rad law wrote:As to what LSAT you need, check out Law School Numbers. If you want to practice in FL you will be much better served by UF or FSU in most cases. Miami is expensive and doesn't reach far out of Miami/Ft. Lauderdale. It might be worth going out of state if you can get into a T25-ish school, though UF and FSU are really cheap so that's a factor.Strictly Bum wrote:I'm curious I am a Miami undergrad and have a 3.7 and haven't taken the LSAT yet what do I got to score to get into UMiami Law, Nova, FIU. I'm not thinking about UF or FSU it's not my cup of tea. Also would it be worth going out of state?
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Lol, what's URM? Yes, UF and FSU are higher however I fit best in Miami. I'm from around the city.Barbie wrote:I'm not even going to get into the rankings but if you're not an URM, then I would say 157.Strictly Bum wrote:I'm not really worried about the money and connections because I got them. I'm just curious because if I get the higher GPA does the number on the LSAT score I need to get lower? I don't like the Tally area nor Gainesville. Plus Miami is rising and FSU and UF are staying the same.rad law wrote:As to what LSAT you need, check out Law School Numbers. If you want to practice in FL you will be much better served by UF or FSU in most cases. Miami is expensive and doesn't reach far out of Miami/Ft. Lauderdale. It might be worth going out of state if you can get into a T25-ish school, though UF and FSU are really cheap so that's a factor.Strictly Bum wrote:I'm curious I am a Miami undergrad and have a 3.7 and haven't taken the LSAT yet what do I got to score to get into UMiami Law, Nova, FIU. I'm not thinking about UF or FSU it's not my cup of tea. Also would it be worth going out of state?
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