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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:35 am
by emorystud2010
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Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:20 am
by MURPH
The big advantage that you have of reapplying is getting your application done and submitted on the very first day that they accept applications. You can hope to get them to take a nice long look at you when there are not a pile of apps on their desk. After a few weeks of reading PS, LORs and other BS the adcoms will basically let the numbers decide.
The other possiblity is you could retake and get a few more LSAT points. Can you study hard and rock the test in Oct? If so it might be worth it to wait.
Finally you can apply ED somewhere if you don't need the scholarship money.
Before you do this I would read
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... g#p3138598
Mattias had a nice long post about networking somewhere and I can't find it. Maybe someone else can link up. Your can be successful even at a school that is not in the T14 (blasphemy on TLS)
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:46 am
by thexfactor
ride the waitlist. if not then reapply and retake the lsat.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:49 am
by KMaine
If you can do any better on the LSAT, retake and reapply. I really don't like that stipulation on the Iowa scholarship. You should also know if it is serious with your g.f. that she will probably be working in New England.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:52 am
by Grizz
I'd retake and reapply.
1) Top 1/3 is a pretty strict requirement for your scholarship. If you loose it, Iowa's not worth the debt.
2) None of your WL schools are worth sticker, which you'd probably pay.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:04 am
by najumobi
emorystud2010 wrote:Hey everyone. Here's what u need to know
-My numbers are 162 and 3.6 from top 20 undergrad.
- I just got in off the waitlist at Iowa with an 18,000 scholarship with a top 1/3 of the class requirement.
-I'm on waitlists at Emory, Wash U, BC (girlfriend going there), IUB, UC-Davis, W&M, W&L, and Illinois.
- I would like to work big law, but would be ok with mid-law or anything where I could eventually work my way up into the national political arena (which requires a job where u make good money. Please don't argue this point. That's not the point of the thread).
-I don't care about location as long as its a decently major city, which could range from New York to KC/ Indianapolis/Atlanta
-I like Iowa as a school, but the job prospects out of there kinda scare me, as well as the possibility of having to remain in Iowa.
With all this in mind, what does everyone think? Should I go to Iowa with money, hope/pray to get off the waitlist at one of the schools at sticker, or reapply early next cycle?
Iowa does about as good of job at placing it's students into biglaw as W&L and W&M, but it's still possible you would end up in iowa after graduation.
ride the waitlists....though i think your chances of getting off are small since your 3.6 is below the median of all the schools you're waitlisted at except davis. it's likely that you'll have to retake the lsat and reapply. however you're gonna have to retake and get a 163 for davis,164 for indiana, or a 165 for william, and even higher for the other schools you're waitlisted at.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:10 am
by Slimpee
You got 18k w/ a 162/3.6?!?
I have a higher LSAT and only slightly lower gpa and I got diddly-squat...
But as for your question...i'd take Iowa and $ given your numbers unless you re-take. Good luck!
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:13 am
by najumobi
Slimpee wrote:You got 18k w/ a 162/3.6?!?
I have a higher LSAT and only slightly lower gpa and I got diddly-squat...
But as for your question...i'd take Iowa and $ given your numbers unless you re-take. Good luck!
op has other options with his current stats.....he should have applied to florida. it's probably a much more attractive place for OP to be.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:16 am
by Grizz
najumobi wrote:Slimpee wrote:You got 18k w/ a 162/3.6?!?
I have a higher LSAT and only slightly lower gpa and I got diddly-squat...
But as for your question...i'd take Iowa and $ given your numbers unless you re-take. Good luck!
op has other options with his current stats.....he should have applied to florida. it's probably a much more attractive place for OP to be.
Just out of curiosity, why UF?
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:22 am
by najumobi
rad law wrote:najumobi wrote:Slimpee wrote:You got 18k w/ a 162/3.6?!?
I have a higher LSAT and only slightly lower gpa and I got diddly-squat...
But as for your question...i'd take Iowa and $ given your numbers unless you re-take. Good luck!
op has other options with his current stats.....he should have applied to florida. it's probably a much more attractive place for OP to be.
Just out of curiosity, why UF?
florida seems to come up more as a preferred destination than iowa does, UF provides access to 4-5 medium-large cities, OP wouldn't have to improve his lsat because his score (162) is already above UF's median (161). of course OP would have a worse shot at biglaw coming out of UF but i think he would prefer to risk not getting biglaw in Florida than risk being stuck in iowa for a while.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:27 am
by Grizz
najumobi wrote:florida seems to come up more as a preferred destination than iowa does, UF provides access to 4-5 medium-large cities, OP wouldn't have to improve his lsat because his score (162) is already above UF's median (161).
Might be worth an app. Anecdotally, I hear they're pretty stingy with money though. And gaining residency is far from assured.
FL legal market is hell though, plus 11 law schools in the state = supersaturated.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:29 am
by najumobi
rad law wrote:najumobi wrote:florida seems to come up more as a preferred destination than iowa does, UF provides access to 4-5 medium-large cities, OP wouldn't have to improve his lsat because his score (162) is already above UF's median (161).
Might be worth an app. Anecdotally, I hear they're pretty stingy with money though. And gaining residency is far from assured.
FL legal market is hell though, plus 11 law schools in the state = supersaturated.
oh gosh....i didn't think about all the law schools they have in florida.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:20 pm
by emorystud2010
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Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:14 pm
by Grizz
emorystud2010 wrote:Would it be absolutely necessary to retake the lsat? I took a class for it, and was averaging in the low 160s, but i also feel like i burnt myself out a little bit. Ive never been the best of test takers (31 on act). Will turn in my apps on Sept 1st really make that much difference if i don't retake? What if i retake and get the same or +/-1 point? Btw, i turned down cardozo, pepperdine, and american (all sticker) so far, so i would have to rule out those 3 and iowa entirely if i were to reapply (which isnt a bad thing per se, but just worth mentioning)
Dozo, Pepperdine, and American aren't worth sticker.
Just applying early isn't gonna make that much of a difference. If you want better options, you need to retake, period. Iowa doesn't really match up with you career goals of getting a big firm job, placing only 20% of its grads in NLJ250 in even the boom years. Medium sized firms aren't something you just settle for, either, considering that they often require (in general) personal connections, networking, ties to the area, and, most importantly, experience, which you won't have.
Or, you could go to Iowa and drop out if you don't make the 1/3 requirement or gain residency. Even with residency I don't know if I'd do it though.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:20 pm
by ggocat
emorystud2010 wrote:Would it be absolutely necessary to retake the lsat? I took a class for it, and was averaging in the low 160s, but i also feel like i burnt myself out a little bit. Ive never been the best of test takers (31 on act). Will turn in my apps on Sept 1st really make that much difference if i don't retake? What if i retake and get the same or +/-1 point? Btw, i turned down cardozo, pepperdine, and american (all sticker) so far, so i would have to rule out those 3 and iowa entirely if i were to reapply (which isnt a bad thing per se, but just worth mentioning)
There is no reason to reapply unless you increase the LSAT.
Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:27 pm
by Thirteen
emorystud2010 wrote:Would it be absolutely necessary to retake the lsat? I took a class for it, and was averaging in the low 160s, but i also feel like i burnt myself out a little bit. Ive never been the best of test takers (31 on act). Will turn in my apps on Sept 1st really make that much difference if i don't retake? What if i retake and get the same or +/-1 point? Btw, i turned down cardozo, pepperdine, and american (all sticker) so far, so i would have to rule out those 3 and iowa entirely if i were to reapply (which isnt a bad thing per se, but just worth mentioning)
You won't have to rule out the schools. I turned down a school last cycle after being admitted only to the part-time program, applied earlier in the cycle this year with the same LSAT score, and was admitted to the full-time program with a scholarship. I marginally improved my PS and DS, and included a "Why School X" essay. The schools won't hold it against you for turning down their offer if you reapply. If you aren't 100% set on attending Iowa, reapply next year.
Also, consider investing in a tutor to help improve your LSAT score by a few points. The investment could pay off in a huge way if you bump up your score 4-5 points. Good luck with your decision!
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:13 pm
by emorystud2010
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Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:54 pm
by Grizz
Your WL schools aren't worth sticker. Iowa it is.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:56 pm
by emorystud2010
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Re: Iowa $ vs re-applying next cycle
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:29 am
by ZachOda
emorystud2010 wrote:Just got into Emory. Don't know the scholarship yet, but parents are really pushin to go there.
Judging by your screenname, you like Emory just as well. Emory has a good history of big scholarships, you might get lucky here...
Out of curiousity though, because Emory and Iowa are both on my list as well (for next cycle), what makes you choose Emory over Iowa?