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UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:19 pm
by Blimpo12
Hey people I need some advice,

Penn at sticker or Fordham 75k

I want to eventually work in New York. In addition, most of my family is based in New York and I really want to stay here but the lure of a top 10 is killing me.

Advice Please!

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:24 pm
by thatsnotmyname
Wait, how much debt would you graduate with from Fordham? If you can keep the debt super low, and you just want to work in NYC but not necessarily NYC big law... Fordham may be a stronger option. Tough to make an assessment w/o knowing how much debt you are taking on and what your career ambitions are, imo.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:30 pm
by Flanker1067
My advice, Penn. This is based on it being better at everything, especially placing into NYC. This does assume some things, like that you are considering/pursuing Biglaw or some other prestigious position.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:31 pm
by Blimpo12
thatsnotmyname wrote:Wait, how much debt would you graduate with from Fordham? If you can keep the debt super low, and you just want to work in NYC but not necessarily NYC big law... Fordham may be a stronger option. Tough to make an assessment w/o knowing how much debt you are taking on and what your career ambitions are, imo.
At Fordham I would be living at home ( at least for 1L) so thats saving money on rent right there. I would graduate with significantly more debt from penn. However, at this point biglaw is my career ambition.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:33 pm
by dood
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Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:34 pm
by paralegal
Penn.....without a doubt.....

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:38 pm
by Blimpo12
Oh man, I am leaning towards Fordham and was looking for some re-assurance that I'm not throwing my life away.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:42 pm
by ogman05
Blimpo12 wrote:Oh man, I am leaning towards Fordham and was looking for some re-assurance that I'm not throwing my life away.
I would attend penn w/o a doubt anything short of no debt out of fordham. This is up to you tho. I''d prob attend Penn regardless. If you can graduate from fordham with little to no debt though and you like it, you wouldn't be throwing your life away. Just seems like Penn would pay off more in the longrun. HTH. No matter what you choose life should work out okay.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:23 pm
by FuManChusco
I was thinking Fordham until you said you had biglaw ambitions. ITE, take Penn.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:28 pm
by frix0803
Penn

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:30 pm
by thatsnotmyname
Blimpo12 wrote:
At Fordham I would be living at home ( at least for 1L) so thats saving money on rent right there. I would graduate with significantly more debt from penn. However, at this point biglaw is my career ambition.
Yea, I assumed that your cost of living would be covered in NYC considering you said you had family there, but I wasn't sure.

But now that you said that NYC big law is your career ambition... Penn.

If you had said that you didn't want big law, I would've gone Fordham. Big law is definitely attainable from Fordham, though you'll just have to place better in your class. But if you really want big law, you have a better chance of getting it out of Penn. It all comes down to how badly you want big law, imo.

But whatever you pick you won't be throwing your life away. Your debt coming out of Fordham will be very manageable, even if you don't get big law. You should be able to find something decent in NYC coming from Fordham..., just not something that will necessarily pay you six figures starting.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:46 pm
by JCougar
Penn for sure. If you get a biglaw job, paying off that debt should only take a few years. It seems like a lot of money, but it will be worth it.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:39 pm
by bk1
Penn.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:06 pm
by Blindmelon
Let me join in the chorus - Penn Penn Penn. Its a fantastic school for NYC.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:49 pm
by IzziesGal
Penn trumps Fordham, no questions asked.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:02 pm
by futurelawyer413
Tough choice, but I'd go w/UPenn - keep in mind that if you wanna practice in NY, you gotta compete not only with Columbia and NYU grads, but also Cornell, and even the top @ Cardozo and Brooklyn grads.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:07 pm
by romothesavior
Penn










(Gigantic Abyss)























Fordham

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:07 pm
by romothesavior
Also, IBOS.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:30 pm
by Dr. Strangelove
Penn is clearly the better choice here but you can do well in NYC from Fordham. Fordham is where my sister's fiancee went to law school and he's working in BigLaw. However, Fordham isn't exactly NYU.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:51 pm
by Tangerine Gleam
Penn, Penn, Penn.

$75k at Fordham is nothing to sneeze at, but it's not like you're getting a full ride -- you'd still graduate with substantial debt.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 2:02 pm
by Always Credited
I don't even need to say it.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:47 pm
by acadec
i'm gonna take a controversial position here and say penn.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:52 pm
by Dtackpat75
I mean you ultimately have to decide based on personal preferences, but for me unless I had a full ride at fordham I wouldn't even think twice about taking Penn. I love NY it is much better than Philly but University City aint so bad and the only thing fordham has against Penn is location.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 3:39 pm
by IzziesGal
Dtackpat75 wrote:I mean you ultimately have to decide based on personal preferences, but for me unless I had a full ride at fordham I wouldn't even think twice about taking Penn. I love NY it is much better than Philly but University City aint so bad and the only thing fordham has against Penn is location.
Ehhh - I prefer Philly to NYC. I've worked in both cities, and NYC can really take a toll on a person when you're spending 50+ hrs a week there for years on end. I much prefer the pace of life and the people in Phila.

Re: UPENN vs. Fordham $$$

Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:52 pm
by CCNP
let fordham know that you got into penn. maybe they will give u a free ride.

Anyway t14>t50 in job placement in biglaw according to many legal blogs.