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MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:28 pm
by bomedtheLSAT101
What law schools in tier 3 do you guys think might make the jump to Tier 1 within the next few years?
I say:
PACE
STETSON
MARQUETTE
What say you guys?
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:34 pm
by DerrickRose
There are no underrated Tier 3's, and which ones will come into and out of the top 100 in the next few years have absolutely nothing to do with the actual merits of those schools.
/thread (man, I'm in a bad mood today. Stupid Con Law)
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:53 pm
by bomedtheLSAT101
lol you know hofstra is 100 now.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:54 pm
by bk1
I hear the capslock key is overrated.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:57 pm
by lawschoollll
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:00 pm
by Teoeo
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:06 pm
by kevin261186
+1,000,000 LOLZ
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:08 pm
by bomedtheLSAT101
seriously tho what do u guys think of those schools?
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:10 pm
by jayn3
bomedtheLSAT101 wrote:seriously tho what do u guys think of those schools?
you're adorable.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:13 pm
by JuTMSY4
bomedtheLSAT101 wrote:What law schools in tier 3 do you guys think might make the jump to Tier 1 within the next few years?
I say:
PACE
STETSON
MARQUETTE
What say you guys?
T1 as in top 50? None
T1 as in top 100? Marquette
Should any of this affect your decision? No
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:15 pm
by bomedtheLSAT101
well thanks for your helpful input, lol.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:37 pm
by edge3900
Not sure if I am just falling for flame here. But I think what they are trying to say is that judging which if these schools is "best" based off how they may move around in the 110-80 ranking range doesn't really tell you anything about the school or your prospects coming out in terms of employability and value for your tuition.
So what if Marquette goes from 105 --> 90? 1) Hiring partners in the field will likely not notice. 2) Just because Marquette jumped and Stetson didn't, you should resist assuming that this indicates any "real" objective reason why one is better than the other.
Once you get out of the top schools (whatever cutoff that is in your mind, but in would say top 15 or so and the flag ship in-state schools) you should choose your school based off the location where you want to work,and most importantly COST. If Stetson is going to be 40k cheaper than Marquette, there is NO way you an justify picking Marquette only because it ranks 20 spots higher on US News.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:10 pm
by TexasDemocrat
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:14 pm
by bomedtheLSAT101
whats a flamer?
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:19 pm
by barkingbug
edge3900 wrote:Not sure if I am just falling for flame here. But I think what they are trying to say is that judging which if these schools is "best" based off how they may move around in the 110-80 ranking range doesn't really tell you anything about the school or your prospects coming out in terms of employability and value for your tuition.
So what if Marquette goes from 105 --> 90? 1) Hiring partners in the field will likely not notice. 2) Just because Marquette jumped and Stetson didn't, you should resist assuming that this indicates any "real" objective reason why one is better than the other.
Once you get out of the top schools (whatever cutoff that is in your mind, but in would say top 15 or so and the flag ship in-state schools) you should choose your school based off the location where you want to work,and most importantly COST. If Stetson is going to be 40k cheaper than Marquette, there is NO way you an justify picking Marquette only because it ranks 20 spots higher on US News.
You are asking for advice in the wrong place. Most here would say that you are throwing your money away. Then, those people will pay sticker for the best school they can get into and emerge jobless.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:25 pm
by traehekat
The fluctuations in rank do not matter one bit. The reputation of these schools, whether good or bad, is pretty much cemented in place among employers. That said, none of these schools will be top 50 schools in the near future.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:28 pm
by doinmybest
None of these school will jump to tier 1 if that’s what your asking. In your last thread you seemed concerned about making fewer than 100K in your future job. Therefore, it doesn't matter anyway because lots of T1 schools are having trouble getting their graduates ANY type jobs regardless of pay.
In this economic climate, I would not attend any of those schools for anything less than a full-scholarship. It’s a simple cost/benefit analysis, the cost of attending one of those schools is very high and the probability of getting a job is frighteningly low. Big debt with no job.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:37 pm
by Grizz
Stetson grads are getting screwed by the lack of jobs in small firms/local govt ITE and FL's hilariously glutted legal market.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:50 pm
by lawschoollll
This has to be a flame. With the caps and everything? Yea.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:54 pm
by Coriolanus
Loyola NO, Ole Miss
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:59 pm
by trialjunky
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:15 pm
by evilgenius
barkingbug wrote:
You are asking for advice in the wrong place. Most here would say that you are throwing your money away. Then, those people will pay sticker for the best school they can get into and emerge jobless.
I'm not a rankings queen, but I hate it when people make generalized assumptions about those that respond to threads like this. The question posed was which of these schools would/could become T1. Most folks on this thread have answered that question honestly. Whether or not they are worth the investment, none of those schools will become T1 in the coming years. Nor will the reputation of any of these schools change.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:16 pm
by sluguy14
I hate to rain on your parade, but I have good insider information (friend of a friend whose uncle works at Walmart and found the unreleased 2012 rankings) and I've heard that all three of those schools are tumbling down to tier 4. I also heard something about the creation of a new tier 5 to accommodate the massive drops of some other schools, like Texas Tech. Also, Miami is completely demolishing their law school to build a new football stadium. Just thought you should know.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:20 pm
by Kilpatrick
I'm going with OP is a flame. If the two threads weren't enough, I think asking "what is a flamer" gives it away.
Re: MOST UNDERRATED TIER 3
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:36 pm
by bomedtheLSAT101
But to stick to the topic I think PACE law is going to be TIER 1 very soon prob 2 years (insider info). I think most tier 3's are going to be turned into (tier TWO's) they are adding tier 5's but they are also adding tier TWO's next year (insider info). I think 100k starting is very doable for a PACE graduate. =)