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Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:44 pm
by Oblomov
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Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:46 pm
by prolyphek
Oblomov wrote:If you're considering schools in the t-14 and have options other than the UMich, take your other option(s). Their career services goes beyond incompetent. They give advice that actually harms students' career searches and refuse to make even minimal effort or accommodation for students. I'd be willing to bet that their employment statistics for the next two years will verify this, if they release honest data. Without exaggeration, I wish that I had taken any of my offers in place of this one. Well, maybe not Georgetown, but any of the others.
I am very strongly considering Michigan. What makes you say those things, can you give specifics?

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:47 pm
by Shlonster
ok boss

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:49 pm
by A'nold
I hope every potential transfer student across the country reads this thread and is dissuaded from applying to Mich.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:50 pm
by pany1985
I hope every Michigan student reads this and drops out

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:51 pm
by Oblomov
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Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:56 pm
by pany1985
I don't need a seat. I just think it would be fun if an entire student body walked off one day and never came back.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:00 pm
by RhubarbPie
Oblomov wrote:If you're considering schools in the t-14 and have options other than the UMich, take your other option(s). Their career services goes beyond incompetent. They give advice that actually harms students' career searches and refuse to make even minimal effort or accommodation for students. I'd be willing to bet that their employment statistics for the next two years will verify this, if they release honest data. Without exaggeration, I wish that I had taken any of my offers in place of this one. Well, maybe not Georgetown, but any of the others.
What rank were you (approximately) in the class?

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:00 pm
by cranberry
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Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:01 pm
by violinst
Oblomov wrote:
pany1985 wrote:I hope every Michigan student drops out

I just did; you can ask them for Oblomov's seat.

Did your class rank play a role in your decision to drop out?

I ask this with all due respect.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:06 pm
by coulduhelpplz
Relevant to my interests. Please continue with your explanation, Oblomov!

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:07 pm
by Always Credited
This is seriously intriguing...I know Oblomov to be a thoughtful and accurate poster, so I'm curious about whats up here.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:09 pm
by Mr. Smith
Always Credited wrote:This is seriously intriguing...I know Oblomov to be a thoughtful and accurate poster, so I'm curious about whats up here.
Ya, makes me wonder if this is a joke or he's being serious.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:09 pm
by OperaSoprano
Oblomov wrote:
pany1985 wrote:I hope every Michigan student drops out

I just did; you can ask them for Oblomov's seat.
Wait, when did you do this?

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:17 pm
by kn6542
Oblomov wrote:If you're considering schools in the t-14 and have options other than the UMich, take your other option(s). Their career services goes beyond incompetent. They give advice that actually harms students' career searches and refuse to make even minimal effort or accommodation for students. I'd be willing to bet that their employment statistics for the next two years will verify this, if they release honest data. Without exaggeration, I wish that I had taken any of my offers in place of this one. Well, maybe not Georgetown, but any of the others.
Why does ANYONE srsly rely so heavily on career services at any school? This just seems rather foolish.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:18 pm
by violinst
kn6542 wrote:
Oblomov wrote:If you're considering schools in the t-14 and have options other than the UMich, take your other option(s). Their career services goes beyond incompetent. They give advice that actually harms students' career searches and refuse to make even minimal effort or accommodation for students. I'd be willing to bet that their employment statistics for the next two years will verify this, if they release honest data. Without exaggeration, I wish that I had taken any of my offers in place of this one. Well, maybe not Georgetown, but any of the others.
Why does ANYONE srsly rely so heavily on career services at any school? This just seems rather foolish.
I understand your point, but please don't tell me that you would describe Cornell's in the way.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:19 pm
by JimHalpert
At least you won't have to look at this eyesore anymore. Oh wait....

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Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:19 pm
by tintin
real story plz?

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:21 pm
by xyzzzzzzzz
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Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:22 pm
by Always Credited
xyzzzzzzzz wrote:
tintin wrote:real story plz?
+1
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Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:24 pm
by Bert
Always Credited wrote:xyzzzzzzzz wrote:
tintin wrote:
real story plz?


+1


++1
xyzzzzzzzz wrote:
tintin wrote:real story plz?
+1
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+1 more

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:30 pm
by Matthies
kn6542 wrote:
Oblomov wrote:If you're considering schools in the t-14 and have options other than the UMich, take your other option(s). Their career services goes beyond incompetent. They give advice that actually harms students' career searches and refuse to make even minimal effort or accommodation for students. I'd be willing to bet that their employment statistics for the next two years will verify this, if they release honest data. Without exaggeration, I wish that I had taken any of my offers in place of this one. Well, maybe not Georgetown, but any of the others.
Why does ANYONE srsly rely so heavily on career services at any school? This just seems rather foolish.
I have to second this, especially in this market, even at T14. If there is one things law students are universally bad at its finding jobs on their own without any guidance. All that being said its sucks to be in O's position, I hope things work out for him. That and schools (and message boards like this unfortunately) do a really bad job of giving students the skills they need to actually find something on their own. Both schools and the boards tend to perpetuate the myth that law students find jobs through the school or OCI, the vast majority don't.

Its a catch 22, the schools don't provide the skills students really need for a job search and students don't know they need to learn them on their own. Things get worse when the school did not need, in the recent past, a robust career services office familiar with how to find students jobs when the old methods stop working. We are in a different market and schools need to catch up quickly with changing times. For the most part they aren't and that is a disservice to their students. It's hard to know what you don't know when the people you look to for advice don't know either.

Good luck O you're a smart guy things will work out.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:33 pm
by los blancos
Bert wrote:
Always Credited wrote:xyzzzzzzzz wrote:
tintin wrote:
real story plz?


+1


++1
xyzzzzzzzz wrote:
tintin wrote:real story plz?
+1
++1
+1 more

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:34 pm
by 09042014
Dropping out now is stupid. Transfer if you must.

Re: Avoid UMich

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:36 pm
by Mr. Matlock
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Good luck Oblomov. You are one smart mother-fucker. (usually that's sunshine I put up someone's ass, but in your case, it holds true)