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UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:59 pm
by PirateCap'n
This is it. After this one, I'm done. I'm in at both. Wake offered a significant scholarship; UNC offered nothing.

Total costs for the two:
Wake Forest: ~$65,000-70,000 (top 2/3 class requirement)
UNC: ~$85,000-90,000 (possibly higher due to COL)

Give or take, UNC will be between $15,000-20,000 more. I plan to work in NC. I know that UNC is highly regard by everyone in the state, but it seems that Wake is gaining on UNC (if it hasn't already caught it). I like Wake better but wouldn't hesitate to choose UNC if the career options were actually that much better. It just doesn't seem that they are. What do you guys think?

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:09 am
by Grizz
IIRC, Wake had better clerkships and NLF250 stats, plus it's cheaper, so go to Wake.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:36 am
by kalvano
They place pretty equally in the state. UNC doesn't seem to offer anything more or less than Wake does.

Take the money and go to Wake.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:39 am
by Nicholasnickynic
Kalvano, are you employed and/or contracted out by Melanie Nutt & Co.?

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:40 am
by Dr. Review
In my experience, the majority of UNC grads, both UG and JD, are pretentious douchebags. Now, I hate to generalize here, and this may not be true of everyone. So I say go to Wake, unless you are a pretentious douche, and then you should go to UNC.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:42 am
by kalvano
Nicholasnickynic wrote:Kalvano, are you employed and/or contracted out by Melanie Nutt & Co.?

Nope. It's not like he asked about the difference between Duke and Wake.

But when you look at all the stats for North Carolina (and I looked at a metric shit-ton before decidig to completely uproot my life and head over there), nothing suggests that UNC is a significantly better school than Wake, and certainly not worth $20K more.

If the costs were equal, I'd say go to UNC, just because they rank higher.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:45 am
by Nicholasnickynic
kalvano wrote:
Nicholasnickynic wrote:Kalvano, are you employed and/or contracted out by Melanie Nutt & Co.?

Nope. It's not like he asked about the difference between Duke and Wake.

But when you look at all the stats for North Carolina (and I looked at a metric shit-ton before decidig to completely uproot my life and head over there), nothing suggests that UNC is a significantly better school than Wake, and certainly not worth $20K more.

If the costs were equal, I'd say go to UNC, just because they rank higher.
I keed, I keed. But good point.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:49 am
by jlnoa0915
Wake all day long, no question.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:59 am
by Luis Gomez
Wake Forest. +1

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:09 am
by icydash
Pirate: just out of curiosity, what were your stats?

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:37 am
by PirateCap'n
icydash wrote:Pirate: just out of curiosity, what were your stats?
Mid-160s, >3.8

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:40 am
by PirateCap'n
Bedsole wrote:In my experience, the majority of UNC grads, both UG and JD, are pretentious douchebags. Now, I hate to generalize here, and this may not be true of everyone. So I say go to Wake, unless you are a pretentious douche, and then you should go to UNC.
Honestly, that seems to be true, and that's one of my hesitations about UNC. It seems that even the faculty/staff fit this mold. I know I fit with the "culture" at Wake better, and I like it better overall. I just didn't know if UNC was worth $20,000 more with its larger alumni base and reputation.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:14 am
by missvik218
PirateCap'n wrote:it seems that Wake is gaining on UNC (if it hasn't already caught it). I like Wake better but wouldn't hesitate to choose UNC if the career options were actually that much better. It just doesn't seem that they are.
TITCR. GO DEACS!!

Edit: Also, unnecessary douchebaggery FTL.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:42 am
by moandersen
haha pirate - you might have to preface your post so that none of us WF supporters (I wont go as far as trolls yet) can post, because you obviously know what we would say. You will probably need more objective, non-biased, opinions.

with all that being said, choose WF. 8)

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:56 am
by PirateCap'n
moandersen wrote:haha pirate - you might have to preface your post so that none of us WF supporters (I wont go as far as trolls yet) can post, because you obviously know what we would say. You will probably need more objective, non-biased, opinions.

with all that being said, choose WF. 8)
Hey man

I'll take any advice I can get. I'm all for WFU folks trying to persuade me (and even UNC folks if there are any on here -- I don't know of many though). Bias is good. It shows that you have reasons for trying to persuade me. I'm fairly set on WFU, but I just want to make sure that I'm not making some horrible mistake (and I don't think I am).

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:02 am
by Nicholasnickynic
moandersen wrote:haha pirate - you might have to preface your post so that none of us WF supporters (I wont go as far as trolls yet) can post, because you obviously know what we would say. You will probably need more objective, non-biased, opinions.

with all that being said, choose WF. 8)
I would say trolls. But in the best possible sense :D

I'm deciding between wake and uga, and every time I enter anything wake related, there's always a storm of posts from people that hang out in wake's main thread.

It shows some dedication I guess =)

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:21 am
by Luis Gomez
Nicholasnickynic wrote:
moandersen wrote:haha pirate - you might have to preface your post so that none of us WF supporters (I wont go as far as trolls yet) can post, because you obviously know what we would say. You will probably need more objective, non-biased, opinions.

with all that being said, choose WF. 8)
I would say trolls. But in the best possible sense :D

I'm deciding between wake and uga, and every time I enter anything wake related, there's always a storm of posts from people that hang out in wake's main thread.

It shows some dedication I guess =)
I won't be attending WF anymore and I still go around posting in favor of Wake. I had to let go a full tuition scholly there and it was very hard. The law school seems very well structured and in some areas it carries a level of prestige way above its ranking.

My employer (in Mexico) said it was a shame I wouldn't attend an elite school like Wake and would go to Illinois instead. He is clearly not well informed, but still as a partner in a transnational law firm his ignorance says a lot in favor of Wake Forest.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:05 pm
by tarheel87
PirateCap'n wrote:
Bedsole wrote:In my experience, the majority of UNC grads, both UG and JD, are pretentious douchebags. Now, I hate to generalize here, and this may not be true of everyone. So I say go to Wake, unless you are a pretentious douche, and then you should go to UNC.
Honestly, that seems to be true, and that's one of my hesitations about UNC. It seems that even the faculty/staff fit this mold. I know I fit with the "culture" at Wake better, and I like it better overall. I just didn't know if UNC was worth $20,000 more with its larger alumni base and reputation.
CHECK YOU! But seriously if you don't like UNC then we can't hang out at Wake. I'll always be a Tar Heel at heart and this university has done more for me then I could have ever imagined. I may be a pretentious douchebag but--oh nevermind.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:21 pm
by PirateCap'n
tarheel87 wrote:
PirateCap'n wrote:
Bedsole wrote:In my experience, the majority of UNC grads, both UG and JD, are pretentious douchebags. Now, I hate to generalize here, and this may not be true of everyone. So I say go to Wake, unless you are a pretentious douche, and then you should go to UNC.
Honestly, that seems to be true, and that's one of my hesitations about UNC. It seems that even the faculty/staff fit this mold. I know I fit with the "culture" at Wake better, and I like it better overall. I just didn't know if UNC was worth $20,000 more with its larger alumni base and reputation.
CHECK YOU! But seriously if you don't like UNC then we can't hang out at Wake. I'll always be a Tar Heel at heart and this university has done more for me then I could have ever imagined. I may be a pretentious douchebag but--oh nevermind.
Haha. Well as Bedsole mentioned, there are always exceptions, so I'm sure we'll get along just fine. It's just pretty easy to stereotype UNC folks that way. I even have a few friends up that way who definitely seem to fit the stereotype. Just don't know that I'd want to go to school with an entire group of them.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:32 pm
by Luis Gomez
Be sure before you decide, there is no transferring between NC Law schools.

Re: UNC v. WFU ($$$)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:35 pm
by PirateCap'n
Luis Gomez wrote:Be sure before you decide, there is no transferring between NC law schools.
Yeah. I don't think that too much of a concern. Whichever I decide on (Wake at the moment), I intend to stick with it until the end.