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Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:36 pm
by dubes
Question for the community:
Having a tough time deciding on this - Berkeley or Northwestern with a scholarship offer of $135,000?
Seems like a no-brainer, I know, but I want some feedback about choosing #10 over #6 in terms of how that might affect job prospects and career placement.
FYI - I LOVE both San Francisco and Chicago (and yes, I know Berkeley is in Berkeley, not SF, but I went there for undergrad so I know my way around the area). Ideally I'd like to work in either SF, Chicago, or New York upon graduating.
Help me choose!!
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:38 pm
by amputatedbrain
rankings don't matter that much, especially when we're talking a difference of 4 spaces within the T10. Unless you have some very specific reason for going to Berkeley (i.e. set on West coast, IP law, or something like that) I think Northwestern is the easy answer. If you have a certain industry you want to go into, it might be worthwhile to see which school places better into it, but I can't imagine the difference will be enough to justify 150k in debt.
Edit: It's probably worth saying that even if you were paying sticker at both, Berkeley would not be a no-brainer . . . they're basically peer schools, slight fluctuations in the rankings aside.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:40 pm
by 09042014
Unless Northwestern raped your children it is TCR.
See you in Chicago.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:41 pm
by ppa840
hard to turn that kind of cash away. I vote northwestern
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:42 pm
by sumus romani
How is this even a real choice? Enjoy NW; it is a great school.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:43 pm
by stratocophic
How is this even a question, unless you 100% want to live in California (and even then...)? USNWR's got to stop trolling for Berkeley, it's getting ridiculous.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:47 pm
by dk8
unless you have a wife and kids that can't leave california, this isn't a choice.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:49 pm
by rayiner
Did you get CCN?
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:50 pm
by stratocophic
rayiner wrote:Did you get CCN?
That might make it a ballgame.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:57 pm
by aad
dk8 wrote:unless you have a wife and kids that can't leave california, this isn't a choice.
Even then, if your children like the food and shelter that $150,000 can buy, you should probably go to NW. This question is so obvious that it is not worth asking even if you had some strong tie to California.
Another point to consider is that Berkeley hasn't always been ranked #6. It is pretty recent. Perhaps they will stay at that rank or maybe they won't. I don't think 4 slots in rankings that can change over time is worth $150,000.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:00 pm
by NayBoer
It will not substantially affect job placement to take the money, as long as you're okay landing in Chicago. By many metrics the biglaw placement is better at NU.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:02 pm
by MJMD
This is what an obsessive focus on rankings leads to.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:08 pm
by jcunni5
Go to nu Im pretty sure that it places better than boalt anyway besides Cali. Even if u got ccn I would still go to nu this really is a no brainer a t10 education for free
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:15 pm
by guyincognito
NU NU NU. But maybe I'm just a little biased.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:16 pm
by thickfreakness
My deposit would have been Same-Day Express FedEx-ed to NW yesterday.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:17 pm
by dk8
jcunni5 wrote:Go to nu Im pretty sure that it places better than boalt anyway besides Cali. Even if u got ccn I would still go to nu this really is a no brainer a t10 education for free
agreed
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:31 pm
by sfdreaming09
Berkeley UG here, but NU hands down
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:34 pm
by BioEBear2010
sfdreaming09 wrote:Berkeley UG here, but NU hands down
+1. Too much $$$ to turn down.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:40 pm
by Shot007
Man, I can't believe you are even asking this question, many comment that Berkeley is overrated, and for placement Northwestern is pretty good. This is before you consider the fact that you have a 135,000 scholarship...Northwestern is TCR, imho.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:42 pm
by Kohinoor
Berkeley. It's 4 ranks higher. That works out to an increased lifetime earning potential of over 3 million dollars.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:46 pm
by amputatedbrain
Kohinoor wrote:Berkeley. It's 4 ranks higher. That works out to an increased lifetime earning potential of over 3 million dollars.
And if NU moves down to 11th when the new rankings come out . . . oh shit OP's life will be screwed
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:47 pm
by goingtolawschool
As a 1L at Berkeley, I think this thread is weird and you should log off and make a seat deposit at NU.
Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:42 pm
by lt0826
For selfish reasons I am going to say pick Berkeley and please ask NU to give that scholarship to me - Deposit will be sent immediately.

Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:19 pm
by dubes
Hahaha, alright this is exactly what I figured I'd hear.
Berkeley was my top choice for so long, when I got in I basically wrote off every other school in existence. So really I'm still trying to get used to the switch!
But thanks everyone, I think I needed a lot of angry people telling me what I already knew

Re: Berkeley vs. Northwestern + $135,000??
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:36 am
by motiontodismiss
I'm surprised you haven't hand-delivered your deposit to NU yesterday.