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USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:37 pm
by musicfor18
Which would you choose? I want to leave big law open as an option, and would generally like as much portability as possible. Should I take the full scholarship or undertake more debt for USC? Please vote and leave your thoughts.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:00 pm
by sfdreaming09
musicfor18 wrote:Which would you choose? I want to leave big law open as an option, and would generally like as much portability as possible. Should I take the full scholarship or undertake more debt for USC? Please vote and leave your thoughts.
ITE biglaw isnt too likely from either, so I would take IU.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:05 am
by quickquestionthanks
sfdreaming09 wrote:musicfor18 wrote:Which would you choose? I want to leave big law open as an option, and would generally like as much portability as possible. Should I take the full scholarship or undertake more debt for USC? Please vote and leave your thoughts.
ITE biglaw isnt too likely from either, so I would take IU.
From USC? I'd say you have a pretty good shot if you're in the top 30% of your class. By the time you graduate, perhaps top 50. In LA, of course.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:15 am
by roadkilllaw
quickquestionthanks wrote:sfdreaming09 wrote:musicfor18 wrote:Which would you choose? I want to leave big law open as an option, and would generally like as much portability as possible. Should I take the full scholarship or undertake more debt for USC? Please vote and leave your thoughts.
ITE biglaw isnt too likely from either, so I would take IU.
From USC? I'd say you have a pretty good shot if you're in
the top 30% of your class. By the time you graduate, perhaps top 50. In LA, of course.
Really? ITE?
I chose USC too, mostly because I don't think IUB deserves its rank and its not as portable as USC. ITE, you'd prbly want to be top 5-10% at USC for a SHOT a biglaw, not top 30%
Edit:
Do either scholarships come with GPA requirements??
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:30 am
by musicfor18
roadkilllaw wrote:quickquestionthanks wrote:sfdreaming09 wrote:musicfor18 wrote:Which would you choose? I want to leave big law open as an option, and would generally like as much portability as possible. Should I take the full scholarship or undertake more debt for USC? Please vote and leave your thoughts.
ITE biglaw isnt too likely from either, so I would take IU.
From USC? I'd say you have a pretty good shot if you're in
the top 30% of your class. By the time you graduate, perhaps top 50. In LA, of course.
Really? ITE?
I chose USC too, mostly because I don't think IUB deserves its rank and its not as portable as USC. ITE, you'd prbly want to be top 5-10% at USC for a SHOT a biglaw, not top 30%
Edit:
Do either scholarships come with GPA requirements??
Nope. Both scholarships are guaranteed for all 3 years.
On the subject of job placement, USC placed 15th on the 2009 NLJ250 charts with 41.6% of grads placed. IUB doesn't even appear in the top 50 of that chart. Of course, this placement happened before the big downturn.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:09 am
by roadkilllaw
I still go for USC.
Honestly, before I started researching law schools, I didn't even know that IUB had a law school. I think that USC gives far more opportunities than IUB so even though i'm debt adverse, i'd still choose USC --> it's going to be the most portable of the two
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:18 pm
by musicfor18
Can anyone else chime in with their thoughts?
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:34 pm
by Puffy
Like, if you have to think about this, then you are probably the type of person who'd do better in Indiana or whatever.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:53 pm
by musicfor18
Ok, interesting, Puffy. Now can anyone with manners chime in?
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm
by jonnodotsg
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Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:58 pm
by thinkbig
jonnodotsg wrote:I'd say that it really depends on where you'd like to practice. As has been mentioned countless times in this forum, take USC if you want LA, and IU if you want the Midwest. However, if none of these two markets appeal to you, then I'd go with IU. The significant reduction in debt would allow you a bit more flexibility in terms of career options upon graduation.
+1. Well said.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:01 pm
by danquayle
thinkbig wrote:jonnodotsg wrote:I'd say that it really depends on where you'd like to practice. As has been mentioned countless times in this forum, take USC if you want LA, and IU if you want the Midwest. However, if none of these two markets appeal to you, then I'd go with IU. The significant reduction in debt would allow you a bit more flexibility in terms of career options upon graduation.
+1. Well said.
Except USC is in a far more dominate position relative to its market than IU. I'm big for keeping debt down, and I'm big on IU, but I'd take USC... easily.
You're looking at a school thats essentially tied for first in its market with said market being one of the largest in the country...
Although, that USC scholarship will be pretty much offset by the cost of living in LA.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:27 am
by musicfor18
Thanks for the constructive responses! Anyone else?
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:37 am
by beef wellington
musicfor18 wrote:Which would you choose? I want to leave big law open as an option, and would generally like as much portability as possible. Should I take the full scholarship or undertake more debt for USC? Please vote and leave your thoughts.
It sounds like you want USC. More portable, plus if you were to get stuck in CA or IN, personally I'd much rather be stuck in CA.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:04 pm
by musicfor18
bump
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:11 pm
by Hopefullawstudent
beef wellington wrote:musicfor18 wrote:Which would you choose? I want to leave big law open as an option, and would generally like as much portability as possible. Should I take the full scholarship or undertake more debt for USC? Please vote and leave your thoughts.
It sounds like you want USC. More portable, plus if you were to get stuck in CA or IN, personally I'd much rather be stuck in CA.
+1,000,000.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:57 pm
by musicfor18
Why is IU ranked so high at 23 if so many people think it should be lower? Or....why do you think it should be ranked lower than it is?
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:12 am
by beef wellington
musicfor18 wrote:Why is IU ranked so high at 23 if so many people think it should be lower? Or....why do you think it should be ranked lower than it is?
I think I remember reading something like they got a huge one time donation that pushed up their expenditure per student number.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:19 am
by musicfor18
beef wellington wrote:musicfor18 wrote:Why is IU ranked so high at 23 if so many people think it should be lower? Or....why do you think it should be ranked lower than it is?
I think I remember reading something like they got a huge one time donation that pushed up their expenditure per student number.
Yes, well it's definitely true they got a huge donation. I think that's how they're able to give out a bunch of full scholarships.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:02 pm
by musicfor18
Anyone else?
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:50 pm
by musicfor18
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Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:56 pm
by RVP11
roadkilllaw wrote:ITE, you'd prbly want to be top 5-10% at USC for a SHOT a biglaw, not top 30%
This is a ridiculous underestimation.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:58 pm
by musicfor18
JSUVA2012 wrote:roadkilllaw wrote:ITE, you'd prbly want to be top 5-10% at USC for a SHOT a biglaw, not top 30%
This is a ridiculous underestimation.
How so? Are you saying that you don't need to be as high as top 5-10%? Or are you saying that you need to be even higher?
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:34 pm
by RVP11
musicfor18 wrote:JSUVA2012 wrote:roadkilllaw wrote:ITE, you'd prbly want to be top 5-10% at USC for a SHOT a biglaw, not top 30%
This is a ridiculous underestimation.
How so? Are you saying that you don't need to be as high as top 5-10%? Or are you saying that you need to be even higher?
To have a SHOT at BigLaw? I'm sure anyone in top quarter at USC still has a SHOT.
In the good economy, probably around half (or more) of USC had a shot at BigLaw. There are about half as many BigLaw SA positions now than there were a few years ago. So top quarter is a decent estimation.
Re: USC$ vs IU$$$
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:41 pm
by musicfor18
Aha, thanks for the clarification. Are you currently in law school or a 0L?