Arizona v Arizona State v Tulane Forum

[Yellowcard]

I am totally unsure how to make a decision of this magnitude. I do not know what I should consider about these schools when making this decision. Is there an obvious choice between these schools? Is one of them likely to move up or down in the rankings over the next few years? I would appreciate any and all advice.

[Stringer Bell]

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

[im_blue]

An important consideration would be where you want to work.

[Charles Barkley]

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

I would put this percentage closer to 90%. Where do you want to work, OP?

[Yellowcard]

I could see myself in the SouthWest, California, the MidWest, or maybe even Florida. I mean that's part of the problem. I don't know really where I want to be. For the sake of this post though, I'll rank where I would like to end up.

1. California/Arizona
2. Florida
3. MidWest

[reebtoor]

ASU

1. The state of Arizona is at the top of your list.
2. Phoenix is way better than Tuscon.
3. Outside of Arizona, UA=ASU.

[im_blue]

ASU

1. The state of Arizona is at the top of your list.
2. Phoenix is way better than Tuscon.
3. Outside of Arizona, UA=ASU.

I'll go with this.

[scionb4]

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

Nope, I've got a different idea:

DELETED

She and her friends are only an hour and a half away from Tulane.

[Charles Barkley]

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

Nope, I've got a different idea:

DELETED

She and her friends are only an hour and a half away from Tulane.

I went to LSU undergrad and I can vouch for the hotness of girls there.

[Aberzombie1892]

I am totally unsure how to make a decision of this magnitude. I do not know what I should consider about these schools when making this decision. Is there an obvious choice between these schools? Is one of them likely to move up or down in the rankings over the next few years? I would appreciate any and all advice.

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

Whoa whoa Tulane undergrad girls are gorgeous, trust me.

I need to know other things you are taking into account when choosing schools. As another poster stated, you have Arizona tied with California at the top of your list. However I will say that outside of Arizona, Tulane would probably be the better choice (but this depends on scholarship offers and whatnot).

[darknightbegins]

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

Nope, I've got a different idea:

DELETED

She and her friends are only an hour and a half away from Tulane.

I went to LSU undergrad and I can vouch for the hotness of girls there.

I am visiting LSU in April and sweet christ...

[darknightbegins]

Of the choices I take ASU. Tulane sticker is through the roof! Also I've heard you have to choose between studying civil law and common law at that school. If you study Civil you will be stuck in Louisiana. If you want the west go with ASU.

[nianlong]

I've heard you have to choose between studying civil law and common law at that school

Not really. Before 2nd semester of 1L, you note your intention for practicing in Civil or Common Law jurisdictions to Academic Services. This will determine which Property and Contracts II class you are registered for in Spring of 1L. After that, you can take whatever you want. Mix it up Civil/ Common. Plenty of students choose to knock out the Common Law courses first year and if they decide to stay in New Orleans take a few upper level Civil Law courses during 3L to prepare for the bar. Some people just take common law courses and then study "cold" for the Louisiana bar.

So it's not like you have to choose a "track" that you're stuck with. Those 2 1L classes are the only ones that are pre-selected for you when you sign up for Common/ Civil one way or the other.

[darknightbegins]

Thanks for clearing that up. Still the price at sticker is insane.

[msbeautifulbasham]

I'd stick to the AZ schools. It seems like many people (myself included) are wrestling over ASU vs. Arizona, and there seems to be no objectively "better" decision. I think it comes down to whichever school feels more comfortable to you, since at the end of the day neither school is leagues better than the other.

[Yellowcard]

I feel like Arizona is ranked 15 spots higher than ASU for a reason. How can they be a toss up, if their is such a large difference between the two. Furthermore, I don't think Phoenix is dominated by ASU. I've read from plenty of ASU v UA threads that UA places just as well, if not better, in the Phoenix area.

[reebtoor]

I feel like Arizona is ranked 15 spots higher than ASU for a reason. How can they be a toss up, if their is such a large difference between the two. Furthermore, I don't think Phoenix is dominated by ASU. I've read from plenty of ASU v UA threads that UA places just as well, if not better, in the Phoenix area.

ASU definitely has the edge in Phoenix. I'm not sure what your definition of "just as well, if not better" is, But here http://www.swlaw.com/attorneys/List.asp ... &sort=Name is a sampling of the attorneys at the top-ranked firm in Phoenix. Note that they have other offices, but the attorneys that work in Phoenix come from all over...except UA. The greatest number come from ASU. There are some attorneys at this and other firms in Phoenix who went to UA, but they are definitely the minority. I tend to think people like us care a lot more about rankings than those who are hiring people.

[AsexualChocolate]

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

Nope, I've got a different idea:

DELETED

She and her friends are only an hour and a half away from Tulane.

I've heard that if you want to practice in Louisiana, go to school in Louisiana; and if you don't, stay the hell out of Louisiana. Apparently they have some French Code (?) that is quite different than the rest of the U.S. I'm sure an intelligent LS grad would have no problem transitioning out or in, but it seems said individual would be at a disadvantage due to the slightly foreign system... Will someone get this girl off me???

[darknightbegins]

The French code is Civil Law, or a version of it. Its what most of the non English speaking world uses as its legal system. If you want to practice in LA then it is highly advisable you choose a school in LA to go too. However, most LA schools will teach Civil Law and Common Law so you aren't really put at a disadvantage except for having to take more classes.

[3ThrowAway99]

I feel like Arizona is ranked 15 spots higher than ASU for a reason. How can they be a toss up, if their is such a large difference between the two. Furthermore, I don't think Phoenix is dominated by ASU. I've read from plenty of ASU v UA threads that UA places just as well, if not better, in the Phoenix area.

ASU definitely has the edge in Phoenix. I'm not sure what your definition of "just as well, if not better" is, But here http://www.swlaw.com/attorneys/List.asp ... &sort=Name is a sampling of the attorneys at the top-ranked firm in Phoenix. Note that they have other offices, but the attorneys that work in Phoenix come from all over...except UA. The greatest number come from ASU. There are some attorneys at this and other firms in Phoenix who went to UA, but they are definitely the minority. I tend to think people like us care a lot more about rankings than those who are hiring people.

.... I lived in Northern AZ and worked with attorneys (2 hours north of Phoenix, about 4 hours north of Tucson). I definitely got the impression that U of A has stronger placement and reputation in AZ than ASU, though there may be some individual firms where that is not the case. Of course ASU is still a decent school, but neither its' reputation nor placement is on par with U of A from what I understand.

[reebtoor]

...something about citing one firm not necessarily representing the market...

Neither does working with some people in northern Arizona.

[PDaddy]

Of the choices I take ASU. Tulane sticker is through the roof! Also I've heard you have to choose between studying civil law and common law at that school. If you study Civil you will be stuck in Louisiana. If you want the west go with ASU.

Wrong. You do not have to "choose between common and civil law". All students can take some civil law courses, but Tulane primarily teaches common law. And, contrary to what many people think, Louisiana is steeped in common law tradition like other states. I love Arizona but it is a regional school. If money is offered at AZ and not Tulane, go to AZ.

AZ St. Can only trump the other two by offering more money.

[gords329]

You can check out some more in-depth stats about the schools here- http://www.schoolaah.com/Arizona.htm. Looks like AZ's career prospects are same or better than ASU's in almost every category (salaries, bar pass rates, % employed at graduation, % in judicial clerkships, etc.) I have never personally vetted the info on this site, but the stuff that can be checked against TLS info (75th-25th LSAT/GPA, etc.) seem to be on point.

[reebtoor]

So, in my experience, when someone starts a thread like this, they are already leaning one way, and inevitably go that way in the end. But fwiw, I thought we established that Phoenix is better than Tuscon, so the question is only who places better in Phoenix. Those stats don't really reflect anything about placement area. If anything, though, they seem to indicate that ASU places better, since salaries in Phoenix are notoriously low.

[dextermorgan]

I would say there is a 70% chance this thread winds up with some pictures of hot girls from ASU.

Nope, I've got a different idea:

DELETED

She and her friends are only an hour and a half away from Tulane.

Someone lacks Photoshop skills. Look at the hat.
DELETED