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UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:52 am
by ram jam
University of Florida dominates the Florida legal market and offers incredibly low tuition for in-state students. However, national mobility is limited and starting salaries are mediocre.
George Mason places well in D.C. and Nova. Higher starting salary, but also a higher cost of living,etc. More opportunities?
If you could attend UF at the in-state tuition of $14,500 + $14,000 COA/Year, or GMU at $35,000 + $21,500 COA/Year, which would you choose and why?
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:54 am
by kittenmittons
ram jam wrote:What would choose? Why?
Career goals, location pref, etc.?
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:14 am
by kickincane21
I'm from Florida as well and accepted at both, so interested in seeing the results. Hopefully GMU and/or Florida still surprises me (us) with some $$$. On their website it says they offer priority $$$ to residents, and since I've gotten money from higher ranked schools they should throw some pity money my way at least.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:16 am
by pollaclc
if you dont mind staying in florida i'd say you're pretty golden if you go to UF
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:21 am
by GatorStudent
kickincane21 wrote:I'm from Florida as well and accepted at both, so interested in seeing the results. Hopefully GMU and/or Florida still surprises me (us) with some $$$. On their website it says they offer priority $$$ to residents, and since I've gotten money from higher ranked schools they should throw some pity money my way at least.
They do tend to give more money to residents, but it's normally still not too much, since tuition is so low.
OP, as others have stated, you must decide where you would like to live and what your career goals are. Keep in mind too that with the state of the legal economy, good jobs for even top-notch students aren't easy to find. It is even more important today to keep costs as low as you can, while going to a school that will help you accomplish your goals.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:29 am
by ram jam
GatorStudent wrote:kickincane21 wrote:I'm from Florida as well and accepted at both, so interested in seeing the results. Hopefully GMU and/or Florida still surprises me (us) with some $$$. On their website it says they offer priority $$$ to residents, and since I've gotten money from higher ranked schools they should throw some pity money my way at least.
They do tend to give more money to residents, but it's normally still not too much, since tuition is so low.
OP, as others have stated, you must decide where you would like to live and what your career goals are. Keep in mind too that with the state of the legal economy, good jobs for even top-notch students aren't easy to find. It is even more important today to keep costs as low as you can, while going to a school that will help you accomplish your goals.
This is very true. I honestly would prefer to got to GMU for location and career opportunities, but the basement low cost of a good legal degree from Florida is hard to turn down. I am interested in seeing how other people would decide between the two schools.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:18 pm
by ram jam
see if we can get some more input on the poll...
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:24 pm
by ndirish2010
UF. If you plan to stay in state, UF>>GMU
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:31 pm
by holydonkey
Mason competes with Georgetown, UVA, and George Washington (better schools) as well as American and Catholic (somewhat peer schools) for DC. Add all the T14 trying to get into DC.
Florida is pretty awesome in Florida. If you're happy in Florida stay in Florida. Mason isn't a bad school, but you'll have a tough time in the DC market unless you graduate from the top of your class.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:32 pm
by Grizz
I'm not gonna vote in the poll, because if you think you're gonna stay in FL, go to UF. If you want to be in the VA and DC area, go to GMU. You've got a big life-choice to make here.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:36 pm
by ram jam
I would rather practice in D.C. or Virginia, than Florida. However, the disparity of debt between the schools makes me almost indifferent. Though I would like to leave florida, the price for attending GMU makes that decision less appealing.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:39 pm
by Grizz
holydonkey wrote:Mason competes with Georgetown, UVA, and George Washington (better schools) as well as American and Catholic (somewhat peer schools) for DC. Add all the T14 trying to get into DC.
Florida is pretty awesome in Florida. If you're happy in Florida stay in Florida. Mason isn't a bad school, but you'll have a tough time in the DC market unless you graduate from the top of your class.
You're gonna have a tough time in FL unless you're top of your class as well. Legal market's not doing so hot in FL, and there is competition from FSU, Miami, and the maybe even the top students from Stetson (depending on where you are in FL). I would not want to be an "average" UF Law student in this market. You don't have to make top 10% to get a job, but stay away from the median.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:40 pm
by kittenmittons
ram jam wrote:I would rather practice in D.C. or Virginia, than Florida. However, the disparity of debt between the schools makes me almost indifferent. Though I would like to leave florida, the price for attending GMU makes that decision less appealing.
If this is the case, go with GMU
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:42 pm
by Grizz
ram jam wrote:I would rather practice in D.C. or Virginia, than Florida. However, the disparity of debt between the schools makes me almost indifferent. Though I would like to leave florida, the price for attending GMU makes that decision less appealing.
If you're indifferent, go to UF. FL isn't a bad place to live, and debt is real.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:30 pm
by ram jam
rad law wrote:ram jam wrote:I would rather practice in D.C. or Virginia, than Florida. However, the disparity of debt between the schools makes me almost indifferent. Though I would like to leave florida, the price for attending GMU makes that decision less appealing.
If you're indifferent, go to UF. FL isn't a bad place to live, and debt is real.
Debt is very real.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:40 pm
by lawschoolstudent85
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Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:46 pm
by Grizz
wiggsb wrote:Debt be dammed. If you EVER want to practice outside of Alachua county you better go to GMU.
I really hope this is sarcasm, because if not, this is very bad advice.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:22 pm
by lawschoolstudent85
rad law wrote:wiggsb wrote:Debt be dammed. If you EVER want to practice outside of Alachua county you better go to GMU.
I really hope this is sarcasm, because if not, this is very bad advice.
You're right.
If you EVER want to practice outside of Gainesville, you better go to GMU.
(In the interest of full disclosure I'm trying to free up as many seats at UF as possible)
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:39 pm
by GatorStudent
rad law wrote:
You're gonna have a tough time in FL unless you're top of your class as well. Legal market's not doing so hot in FL, and there is competition from FSU, Miami, and the maybe even the top students from Stetson (depending on where you are in FL). I would not want to be an "average" UF Law student in this market. You don't have to make top 10% to get a job, but stay away from the median.
Even people in the top 10% here are having trouble finding jobs. It's good for the OP (and others) to know. At the same time, as mentioned above, GMU is competing against many D.C.-area schools, along with the rest of the T14. The OP definitely has to determine what is most important to him/her.
Re: UF (in State) v. GMU (sticker)
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:33 pm
by ram jam