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UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:16 pm
by amputatedbrain
I've heard from several different people, some of them just other 0L's, but also a well accomplished law professor I know, seem to be of the mind that Berkeley is a school in decline. Not to suggest it's anywhere near a TTT shit school, but simply that it's rank at #6 is inflated, and it really belongs more towards the bottom of the T14. I was just kind of curious what people on TLS thought about it, if this was an opinion that is widespread out there, and if there's any justification for it. I've heard a lot of this speculation especially in regards to the UC system budget crisis. I'm just gonna set this one loose and see if people feel like commenting.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:26 pm
by booboo
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:36 pm
by 09042014
Overratd, but not in decline.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:43 pm
by pearl_earrings
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Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:45 pm
by Doritos
Desert Fox wrote:Overratd, but not in decline.
I am curious why people feel this way. They do well in the rankings but I get the impression a lot of people on this board find Boalt to be overrated. I hear its just the bees knees when it comes to IP law. Anyone care to elaborate on why Boalt is overrated?
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:49 pm
by 09042014
Doritos wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Overratd, but not in decline.
I am curious why people feel this way. They do well in the rankings but I get the impression a lot of people on this board find Boalt to be overrated. I hear its just the bees knees when it comes to IP law. Anyone care to elaborate on why Boalt is overrated?
It places like MVP in big law and clerkships.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:54 pm
by Doritos
Desert Fox wrote:Doritos wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Overratd, but not in decline.
I am curious why people feel this way. They do well in the rankings but I get the impression a lot of people on this board find Boalt to be overrated. I hear its just the bees knees when it comes to IP law. Anyone care to elaborate on why Boalt is overrated?
It places like MVP in big law and clerkships.
Ah, I see. It always seems people throw around HYS, CCN, MVP regularly but B always seems left out. You think B fits better in the MVP category that the CCN one.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:55 pm
by 09042014
Doritos wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Doritos wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Overratd, but not in decline.
I am curious why people feel this way. They do well in the rankings but I get the impression a lot of people on this board find Boalt to be overrated. I hear its just the bees knees when it comes to IP law. Anyone care to elaborate on why Boalt is overrated?
It places like MVP in big law and clerkships.
Ah, I see. It always seems people throw around HYS, CCN, MVP regularly but B always seems left out. You think B fits better in the MVP category that the CCN one.
Yes. I also think DNC fit in with MVP as well but that is heresy around here.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:59 pm
by chadwick218
Desert Fox wrote:Overratd, but not in decline.
I second. I just don't see Berkeley (at least not this year) falling to the ranks of Michigan and Penn. However, the fact that out-of-state tuition and Berkeley next year may ultimately exceed the tuition of any other T14's is concerning.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:00 am
by Kohinoor
Desert Fox wrote:
Yes. I also think DNC fit in with MVP as well but that is heresy around here.
I personally feel the T14 tiers are
HYS
C
CNMVPBDNGC
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:12 am
by Veyron
^Purest idiocy.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:19 am
by 4910
is that chicago or columbia by itself? and why did you do that?
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:20 am
by Doritos
4910 wrote:is that chicago or columbia by itself? and why did you do that?
I bet dollars to donuts its Columbia.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:21 am
by 09042014
Doritos wrote:4910 wrote:is that chicago or columbia by itself? and why did you do that?
I bet dollars to donuts its Columbia.
I know he is trolling.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:24 am
by 4910
maybe he goes to columbia
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:32 am
by Tofu
if he puts C by itself, then he probably means chicago
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:35 am
by Doritos
Tofu wrote:if he puts C by itself, then he probably means chicago
Really? I always thought the consensus was that Columbia was the best of the CCN group. I'm not saying I believe that just that if someone on this board were to single out one of that group to be superior I figured it would be Columbia
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:36 am
by saltoftheearth
Tofu wrote:if he puts C by itself, then he probably means chicago
it sure as hell ain't cornell
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:42 am
by McNabb
Kohinoor wrote:Desert Fox wrote:
Yes. I also think DNC fit in with MVP as well but that is heresy around here.
I personally feel the T14 tiers are
HYS
C
CNMVPBDNGC
HYS
CC
NMBVp
DN
GC
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:44 am
by 09042014
McNabb wrote:Kohinoor wrote:Desert Fox wrote:
Yes. I also think DNC fit in with MVP as well but that is heresy around here.
I personally feel the T14 tiers are
HYS
C
CNMVPBDNGC
HYS
CC
NMBVp
DN
GC
YH
S
CC
N
MBVPDNC
G
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:48 am
by lawduder
Y
TTT
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:49 am
by reasonabledoubt
Desert Fox wrote:McNabb wrote:Kohinoor wrote:Desert Fox wrote:
Yes. I also think DNC fit in with MVP as well but that is heresy around here.
I personally feel the T14 tiers are
HYS
C
CNMVPBDNGC
HYS
CC
NMBVp
DN
GC
YH
S
CC
N
MBVPDNC
G
RE
S
PE
C
TFIND
OU
T
WHATITMEANSTOME.....
Err, sorry, I think I'm doing it wrong.
With that said, I agree with the title of this thread b/c B rejected me - definitely in decline.
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:56 am
by 4910
lawduder wrote:Y
TTT
lol funny guy
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:10 am
by Doritos
And here I thought a JD was a JD no matter where it came from...
Re: UC Berkeley in decline?
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:19 am
by Dignan
amputatedbrain wrote:I've heard from several different people, some of them just other 0L's, but also a well accomplished law professor I know, seem to be of the mind that Berkeley is a school in decline.
What was the argument of the law professor? I assume he had reasons for his claim that Berkeley is "in decline."