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Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:09 pm
by golodreal
Which would you choose and why?

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:20 pm
by TTH
Really?

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:24 pm
by Georgiana
Easily SLS for me. Location, size, lack of general douchebaggery, immense success in things that aren't political.

I don't generally have good interactions with people who go to/went to H and can't imagine myself as one of them or enjoying my time surrounded by them. If I had any interest in politics, HLS would be the obvious choice, but I don't.

No offense to HLS students here, I'm sure there are some nice people, I just think the general "we're the best" vibe would bother me.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:28 pm
by MC Southstar
Georgiana wrote:Easily SLS for me. Location, size, lack of general douchebaggery, immense success in things that aren't political.

I don't generally have good interactions with people who go to/went to H and can't imagine myself as one of them or enjoying my time surrounded by them. If I had any interest in politics, HLS would be the obvious choice, but I don't.

No offense to HLS students here, I'm sure there are some nice people, I just think the general "we're the best" vibe would bother me.
+1 to douchebaggery.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:29 pm
by TTH
Ah what the hell.

+1 to douchebaggery

I've never met a Harvard grad I've liked, and I've met a few. These were all Harvard UG people, so maybe the culture at HLS is a little different.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:32 pm
by fortissimo
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Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:36 pm
by Georgiana
TipTravHoot wrote:Ah what the hell.

+1 to douchebaggery

I've never met a Harvard grad I've liked, and I've met a few. These were all Harvard UG people, so maybe the culture at HLS is a little different.
I'm glad you were dragged into the discussion :lol:

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:39 pm
by TTH
Georgiana wrote:
TipTravHoot wrote:Ah what the hell.

+1 to douchebaggery

I've never met a Harvard grad I've liked, and I've met a few. These were all Harvard UG people, so maybe the culture at HLS is a little different.
I'm glad you were dragged into the discussion :lol:
I'm not sure I am. :D

I think the smaller class size is in Stanford's favor, plus I imagine Palo Alto is a more pleasant place to spend three years than Cambridge.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:44 pm
by irie
TipTravHoot wrote: I think the smaller class size is in Stanford's favor, plus I imagine Palo Alto is a more pleasant place to spend three years than Cambridge.
SLS, all because of this.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:54 pm
by treple
HLS students are very different from Harvard undergrads with regard to general douchbaggery.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:29 pm
by golodreal
what about other factors such as curriculum, job prospects, ease of making law review, facilities, etc.?

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:39 pm
by destrou27
I'd prefer a JD/MBA from SLS over Harvard, easily, with no questioning involved.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:43 pm
by rayiner
Harvard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein
Stanford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin

Out of the "best of the best", I picture Stanford being full of producers, while Harvard is full of overhead.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:43 pm
by Vincent Vega
HLS, because I am an east coast prestige whore.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:45 pm
by Helmholtz
rayiner wrote:Harvard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein
Stanford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin

Out of the "best of the best", I picture Stanford being full of producers, while Harvard is full of overhead.
Brin seems like an odd choice to bring up when comparing SLS to HLS.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:46 pm
by destrou27
Halibut6 wrote:HLS, because I am an east coast prestige whore.
West Coast prestige seems more 'cool.'

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:49 pm
by rayiner
Helmholtz wrote:
rayiner wrote:Harvard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein
Stanford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin

Out of the "best of the best", I picture Stanford being full of producers, while Harvard is full of overhead.
Brin seems like an odd choice to bring up when comparing SLS to HLS.
I'm talking about the general vibe I get from the two universities.

Is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Romero better?

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:53 pm
by Helmholtz
rayiner wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
rayiner wrote:Harvard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein
Stanford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin

Out of the "best of the best", I picture Stanford being full of producers, while Harvard is full of overhead.
Brin seems like an odd choice to bring up when comparing SLS to HLS.
I'm talking about the general vibe I get from the two universities.

Is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Romero better?
Presidency > ACLU directorship

I mostly agree, though. I had a professor who was Stanford UG and Harvard Phd who told me that Stanford produces people who make things and Harvard produces people who try to find ways to make money off of the people making things.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:57 pm
by Georgiana
Helmholtz wrote: Presidency > ACLU directorship

I mostly agree, though. I had a professor who was Stanford UG and Harvard Phd who told me that Stanford produces people who make things and Harvard produces people who try to find ways to make money off of the people making things.
This is a good distinction imo. I guess it depends on which person you want to be, I'd prefer to be the Stanford person :)

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:58 pm
by rayiner
Helmholtz wrote:
rayiner wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
rayiner wrote:Harvard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein
Stanford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin

Out of the "best of the best", I picture Stanford being full of producers, while Harvard is full of overhead.
Brin seems like an odd choice to bring up when comparing SLS to HLS.
I'm talking about the general vibe I get from the two universities.

Is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Romero better?
Presidency > ACLU directorship

I mostly agree, though. I had a professor who was Stanford UG and Harvard Phd who told me that Stanford produces people who make things and Harvard produces people who try to find ways to make money off of the people making things.
I LOL'ed.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:59 pm
by DoubleChecks
ITE, HLS over SLS for me

cali's economy is horrible right now. and as a personal choice, i actually prefer a large class size broken down into smaller sections. more classes to choose from, and ive never been a fan of a small group kind of feel haha, just me.

tho id love SLS weather over HLS weather, i feel HLS will be more competitive, which is actually a plus for me lol.

i also had a professor who went to stanford UG and Harvard and made an interesting distinction. stanford is full of really smart ppl, but harvard is full of intellectuals. lol it made an impression on me.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:59 pm
by Kretzy
For me, SLS. Couple of reasons:

I like the small class size, though I went to a fairly small UG and dropping from 500 to 160 in a class will probably be a bit of a shock.

I like the quarter system (in theory): it lets you spend an entire 10-week period on a clinic if you'd like, and take more classes overall. I think the ability to take classes in other departments around Stanford is easier than doing the same at HLS.

SLS also has great placement rates for those who want to go into legal academia. Dean Kramer mentioned that SLS has the highest placement rate of any law school (Yale included) for aspiring academics over the past few years.

I think either school will open plenty of doors, and anyone choosing between both is in an amazing position.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:06 pm
by heyguys
If you use the search function, you should find a lot of good stuff on this (I know I did when I faced this decision). You'll see my input on some of them--SLS seems the obvious choice, imo.

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:08 pm
by bahama
Helmholtz wrote: I mostly agree, though. I had a professor who was Stanford UG and Harvard Phd who told me that Stanford produces people who make things and Harvard produces people who try to find ways to make money off of the people making things.
Aren't lawyers people who find ways to make money off of the people making things?

Re: Stanford v. Harvard?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:11 pm
by im_blue
They have equal prestige in law, so I'd pick Harvard for greater lay prestige.
H-bomb >>> S-bomb