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Re: What's the deal with clerkships and PI?  
  by: lavarman84   on: April 19, at 8:18:02 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I suppose my point was that I, like many 0Ls (and I know there’s some stat somewhere on this), sincerely 100% aspired to do gov/pi and clerk first if I could. I wasn’t just saying it to write it in my ps. I really felt this way. My desire was so strong that I took a t20 on very substantial scholly over lower t13 (one might be a t10 or better I don’t keep track anymore). Even after 1L I still felt...
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: lavarman84   on: April 19, at 8:13:53 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely for a competitive district? No. I'd agree with the advice of sending paper apps, at minimum. Unless the judge forbids it, it increases your chances of somebody looking at it.
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 19, at 8:12:01 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Dear OP,

Do you plan on studying for your 1L finals?

If so, why?

Sincerely,
Objctnyrhnr
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Re: 2018-2019 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 7:54:28 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Future clerk here. Do I need to worry about general California biglaw prospects if I'm from HYS, have SDNY/DDC + 2/9 Circuit clerkships, but have 0 ties? No. You will of course be asked the reason you want to be in CA. But as long as you don't say "I want to enjoy the weather for a year and then move back east" you'll be fine. The ties question is not as important in post-clerkship hiri...
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Re: Finn Dixon? Any info out there?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 7:53:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sorry to necro this, but there’s almost nothing written on this firm. A recruiter reached out to me today and asked if I’d consider moving to CT. I hadn’t thought about CT (was focused on NY), but I was intrigued by a small/midsize firm doing the type of work it does (middle market m&a in the $100m+ range). Does anyone know what midlevel salary and hours are like? I saw that starting is kind o...
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: rose090999   on: April 19, at 7:30:47 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Thanks! Still here and still listening....in hindsight I wish i would have put a little more time into the lsat. I made the mistake of just taking the free 2007 test on line and scoring a 160 so i signed up for the jan lsat. So it wasn't quite on a whim to be honest. I did do about 25 practice logic games before the test. I had been thinking about law school for about a year until I just pulled th...
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: icansortofmath   on: April 19, at 7:10:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
I got quite a few NYC tax offers with 3.5x so I don't think 3.7 is necessary. I do think you need to be above median for a real shot at some firms, especially in NYC. Still, I know people well below median both in JD and LLM getting exec comp positions and at least one person with below 3.3 at LLM getting NYC tax. How you interview and how you did in JD definitely matter. If you're geographically ...
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 19, at 6:57:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
It is VERY tls that this was asked and that the question catalyzed a conversation that’s now taking place on this forum haha
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=300917

Re: Abnormally Bad LSAT take (should I worry at all)  
  by: Wubbles   on: April 19, at 6:56:52 pm   in: What are my chances?
Shouldn't be an issue, I scored a 156 on my first take, retook and scored 10+ higher and got into half of the t14 with some 6 figure scholarships. Some schools required an addendum for that, so I just wrote a very short one about how I just had a bad day and was able to study a bit more for my second take. Schools required an addendum? Did they say, "if you took the LSAT more than once, tell...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=300922

Re: Abnormally Bad LSAT take (should I worry at all)  
  by: QContinuum   on: April 19, at 6:51:45 pm   in: What are my chances?
Shouldn't be an issue, I scored a 156 on my first take, retook and scored 10+ higher and got into half of the t14 with some 6 figure scholarships. Some schools required an addendum for that, so I just wrote a very short one about how I just had a bad day and was able to study a bit more for my second take. Schools required an addendum? Did they say, "if you took the LSAT more than once, tell...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:47:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
Lower tier T14, mix of B-/B/B+ grades close to 3.0, went into OCI thinking I was going to fail but practiced interviewing and networked like crazy and came out with a 50% screener>>>>cb ratio (due to shit grades) but nearly 100% cb>>>>offer ratio in NYC corporate. Mix of V100-V10 firms for offers. I think it really came down to talking to associates during coffee chats and figuring out what the fi...
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Re: Two Clerkship Interviews on the Same Day  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:46:24 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I forgot to mention that the second judge is being appointed to a more desirable city and a higher court. He would likely be confirmed before my clerkship begins.
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:43:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hi all! I’m a 2L going to a firm this summer (generally 100% offers and 190k/yr). When I graduate I’ll have abou 65k in loans. I’m super risk averse so, while I could manage this loan doing a gov/public interest job I’d rather just knock it out. That said, firm life is not something I want to do long term. Anyone have experience paying this much off in 1-2 years and if so, how manageable is this?
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Re: Two Clerkship Interviews on the Same Day  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 19, at 6:37:06 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
A buddy of mine went through something similar. In that scenario, the judges conferred and my sense is that they both liked him but the more junior judge gave senior judge first crack. Then common wisdom of course if you get a clerkship offer you accept, period. So I would assume that the judges have it handled and I wouldn’t try to mess with their process. If you get an offer, I would just take t...
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Re: Abnormally Bad LSAT take (should I worry at all)  
  by: Wubbles   on: April 19, at 6:33:45 pm   in: What are my chances?
Shouldn't be an issue, I scored a 156 on my first take, retook and scored 10+ higher and got into half of the t14 with some 6 figure scholarships. Some schools required an addendum for that, so I just wrote a very short one about how I just had a bad day and was able to study a bit more for my second take.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=300922

Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:30:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a current LLM student, and I had multiple offers in both general tax and exec comp. If you do well in the program you will have plenty of opportunities. Even if you don't do well, you will likely still get a job that makes use of your skills (though it's true that the position may be a JD advantage job). A lot of people, including those at the top of the class, chose to go to accounting firms....
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Re: Yale Law c/o 2022 Applicants Thread (2018-2019)  
  by: JHP   on: April 19, at 6:30:33 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
I know someone who's been accepted, so if you haven't heard back yet, you probably will soon.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=298710

Re: What's the deal with clerkships and PI?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 19, at 6:26:27 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I suppose my point was that I, like many 0Ls (and I know there’s some stat somewhere on this), sincerely 100% aspired to do gov/pi and clerk first if I could. I wasn’t just saying it to write it in my ps. I really felt this way. My desire was so strong that I took a t20 on very substantial scholly over lower t13 (one might be a t10 or better I don’t keep track anymore). Even after 1L I still felt ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=300927

Re: What school for international law (trade and sanction)  
  by: cavalier1138   on: April 19, at 6:16:46 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
An economic sanction is the first thing that comes up in my mind. Trump war against China (and WTO) would be another example of illustrating my interest. I'm really confused by this. Are you interested in studying sanctions? In issuing them? Challenging them? Advising companies on how to work with them? Regardless, firms and IGOs/NGOs that work on international trade issues are going to be among ...
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:15:36 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:No tax bomb for PSLF.

Wow, I thought you were talking out of your ass and was all set to correct you, but I checked and it turns out I'm the idiot, and I've been slightly worried about the tax bomb for like three years. Thanks!
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:10:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
UVA grad, bottom 10-20% after 1L, 3.10 or something like that, ended slightly higher, maybe 25%? No callbacks at OCI, no competitive interviews for much of anything really. Did two summers of public interest work. Got a fellowship, spun that into a non-A-3 federal clerkship, spun that into a permanent job fed job, now work 40 hours a week for $100k with no stress doing work that I like with people...
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Re: Vanderbilt Transfer Early Action Class of 2021  
  by: Untitleddestiny   on: April 19, at 6:10:03 pm   in: Transfers
. Congrats to you guys, I guess this means I was deferred though. Even if I wasn't it kind of hurts, I had very sepcific reasons for needing to hear back this week, informed them and still nothing .
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: TheLorax   on: April 19, at 6:04:13 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm in the boat of not having a ton of advocates making calls for me / exhausted most of my advocates' help at this point. It helps if you follow alumni of your school. ie apply on oscar or in paper to those chambers that often hire from your school. They'll be more likely to look at your app. That's how I got my DCT clerkship.
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Two Clerkship Interviews on the Same Day  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:01:09 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I have two clerkship interviews on the same court on the same day. I prefer the judge I am interviewing with second to the first. However, I have heard that the second judge will allow the first to offer me first (if he wants) since he was the first to offer me an interview at all. The chambers are in contact about my interview schedule and they both know they are both interviewing me. I also only...
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What school for international law (trade and sanction)  
  by: silvio2020   on: April 19, at 5:41:44 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
What are some good law schools that feed into international organizations or law firms with a focus on international trade? Ultimately, I wanna work in a position that involves law, geopolitics, and geoeconomics. An economic sanction is the first thing that comes up in my mind. Trump war against China (and WTO) would be another example of illustrating my interest. Please note that I am a splitter....
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Re: Vanderbilt Transfer Early Action Class of 2021  
  by: ironreagan   on: April 19, at 5:28:08 pm   in: Transfers
In as well as of 4:30 PM CST. Interviewed on 4/12.
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Re: Vanderbilt Transfer Early Action Class of 2021  
  by: Lawschool123456   on: April 19, at 5:20:57 pm   in: Transfers
IN today via status checker!!! I received an email that there was an update on my portal.
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Re: Should I work as a Patent Attorney (Law Clerk) for the USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 5:05:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
How long after the in-person interview were each of you updated about the status of the clerkship? What's the timeline/process like?

Thanks!
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Re: 169 LSAT BLANK GPA URM  
  by: michaeleid811   on: April 19, at 5:00:21 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
What did you get on your LSAT if it is okay for me to ask?
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: worriedgrad   on: April 19, at 4:58:12 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
:D :D :D Great news, I wanted to update you all. I just received a positive determination letter today. And it happened without me even sending in the addendum I was advised to! I am incredibly shocked at how quickly they processed my app. (I'm guessing my app may have been prioritized since I already passed the bar exam?) In the end none of my issues/concerns caused any hiccups or problems. What ...
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by: Euphonious4   on: April 19, at 4:55:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Class of 2019 in a 100 attorney law firm
Debt: $158k (unconsolidated at the moment)
Credit Debt: $18k
Savings: $0
Rent: $1250 per month
Income: $80,000
Plan: ????

Looking to figure out the best plan for my situation. I haven't consolidated my loans yet because I wasn't sure if that would mess anything up. On top of that, not sure about refinancing or anything like that.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=220025

Re: Vanderbilt Transfer Early Action Class of 2021  
  by: seagun   on: April 19, at 4:52:06 pm   in: Transfers
In at Vanderbilt via status checker. It posts a new clickable link when there is an update.

Stats: Top 30 school / 3.69 / School doesn't rank until the first year, but thats between top 10-15%. Summer judicial internship.

I interviewed in early March, either the 7th or the 8th.
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 4:47:20 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I’m the anon who got plucked off OSCAR to land my current clerkship and it’s true that even in this chambers, people who send a paper app get looked at. Ninth Circuit here--I applied OSCAR-only with no ties or calls and got interviewed relatively quickly, although part of that was lucking out by applying right when the judge started looking at apps. On the hiring side, paper apps got looked at mo...
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: icansortofmath   on: April 19, at 4:43:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
There were kids at the program who did fine at T14 programs, had biglaw summers, and chose tax LLM to practice tax (including some who viewed big 4 as preferred outcomes.)
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: 2013   on: April 19, at 4:38:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
well I mean afterall 80% of the law firm job posting were for exec comp. The other postings were primarily all for accounting firms. I don't think I'm the only one that has these thoughts. It comes down to the decision whether to practice law or be in a jd advantage job at a non legal employer. If I'm in the latter I want to lateral out as soon as possible to a law firm so I can practice law and ...
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Re: Columbia vs Penn vs Berkeley vs Northwestern  
  by: Paul Campos   on: April 19, at 4:37:13 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Those cost estimates seem very low for somebody with a 166 LSAT, who is therefore probably paying sticker or very close. For example COA for Columbia this fall will be over $100K, and since you're using federal loans to finance everything you're looking at something around $370K at repayment after adding in annual increases, interest, and fees. Also Columbia really lowballs its COL numbers, budget...
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 4:08:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
well I mean afterall 80% of the law firm job posting were for exec comp. The other postings were primarily all for accounting firms. I don't think I'm the only one that has these thoughts. It comes down to the decision whether to practice law or be in a jd advantage job at a non legal employer. If I'm in the latter I want to lateral out as soon as possible to a law firm so I can practice law and n...
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Re: ITT restructuring associates mourn practice choice  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 4:01:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm summering at a V10 and splitting between their real estate and restructuring groups. I have to make a decision by the end of the summer on which group I'm going in. What should I be considering? I'm 50/50 right now. The economy will likely tank soon but I heard the real estate group is insulated since they do a lot of the bankruptcy real estate work. I'm not really sure about the exit options...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=299844

Re: Columbia vs Penn vs Berkeley vs Northwestern  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: April 19, at 3:46:22 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Columbia seems like it's definitely the right call here.
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Re: What's the deal with clerkships and PI?  
  by: Sls17   on: April 19, at 3:39:19 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Disclaimer: I know I'm thinking wayyy too far ahead. I'm not making any plans; just curious. I'm a pre-OL who wants to go into PI, but the idea of doing a clerkship or two after law school appeals to me. I've moved around a lot and like the idea of doing a yearlong stint somewhere I haven't been before (I'm almost certainly doing TFA or VISTA between undergrad and law school), and learning about ...
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Re: State AG's Office to BigLaw?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 19, at 3:36:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. To clarify, it would be six figs when I made partner (not as an associate), if that factors in at all. It would be a civil lit position with an AG's office. The small law firm is really good, but I want to experience something else before I go home, all things considered. This small law situation sounds pretty awful. A sub 6 figure job in state gov is NOT equivalent to a sub 6 figure job...
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Re: Preparing for july 2019 CA bar exam  
  by: jirisan   on: April 19, at 3:27:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Am I the only person who is having a really hard time applying? I was locked out when I just finished the pre-registration process and am not able to log in. That happened 2 weeks ago. Ever since then I have been calling the office so many times and apparently no one can help me out? The persons who take the calls suggest me to send emails, call someone, leave voice mails etc., and I have done ev...
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Re: Senate Judiciary Committee Clerkship Interview  
  by: St0pI'mC0nfused   on: April 19, at 3:26:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
For some reason (and someone can correct me if I'm just being a noob), I cannot reply to pms. So, while advice by pms is certainly welcomed, please pm me at: LSGquestions@gmail.com. Thank you all for your help.
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Re: 169 LSAT BLANK GPA URM  
  by: Goldie   on: April 19, at 3:21:35 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
If that's true, then law schools didn't look at my GPA either. And no, I wouldn't think you could backdate a class--I was just suggesting that, if you truly had *no* GPA, that it might be worth trying to turn your credits into a second degree with a GPA. Since you have at least some GPA, I think I'd just apply with your current stats, or else retake to try to have an even higher LSAT to cancel out...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: johngotti   on: April 19, at 3:18:16 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
But most of all, I'm wondering what some of you guys found useful for really improving on your contracts, crim, and property scores (in the MBE portion). All three of those subject areas have consistently hurt me (I'm consistently scoring in the 15-25 percentile range there) and nothing I do seems to help me to improve in those subject areas. Maybe I just don't get it and should place energies im...
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Re: What's the deal with clerkships and PI?  
  by: LivHandsome   on: April 19, at 3:18:14 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Disclaimer: I know I'm thinking wayyy too far ahead. I'm not making any plans; just curious. I'm a pre-OL who wants to go into PI, but the idea of doing a clerkship or two after law school appeals to me. I've moved around a lot and like the idea of doing a yearlong stint somewhere I haven't been before (I'm almost certainly doing TFA or VISTA between undergrad and law school), and learning about ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=300927

Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: 2013   on: April 19, at 2:49:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
Seems like majority of people from TIP going to law firms are going to be practicing compensation and employee benefits. Either that or they are heading to JD advantage positions where they don't practice law but give tax advice to clients or create tax models in Excel. End of the day, I would rather have received my JD from a t14 so I could have easily secured a job at a law firm practicing tax ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=299962

Re: 2018-2019 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 2:48:25 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Future clerk here. Do I need to worry about general California biglaw prospects if I'm from HYS, have SDNY/DDC + 2/9 Circuit clerkships, but have 0 ties? No. You will of course be asked the reason you want to be in CA. But as long as you don't say "I want to enjoy the weather for a year and then move back east" you'll be fine. The ties question is not as important in post-clerkship hiri...
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 2:37:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Seems like majority of people from TIP going to law firms are going to be practicing compensation and employee benefits. Either that or they are heading to JD advantage positions where they don't practice law but give tax advice to clients or create tax models in Excel. End of the day, I would rather have received my JD from a t14 so I could have easily secured a job at a law firm practicing tax l...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=299962

Re: What's the deal with clerkships and PI?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 19, at 2:32:32 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Disclaimer: I know I'm thinking wayyy too far ahead. I'm not making any plans; just curious. I'm a pre-OL who wants to go into PI, but the idea of doing a clerkship or two after law school appeals to me. I've moved around a lot and like the idea of doing a yearlong stint somewhere I haven't been before (I'm almost certainly doing TFA or VISTA between undergrad and law school), and learning about ...
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Re: Looking for a study partner (Rival)  
  by: cjayfan   on: April 19, at 2:18:35 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey! Please feel free to e-mail me at cjayfan@gmail.com
We can talk more about it there!
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 2:14:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Not my story, but a good friend of mine pulled off some pretty impressive stuff despite being bottom 20% of the class. She wasn’t URM, and she didn’t have work experience, but she got five offers at OCI in three cities by having top grades in certain classes, and being a savant at finance + knowledgeable about certain clients. Our understanding is that she didn’t target firms that cared about GPA,...
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: glitched   on: April 19, at 2:12:30 pm   in: Legal Employment
You got this man. I struck out at my T6 and after mass-mailing, landed on my feet. Now I'm doing work in the exact practice area and industry I set out prior to law school. The caveat though is that I still regret having gone to law school. If I didn't meet my wife, I would really be beating myself up over that decision.
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Re: NY Third Department Admissions Updates Please  
  by: excelsior1   on: April 19, at 2:05:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can everyone post their experiences and timeline of their past or current application at New York Third Judicial Department? 1. When did you pass the bar exam? 2. When did you submit your application? 3. Did you have to amend or supplement your application? 4. When were you assigned an interviewer? 5. Thoughts on the interview? 6. Any concerns on the application? criminal history, mental illness,...
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Re: Biglaw client interaction experience  
  by: albanach   on: April 19, at 2:04:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
Note: when I worked in finance I once told the associate I was working with he wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom, because the documents were expected any minute and had to be turned around right away. I'm not in finance, but for anyone thinking this is an okay way to treat colleagues, if I got word of this as a client you'd no longer be working on my deal. And the firm's relationship manager w...
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Re: Biglaw client interaction experience  
  by:   on: April 19, at 2:02:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
Late to the game but this thread is hilarious, and a big thanks to FND for reminding me why I’m not a transactional attorney. I feel sorry for whichever poor associate had to put up with him. Unless the associate works at a really unreasonable firm, I doubt even the partners would take this guy seriously.
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Re: Looking for a study partner (Rival)  
  by: rb3645   on: April 19, at 1:24:33 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm interested! I'll be re-taking in September, aiming for a score in the high 170s. Unfortunately, not yet eligible to initiate PMs
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: dabigchina   on: April 19, at 1:19:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
why would I want to call attention to the fact that I am leaving earlier than the partner? My life is painful enough as it is.
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: dabigchina   on: April 19, at 1:18:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
"Sending me a three paragraph email asking me to send a one sentence email is not an efficient use of your time or mine." To be fair, I've had several partners do this as a way of familiarizing the client with me/easing me into communicating with the client. It's more "this is how you should write emails to this client." So it's not always down to mindboggling stupidity - ther...
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Re: Biglaw client interaction experience  
  by: MichelleMichelle   on: April 19, at 1:16:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Finance bro is a great reminder nobody is the bad guy in their own head. The human ability to justify horrible actions is truly amazing. I don't know why people assume the neurotic finance person is a bro. Could be a bro or a gal. Actually, the tone reminded me perfectly of some horrible female midlevels/seniors/clients I worked with. Brave use of anon. You're right that finance bro could be fina...
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: jbagelboy   on: April 19, at 1:07:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
No. He/she isn’t your friend.
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Re: Biglaw client interaction experience  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 1:00:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Can anyone comment on the banker-lawyer relationship in M&A/RX? Despite how shitty it is, it makes sense why bankers feel entitled to shit on cap markets/finance attorneys considering that they’re the clients. In M&A/RX, lawyers and bankers share the same client, so one would think this wouldn’t happen nearly as much. Junior M&A associate here. So far I haven't seen or heard of this k...
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Re: Biglaw client interaction experience  
  by: nerd1   on: April 19, at 12:56:49 pm   in: Legal Employment

ghostoftraynor wrote:Finance bro is a great reminder nobody is the bad guy in their own head. The human ability to justify horrible actions is truly amazing.

I don't know why people assume the neurotic finance person is a bro. Could be a bro or a gal. Actually, the tone reminded me perfectly of some horrible female midlevels/seniors/clients I worked with.
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 12:54:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
networking would help (edit to add: by networking, I mean asking your OCS. I would not advise doing the traditional "let's go to coffee" think with a judge.). Also, if you can intern for a judge during the school year, you will become far more attractive as a candidate for a clerkship--especially if you are interested in a niche area (like bankruptcy or tax). Quoted anon. I was told tha...
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Re: PHD/JD or JD or PHD ?Need some Advice!!  
  by: Lxwind   on: April 19, at 12:45:43 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Since I dont want to practice law as a lawyer, I dont know how much difference would a lower 14 make from a T20-40. For me , I mostly want to be a law professor, then a professor of any kind, then a ngo employee or a member of the government think tank, so I am not sure if I should take up on the offer for a PHD/JD at a T20-40 school. I mean, if I went to a lower T14 like GT or Cornell, would it ...
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Re: Columbia vs Penn vs Berkeley vs Northwestern  
  by: jsnow212   on: April 19, at 12:41:15 pm   in: Choosing a Law School
Am going to law school to pursue a public interest career (which makes Columbia’s lrap highly appealing) and am particularly interested in international human rights law . Am definitely considering doing biglaw for 3-4 years You really need to decide which of these three you care about most since they're pretty different things. If you're even going to touch biglaw, for instance, then Northwester...
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Re: What's the deal with clerkships and PI?  
  by: Sls17   on: April 19, at 12:30:25 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Yes, people do clerkships before PI. This is especially true of impact litigation / ACLU type PI, or of grads aiming for prestigious fellowships like the Skadden. But it’s definitely not unheard of to do a clerkship and then transition to run-of-the-mill direct services work, public defense, what have you. In addition to being a good experience, it’s a nice way to skip the first year or two of low...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: JHP   on: April 19, at 12:27:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yours is not the only matter I’m working on and I know this task isn’t urgent so kindly stop crawling up my ass. In a similar vein, but for things that actually are urgent: as I acknowledged in my email, I'm working on your urgent project. I'll be able to get it done faster if you stop emailing/calling me every 5 minutes to check in. are you at least able to use the bathroom without asking for pe...
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Re: NY Third Department Admissions Updates Please  
  by: yq63w   on: April 19, at 12:26:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can everyone post their experiences and timeline of their past or current application at New York Third Judicial Department? 1. When did you pass the bar exam? 2. When did you submit your application? 3. Did you have to amend or supplement your application? 4. When were you assigned an interviewer? 5. Thoughts on the interview? 6. Any concerns on the application? criminal history, mental illness,...
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What's the deal with clerkships and PI?  
  by: LivHandsome   on: April 19, at 12:15:01 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
Disclaimer: I know I'm thinking wayyy too far ahead. I'm not making any plans; just curious. I'm a pre-OL who wants to go into PI, but the idea of doing a clerkship or two after law school appeals to me. I've moved around a lot and like the idea of doing a yearlong stint somewhere I haven't been before (I'm almost certainly doing TFA or VISTA between undergrad and law school), and learning about t...
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Re: T30 to T14, what are my chances?  
  by: Sls17   on: April 19, at 12:09:55 pm   in: Transfers
What kind of scholarship, if any, would you be giving up at your current school? If I were in your shoes and wanted to be in California I’d at least apply to Berkeley and see what happens.
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 11:52:05 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I’m the anon who got plucked off OSCAR to land my current clerkship and it’s true that even in this chambers, people who send a paper app get looked at.
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: shock259   on: April 19, at 11:44:37 am   in: Legal Employment
If your client needs something ASAP and I have a material question or issue, you'll need to make yourself available to help resolve it. Alternatively, I'm happy to make the judgment call myself. But if I have to make the call because it needs to be made and you've been unexpectedly entirely MIA for 8 hours, you can't get mad if you don't like my decision.
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: April 19, at 11:41:32 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Given how few judges you're applying to, why wouldn't you send paper apps? Since you've decided not to play the numbers game by applying broadly, limiting yourself to applying only via OSCAR really limits your chances. Sending a paper app at least guarantees that someone skims your app before putting it in the trash.
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Re: State AG's Office to BigLaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 11:34:12 am   in: Legal Employment
OP here. To clarify, it would be six figs when I made partner (not as an associate), if that factors in at all. It would be a civil lit position with an AG's office. The small law firm is really good, but I want to experience something else before I go home, all things considered.
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Re: ITT restructuring associates mourn practice choice  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 11:25:11 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm summering at a V10 and splitting between their real estate and restructuring groups. I have to make a decision by the end of the summer on which group I'm going in. What should I be considering? I'm 50/50 right now. The economy will likely tank soon but I heard the real estate group is insulated since they do a lot of the bankruptcy real estate work. I'm not really sure about the exit options...
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Re: Senate Judiciary Committee Clerkship Interview  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 11:23:25 am   in: Legal Employment
This is for a full-time position, not a summer internship, right? (I'm assuming so because you said you were previously a judicial clerk. If you're still in law school, and it's just for a summer gig, it'll be a normal interview. But also, hopefully you aren't saying you were judicial clerk on your resume if you were a judicial intern.) You are correct, I am a judicial clerk not an intern. Regard...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: not guilty   on: April 19, at 11:19:42 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This thread has been a source of comfort these last few days and hoping someone can provide insight now that my report is in. For context, I have already been admitted in other jurisdictions and recently passed the UBE by a considerable amount. Sat for the FL portion of the exam in Feb and didn't receive good news. Looking at the report, I was at/above the mean for the MC categories and above the...
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Re: Waitlisted at Cardozo  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: April 19, at 11:17:03 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
It's because you applied late, but I would strongly suggest waiting out a year and retaking the LSAT to get over a 161. Even a 162 or 163 would probably be worth tens of $40-60k to you and a bigger improvement could easily exceed six-figures. Don't settle for a 161. You're right in the range where each point is incredibly valuable.
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 11:16:32 am   in: Legal Employment
networking would help (edit to add: by networking, I mean asking your OCS. I would not advise doing the traditional "let's go to coffee" think with a judge.). Also, if you can intern for a judge during the school year, you will become far more attractive as a candidate for a clerkship--especially if you are interested in a niche area (like bankruptcy or tax). Quoted anon. I was told tha...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: not guilty   on: April 19, at 11:14:44 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
As far as prep goes, I used Barbri. I read several times that Barbri had the best Florida-specific information. My opinion is that their Florida-specific law isn't perfect, but it's good enough. The lectures alone aren't always enough (although sometimes they are), but the lectures + outlines are pretty comprehensive. Ultimately I would recommend Barbri because I think they have really high quali...
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Re: MPRE March 2019 Study  
  by: The_renaissance_man   on: April 19, at 11:10:20 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Yes. Posted 12pm today. Passed with 125...massive study overkill :shock: , but better be safe... :D Congrats! Excellent score. How did you prepare? Hey, thanks. I passed the last July TX Bar so I really wanted to avoid taking any chances with this thing, so I purposefully over prepared by taking two months of study every other day (while still working). Used Barbri all the way (as I did for the B...
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 11:07:53 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Having clerked in one of those districts, we get a lot of applications on oscar. It is very time consuming to go through all of them and it is very possible that a lot of people won't even click on your app to open it. Definitely submit through oscar, but I'd suggest you send in paper applications (we will usually at least look at those) to chambers as well and ask your strong recommender to make...
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Re: Anyone Take the FL Single Day Bar Exam?  
  by: SilvermanBarPrep   on: April 19, at 10:59:16 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Here is all of the relevant information: https://www.floridabarexam.org/web/website.nsf/52286AE9AD5D845185257C07005C3FE1/C72305F78AE3CC08852581EF00608534 In short, yes, this is allowable but you'll need to have scored at least a 136 scaled on the MBE and it needs to be within 25 months of when you pass part A of the Florida exam. Could definitely be a good move for many with the one caveat that I'...
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Re: PHD/JD or JD or PHD ?Need some Advice!!  
  by: yfang12   on: April 19, at 10:49:36 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Since I dont want to practice law as a lawyer, I dont know how much difference would a lower 14 make from a T20-40. For me , I mostly want to be a law professor, then a professor of any kind, then a ngo employee or a member of the government think tank, so I am not sure if I should take up on the offer for a PHD/JD at a T20-40 school. I mean, if I went to a lower T14 like GT or Cornell, would it ...
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Re: Senate Judiciary Committee Clerkship Interview  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 10:45:10 am   in: Legal Employment
This is for a full-time position, not a summer internship, right? (I'm assuming so because you said you were previously a judicial clerk. If you're still in law school, and it's just for a summer gig, it'll be a normal interview. But also, hopefully you aren't saying you were judicial clerk on your resume if you were a judicial intern.) All of my hill experience was before law school and not in a ...
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Waitlisted at Cardozo  
  by: rb3645   on: April 19, at 10:45:06 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
3.67 GPA from NYU 161 LSAT (I retook and got the same score the second time around) Post-undergrad work experience as a research assistant and program coordinator at an inner-city college prep academy My personal statement described my experience immigrating to the States and how it relates to me wanting to pursue a career in indigent defense. Cardozo was my first choice and I was shocked to be wa...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Granite   on: April 19, at 10:41:37 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
But most of all, I'm wondering what some of you guys found useful for really improving on your contracts, crim, and property scores (in the MBE portion). All three of those subject areas have consistently hurt me (I'm consistently scoring in the 15-25 percentile range there) and nothing I do seems to help me to improve in those subject areas. Maybe I just don't get it and should place energies im...
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Senate Judiciary Committee Clerkship Interview  
  by: St0pI'mC0nfused   on: April 19, at 10:25:27 am   in: Legal Employment
So, I have an interview in a couple weeks with a senate member's chief counsel for a law clerk position. And I was wondering what questions are generally asked in such an interview beyond the normal interview questions (i.e. "What are your strengths vs. weaknesses," "I see you did X," etc.). I anticipate questions regarding issues currently pending before the committee (and its...
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Re: Ways to improve admission results and risk of quitting my current job?  
  by: yuant   on: April 19, at 10:22:28 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Agree that you should keep your current job until you're way more certain about what comes next, especially if your visa is at stake. Thanks for the advice! Just to clarify, the visa only determines whether I can work in the US between 06/2019 and 09/2020, I'd have to go back home sometime in the summer of 2020 and reapply for a student visa to be able to reenter the US and attend law school anyw...
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Re: 2018-2019 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 10:17:37 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I will chime in as someone with zero ties to the west coast but “shiny” non-9th Cir credentials. In my experience, the original OP will have no trouble landing in CA at a very good firm.
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: shock259   on: April 19, at 10:16:40 am   in: Legal Employment

jkpolk wrote:They don't want to see me and I don't want to see them.

This is perfect.
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Re: 2018-2019 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 10:14:58 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Future clerk here. Do I need to worry about general California biglaw prospects if I'm from HYS, have SDNY/DDC + 2/9 Circuit clerkships, but have 0 ties? No. You will of course be asked the reason you want to be in CA. But as long as you don't say "I want to enjoy the weather for a year and then move back east" you'll be fine. The ties question is not as important in post-clerkship hiri...
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Re: Texas C&F Experience  
  by: Smiddywesson   on: April 19, at 10:12:20 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Just wanted to share my experience because I had a lot of doubts entering law school, and hopefully this will help the next guy. I got the all clear from the Texas BLE on character and fitness a couple of weeks ago. I had several issues that might have stopped me, and really I thought would be bigger issues for me than they turned out to be. In college, I had three arrests. One of those was for m...
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Re: Ways to improve admission results and risk of quitting my current job?  
  by: yuant   on: April 19, at 10:11:59 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum

rose090999 wrote:Take this for whatever it's worth from someone who hasn't started Law school (yet). Never leave a good paying job unless you have something else lined up.

Thanks!...it's paying, just not "good" or "good paying".
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 10:07:31 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Having clerked in one of those districts, we get a lot of applications on oscar. It is very time consuming to go through all of them and it is very possible that a lot of people won't even click on your app to open it. Definitely submit through oscar, but I'd suggest you send in paper applications (we will usually at least look at those) to chambers as well and ask your strong recommender to make...
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Re: Actual Feedback for March 2019 MPRE  
  by: HueyPLong   on: April 19, at 10:07:01 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Congratulations on passing with flying colors, but it does seem like you overprepared a bit. Since it is a minimum competency test, it is more efficient to do less. I also used Barbri and watched all the videos about 2 1/2 weeks prior and took one full test to get a baseline. Then, I did 10 (occasionally 20) questions per day most every day and studied the answers I got wrong (I created a google ...
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 10:04:54 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
I received my district court clerkship without a phone call or any ties to the district. I just blanketed OSCAR and caught my judge’s interest. Based on some sort of OSCAR issue he didn’t even have my letters of recommendation when I attended my interview, and I know he never spoke with my references. The clerkship is in a large-ish city but it’s not an especially desirable or competitive district...
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: Bnonymous   on: April 19, at 10:04:48 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi OP – seems like this thread is winding down, and I wanted to get my two cents in while you are still here. If you want to go to Widener purely as an intellectual challenge (and not for job prospects), go for it. It is very unlikely that you will have your pick of legal jobs when you graduate. You may not be able to find a job as a lawyer at all. That holds true if your goals change in law schoo...
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Re: Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 10:02:08 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Having clerked in one of those districts, we get a lot of applications on oscar. It is very time consuming to go through all of them and it is very possible that a lot of people won't even click on your app to open it. Definitely submit through oscar, but I'd suggest you send in paper applications (we will usually at least look at those) to chambers as well and ask your strong recommender to make ...
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Re: Columbia vs Penn vs Berkeley vs Northwestern  
  by: icansortofmath   on: April 19, at 9:58:42 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Once you said east coast and said NYC you pretty much already narrowed it down to Columbia.
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Re: 169 LSAT BLANK GPA URM  
  by: michaeleid811   on: April 19, at 9:54:52 am   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
My Degree GPA is 3.5 from two classes but I thought law schools only looked at Cumulative GPA which is blank because I don't have sixty credits? I have already graduated and any class I take after graduating isn't included in that Cumulative GPA either right?
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Re: District Attorney's Office 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 9:54:33 am   in: Legal Employment
Any updates from Manhattan applicants? I'm waiting to hear if I'll get a third round interview. They said I would hear in about a week but it's been almost two. Thought the second round went reasonably well, but hard to gauge because the interviewers were pretty emotionless. Posted too soon - just found out I made it to the third round. Should I expect more of the hypotheticals with a panel again...
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 9:54:27 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm sorry that is honestly terrifying. I'm so scared to graduate. I'm applying for mostly employment/bankruptcy positions/firms in the midwest. I'm applying all over the country but I feel like I have more of an advantage around my area since I'm also at a regional tier 1. I've gotten a handful of interviews, perhaps 1/10 of the applications I send out? And i don't know how many applications I've...
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Re: Columbia vs Penn vs Berkeley vs Northwestern  
  by: Sls17   on: April 19, at 9:52:56 am   in: Choosing a Law School
I recommend some serious research on these LRAP programs before allowing that to be a factor in your decision. The programs will all vary somewhat, but as Lsat Airbender identified, I don’t believe any of these schools have a program that allows you to benefit after a few years spent in biglaw.
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: icansortofmath   on: April 19, at 9:52:44 am   in: Legal Employment
Pretty much just be normal in general.

In practice during ibanking internships/law summers, I ended up almost always saying bye if the MD/partner is still in the office. "I just finished xxx/I just go to xxx point with xxx. Do you want me to take care of something else today? No? Good night/weekend."
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Re: State AG's Office to BigLaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 9:48:48 am   in: Legal Employment
I took a role similar to an AAG in my home state after graduation and ended up in biglaw 2 years later. I made the switch to corporate and took a class year hit when I jumped but other attorneys at my agency that left went the litigation/white collar route at multiple V50s (and one V5 satellite). It was fairly common. It really comes down to what division you would be in. In the field my agency wa...
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Getting Clerkships Purely Through OSCAR  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 9:47:48 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Is this at all possible, especially for competitive districts like SDNY/EDNY? From the posts I've seen, it seems like judges only pull resumes from the pile at all if someone makes a call? My stats are: top 5% at a T20, LR e-board, currently a 1st year associate at a litigation boutique in NYC. Because I cannot move and am not desperate to get anything, I'm only applying to SDNY, EDNY, and DNJ. Th...
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Re: Abnormally Bad LSAT take (should I worry at all)  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: April 19, at 9:41:16 am   in: What are my chances?
Retake and if you improve by the ~10 points you're hoping to (or more) then write an addendum. Shouldn't hold you back.
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Abnormally Bad LSAT take (should I worry at all)  
  by: user69   on: April 19, at 9:37:48 am   in: What are my chances?
Hey, just took the LSAT for the first time. My score was about 10 points lower than my PTs. Didn't have a watch and had some timing issues and then got in my head blah blah blah.... However, my question is this: How will an abnormally low LSAT score look (158) ? Hoping to get a large scholar ship from schools just outside the T14. PTs were high 160s -- was gonna YOLO it and hope to improve that to...
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Re: 169 LSAT BLANK GPA URM  
  by: Goldie   on: April 19, at 9:34:29 am   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
I did most of my college degree through CLEP and DSST classes, but I had two online classes which gave me a GPA of 3.85. Went to a ~T30 with around a ~60% scholarship, then transferred to a YHS after 1L. My unusual college background certainly raised questions during my 1L apps, but didn't disqualify me. Sounds like you've already graduated college? If not, take at least a couple online classes. (...
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Re: Ways to improve admission results and risk of quitting my current job?  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: April 19, at 9:33:59 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Agree that you should keep your current job until you're way more certain about what comes next, especially if your visa is at stake.
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Re: Columbia vs Penn vs Berkeley vs Northwestern  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: April 19, at 9:31:17 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Am going to law school to pursue a public interest career (which makes Columbia’s lrap highly appealing) and am particularly interested in international human rights law . Am definitely considering doing biglaw for 3-4 years You really need to decide which of these three you care about most since they're pretty different things. If you're even going to touch biglaw, for instance, then Northwester...
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Re: State AG's Office to BigLaw?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 19, at 9:17:32 am   in: Legal Employment
What unit of the state AG’s office? Or are we talking tiny state where ags office is also prosecutors office and you’ll just be basically an ada? Anyway, I lean towards this if biglaw is goal. As soon as you accept that offer, I’d be trying to apply to every legit ssc and fedclerkship you can. Land one early enough (after 1-2 years at ags office) and I think you’d have a decent shot at biglaw if ...
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Re: Got fired, have some questions.  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: April 19, at 9:11:32 am   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?
Kevin from The Office, right?
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: April 19, at 9:09:31 am   in: Legal Employment

patent_guy wrote:Just be normal.
Pretty sure we could answer 50% of TLS threads with "just be normal."

When I worked at a firm, I'd only seek partners out if I had something to talk about (project update, the Indians game that night, etc.). Otherwise I just noped out of there.
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: patent_guy   on: April 19, at 9:03:52 am   in: Legal Employment
This is a bizarre question. If you see someone on your way out then be friendly and say bye, but don’t seek anyone out to let them know you're leaving while they’re still stuck at the office. Just be normal.
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Re: 2018-2019 Post-Clerkship Hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 8:49:03 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
Future clerk here. Do I need to worry about general California biglaw prospects if I'm from HYS, have SDNY/DDC + 2/9 Circuit clerkships, but have 0 ties? No. You will of course be asked the reason you want to be in CA. But as long as you don't say "I want to enjoy the weather for a year and then move back east" you'll be fine. The ties question is not as important in post-clerkship hiri...
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Re: Ways to improve admission results and risk of quitting my current job?  
  by: rose090999   on: April 19, at 8:48:19 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Take this for whatever it's worth from someone who hasn't started Law school (yet). Never leave a good paying job unless you have something else lined up.
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: jkpolk   on: April 19, at 8:44:34 am   in: Legal Employment
They don't want to see me and I don't want to see them.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Jmart082   on: April 19, at 8:31:38 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
The Torts average essay score was only 5 points more than the Article 9 average essay score? No chance that is how the essays actually looked. The Trusts essay wasn't difficult but when I saw it on the exam I wondered how many people were prepared for it. It turns out mostly everyone was ready. Yeah I have no idea how the average ST essay was in the same building as Torts. Yeah, it's funny, becau...
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Re: Texas C&F Experience  
  by: I10attorney   on: April 19, at 8:24:59 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thanks for your candor. I'm a TX candidate and I've always wondered about the stringency surrounding their C & F process. Congratulations!
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Re: PHD/JD or JD or PHD ?Need some Advice!!  
  by: Lxwind   on: April 19, at 8:21:42 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Where did you get the 15% stats? If you are referring to the H1B lottery, for students who have a master's degree or higher from a US university, the chance is around 55%. Biglaw won't have a problem sponsoring an H1B visa, the problem is they may be the only ones willing to sponsor, and thus graduating from a non T-14 school, or even from a lower T-14 school as an international student may leave...
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169 LSAT BLANK GPA URM  
  by: michaeleid811   on: April 19, at 8:18:41 am   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
Hello, I'm a Mexican American Male, I'm thinking of retaking in the July test and just canceling if it isn't higher? I dropped out at 16 due to family circumstances and got my GED, 20 years later I obtained a degree in a year with self study and taking CLEP and DSST exams. These credits are pass fail though and leaves me well short of the sixty credits required for a GPA from Lsac, Appreciate any ...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: johngotti   on: April 19, at 8:11:01 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This thread has been a source of comfort these last few days and hoping someone can provide insight now that my report is in. For context, I have already been admitted in other jurisdictions and recently passed the UBE by a considerable amount. Sat for the FL portion of the exam in Feb and didn't receive good news. Looking at the report, I was at/above the mean for the MC categories and above the...
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Re: PHD/JD or JD or PHD ?Need some Advice!!  
  by: albanach   on: April 19, at 8:07:59 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Where did you get the 15% stats? If you are referring to the H1B lottery, for students who have a master's degree or higher from a US university, the chance is around 55%. Biglaw won't have a problem sponsoring an H1B visa, the problem is they may be the only ones willing to sponsor, and thus graduating from a non T-14 school, or even from a lower T-14 school as an international student may leave...
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Re: Taking any/all advice, suggestions and direction  
  by: Shredzeppelin240   on: April 19, at 8:06:24 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Couldn't sleep at all so stayed up all the way until my score was released. 163 which is pretty rough. My average of my last 5 PT's I think was 166 so I will definitely be retaking. Also disappointing, i can no longer sit for the July lsat. I will not be getting back until July 19th which is brutal. Today I am pretty disappointed. I am definitely not giving up though. I'm not sure I'll be able to ...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: 2013   on: April 19, at 7:47:32 am   in: Legal Employment
Random question to the people in this thread who’ve mentioned firms with grade cut-offs:

Is it a moving scale depending on tier of school or is it a strict numbers cutoff?

When I see postings for jobs by recruiters, it seems to say minimum 3.4 from top-30 school, or, if more junior, minimum 3.5 from top-20 school.

These seem like arbitrary cutoffs, so I was just wondering.
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: FLThrowaway   on: April 19, at 7:04:51 am   in: Legal Employment
My school, one of the lower T-14, doesn't rank students, but I never once encountered someone that admitted to a lower GPA than me. If I had to guess I was definitely in the bottom 25% if not lower. I took a job deep in flyover country at a regionally respected midlaw firm. After working there for two years I recently lateraled to my home market at a firm near the bottom of the amlaw 100. Having m...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: xjustyoursmile   on: April 19, at 6:52:18 am   in: Legal Employment
a. How did you get your first job out of law school? Applied for a year long fellowship, interviewed well, got the job two months before graduation. This lead to getting a biglaw job after fellowship. b. How did you end up where you are today? Fellowship after law school had great connections and events. Had a great convo with a partner in biglaw at an event and got offered a job. c. Did GPA ever ...
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:48:07 am   in: Legal Employment
I work in an office that is similar to yours. I only say bye to my assistant (letting her know I’m gone, so if someone calls, she can pick it up if she wants).

Other than that, I only say bye to the attorneys I work with when I’m leaving for a long weekend. It’s more to remind them that I am not going to be there on Friday/Monday.

We are a close knit group, but I wouldn’t otherwise say bye.
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Re: Lateral Job Hunt - Constant Rejection  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 6:43:49 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Not really getting interviews anymore. I think the market is slowing down.

Yeah, I’m in a specialty field and there hasn’t been an influx in postings recently. One or two positions have popped up, but that’s about it.

My recruiter said she is hoping the lateral market picks up but acknowledged that it has slowed down a lot since last summer (when I began my search).
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Re: Lateral Job Hunt - Constant Rejection  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 5:48:42 am   in: Legal Employment
Not really getting interviews anymore. I think the market is slowing down.
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 5:31:34 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Out of curiosity did anyone receive a biglaw offer from a firm they externed with? Either before TIP or during TIP?

Yes, at the end of my fall externship.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Hsrascal   on: April 19, at 5:17:01 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
The Torts average essay score was only 5 points more than the Article 9 average essay score? No chance that is how the essays actually looked. The Trusts essay wasn't difficult but when I saw it on the exam I wondered how many people were prepared for it. It turns out mostly everyone was ready. Yeah I have no idea how the average ST essay was in the same building as Torts. I wonder how many peopl...
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Re: 1L SA Thread C/O 2021  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 19, at 4:01:18 am   in: Legal Employment
I found this useful when I looked at old threads so for any current or future 1L job seekers, here are my final results: 150+ applications submitted (mostly firms, 8 in-house positions), T30-ish school, >Top 5%, URM Ended up with 17 interview requests, I've bolded the callbacks: V50 (Atl), V50 (Chi), AmLaw 100 (Mid-Atlantic) , V100 (Minneapolis), V50 (No Cal) , V50 (DC) , AmLaw 150 (No Cal), V10 (...
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Re: Brooklyn vs Howard  
  by: darumuj   on: April 19, at 2:34:37 am   in: Choosing a Law School
good luck
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Re: WUSTL Class of 2019  
  by: darumuj   on: April 19, at 2:32:17 am   in: TLS Class of 2019 Forum
Yeah, was wondering about that.
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Re: Seersucker Blazers OK for NYC BigLaw?  
  by: MaxMcMann   on: April 19, at 2:31:43 am   in: Legal Employment

Tenzen wrote:
icansortofmath wrote:Yes in a lot of offices but you gotta own it.

Literally this.

Know an associate at K&E who got fired for wearing a seersucker. Turned out it belonged to a partner, and he would just walk around wearing it, as if with impunity.

180
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: whats an updog   on: April 19, at 1:47:42 am   in: Legal Employment
My firm is friendly, but it would be super odd to stop by an office just to say bye unless you were jointly working on something and needed to let them know you'd be back online after transitioning home or something.
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: Tenzen   on: April 19, at 12:58:55 am   in: Legal Employment
No longer in biglaw, but seconding the advice about getting the vibe. Worked at a ~v20 where it was typical not to look colleagues in the eyes or acknowledge them in elevators. Randomly saying hi to people in their office? Definitely extraordinary and not something anyone did besides with colleagues who became friend-ish colleagues. Of course, this was one firm. Others may be at firms where people...
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Re: Got fired, have some questions.  
  by: Tenzen   on: April 19, at 12:54:31 am   in: Legal Employment
That poster is wrong, who said it is a violation of the rules of professional conduct to fail to disclose you were fired. I hesitated before replying here, because this is clearly no longer relevant to the OP. I decided to follow up, since it's downright scary how many lawyers posting here think that lying to get a job isn't proscribed by their state's PR rules. But you're definitely hot shit for...
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Re: Seersucker Blazers OK for NYC BigLaw?  
  by: Tenzen   on: April 19, at 12:52:40 am   in: Legal Employment

icansortofmath wrote:Yes in a lot of offices but you gotta own it.

Literally this.

Know an associate at K&E who got fired for wearing a seersucker. Turned out it belonged to a partner, and he would just walk around wearing it, as if with impunity.
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Columbia vs Penn vs Berkeley vs Northwestern  
  by: tla1992   on: April 19, at 12:37:05 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Just another lurker in desperate need of advice.. Columbia COA ~240k Penn COA ~200k Berkeley COA ~200k Northwestern COA ~170 Some tiny savings (<$5,000) but mostly federal loans Want to settle in the east coast after law school (Boston, NYC, or DC). Am going to law school to pursue a public interest career (which makes Columbia’s lrap highly appealing) and am particularly interested in internation...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: MaxMcMann   on: April 19, at 12:20:39 am   in: Legal Employment
Yours is not the only matter I’m working on and I know this task isn’t urgent so kindly stop crawling up my ass. In a similar vein, but for things that actually are urgent: as I acknowledged in my email, I'm working on your urgent project. I'll be able to get it done faster if you stop emailing/calling me every 5 minutes to check in. are you at least able to use the bathroom without asking for pe...
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Re: When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: JHP   on: April 18, at 11:42:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
Honestly this is kind of a weird question, but I'll attempt an answer. The answer is: it depends. What's the general vibe of the workplace? What would be the point of you making a purposeful stop by their offices to say goodbye? Are they the kind of people who care about this? I think if you're passing by someone's office and you make eye contact, then be a human and just say good night, but I wou...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Conster31   on: April 18, at 11:31:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
Navy alternate selects: I still have not gotten an email from OS1 [name redacted for privacy]. Even the LT emailed on my behalf. Am I the only person not yet with a recruiter assignment? starting to get a little worried that I am falling behind the curve I was actually emailed directly by my assigned recruiter, not the OS1 referenced in the email. You might try calling the local recruiting office...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: 11523   on: April 18, at 11:23:39 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
If you passed the FL section, can you get your Essay scores? I’m just curious because I know I totally bombed the MC so I’d love to know what parts f the essays I got right that enabled me to pass.
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 11:09:48 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Out of curiosity did anyone receive a biglaw offer from a firm they externed with? Either before TIP or during TIP?

Yes, I externed in the fall and received an offer in the spring.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: 11523   on: April 18, at 11:08:15 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
The Torts average essay score was only 5 points more than the Article 9 average essay score? No chance that is how the essays actually looked. Here are the issues I remember spotting in the essays immediately after the exam - honestly I didn’t really spot any other obvious ones after the exam. These issues got me a 136 even after I took a FL MC where I can literally say I guessed at 90/100 MC and...
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by:   on: April 18, at 11:03:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also, consider mass mailing plaintiffs firms. Most BigLaw firms have very structured hiring programs (i.e. if if they fill their desired amount of spots they won't consider your application) but plaintiffs firms (not that they should be classified in the same category as BigLaw for prestige/entrance salary etc) are likely to be more flexible and may consider your candidacy. Check out topclassactio...
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Re: Howard University c/o 2022  
  by: Mellie25   on: April 18, at 10:59:48 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

lawfellow wrote:
Mellie25 wrote:Hey y’all (: Happy I found this forum.
App was in review on 1/4 and got accepted 1/31.
Definitely attending since this is my top choice!
Did you attend the admitted students day?

I did! Were you there too?
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Re: PHD/JD or JD or PHD ?Need some Advice!!  
  by: Lxwind   on: April 18, at 10:58:27 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Since I dont want to practice law as a lawyer, I dont know how much difference would a lower 14 make from a T20-40. For me , I mostly want to be a law professor, then a professor of any kind, then a ngo employee or a member of the government think tank, so I am not sure if I should take up on the offer for a PHD/JD at a T20-40 school. I mean, if I went to a lower T14 like GT or Cornell, would it ...
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Re: TIP/TARE 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 10:35:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Out of curiosity did anyone receive a biglaw offer from a firm they externed with? Either before TIP or during TIP?
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: SFSpartan   on: April 18, at 10:22:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yours is not the only matter I’m working on and I know this task isn’t urgent so kindly stop crawling up my ass. In a similar vein, but for things that actually are urgent: as I acknowledged in my email, I'm working on your urgent project. I'll be able to get it done faster if you stop emailing/calling me every 5 minutes to check in. are you at least able to use the bathroom without asking for pe...
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Re: Seersucker Blazers OK for NYC BigLaw?  
  by: Man from Nantucket   on: April 18, at 10:12:09 pm   in: Legal Employment
Where what you want, nobody will care.
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Re: PHD/JD or JD or PHD ?Need some Advice!!  
  by: yfang12   on: April 18, at 10:08:52 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Since I dont want to practice law as a lawyer, I dont know how much difference would a lower 14 make from a T20-40. For me , I mostly want to be a law professor, then a professor of any kind, then a ngo employee or a member of the government think tank, so I am not sure if I should take up on the offer for a PHD/JD at a T20-40 school. I mean, if I went to a lower T14 like GT or Cornell, would it ...
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Re: Advice for friend: 170 LSAT/2.65 GPA  
  by: jsnow212   on: April 18, at 10:08:09 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
(Thought process in setting my MyLSN ranges: Extreme splitters are relatively rare, so I wanted to widen the range a bit to draw in additional relevant datapoints. Sub-3.0 GPAs are treated similarly, so I took GPAs from 2.5 all the way up through 2.99. I set LSAT cutoff at 168, which is UT's LSAT 75th. Anything over the 75th should be treated fairly similarly.) I agree with QContinuum. If tuition...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: lawyer88888   on: April 18, at 10:00:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This thread has been a source of comfort these last few days and hoping someone can provide insight now that my report is in. For context, I have already been admitted in other jurisdictions and recently passed the UBE by a considerable amount. Sat for the FL portion of the exam in Feb and didn't receive good news. Looking at the report, I was at/above the mean for the MC categories and above the ...
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Re: Feb 2019 DC Bar  
  by: supermario26   on: April 18, at 9:57:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I vaguely remember on the second day when the proctors were collecting scantrons that the lady on the microphone said first/second week of May.
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: jsnow212   on: April 18, at 9:47:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
The prestige of the T14 is a myth if you're under median especially for URM's. I should have accepted the full scholarship at the lower ranked school because my job prospects couldn't be worse than they are now. I was sold on the school by the admissions team who told me how great the school was and how career services would ensure I had a good career. Now I have a debt albatross around my neck a...
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Re: Advice for friend: 170 LSAT/2.65 GPA  
  by: albanach   on: April 18, at 9:43:38 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
(Thought process in setting my MyLSN ranges: Extreme splitters are relatively rare, so I wanted to widen the range a bit to draw in additional relevant datapoints. Sub-3.0 GPAs are treated similarly, so I took GPAs from 2.5 all the way up through 2.99. I set LSAT cutoff at 168, which is UT's LSAT 75th. Anything over the 75th should be treated fairly similarly.) I agree with QContinuum. If tuition...
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 9:42:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
I am in a similar position to you, so I can't say anything with the support of having reached a successful result yet. However, I have had conversations with more senior people to try to collect information about what to do here. What I have heard is that the way to get back on track is to get a clerkship , which is 90% connections. You can reach out to anyone who might be able to help you with t...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Granite   on: April 18, at 9:41:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This post is for those who only need to pass part A. I passed part A with what I think is a good score. I only needed to pass part A because I already had a passing MBE score. But I took part B anyway (which I also passed). My rationale for taking part B, even though I already had a passing MBE score, was that even if you fail part B miserably and only pass part A by the slimmest of margins, then ...
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Re: Howard University c/o 2022  
  by: lawfellow   on: April 18, at 9:39:43 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

Mellie25 wrote:Hey y’all (: Happy I found this forum.
App was in review on 1/4 and got accepted 1/31.
Definitely attending since this is my top choice!
Did you attend the admitted students day?
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BigLaw to Boutique/Midlaw: Bad Idea?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 9:36:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’m currently a junior (read first through third year) in a firm in the V50 and am thinking about lateraling for various reasons. Some of the firms I’m interested in are midlaw firms or boutiques. Would it be a bad idea for a junior to try to lateral to these kinds of firms instead of another biglaw firm? Basically, I’m wondering whether a move like this would hurt my career (i.e. whether it would...
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When you leave for the day, do you say "bye" to partner?  
  by: jamesmith0801   on: April 18, at 9:27:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
This might be a really silly question, but I work at the small office of a big firm and my office is in between the partners' offices. I leave for the day around 7:30-8 and partners almost always leave later than I do (I come in earlier than them and not crazy busy at this point of the year). When I saw partners while I am heading out in the hallway or something, then I say bye to them of course. ...
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Re: BARBRI Law Preview - Is it worth it?  
  by: Megfsc   on: April 18, at 9:24:38 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I remember it making me feel more confident during those first weeks when everyone is freaked out. Plus you get access to the Barbri course videos, which are awesome (especially civ pro), though you can always buy those without Law Preview. Definitely agree that it's worth it with the scholarship. Otherwise meh, not worth the price. (Definitely go for the scholarship though. If you get a scholarsh...
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Re: Advice for friend: 170 LSAT/2.65 GPA  
  by: QContinuum   on: April 18, at 9:17:31 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Note: I am posting for a friend. My friend is an extreme splitter (170 LSAT, 2.65 GPA). Does she stand a chance for a school like UoH, Tulane, Baylor or SMU? Finances aren’t the biggest issue, but $$ would be helpful. She is only interested in working in Texas (preferably Houston or Dallas) or New Orleans (she knows this is a tough market). If she can raise her LSAT (the 170 was a first time scor...
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 9:06:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
Just made my 35th PSLF-eligible payment, at $550 this year, ugh, last year we got it cut to around $300 because I applied for a recalculation after my wife left her job. We put as much as possible into TSP and traditional IRA, which reduces our adjusted gross income, which is what the loan companies use to determine our payment. Also helps that we have a house that we're renting out that loses mo...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Granite   on: April 18, at 9:02:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I too just posted on the for sale forum; I listed a very lightly used copy of Barbri's "Testing for Florida," which is their book of practice questions.
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Re: Seersucker Blazers OK for NYC BigLaw?  
  by: icansortofmath   on: April 18, at 9:00:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yes in a lot of offices but you gotta own it.
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: QContinuum   on: April 18, at 8:51:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
"Sending me a three paragraph email asking me to send a one sentence email is not an efficient use of your time or mine." To be fair, I've had several partners do this as a way of familiarizing the client with me/easing me into communicating with the client. It's more "this is how you should write emails to this client." So it's not always down to mindboggling stupidity - ther...
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Seersucker Blazers OK for NYC BigLaw?  
  by: massmailguy   on: April 18, at 8:49:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
I realize this is a dumb question and I'm pretty sure I already know the answer, but are seersucker blazers acceptable attire for men in NYC Biglaw? I'm considering buying a seersucker jacket (standard blue/white stripes) as a graduation present for myself, but I want to make sure I could actually wear it to the office. I did my 2L SA in a different market so I haven't gotten the chance to scope o...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 8:40:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
“If you only looked after yourself, please do not be surprised that your former associate does not respond to your marketing pitches. You must know they left in part because of you. Most of the senior associates know and told the rest of the practice group.”

plus

“Please don’t make us pitch to someone you pissed off half a decade ago. ”
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: April 18, at 8:40:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Being a sniveling bootlicker is not efficient and a waste of everybody’s time because 75% of the time the client changes their mind or goes a different route than you were trying to anticipate.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: johngotti   on: April 18, at 8:38:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

not guilty wrote:The Torts average essay score was only 5 points more than the Article 9 average essay score? No chance that is how the essays actually looked.

The Trusts essay wasn't difficult but when I saw it on the exam I wondered how many people were prepared for it. It turns out mostly everyone was ready. Yeah I have no idea how the average ST essay was in the same building as Torts.
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Re: GULC EA/RD Transfer 2019  
  by: frobscottle   on: April 18, at 8:31:18 pm   in: Transfers
Just thought I'd toss myself in the ring - also applied EA and have been getting the same little updates as y'all. high T2 | 3.725 | my school doesn't rank before end of 1L but I'm going to guess, top 10% 2 Recs, both from my 1L professors Summer: State Gov AG Office (I've always slanted public sector) Good luck to everyone! I'm going to guess we'll get notifications on April 30 (the last possible...
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Re: LSAT Tips for People Who Can't Speak English Very Well  
  by: nicole1994   on: April 18, at 8:19:30 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Yea..i think you articulated what I couldn't at the moment. I asked my question on the basis that because the LSAT is a logic based test, I assumed that acing it would be easier to do for a non native English speaker who might be good at math/engineering/philosophy vs a native English speaker who wasn't as good at those skills. In other words, I was assuming that learning English for LSAT might be...
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Re: Silence three weeks after lateral callback... is there still hope?  
  by: joeschmoe   on: April 18, at 8:16:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know it sucks to wait when you felt like the interview went well, but try to not read too much into it. When I lateraled there was radio silence for about 3 weeks. When the firm finally got back to me they apologized and explained that the Chief Recruiting Officer had been out of the office for a few weeks. Good luck!
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: yost   on: April 18, at 8:12:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
"Sending me a three paragraph email asking me to send a one sentence email is not an efficient use of your time or mine."
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Re: Hiring a professional to revise my resume  
  by: rcharter1978   on: April 18, at 7:57:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Maybe you can take it to your career services office to see if it's bad at all. I feel like this sales woman may have a vested interest in making you think your resume sucks.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: not guilty   on: April 18, at 7:55:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Someone want to fact-check their scores vs the theory below? This is completely accurate for scaling for PART A. Obviously PART B is just the MBE scaled scoring ranges depending on the curve (it will be interesting now that 25 are throw away v. 10 throw away). So, at this point, we aren't sure the new scaling for the MBE when only 175 count nowadays. Anyways, PART A FL MC -- 90/100 Questions count...
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Ways to improve admission results and risk of quitting my current job?  
  by: yuant   on: April 18, at 7:52:03 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hello TLS, here for some advice. Thanks in advance! My background: International S GPA, master's degree in public policy earned in the US with 3.83 GPA. LSAT 174. Working full time since last year in a NY based small PI firm as a researcher, also doing paralegal work for some federal cases. Planning to apply in early September. Questions: 1. Other than polishing my PS and carefully choosing and co...
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 7:37:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
I am in a similar position to you, so I can't say anything with the support of having reached a successful result yet. However, I have had conversations with more senior people to try to collect information about what to do here. What I have heard is that the way to get back on track is to get a clerkship, which is 90% connections. You can reach out to anyone who might be able to help you with thi...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: JHP   on: April 18, at 7:36:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
Dear Partner,

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm going to smile and nod since you yelled the last time I asked a question for clarification.

Sincerely,

Not Your Punching Bag
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: not guilty   on: April 18, at 7:34:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
The Torts average essay score was only 5 points more than the Article 9 average essay score? No chance that is how the essays actually looked.


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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: JHP   on: April 18, at 7:33:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yours is not the only matter I’m working on and I know this task isn’t urgent so kindly stop crawling up my ass. In a similar vein, but for things that actually are urgent: as I acknowledged in my email, I'm working on your urgent project. I'll be able to get it done faster if you stop emailing/calling me every 5 minutes to check in. are you at least able to use the bathroom without asking for pe...
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 7:26:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
2L with a 3.1 from a T6 here. Struck out at OCI with 4 callbacks. Much like you I have been applying to all sorts of summer gigs but I can't get an interview anywhere to save my life. As of now, I completely regret attending the school I went to - like you, I could have saved money attending a lower ranked school. However, I am also clearly within the minority of students. Almost everyone I know ...
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Re: State AG's Office to BigLaw?  
  by: lavarman84   on: April 18, at 7:24:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
What unit of the state AG’s office? Or are we talking tiny state where ags office is also prosecutors office and you’ll just be basically an ada? Anyway, I lean towards this if biglaw is goal. As soon as you accept that offer, I’d be trying to apply to every legit ssc and fedclerkship you can. Land one early enough (after 1-2 years at ags office) and I think you’d have a decent shot at biglaw if ...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: 2013   on: April 18, at 7:09:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Giving me your handwritten comments to put into this URGENT document takes longer than you just typing it in yourself.
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Generous St. John Students, please help!  
  by: AMSci   on: April 18, at 7:08:25 pm   in: Law School FAQ
Hi Edward Cavanaugh is currently teaching Antitrust at CLS, would anyone from St. John's be kind enough to share past exams/outlines and attacks for his class - I am struggling and desperate!
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: dabigchina   on: April 18, at 7:07:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yours is not the only matter I’m working on and I know this task isn’t urgent so kindly stop crawling up my ass. In a similar vein, but for things that actually are urgent: as I acknowledged in my email, I'm working on your urgent project. I'll be able to get it done faster if you stop emailing/calling me every 5 minutes to check in. are you at least able to use the bathroom without asking for pe...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 6:59:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
“Are you conscious of the fact that almost every time you shoot down a suggestion of mine, you end up with the same idea after a call with the client a few weeks later?”
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Re: Advice for friend: 169 LSAT/2.65 GPA  
  by: hoosier41   on: April 18, at 6:58:39 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Note: I am posting for a friend. My friend is an extreme splitter (170 LSAT, 2.65 GPA). Does she stand a chance for a school like UoH, Tulane, Baylor or SMU? Finances aren’t the biggest issue, but $$ would be helpful. She is only interested in working in Texas (preferably Houston or Dallas) or New Orleans (she knows this is a tough market). If she can raise her LSAT (the 169 was a first time scor...
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Re: Actual Feedback for March 2019 MPRE  
  by: 265489164158   on: April 18, at 6:53:23 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Congratulations on passing with flying colors, but it does seem like you overprepared a bit. Since it is a minimum competency test, it is more efficient to do less. I also used Barbri and watched all the videos about 2 1/2 weeks prior and took one full test to get a baseline. Then, I did 10 (occasionally 20) questions per day most every day and studied the answers I got wrong (I created a google d...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: SFSpartan   on: April 18, at 6:46:39 pm   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Yours is not the only matter I’m working on and I know this task isn’t urgent so kindly stop crawling up my ass.

In a similar vein, but for things that actually are urgent: as I acknowledged in my email, I'm working on your urgent project. I'll be able to get it done faster if you stop emailing/calling me every 5 minutes to check in.
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Re: BARBRI Law Preview - Is it worth it?  
  by: 265489164158   on: April 18, at 6:45:20 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Worth it if you can get a scholarship to cover the cost.

https://lawpreview.barbri.com/scholarships/
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: thatlawlkid   on: April 18, at 6:39:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
Its 2019, you should know how microsoft office works.
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: wwwcol   on: April 18, at 6:36:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
This version of the motion isn’t any better / more persuasive than the version we discussed three weeks and 50 hours of editing ago.
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: April 18, at 6:29:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yours is not the only matter I’m working on and I know this task isn’t urgent so kindly stop crawling up my ass.
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Advice for friend: 170 LSAT/2.65 GPA  
  by: cam1992   on: April 18, at 6:26:39 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Note: I am posting for a friend. My friend is an extreme splitter (170 LSAT, 2.65 GPA). Does she stand a chance for a school like UoH, Tulane, Baylor or SMU? Finances aren’t the biggest issue, but $$ would be helpful. She is only interested in working in Texas (preferably Houston or Dallas) or New Orleans (she knows this is a tough market). If she can raise her LSAT (the 170 was a first time score...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: strawberrieee   on: April 18, at 6:24:21 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Then yesterday I heard partners and seniors complaining about a second year who "uses her secretary too much -- even just for simple tasks, out of sheer laziness."

Why do they care who did those tasks? Because they want to bill their clients at the second-year associate's rate and not at the secretary's rate?
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 6:18:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
Similar vein as the OP. There's one partner in my small group that has driven off 3/3 juniors/laterals that entered the group. I'm about to join them. At some point, you'd think that they would put 2 + 2 together and realize who the problem is, but nope. I guess it's easier to assume that everyone is terrible than to assume that you are the problem.
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: deference   on: April 18, at 6:01:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
^ In response to person above, usually I would say "Well, then, why don't you just ask your secretary to do it?" Like, senior asks junior, junior asks secretary. Makes sense right? Then yesterday I heard partners and seniors complaining about a second year who "uses her secretary too much -- even just for simple tasks, out of sheer laziness." This industry is so dumb. lol...as...
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Re: 2019 February California Bar  
  by: Cherry805   on: April 18, at 5:56:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Bar Exam MBE scores increase for first time in 5 years!!

https://abovethelaw.com/2019/04/bar-exa ... n-5-years/
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: April 18, at 5:47:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know it's held me back some, and was particularly stressful in law school/during the first couple of years after I graduated, but now I straight up tell people I did poorly in law school because I think it's annoying when people act like acing property 6 years ago makes you a good tax attorney or something. Congrats on your professional success and thank you for sharing your experience with us ...
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Re: Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: cavalier1138   on: April 18, at 5:41:17 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi, I used to be in admissions at a T14, and I definitely do not recommend what you're considering for a number of reasons. The most important reason is that it won't make a difference. If you're below a school's 25th percentile or above their 75th percentile for GPA or LSAT, it doesn't make a big difference how above or below you are. From the school's perspective, being at a 2.5 or 3.0 won't ma...
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Re: Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: splitboi   on: April 18, at 5:32:35 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi guys, I have a question about GPA Padding. Unfortunately I messed up in undergrad big time and pulled a 2.5 gpa. Only thing is, I didn't graduate yet. I did reading and found out I can take online community college classes (In California it's really cheap), and these will count for the same credit as any of my courses, and they don't even have to transfer into my university for them to count. ...
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Re: State AG's Office to BigLaw?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 18, at 5:30:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
What unit of the state AG’s office? Or are we talking tiny state where ags office is also prosecutors office and you’ll just be basically an ada? Anyway, I lean towards this if biglaw is goal. As soon as you accept that offer, I’d be trying to apply to every legit ssc and fedclerkship you can. Land one early enough (after 1-2 years at ags office) and I think you’d have a decent shot at biglaw if y...
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Re: NY February 2019 Group  
  by: FutureLawyer2   on: April 18, at 5:30:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Repeat taker here. Took July 2018 exam and got a 261 :( I actually felt worse about the essays than the MBE because I ran out of time before finishing 1 essay. Really hoping that won't affect my score too much but who really knows? :| Ditto! Possibly in a worse position. I terribly mismanaged my timing. I literarily wrote a sentence on one (question 5) and the last question was barely half comple...
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Re: NYC recruiter recommendations  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 5:30:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
Ben Goldin is fantastic, has helped multiple I know land great jobs.
https://www.elrsearch.com/ben-goldin.html
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Re: Silence three weeks after lateral callback... is there still hope?  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: April 18, at 5:26:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
I remember that the time that passed before my offer felt so substantial that I figured I was out for sure. Then I got the offer some weeks later and it turned out some key people had just been on vacation or something.
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Re: Potentially bottom 10% at T6, non-urm. OCI in August  
  by: carsondalywashere   on: April 18, at 5:24:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Not NYU or Columbia and aiming for the Chicago market. So I should bid corporate only? How does one find out which firms have the largest SA classes (other than going one-by-one through NALP). Is there a list somewhere? Please note that Chicago litigation is very difficult to obtain. Not sure how NYU/Columbia plays in Chicago (have met a few folks from those schools) but I do know you need to be ...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 5:23:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
^ In response to person above, usually I would say "Well, then, why don't you just ask your secretary to do it?" Like, senior asks junior, junior asks secretary. Makes sense right?

Then yesterday I heard partners and seniors complaining about a second year who "uses her secretary too much -- even just for simple tasks, out of sheer laziness."

This industry is so dumb.
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Re: Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: nixy   on: April 18, at 5:21:01 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I agree schools won’t care. Just do the math and make sure that you actually can get the GPA up without spending years - it would still probably work, no problem, but you just want to make sure you want to invest that time.
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Re: Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: SlipperyKipper   on: April 18, at 5:20:34 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi guys, I have a question about GPA Padding. Unfortunately I messed up in undergrad big time and pulled a 2.5 gpa. Only thing is, I didn't graduate yet. I did reading and found out I can take online community college classes (In California it's really cheap), and these will count for the same credit as any of my courses, and they don't even have to transfer into my university for them to count. ...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: 11523   on: April 18, at 5:16:22 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I passed. I didn't find out until today - I had to wait for the actual letter to arrive. 136/154. I am amazed that my essays were strong enough to pull up my horrible Florida MC performance.
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Re: Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: Rcanai   on: April 18, at 5:11:34 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi guys, I have a question about GPA Padding. Unfortunately I messed up in undergrad big time and pulled a 2.5 gpa. Only thing is, I didn't graduate yet. I did reading and found out I can take online community college classes (In California it's really cheap), and these will count for the same credit as any of my courses, and they don't even have to transfer into my university for them to count. ...
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Re: Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 5:10:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
I regularly wish I could tell a partner/senior associate to ask their secretary. Today I was asked by a senior associate to change the version number of each file in a closing set to version 1.
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Re: Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: QContinuum   on: April 18, at 5:06:43 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I would absolutely, absolurely do this. I don’t think law schools will be overly skeptical of the online community college classes, and even if they get side-eyed a little, the benefit of an overall higher GPA matters far more. Congrats on that stupendous LSAT and I’d say do whatever it takes to bump your GPA before graduation for the best possible law school admissions/scholarship shot. I agree ...
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Things you wish you could say or the partners knew  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 5:03:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
What are some things you wish you could tell your partners/ bosses or that they knew? Or things you tell other associates during happy hour? Our firm isn’t great about sharing, so associates mostly gripe to each other. I just had a junior associate tell me that about half the people in his class are planning to lateral, him included. Apparently this one $$$ partner has been driving them crazy, and...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: not guilty   on: April 18, at 4:57:57 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Common stock wrote:I got my results. I failed by half of a fucking point.
what were your actual scores?
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Re: Potentially bottom 10% at T6, non-urm. OCI in August  
  by: anon3458   on: April 18, at 4:53:41 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I disagree with this some, just two pieces of anecdotal evidence but a friend and I, both near bottom 25% at Uchicago, got offers at two of those three each.
Can you possibly DM me?
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Re: Potentially bottom 10% at T6, non-urm. OCI in August  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 4:50:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would mass mail Houston hard. They love T6 grads, and I think you would really stand out there as an applicant with your school name. NYC is great, but Houston firms love T6 students and rarely get T6 applicants other than from Harvard. I think you'd stand out there more than you would in NYC (that's not to say don't mass mail NYC--definitely mass mail NYC--but I think you'd have a solid shot a...
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Silence three weeks after lateral callback... is there still hope?  
  by: legalbell   on: April 18, at 4:30:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hi guys, I recently interviewed at a V50 firm's DC office. I thought the interview went pretty well. The hiring partner asked me when I could start at the end of the interview, whether I was interviewed with other firms and my personal hobbies, etc... Now three weeks have passed... my recruiter followed up twice and was told that they are still interested but they are discussing internally. I know...
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Re: Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: Sls17   on: April 18, at 4:27:59 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I would absolutely, absolurely do this. I don’t think law schools will be overly skeptical of the online community college classes, and even if they get side-eyed a little, the benefit of an overall higher GPA matters far more. Congrats on that stupendous LSAT and I’d say do whatever it takes to bump your GPA before graduation for the best possible law school admissions/scholarship shot.
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Re: Biglaw Dallas - Non-Equity Partner - Exec Comp - AMA!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 4:25:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
What types of business development activities have you found to be the most useful? My firm is always having us write alerts etc. about new developments under the guise of business development, but it honestly seems like the best business development opportunities are within the firm, and for exec comp at least, it would be better to spend time having lunch with the corporate transaction teams or ...
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Re: After lateral callback  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 4:15:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Same situation. The hiring partner asked me when I could start at the end of the interview but then three weeks passed and all I heard is that they were still interested... Don't know if there is still hope.
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Re: NYC recruiter recommendations  
  by: umstah   on: April 18, at 4:08:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
bumping this as well. 4th year in P&E.
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State AG's Office to BigLaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 4:07:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Around the middle of the road at a T10 and about to graduate. Struck out at OCI due to bad 1L grades and bad geography (went to undergrad in one region, law school in another, grew up in another); have an offer in my home region of my state with a small firm I really like. I would probably make partner at the small firm in around 5 years; comp would probably be six figures [king's ransom money in ...
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Re: GW 2019 Transfer  
  by: Kya6   on: April 18, at 4:06:48 pm   in: Transfers
Applied in late February.

3.53 from T2.

Hope to hear soon!
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Re: Biglaw Dallas - Non-Equity Partner - Exec Comp - AMA!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 4:00:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thanks for doing this. I'm an LLM (non NYU/GULC) and it seems like a lot of the NYU/GULC LLMs are very dismissive of ECB. I don't understand why as my executive comp/benefits class was my favorite class in law school and LLM. My question is, does working in M&A/International Tax at Big4 preclude me from making a transition to ECB after a few years if for whatever reason I decide I don't like ...
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Extreme GPA Padding  
  by: splitboi   on: April 18, at 3:55:53 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi guys, I have a question about GPA Padding. Unfortunately I messed up in undergrad big time and pulled a 2.5 gpa. Only thing is, I didn't graduate yet. I did reading and found out I can take online community college classes (In California it's really cheap), and these will count for the same credit as any of my courses, and they don't even have to transfer into my university for them to count. I...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: QContinuum   on: April 18, at 3:49:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Really, I only talk about it to (1) comfort overwhelmed junior/summer associates who need someone to tell them that it's all going to be ok, particularly those who weren't top of their class and have all the impostor syndrome stuff going on (90% of the time it comes up) and (2) deal with junior associates who want to try and "measure up" to my HYS degree by talking about how great they ...
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NYC recruiter recommendations  
  by: alclaw10   on: April 18, at 3:17:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
Can anyone recommend me a recruiter in NYC (or any to avoid)? Also, at what level will big firms pay recruiter fees. I am a second year looking to make a lateral move within the next 6 months or so. Appreciate any insight.
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Re: Feb 2019 DC Bar  
  by: anandamide   on: April 18, at 3:14:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

supermario26 wrote:I think they said the first or second week of May. The wait is pretty terrible.

omg. who said that?
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Re: Dechert Associate Dies  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: April 18, at 3:12:22 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
It's a shameful title for an article and they should issue an apology letter to the family. It's one thing to be a tabloid paper that makes fun of summer associates and law students for social mishaps. It's another to apply that style of journalism to the death of an ordinary person.
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Re: BARBRI Law Preview - Is it worth it?  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: April 18, at 3:07:04 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
I think it has some value but is absolutely not necessary. I remembered the advice of studying 12-hours a day 6 days a week throughout 1L, and while I never actually did it, I'd feel guilty enough not doing it to study more than I would have had I not taken the course. The one day off a week part was also very useful, and not necessarily something I would have otherwise done.
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Re: Feb 2019 DC Bar  
  by: supermario26   on: April 18, at 2:57:22 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I think they said the first or second week of May. The wait is pretty terrible.
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 2:49:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know it's held me back some, and was particularly stressful in law school/during the first couple of years after I graduated, but now I straight up tell people I did poorly in law school because I think it's annoying when people act like acing property 6 years ago makes you a good tax attorney or something. Congrats on your professional success and thank you for sharing your experience with us ...
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Re: BARBRI Law Preview - Is it worth it?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: April 18, at 2:45:24 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Nope.
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Re: LSAT Tips for People Who Can't Speak English Very Well  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: April 18, at 2:43:27 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
I'd add that formal logic is particularly helpful for those who speak English as a second language because the notion of definitive, formulaic rules (e.g. "If crime x -> elements 1, 2, 3") is universal and dates back to the very first writings that have ever been unearthed, which indicates that formal logic likely predates written language. The better someone is at reducing arguments and...
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Re: Biglaw Dallas - Non-Equity Partner - Exec Comp - AMA!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 2:23:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thanks so much for doing this. I am currently in transactional tax, but I am thinking of moving into exec comp. How are the exit opportunities compared to transactional tax? My goal is to move in house ASAP. I have fairly substantive pre-law experience in federal income tax, which should be valuable to in house tax roles, but because of a variety of issues, I am having doubts as to whether I can ...
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Re: Online LSAT Study Partner  
  by: cjayfan   on: April 18, at 2:11:47 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey guys, if you're still studying I'd love to get in on this!
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Looking for a study partner (Rival)  
  by: cjayfan   on: April 18, at 2:10:14 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey all, I'm relatively new to the forum but have been lurking for a while. I read a couple of the top scorer guides and I got convinced that having a study partner with similar goals really will make all the difference in motivation and avoiding burnout. I'm the type who really gets their motivation kicked up when I'm having a friendly competition so I'd like to find something like that. Coke vs....
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: QContinuum   on: April 18, at 2:04:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know it's held me back some, and was particularly stressful in law school/during the first couple of years after I graduated, but now I straight up tell people I did poorly in law school because I think it's annoying when people act like acing property 6 years ago makes you a good tax attorney or something. Congrats on your professional success and thank you for sharing your experience with us ...
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Re: ITT restructuring associates mourn practice choice  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 1:59:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm summering at a V10 and splitting between their real estate and restructuring groups. I have to make a decision by the end of the summer on which group I'm going in. What should I be considering? I'm 50/50 right now. The economy will likely tank soon but I heard the real estate group is insulated since they do a lot of the bankruptcy real estate work. I'm not really sure about the exit options ...
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Re: LSAT Tips for People Who Can't Speak English Very Well  
  by: hendersonzzz   on: April 18, at 1:54:36 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Wow. That's a lot to respond to.
All that I know is that people who had average SAT scores can study the LSAT and do better than 99.5% of their peers. It's a very "learn-able" test. I would never have thought that to be true, but it is.
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Re: The reality of the kids at the bottom of the class at a T14  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 1:51:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
2L with a 3.1 from a T6 here. Struck out at OCI with 4 callbacks. Much like you I have been applying to all sorts of summer gigs but I can't get an interview anywhere to save my life. As of now, I completely regret attending the school I went to - like you, I could have saved money attending a lower ranked school. However, I am also clearly within the minority of students. Almost everyone I know h...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 1:46:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Probably bottom 25% at a T50 but honestly stopped checking after a certain point. No OCI's. a. How did you get your first job out of law school? - I was a paralegal at a firm (creditors' rights / "foreclosure mill") prior to law school and left on great terms and they welcomed me back. b. How did you end up where you are today? - I somehow managed to turn my 2 years of experience at a cr...
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Re: Be very wary of Cadwalader (NYC)  
  by: UsernameNotTaken   on: April 18, at 1:42:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Because summer associate and recruiting season is coming up, as a junior at CWT, the horror stories are true. This is not a good place to work. Most juniors leave after a year, and the quality of each summer class keeps going down. I’d avoid this place unless it’s your only offer, and even then know you’re going to be looking to lateral within a year (like most people do). They also increased the...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 1:31:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
I was bottom 25% from a T2. A. I landed at my first job through networking. B. Experience made me more marketable and there was less focus on grades. Also because I can bring in some business. C. Grades did not come up for some interviews; however, I went on many interviews where grades did come up and it wasn’t pretty. If grades came up usually I can count on being rejected. D. Yes I was very emb...
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Re: Got fired, have some questions.  
  by: BeeTeeZ   on: April 18, at 1:31:16 pm   in: Legal Employment

nixy wrote:You’re right, I mixed up BeeTeeZ and beeoBoop, my apologies for getting the Bs and Es confused.

I still don’t think saying “I said the same thing as you in fewer words” adds anything to the conversation.

You also got the T, O's, Z, and P confused.

Thanks for sharing, you've added a lot to the conversation.
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Re: Be very wary of Cadwalader (NYC)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 1:18:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Because summer associate and recruiting season is coming up, as a junior at CWT, the horror stories are true. This is not a good place to work. Most juniors leave after a year, and the quality of each summer class keeps going down. I’d avoid this place unless it’s your only offer, and even then know you’re going to be looking to lateral within a year (like most people do). They also increased the...
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Re: Got fired, have some questions.  
  by: BeeTeeZ   on: April 18, at 1:16:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
I don't have any problem with your advice, just your pointless snark about another poster who used more words than you did. First, you can't even keep straight who you're criticizing. The "advice" you're responding to here was given by beeoBoop, but the "pointless snark" you (presumably) were upset by was given by me. Try to be a little more deliberate with your posts so the r...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: legallyblondie   on: April 18, at 1:05:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So what is the best advice for someone who is just taking FL? I got so close which is comforting but I need to blow it out of the park this time so I can be done with this crap. I think the main reason I didn't pass FL is because a) I was going through a rough breakup when I took the bar and b) I devoted every waking hour on the MBE so FL really came second. I still have my barbri FL materials. I...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: johngotti   on: April 18, at 1:02:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I see there’s a first-time takers’ statistic on pass rate. But I’m wondering if there are stats on the total pass rate for Feb. 2019. I know you can do the math on total takers and total authorized to swear in. But I think that number is deceiving. Lots of people with MPRE issues I bet, which is contributing to the “not authorized to swear in” but passed situation. Anyone know of anything? 1869 w...
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Feb 2019 DC Bar  
  by: anandamide   on: April 18, at 12:51:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I don't see a thread for the February 2019 DC Bar Exam takers.

Thoughts? Worries? When will this mess be over? Somebody hold me.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Hsrascal   on: April 18, at 12:50:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I passed 150/161 but I honestly wasn't sure how I did on Part A at ALL. I fully prepared to fail that section because it was (as usual) a cluster. Though I am thankful to pass, in retrospect I wish I would have studied the Florida M/C stuff earlier and more thoroughly and would definitely suggest that. I was so overly focused on what could be on the essays that I missed an opportunity to feel more...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: The_renaissance_man   on: April 18, at 12:44:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I got my results. I failed by half of a fucking point. You may want to consider submitting a written request to have your Part A result handscored (no charge). See below: https://www.floridabarexam.org/web/website.nsf/52286AE9AD5D845185257C07005C3FE1/660E3F5B6C35DE2585257C0B006AA3F4 Can my essay responses be regraded? All essay papers of applicants who took Part A and whose Part A or Overall scor...
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Re: THEMIS DISCUSSION - FEBRUARY 2019  
  by: lawgirl3521   on: April 18, at 12:36:53 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Passed MO today :D 291 total 147 essay 144 MBE congrats!! do you remeber your practice score percentage?? and how did you feel after leaving MBE?? Thank you! I felt pretty good after leaving the MBE - sent Joe Separac my scores and he estimated 130/175 correct on the Feb exam. I do remember in the afternoon portion of the MBE doing the first 50 questions and thinking omg, I knew every answer, thi...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 12:30:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
a. How did you get your first job out of law school? b. How did you end up where you are today? c. Did GPA ever come up during interviews? d. Have you ever been ashamed of your GPA and unwilling to send your transcript to employers? I was sub 3.0 GPA after 1L (so going into OCI with like a 2.9 GPa and 3 B-'s on my transcript). I was around bottom 5-10% at Penn. a. I got lucky and got a job throug...
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Re: Be very wary of Cadwalader (NYC)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 12:23:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Can we please get back to the horror stories. I don’t know if this is a horror story but I’m happy to try to get the thread back on track. CWT’s groups are named poorly. The “finance” group is really real estate, the “capital markets” group doesn’t do normal capital markets, and the “Corporate” group mostly does Shareholder Activism, with a little M&A on the side. Just something to be aware o...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Smiddywesson   on: April 18, at 12:23:23 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I got my results. I failed by half of a fucking point. Wow, so sorry to hear that. Hang in there, you'll get through this. Which part of the test was the most problematic? Multiple choice I guess. If I’d gotten one more correct.... Or another half point in the essays. I’m just flabbergasted. Not to be Mr. Sunshine, because it's time to drink heavy and then shake it off, but you proved you can pas...
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Re: GULC EA/RD Transfer 2019  
  by: tls_toddy   on: April 18, at 12:13:16 pm   in: Transfers
At least they wont have to sift through dozens of pages. We're a quiet group. I guess because there's nothing really left to say until we hear from GULC.
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Re: GULC EA/RD Transfer 2019  
  by: RentAIC   on: April 18, at 12:10:20 pm   in: Transfers
Future applicants are going to read old threads, this thread, and be so confused about what to believe anymore.
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 11:43:38 am   in: Legal Employment
I’m not sure where I fell at my T20-25 school (certainly below median), but I made a lot of unusual moves to get where I am now... at least based on this board’s general consensus. I started working as a prosecutor where the office didn’t care about grades. From there I jumped to a small firm (handful of attorneys), then managed to get into a national firm (probably identified as midlaw around he...
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BARBRI Law Preview - Is it worth it?  
  by: CA19   on: April 18, at 11:33:21 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
Hi everyone! I'm not sure if there's an existing post covering this topic. If so, please send me the relevant link! In case there isn't, I wanted to ask current law school students and alums if the BARBRI Law Preview course is worth it? For those who have taken it, what was your experience, and how much did it actually help you in your 1L year? I've been receiving emails from BARBRI about their &q...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Common stock   on: April 18, at 11:33:00 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Smiddywesson wrote:
Common stock wrote:I got my results. I failed by half of a fucking point.

Wow, so sorry to hear that. Hang in there, you'll get through this.
Which part of the test was the most problematic?

Multiple choice I guess. If I’d gotten one more correct....
Or another half point in the essays. I’m just flabbergasted.
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Re: Is this normal “training”?  
  by: shock259   on: April 18, at 11:32:28 am   in: Legal Employment
What is the nature of the comments/corrections you're receiving? Are they mostly or entirely self-explanatory? If so, the other associate probably doesn't feel the need to sit down and explain why they made those corrections. If it isn't self-explanatory, you should ask the associate what the reason for the change was. As a general rule, you should really understand every change that was made my s...
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Re: NY February 2019 Group  
  by: TheJuryMustDie   on: April 18, at 11:29:49 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Repeat taker here. Took July 2018 exam and got a 261 :( I actually felt worse about the essays than the MBE because I ran out of time before finishing 1 essay. Really hoping that won't affect my score too much but who really knows? :| Ditto! Possibly in a worse position. I terribly mismanaged my timing. I literarily wrote a sentence on one (question 5) and the last question was barely half comple...
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Re: MBE Help?  
  by: FutureLawyer2   on: April 18, at 11:25:22 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Kwesi2019 wrote:@FutureLawyer2,
Do you still have the discount? If yes, can I please have it?

Sure. See below.

http://criticalpass.refr.cc/barpass

Best of luck!
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Re: NY February 2019 Group  
  by: FutureLawyer2   on: April 18, at 11:21:00 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Repeat taker here. Took July 2018 exam and got a 261 :( I actually felt worse about the essays than the MBE because I ran out of time before finishing 1 essay. Really hoping that won't affect my score too much but who really knows? :| Ditto! Possibly in a worse position. I terribly mismanaged my timing. I literarily wrote a sentence on one (question 5) and the last question was barely half comple...
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 11:19:37 am   in: Legal Employment
Just made my 35th PSLF-eligible payment, at $550 this year, ugh, last year we got it cut to around $300 because I applied for a recalculation after my wife left her job. We put as much as possible into TSP and traditional IRA, which reduces our adjusted gross income, which is what the loan companies use to determine our payment. Also helps that we have a house that we're renting out that loses mon...
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Re: LSAT Tips for People Who Can't Speak English Very Well  
  by: nicole1994   on: April 18, at 11:12:49 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
What do you think was helpful to you in learning lsat and not understanding English well. I personally feel that the lsat is a structural test, and that the toughest challenges are in understanding reasoning structure, since even people who understand English cant comprehend what the test asks of them .. Hello everyone! I’m a new LSAT Tutor at Cambridge Coaching (https://www.cambridgecoaching.com/...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Smiddywesson   on: April 18, at 11:11:37 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Common stock wrote:I got my results. I failed by half of a fucking point.

Wow, so sorry to hear that. Hang in there, you'll get through this.
Which part of the test was the most problematic?
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Re: NY February 2019 Group  
  by: TheJuryMustDie   on: April 18, at 11:07:44 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Repeat taker here. Took July 2018 exam and got a 261 :( I actually felt worse about the essays than the MBE because I ran out of time before finishing 1 essay. Really hoping that won't affect my score too much but who really knows? :| Ditto! Possibly in a worse position. I terribly mismanaged my timing. I literarily wrote a sentence on one (question 5) and the last question was barely half comple...
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Re: PHD/JD or JD or PHD ?Need some Advice!!  
  by: albanach   on: April 18, at 11:05:02 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Since I dont want to practice law as a lawyer, I dont know how much difference would a lower 14 make from a T20-40. For me , I mostly want to be a law professor, then a professor of any kind, then a ngo employee or a member of the government think tank, so I am not sure if I should take up on the offer for a PHD/JD at a T20-40 school. I mean, if I went to a lower T14 like GT or Cornell, would it ...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 11:01:54 am   in: Legal Employment
Bottom 25% at HYS, finished with a 3.0. Currently a senior associate at an amlaw 100 in DC making market. a. How did you get your first job out of law school? Got a summer associate position from OCI at a V100 in DC. b. How did you end up where you are today? Lateraled after 4 years to my current firm due to salary compression for midlevels at the old firm. c. Did GPA ever come up during interview...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Wild Card   on: April 18, at 10:55:05 am   in: Legal Employment
OCI. I had 32 screeners, 5 callbacks, and 1 offer.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Common stock   on: April 18, at 10:52:28 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I got my results. I failed by half of a fucking point.
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 10:48:58 am   in: Legal Employment
Adding a bit to my post from above. The link referenced by the original OP is actually just plain wrong. If there's no advantage to being a non-URM under median at a T-14, I don't think any of my friends would have jobs. In fact, the precise reason for attending Cornell is so you can be safely below median and not have to sweat OCI. Based on my anecdotal experience, the strike outs at OCI were not...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 10:42:54 am   in: Legal Employment
I wasn't bottom 25% (I don't think) but most of my friends and I were below median ranging somewhere from bottom 5% to 40%ish at Cornell. Fortunate enough to report that all secured SA positions from OCI. I think once you are in the 40th to 60th percentile, OCI is really much more about interviewing abilities (soft skills). I would prioritize networking and bidding intelligently. In other words, d...
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Re: Potentially bottom 10% at T6, non-urm. OCI in August  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 10:42:18 am   in: Legal Employment
I would mass mail Houston hard. They love T6 grads, and I think you would really stand out there as an applicant with your school name. NYC is great, but Houston firms love T6 students and rarely get T6 applicants other than from Harvard. I think you'd stand out there more than you would in NYC (that's not to say don't mass mail NYC--definitely mass mail NYC--but I think you'd have a solid shot a...
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Re: Bottom 25% folks: please share your stories!  
  by: synergy   on: April 18, at 10:40:56 am   in: Legal Employment
I’m not sure where I fell at my T20-25 school (certainly below median), but I made a lot of unusual moves to get where I am now... at least based on this board’s general consensus. I started working as a prosecutor where the office didn’t care about grades. From there I jumped to a small firm (handful of attorneys), then managed to get into a national firm (probably identified as midlaw around he...
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Re: Biglaw Dallas - Non-Equity Partner - Exec Comp - AMA!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 10:37:26 am   in: Legal Employment
I originally joined this forum way back in 2007 when I was applying for law school. I came back for old time's sake and noticed the site has grown so much. I wanted to pay back the advice I received way back when by answering any questions that anyone may have on biglaw, working in Dallas or in executive compensation, making non-equity partner, etc. I think that's a solid combination of niches fo...
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Re: Biglaw Dallas - Non-Equity Partner - Exec Comp - AMA!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: April 18, at 10:32:06 am   in: Legal Employment
Thanks for doing this. I'm an LLM (non NYU/GULC) and it seems like a lot of the NYU/GULC LLMs are very dismissive of ECB. I don't understand why as my executive comp/benefits class was my favorite class in law school and LLM. My question is, does working in M&A/International Tax at Big4 preclude me from making a transition to ECB after a few years if for whatever reason I decide I don't like ...
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Re: Potentially bottom 10% at T6, non-urm. OCI in August  
  by: icansortofmath   on: April 18, at 10:30:37 am   in: Legal Employment
Isn’t the argument that Chicago’s numerical scale helps camouflage what’s a C and what’s a B and so on? I realize lots of firms will be able to parse the Chicago numerical scale, but in theory, anyway. Judging by posts in this thread, the opposite has happened. People know a B/B- at NYU/Columbia is basically a C at other schools but they are still staring at B/B- on the transcript. With UChi you ...
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Re: MPRE March 2019 Study  
  by: TXLaw2018   on: April 18, at 10:24:10 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Yes. Posted 12pm today. Passed with 125...massive study overkill :shock: , but better be safe... :D Congrats! Excellent score. How did you prepare? Hey, thanks. I passed the last July TX Bar so I really wanted to avoid taking any chances with this thing, so I purposefully over prepared by taking two months of study every other day (while still working). Used Barbri all the way (as I did for the B...
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: April 18, at 10:13:26 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
You guys have been great. I've learned a lot out here..... The people who responded to you went to law school, mostly did very well (way above median at some of the most competitive schools with varying levels of effort) so have some idea of what it takes to succeed in the "law school experience". It's not an art. It's treating law school like a job, have some idea of what the hell you'...
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: April 18, at 10:10:52 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum

rose090999 wrote:You guys have been great. I've learned a lot out here.....

lol you'd think law school was American Pie with all the sex/booze talk. Amazing between classes and my degenerate life I find the time to contribute
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: rose090999   on: April 18, at 10:07:46 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
You guys have been great. I've learned a lot out here.....
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Re: GULC EA/RD Transfer 2019  
  by: MSUN5   on: April 18, at 10:06:20 am   in: Transfers

tls_toddy wrote:I literally have an ad for USPS when I view this page. Probably because I'm always checking this at the same time I check my informed delivery.

Hahaha. Another day, come and gone. Maybe tomorrow? At this point I don't expect anything until the end of next week but who knows? Thankfully finals have arrived and my mind is filled with enough stuff to distract me from GULC.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: mystikal   on: April 18, at 10:02:38 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So what is the best advice for someone who is just taking FL? I got so close which is comforting but I need to blow it out of the park this time so I can be done with this crap. I think the main reason I didn't pass FL is because a) I was going through a rough breakup when I took the bar and b) I devoted every waking hour on the MBE so FL really came second. I still have my barbri FL materials. I...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: not guilty   on: April 18, at 10:00:34 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Would be really helpful if the Bar Examiners would just create their own Part A outlines for us to purchase. I suppose the element of surprise is more exciting.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Elle in Combat Boots   on: April 18, at 9:58:27 am   in: Legal Employment
Navy alternate selects: I still have not gotten an email from OS1 [name redacted for privacy]. Even the LT emailed on my behalf. Am I the only person not yet with a recruiter assignment? starting to get a little worried that I am falling behind the curve I was actually emailed directly by my assigned recruiter, not the OS1 referenced in the email. You might try calling the local recruiting office...
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: April 18, at 9:49:40 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
OP for what it’s worth, a close family member of mine who is slightly older than you approached this whole thing with a similar mindset. She didn’t even want to deal with the Lsat “no time no time; I’m getting older; need to do this now,” she said. She literally planned on applying to a law school that does not even require the Lsat. She’s a very smart lady—HYP undergrad degree. She told me I did...
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Re: Looking for a career change  
  by: rose090999   on: April 18, at 9:41:33 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Sorry for the F bomb but cavalier made me do it :P I think I will enroll in the Widener TAP program, have fun, wait on Temple or Seton Hall, then decide what I will do. Maybe I'll fail out of TAP and not get accepted anywhere. Whatever I do I'll do my best which is what I try to do with everything. Such is life...... Johnny - Life is NOT long. Trust me. Embrace the good times and the suck. Good lu...
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