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Re: SRZ or Kirkland (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 10:38:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
Are you a hedge funds lawyer? If so, go to Schulte. Do you do literally anything other than hedge funds? Then go to Kirkland. Other than for SRZ's top-notch hedge funds practice, it is difficult to imagine a reason why anyone would prefer SRZ to Kirkland. Kirkland is more profitable, makes more equity partners, potentially pays above market, has a much stronger name brand for in-house and future ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298009

Re: Seperac Tutoring/Outlines  
  by: perplixityparanoia   on: September 25, at 10:36:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I would highly recommend Seperac tutoring. It may sound like an exaggeration but trust me if no other bar prep course worked for you in the past, Seperac will work for you in your next attempt if you do the work exactly what he tells you to do.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298025

Re: Jones Day Salary Raise Mechanics  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 10:07:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
It would be useful if someone put together a chart of what JD salary is as compared to market. Because of July raises and no bonuses (and no anxiety about making a bonus) I think there is broader misunderstanding about what constitutes “market.”
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297940

Re: SRZ or Kirkland (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 10:04:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Are you a hedge funds lawyer? If so, go to Schulte. Do you do literally anything other than hedge funds? Then go to Kirkland. Other than for SRZ's top-notch hedge funds practice, it is difficult to imagine a reason why anyone would prefer SRZ to Kirkland. Kirkland is more profitable, makes more equity partners, potentially pays above market, has a much stronger name brand for in-house and future ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298009

Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:58:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP: If you are going to a midsize Latham office in one of these cities, than some of the advice you are getting in this thread is even more important. The fact that Latham is a "V5" firm means nothing (just like the fact that DPW is highly ranked means very little if you are going to DPW's DC or Menlo Park offices). Just to take the first location on your list, Latham is certainly not on...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297963

Re: SRZ or Kirkland (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:45:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Are you a hedge funds lawyer? If so, go to Schulte. Do you do literally anything other than hedge funds? Then go to Kirkland. Other than for SRZ's top-notch hedge funds practice, it is difficult to imagine a reason why anyone would prefer SRZ to Kirkland. Kirkland is more profitable, makes more equity partners, potentially pays above market, has a much stronger name brand for in-house and future l...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298009

Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: 2013   on: September 25, at 9:20:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I'm going to one of the midsize Latham offices (think Boston, Costa Mesa, Houston, Menlo Park, San Diego, or San Francisco). I'm a little shocked at some of the responses in this thread. I think some of the criticisms of my OP are legitimate but I also feel there is a lot of irrational anti-Latham bias with some of the people here. Some of the people here are probably bitter they didn't ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297963

Re: Michigan OCI Callbacks & Offers 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:18:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’ve heard of offers out at each Detroit firm except Foley and Jones Day
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297718

Re: Honors Programs 2017-2018 (Non-DOJ)  
  by: thewaxtadpole   on: September 25, at 9:15:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
heard from NYC DHS (phone interview) and DOL (in-person interview) this week.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=278704

Re: July 2018 Kaplan/Barbri Final MBE Scores vs. Actual Scaled MBE Score  
  by: diatribe   on: September 25, at 9:13:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This thread already exists in a general form http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=281735&start=125 , but I'll repost here what I did there. ------ Also first attempt here: Kaplan midterm- 160/200 Kaplan final- 151/200 Extra Kaplan Practice exam 161/200 80%+ in every subject for Kaplan QBank, all 2000+ questions answered. 100% Kaplan program completion (but to be fair ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298002

Re: Michigan OCI Callbacks & Offers 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:07:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
Foley and JD are much more selective than Honigman.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297718

Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 8:22:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I'm going to one of the midsize Latham offices (think Boston, Costa Mesa, Houston, Menlo Park, San Diego, or San Francisco). I'm a little shocked at some of the responses in this thread. I think some of the criticisms of my OP are legitimate but I also feel there is a lot of irrational anti-Latham bias with some of the people here. Some of the people here are probably bitter they didn't g...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297963

Themis Mbe v real thing  
  by: Lawworld19   on: September 25, at 7:45:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
What were you getting on mixed sets, and what did you get on real thing? And on simulated mbe?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298036

Re: Michigan OCI Callbacks & Offers 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 7:35:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
I heard Honigman gave some rejections and offers. Also heard of a JD offer.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297718

Re: MA USMC Vet applying dreaming of schools in DC  
  by: albanach   on: September 25, at 7:11:26 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
Remember every college course still counts. Evening. January. Summer. People have even delayed graduation to maximize their GPA.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=297992

Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 25, at 6:41:03 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip

christytothemoon wrote:Yahoo readers’ comments on Brett Kavanaugh are pouring in

I wouldn't put too much stock in Yahoo readers' comments - many of the posters are bots or trolls.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=298026

Re: UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 25, at 6:38:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
NY also has a lot of foreign educated candidates (around the 30% mark, I believe) so that would negate the higher proportion of T14 grads taking the test. Also, at the end of the day there just aren't that many T14 grads overall - even in NY. Plenty of non-T14 grads - NYC alone has 8 law schools, only 2 of which are T14s. NY state in all has 15 law schools, only 3 of which are T14s (and Cornell's...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=298017

Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 25, at 6:31:31 pm   in: What are my chances?
Oh well Don't be disheartened. There are still decent schools that will give you a good scholarship. If your heart is set on the T-14, it's doable. You just need an LSAT boost. Delay a year if necessary and it should be achievable. Plenty of folk on here, myself included, have gone from numbers like yours into the 170s. Not really an option. Headaches are still a big problem. During my LSAT pract...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=298007

Re: 170 Going to 175+ in One Month  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 25, at 6:27:28 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
A few things: 170+ scorers shouldn't miss LG questions. If you're looking to improve a record 170 and you don't leave a test with a perfect LG section that's like the only time I recommend cancelling an LSAT. You're trying to improve like 4 or 5 questions. 1 LG point may seem insignificant until you understand that it's a full~20% of that makeup you need. I don't agree with the advice to cancel. ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=298015

Re: Grad School Presitge?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 25, at 6:24:09 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum

albanach wrote:Bigger question is why do grad school if you want to be a lawyer?

I second this - especially as OP says the grad program they want to enroll in "isn't very well-known, if at all." I could see an argument for doing, say, a HKS or Woodrow Wilson degree, depending on one's interests. But a little-known grad program is unlikely to be of any benefit to OP down the road.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=298020

Re: Confused by some terminology on TLS  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 25, at 6:21:23 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
T1 refers to law schools with a USNWR ranking between 14/15-50 (or, sometimes, between 20-50, depending on the poster and the context). T2/TT = schools ranked 51-100, T3/TTT = 101-150, and T4 = the rest of the ranked schools, 151+. The top law schools are referred to as the T13/T14 (top 13 or 14 law schools), and the T20 (schools ranked between 14/15-20; occasionally, T20 is used to refer to all s...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=298034

Re: Jones Day Salary Raise Mechanics  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 6:17:09 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Class of 2016 in a major market office here. Started at $180k and got bumped to $190k January 2018. Received a much more sizable bump July 2018. My current comp is at or above market + bonus at lockstep firms.

Are the January bumps a normal thing? I thought JD only did July bumps?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297940

Re: Non-"Litigation" BigLaw Practice and Possible Future Clerkship  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: September 25, at 6:16:35 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I don't think this hurts you, or not much. We never really weighed differently folks who did general civil litigation vs. white collar or some other other specialty (despite white collar, for instance, being very very different from general lit). (As a caveat to this, if an applicant had been out of school for longer than the norm (1-3 years), we might think a little harder about their ability to ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=298031

Re: MA USMC Vet applying dreaming of schools in DC  
  by: burner   on: September 25, at 6:16:29 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
Yeah, you know what you need to do- get As the rest of your time in UG and crush the LSAT. Being a Veteran gets you a good bump, and it helps that school will be paid for too. You just need to execute now.

S/F
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=297992

Re: Lateral Screener (call)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 6:12:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I ended up getting a callback, then offer.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297435

Re: Jones Day Salary Raise Mechanics  
  by: 2013   on: September 25, at 6:08:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
Class of 2016 in a major market office here. Started at $180k and got bumped to $190k January 2018. Received a much more sizable bump July 2018. My current comp is at or above market + bonus at lockstep firms. So you’re saying that your current salary is at or above roughly $232,500 ($200k base, $7500 summer bonus, $25k market bonus for this year under the current scale)? If so, that’s great. Obv...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297940

Confused by some terminology on TLS  
  by: lawschool99   on: September 25, at 5:55:54 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I've seen some common terminology on TLS that I wasn't aware of so wanted to get some insights. 1. When referencing law schools, people typically use terms like T1, T2, T3 etc. I'm assuming these refer to tiers? Which schools would fall under these tiers? Are these determined solely by ranking? 2. When people post their own stats to get chanced for law school admissions, I've seen terms like T, TT...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=298034

Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: christytothemoon   on: September 25, at 5:54:52 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
Yahoo readers’ comments on Brett Kavanaugh are pouring in, now in the tens of thousands and multiplying by the second. Many stand by the Supreme Court nominee, while others express support for the women who have accused him of sexual assault. But certain emotions seem to unite them all: disgust, fear, as well as the question: How did we get here?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=298026

Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 5:45:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a student, so sorry to not add anything helpful here, but am I really not going to be able to get 7 hours/night most nights? I understand when work happens there will be times I am in the office late/'all night', but outside of those situations...I was under the impression, including weekends, I should be able to get a full night of sleep something like 4-5 nights/week. Is that not the case? ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298010

Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: MASH_Law   on: September 25, at 5:32:53 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
Maybe it is time for a change in the way society views these schools and those that attend them. Yes, but how? What are the first reasonable steps to take? 1) Punish those that are found guilty of sex crimes. 2) If someone is accused of a sex crime, then that person has no place in the legal system until all crimes are investigated. Not that criminal charges are necessary, however. If accusations...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=298026

Re: Jones Day Salary Raise Mechanics  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 5:07:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Class of 2016 in a major market office here. Started at $180k and got bumped to $190k January 2018. Received a much more sizable bump July 2018. My current comp is at or above market + bonus at lockstep firms.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297940

Non-"Litigation" BigLaw Practice and Possible Future Clerkship  
  by: ChrisCooley   on: September 25, at 4:40:39 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm a recent law school graduate that is about to start working as an associate in a BigLaw Bankruptcy/Reorganization practice. My question is whether pigeonholing myself into this particular practice group will hurt any chance I might have had at clerking after practicing for a bit (and not just for a bankruptcy judge). Obviously, I took the job and selected the practice group because I wanted it...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=298031

Re: Harvard hasn't processed app fee?  
  by: TheLaw1995   on: September 25, at 4:38:58 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Are you a GRE applicant? Same thing happened to me. Paid last week, Harvard indicated that it’s received my app on the status portal, but my CAS report and app fee are still outstanding.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=298022

Re: Denver?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 4:31:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
are husch dings out?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297321

Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: christytothemoon   on: September 25, at 4:25:14 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
It is a real shame that it takes our law students to call the supreme court out on such a hideous scandal.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=298026

PS Topic Help  
  by: alphabetsoupxyz   on: September 25, at 3:57:11 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
I am really struggling with what to write my PS about and have at least 20 different starts. If any one could give me feed back on this (rough) opener. Should I carry on with it or scrap it? Am I at least somewhat doing the right thing for a PS or am I totally off base? The idea of bodily autonomy was not introduced to me until I was twenty-three, when a friend I was becoming close with asked for ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=298030

Transfer 2L Looking for Summer Associate Position  
  by: TransferLaw   on: September 25, at 3:48:34 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Hi all, I recently transferred law schools as a 2L. My experience has been great so far, except that I was admitted after the OCI process ended. For the last few weeks, I have been directly emailing firms and contacting anyone that might be able to help pass my resume along for a summer associate position. I recently connected with a lawyer who connected me with a NY firm. She had been a partner t...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=298029

Re: Withers Worldwide?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 3:46:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
Interviewed with and got an offer from their NY office almost 2 years ago (corporate). If I hadn't decided to move to another state, I would've accepted. Their base pay is lower than market, but their billable requirement is also lower (I believe it was around 1,800 or 1,850, and a real number at that -- unlike at other firms where the actual billable requirement is a couple of hundred hours more ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288537

Re: Withers Worldwide?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 3:45:22 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone has update about offer?

Nothing yet...

Any knowledge about how/when they might ding people

I'm getting anxious... I have another offer from a different firm but I really want Withers. Any news?

Still waiting here

are you all waiting on New Haven?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288537

Help with creating a study schedule? When should I start?  
  by: neeks8282   on: September 25, at 3:31:37 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Just graduated back in May from a decent state school with just north of a 3.7. I was studying a little bit towards the end of my undergraduate career but was more focused on getting drunk and partying. Anyway, I accepted a position with Teach for America and have just completed my first 2 weeks of school. I lucked out and got placed at a school with more support than usual for a TFA school and th...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=298028

Re: NY Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 3:30:21 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Still waiting on Hughes Hubbard - keep getting encouraging emails weekly saying that they have not come to a decision yet. Did anyone accept or deny their offer?

I accepted my offer recently and they told me they still have offers outstanding. My guess is that you will hear when all of the outstanding offers are answered. Good luck to you!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297078

Re: Denver?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 3:16:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
I have heard of Cooley and DGS offers out
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297321

Re: Michigan OCI Callbacks & Offers 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 3:08:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
I wouldn't necessarily say one is harder than the other. All three are very competitive and only looking to hire the best. It really depends on the class size along with other internal factors.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297718

Re: Akin Gump Dallas —tell me what you know!!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 2:58:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
Face time requirements? Telecommuting? Leaving at a decent time? Weekend work? What are the norms in this office? I’m considering an offer but don’t want to start my career off on the wrong foot when I know I’m looking for somewhere humane (for biglaw). Oh and I’m doing litigation. Do you have any other offers? This sounds suggestive that I should avoid if possible. Was that your intention? Just ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297931

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 2:50:29 pm   in: Legal Employment

oboboy14 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So...this is late September... interview offers have to come out this week right?

They better.

Last year they came out on the last Thursday in September, and informal components generally came out the day before, so, tomorrow.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288597

Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 2:32:19 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I called and Melissa from the HR department said they just started making selections.

Thank you!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=223986

Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 2:28:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
I called and Melissa from the HR department said they just started making selections.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=223986

Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 2:26:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thank you. That is why I am holding off to apply until April 2019. I intend to be ready to go as of the interview date, both physically and mentally. As my previous posts indicate I am a 2013 T14 graduate currently in biglaw. Do you have a suggestion on who best to chase down for recommendations? My firm leadership will not exactly be thrilled to assist me in leaving the firm. Also, when you say ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=31543

Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 2:17:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
The HR people are pretty pleasant (or at least they were). I'd call for an update
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=223986

Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Lawmakers   on: September 25, at 2:10:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
This is ridiculous. Does anyone knows whats going on?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=223986

Re: ALL THINGS ILLINOIS BAR EXAM  
  by: al_decisis731   on: September 25, at 2:00:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know if the scoring memo/percentiles come out on the day of results or beforehand?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=274630

Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: ronaldo09   on: September 25, at 1:43:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Also once you hit the 2 year mark (for others earlier) you learn when partner/senior associate is bluffing on deadlines and you get a feel about the real deadlines so you start to use your time more wisely. And you also do things faster which helps the first point.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298010

Re: UT Early Decision - Out of State Applicant  
  by: sev   on: September 25, at 1:26:03 pm   in: What are my chances?
I don't like to post on TLS but I had to comment on this one. I'd definitely ED if you're dead set on Texas. UT is super stingy with aid and the fact that you're out of state will hurt you a lot when it comes to scholarship negotiations (they have to take a certain percentage of their class from in state students). However, it will probably not boost your chances of admission--there's no statistic...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=297884

Re: Nelson Mullins — tell me what you know!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 1:12:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Can confirm this. Friend of mine is at Nelson Mullins and he is only credited for hours if the client pays. That aside, he seems to like it.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298011

Re: MA USMC Vet applying dreaming of schools in DC  
  by: Usmchedonist   on: September 25, at 1:01:01 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum

albanach wrote:I think you already know the answer here. You want GT and to get there you really want to boost both the GPA and the LSAT.


I think you ideally want that GPA to be over 3.5 and an LSAT closer to 170.
Thanks, I was hoping my research would yield realistic answers. Unfortunately, it’s nearly impossible to bring up my GPA to a 3.5, but I’ll definitely keep working towards that 169-170.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=297992

Re: MA USMC Vet applying dreaming of schools in DC  
  by: Usmchedonist   on: September 25, at 12:58:05 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
What year of undergrad are you currently in? Also, will you still have GI Bill eligibility to use for law school? Also, did you go to college before the military (like community college)? I only ask because LSAC will compute all college courses attended for your LSAC GPA, not just your undergraduate school. I’m beginning my junior year. I did the math and calculated that the highest LSAT GPA I co...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=297992

Re: Bay Area Offers  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 12:57:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
Are there any firms still hiring SAs at this stage? Need to be there for a family reason so trying to switch the market.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297268

Re: Withers Worldwide?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 12:57:12 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone has update about offer?

Nothing yet...

Any knowledge about how/when they might ding people

I'm getting anxious... I have another offer from a different firm but I really want Withers. Any news?

Still waiting here
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288537

Re: Military Law  
  by: mrosmith   on: September 25, at 12:46:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
If there are any criminal, drug, mental health, credit, weight, etc. issues, what have you done to show that's not you anymore? If your interviewer likes you, they will try to explain these things away. Help them. If you got caught for underage drinking in college, maybe volunteer for some kind of designated driver program. Stuff like that. One thing specifically - do not be over your weight limi...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=31543

Re: Lateral Screener (call)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 12:43:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
SO- is a firm going to give a screener to someone as a lateral that they wouldn't hire - meaning at this point they've overlooked grades/experience whatever and its about fit similar to say a callback during OCI? Also: is the screener/callback/offer ratio higher, lower, or its random when compared to OCI These Qs are for a junior lateral I think as a lateral without the right grades it’s all abou...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=297435

Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: SenorGato   on: September 25, at 12:41:33 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
Maybe it is time for a change in the way society views these schools and those that attend them. Yes, but how? What are the first reasonable steps to take? 1) Punish those that are found guilty of sex crimes. 2) If someone is accused of a sex crime, then that person has no place in the legal system until all crimes are investigated. Not that criminal charges are necessary, however. If accusations...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 12:30:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
1. You need to give fewer fucks. It's very difficult (although some legitimately insane people can do it) to keep up the same striver bullshit you did in college and law school. For normal people, you really just have to round the edges and not push as hard. I'm not saying do shit work, but I am saying you should prioritize and only do the things you absolutely have to do (again, this does not me...
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Re: 170 Going to 175+ in One Month  
  by: AJordan   on: September 25, at 12:27:09 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
A few things: 170+ scorers shouldn't miss LG questions. If you're looking to improve a record 170 and you don't leave a test with a perfect LG section that's like the only time I recommend cancelling an LSAT. You're trying to improve like 4 or 5 questions. 1 LG point may seem insignificant until you understand that it's a full~20% of that makeup you need. As far as LR is concerned, it's also conce...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 12:15:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone going into the Army Jan class? Hi- I submitted all of my required documents by end of June and have not heard back on anything, my understanding is I am waiting on HRC to medically qualify me but I have not heard on what class I am assigned. When did you find out your class? I originally assumed I would be October class. I’m in the same boat as you. I submitted all my required documents by...
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Re: WUSTL Class of 2022 Thread  
  by: kamik01   on: September 25, at 12:12:41 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

SirAlexFerguson wrote:
kamik01 wrote:Got my interview scheduled. Will update on how it goes.

when did you apply and how many days did it take for them to reach out to you after you submitted?

Went complete September 15th, got interview request September 19th
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Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: MASH_Law   on: September 25, at 12:11:53 pm   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
What Teens Think of the Kavanaugh Accusations
“They just keep saying ‘Boys will be boys.’ But I’m in high school—I don’t want that to happen to me.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/arch ... ns/570994/
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Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: MASH_Law   on: September 25, at 11:57:21 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip

SenorGato wrote:Maybe it is time for a change in the way society views these schools and those that attend them.

Yes, but how? What are the first reasonable steps to take?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=298026

Re: July 2018 Kaplan/Barbri Final MBE Scores vs. Actual Scaled MBE Score  
  by: ast52017   on: September 25, at 11:45:27 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I got a PM, but I am too new here to respond privately so I wanted to post a response back on this thread: Question was from someone who hasn't gotten their scores back about how I felt after the MBE. In short, I felt terrible. Absolutely crushed. I did feel like the BarBri MBE question format was distinct from the actual MBE questions, so I was panicking during the exam and up until I found out t...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 11:44:24 am   in: Legal Employment
If there are any criminal, drug, mental health, credit, weight, etc. issues, what have you done to show that's not you anymore? If your interviewer likes you, they will try to explain these things away. Help them. If you got caught for underage drinking in college, maybe volunteer for some kind of designated driver program. Stuff like that. One thing specifically - do not be over your weight limi...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=31543

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: oboboy14   on: September 25, at 11:42:19 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:So...this is late September... interview offers have to come out this week right?

They better.
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: ronaldo09   on: September 25, at 11:36:58 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:You can only work 24 hours in a day. You can only do such a good job as you are a human being with exactly your set of skills and abilities.

This is very important to understand. A lot of the stress that comes as an associate is from assignments where partner/senior associate places unreasonable deadlines and demands.
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 11:30:51 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm a student, so sorry to not add anything helpful here, but am I really not going to be able to get 7 hours/night most nights? I understand when work happens there will be times I am in the office late/'all night', but outside of those situations...I was under the impression, including weekends, I should be able to get a full night of sleep something like 4-5 nights/week. Is that not the case? ...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 11:09:46 am   in: Legal Employment
1. You need to give fewer fucks. It's very difficult (although some legitimately insane people can do it) to keep up the same striver bullshit you did in college and law school. For normal people, you really just have to round the edges and not push as hard. I'm not saying do shit work, but I am saying you should prioritize and only do the things you absolutely have to do (again, this does not mea...
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Re: DOT Honors Hiring for 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 11:07:55 am   in: Legal Employment
Still no news. I looked at the thread from last year, and it looks like the callbacks were sent out in a few waves, ending roughly by late September/ early October. So I guess not all hope is lost yet? I still have some hope since I haven't seen any posts indicating that second round interview offers have gone out yet, but there seem to be fewer people on the threads this year so it is difficult ...
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Re: Does Kirkland’s open market system allow associates to work in distinct practice groups?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 11:07:37 am   in: Legal Employment
I'd be curious to hear more from Kirkland NY associates about this. I spoke to one Kirkland NY litigation associate in a niche lit speciality, and he said that it was discouraged (if not outright disallowed) for him to work outside of that group. My sense was that, if you're in the general commercial lit group, it's open market within that group. But there are discrete practice groups within litig...
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 10:58:52 am   in: Legal Employment
Any idea about the flexibility and timeline of the Orleans Public Defenders hiring process? I submitted my application recently and got an interview request only a few days later, which is AMAZING but it's so early in the year. I would love to work there, but I am gunning for Prettyman, Bronx and Brooklyn.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=171348

Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: theswisswereright   on: September 25, at 10:55:51 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
theswisswereright wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day in Dallas is looking for 3Ls for its transactional group.

Source? I don’t see a posting on their site.

Career Services at my school sent an email to 3Ls.
Gotcha. Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: SenorGato   on: September 25, at 10:50:20 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
Maybe it is time for a change in the way society views these schools and those that attend them.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=298026

Re: Thoughts on Covington DC?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 10:42:41 am   in: Legal Employment
OP here. Thanks for all the feedback! Glad to hear it's still well-received. I definitely get that the social culture is different, but as one of the above posters said, that's one of the things that drew me there. I spent last summer at a V10 that was very much a work hard/play-hard-with-folks-at-work place and it wasn't really for me.
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Re: My Personal Statement as of now, need critiques please  
  by: kellyjohnson   on: September 25, at 10:40:43 am   in: Law School Personal Statements
PM me. I will help you fix it.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: mike241   on: September 25, at 10:37:10 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
two questions: if you pass, you only get the Part A and Part B scores, right? There is no further breakdown of your score?
Also, is there any way to find out about percentiles?
thanks
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=248152

Re: Lateral Screener (call)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 10:32:45 am   in: Legal Employment
SO- is a firm going to give a screener to someone as a lateral that they wouldn't hire - meaning at this point they've overlooked grades/experience whatever and its about fit similar to say a callback during OCI?

Also: is the screener/callback/offer ratio higher, lower, or its random when compared to OCI

These Qs are for a junior lateral
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Yale Law School's Reckoning over Brett Kavanaugh  
  by: MASH_Law   on: September 25, at 10:31:52 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
Students and faculty staged a sit-in Monday in protest against President Trump’s nomination of the conservative appellate court judge, a 1990 Yale law graduate, to the Supreme Court.

JACOB STERNDAVID YAFFE-BELLANY


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... gh/571225/
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: mike241   on: September 25, at 10:27:18 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
two questions: if you pass, you only get the Part A and Part B scores, right? There is no further breakdown of your score?
Also, is there any way to find out about percentiles?
thanks
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=248152

Re: Colorado bar  
  by: SavvyLaw   on: September 25, at 10:26:25 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
They asked me to update mine as well. It would be cruel. Yall, basically a week.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=297378

Re: Panel interview with the California AG's Office  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 10:24:00 am   in: Legal Employment
Again, it depends on what section and what city you're in. I had 4 different Cal AG interviews for 4 different positions in 2 cities. Got 2 different offers but ended up taking a fed gov job. One interview was straight to offer but the other 3 were not. Appreciate the information/response! If you could, could you elaborate a bit more on the following? (1) For the interviews that were not straight...
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Re: Nelson Mullins — tell me what you know!  
  by: gregfootball2001   on: September 25, at 10:20:21 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Yearly requirements are actually based on collections goals, so if you bill 8-9 hours a day and your clients don't pay, you're out of luck for those hours. If you don't meet your collections goals, you don't get a bonus, or they adjust accordingly.
What? An associate doesn't get credit for hours if the partner that assigned the work doesn't get their client to pay? That's crazy.
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Re: Junior concerned about hours  
  by: jkpolk   on: September 25, at 10:18:59 am   in: Legal Employment
You are probably also working too fast. When you're not under time pressure, print everything out, read redlines a second, third, fourth time, make sure you're billing for reading your e-mail, consider an additional precedent, etc.
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Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: nylon_law   on: September 25, at 10:16:31 am   in: What are my chances?
I suffered from debilitating migraines. Traditional Chinese Medicine helped me. It was so bad in undergrad and grad school that I cld not get out of bed and missed exams and classes. I am taking exam without accomodation but may need to if the results suck. I figure, why don’t you try without and see how it goes. If not good, then retake with accomodations. You need to find a way to destress and d...
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:51:58 am   in: Legal Employment
What about going through conflicts before any real offer? What about it? Do firms actually do this? It's happening to me right now lol I'm confused. Are you the OP? OP's clearly received (and accepted) an offer. If you're not the OP, where are you in the interview process? Have you had a site interview, or a phone interview, or any interview at all? Is this a small firm? Seems really strange that...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:48:15 am   in: Legal Employment
For those of you who were made an offer, who called you? Curious to know if everyone was called by the same person. If so, gives me a little hope calls will continue today
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Re: Military Law  
  by: mrosmith   on: September 25, at 9:41:11 am   in: Legal Employment
If there are any criminal, drug, mental health, credit, weight, etc. issues, what have you done to show that's not you anymore? If your interviewer likes you, they will try to explain these things away. Help them. If you got caught for underage drinking in college, maybe volunteer for some kind of designated driver program. Stuff like that. One thing specifically - do not be over your weight limi...
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Re: Law school admissions consulting... Opinions?  
  by: albanach   on: September 25, at 9:37:49 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi, everyone! So, I've been on the fence lately in regards to whether or not I should hire an admissions consulting company to aid with my applications. Just some background info on myself-- I'm a biology major with a 3.2 overall GPA, and while I can't really afford to hire a third-party consulting company, I'm desperate to boost my application. I've looked into Powerscore and 7sage for their con...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:31:31 am   in: Legal Employment
[*]has anyone heard anything today?
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Dipper   on: September 25, at 9:20:29 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
In the event you took BARBRI, I took the data from the 2015 spreadsheet an sorted it by BARBRI PT raw score: http://seperac.com/pdf/BARBRI%20PT%20Scores%20from%20TLS.pdf Of the 77 examinees who took BARBRI in July 2015 and reported their exact PT scores, 75 passed the exam, including all those with a 113 raw or higher. Thanks, Joe! Do you have enough data points to do Kaplan? Kaplan folks, please...
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:19:51 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Pre-oci: no offers out of 5 callbacks
OCI: 29 screeners, 5 callbacks, one offer.

Anybody with an offer have a worse ratio than me?
This is so similar to mine that people may think it's me


Only 1 pre-OCI cb and 20 screeners, but other than that same! Good to know more out there.
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 9:05:10 am   in: Legal Employment
Top 10 or 15% at MVP, 2 pre-OCI callbacks (no offers), 27ish screeners, 10 callbacks (cancelled 4), 5 offers.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: aka123   on: September 25, at 9:04:55 am   in: Legal Employment
Anyone going into the Army Jan class? I should have my letter of good standing in about a week and that’s the last part of paperwork that JARO needs. I’m assuming that I will be in the January class...but I have no confirmation from them on that. Are you already notified that you are in the January class? Can you send me a PM? Have either of you had access to ARMDEC Safe? I just got my certificat...
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Seperac Tutoring/Outlines  
  by: JDlaw17   on: September 25, at 8:45:49 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any thoughts on Seperac outlines or tutoring services? In J18, I failed the MS Bar Exam--my MBE was 126, MEE was 129.5, 1-MPT was 123.2 (did not finish). My four weakest subjects on MBE were K, Property, Criminal, and Torts. I scored POORLY in contracts--I really need someone to tutor me in this area. No offense, but my contracts professor was horrible in law school--difficult to understand and bo...
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Re: July 2018 Kaplan/Barbri Final MBE Scores vs. Actual Scaled MBE Score  
  by: Cop2lawyerNYC   on: September 25, at 8:31:28 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Barbri Mid-term: 145/200
Last set of NCBE exams: 88%; OPE 3 and 4: 80%
Barmax 1600+ questions 72%. NB: I started at 60% percent and by the end I was at 77-81%

Actual MBE: waiting anxiously in NY (I felt I dropped the ball on the MEE/MPT)

According to JoeSeperac's analysis of past Barbri scores I should easily pass, but I don't feel too confident about that
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Re: UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: Cop2lawyerNYC   on: September 25, at 8:26:16 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
NY also has a lot of foreign educated candidates (around the 30% mark, I believe) so that would negate the higher proportion of T14 grads taking the test. Instead of gaming the test I should have taken the exam (I didn't know at the time) in a UBE state that release results right away! Those who took the exam in Missouri not only got their results a few weeks ago but those who passed are getting s...
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Re: UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: pfunkera   on: September 25, at 7:55:27 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Don't look at pass rate, look at who you are competing against. I took the exam in WV because I live and work there, but with only one law school and a small state, the competition is just not the same as taking it in NY or similar state. The MBE portion doesn't matter where you take it, but the essay grading matters. I doubt my essay answers were graded along with HYS grads. Even though I concent...
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Re: 170 Going to 175+ in One Month  
  by: mountwhite   on: September 25, at 7:35:37 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Wondering about this as well
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18 days till Exam--170+ trying to break 175  
  by: mountwhite   on: September 25, at 7:32:38 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
As the title suggests, I am taking the October in fewer than three weeks (I'm not in the US). For the past few weeks, I have been consistently scoring in the low 170s range and broke into high 175+ a few times. However, I had been somewhat complacent because LG was usually my worst section and my raw score breakdowns indicated that as long as I improve my LG, I have a very good shot of scoring abo...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 7:29:50 am   in: Legal Employment
I'm a student, so sorry to not add anything helpful here, but am I really not going to be able to get 7 hours/night most nights? I understand when work happens there will be times I am in the office late/'all night', but outside of those situations...I was under the impression, including weekends, I should be able to get a full night of sleep something like 4-5 nights/week. Is that not the case?
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 7:24:46 am   in: Legal Employment
If you rage-quit, then they’ve won. They’ve gotten your time during some of the best years of your life, they don’t have to pay you your bonus, and you are trying to look for a new job without the benefit of your current job. Trust me it takes a LONG time to find a new position in this industry. I think you ought to schedule a vacation for as soon as you can. You do not even need to go anywhere. J...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 7:23:39 am   in: Legal Employment
It appears that in previous years, the calls went out on different days but did not always correspond to a particular class. But people were called after the "main day" of calling.
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Re: 3.89 GPA 161 + MBA  
  by: albanach   on: September 25, at 7:16:06 am   in: What are my chances?

blueskies11 wrote:Chances for UF / FSU or should I retake

Of course you should retake. You have a good GPA and should aim for an LSAT score that matches. It will open up access to the best schools in the country with scholarship dollars too.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Patrick Bateman   on: September 25, at 7:11:41 am   in: Legal Employment
For any AF selectees scheduled for the January class: do you know your base yet? If so, which is it? You won’t find out your base until you fully complete MEPs and get all of your other documentation in. I did not find out my base until a month prior to COT Thanks for the response. Were you able to get your CAC and/or uniform ahead of time? Also you may want to wait until you know your base prior...
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Re: Grad School Presitge?  
  by: albanach   on: September 25, at 6:53:51 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Grad school will have little to no impact, unless you perform poorly in which case it might be a red flag.

Bigger question is why do grad school if you want to be a lawyer?
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Harvard hasn't processed app fee?  
  by: ernietakeslsac   on: September 25, at 6:49:00 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I submitted my application to Harvard last week and tried to pay both the report and app fee via LSAC. LSAC clearly charged me for both seeing as they took $130 from my account. However, Harvard's status checker only indicates that they've received my application, claiming that they're still awaiting my fee. None of the other schools I submitted my app to have done this. Insights? Do I contact LSA...
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So many companies are breaching medical ethics nowadays  
  by: Thelawyerkid   on: September 25, at 5:00:24 am   in: Legal News/Law Firm Gossip
On the end of August 2018, a US federal court finalized a $245 million penalty against Pinnacle Ultimate metal-on-metal hip implants made by Johnson & Johnson and its affiliate DePuy Orthopaedics. The hip-implant devices were defective and it was alleged that the patients had serious injuries due to the implants. As far as I have heard, the company is not going for an appeal it seems. There ar...
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Grad School Presitge?  
  by: calmova17   on: September 25, at 1:14:22 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
The grad program I want to enroll in before law school isn’t very well-known, if at all. Does anyone think that not attending a prestigious grad program vs. attending one would affect an application? I feel like it’s an inane point, but curious as to what other’s opinions are on this one.
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Re: Nelson Mullins — tell me what you know!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 25, at 12:21:08 am   in: Legal Employment
Firm has a good reputation and should be in the AmLaw top 70 next year with its merger with Broad and Cassell. Firm is humane but you will work. Good people generally and the firm will keep you moving forward as long as you meet your goals. 1900 is the billable goal but 2100 is the overall hour requirement which includes 50 required pro bono hours. Yearly requirements are actually based on collect...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 11:46:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Two weeks at a time. At this salary, every paycheck feels life changing for me. I just always try and make it to that next pay day. I don’t have a specific goal but I just want to keep adding onto my money and net worth so I can make compound interest work in my favor and be happy I grounded it out in a high paying job years from now.
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: September 24, at 10:41:51 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Was wondering if there’s a spreadsheet to view from the last couple of years including this years that lays out the overages from the practice to the actual. I saw one for 2015 and 2016 but I must’ve missed 2017. I’ve now got the date of the release of my bar results which has made me more anxious and stressed than I’ve been since prior to the exam! I really somehow managed to not think about it ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 10:39:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone think they’ll be making calls tomorrow? If it’s just 50 it’s totally possible they all went out today.
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 10:29:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here, the person going through conflict check before offer is not me. Also, thanks for the responses
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: September 24, at 10:28:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
If you failed FL and want to know more about the scale, I can figure it out (and make a score calculator) if a few more failing FL examinees send me their score info:
https://seperac.com/scoreform-FL.php
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Re: UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 24, at 10:15:18 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I don't think the bar is hard enough to go to the effort of "gaming". That's not to say smart people don't fail, but I would just study a little more if you are concerned. In addition, out of the UBE states with pass rate data (which admittedly doesn't include all UBE states; IL, for example, won't be administering its first UBE until July 2019), NY is by far the largest legal market (a...
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Re: MA USMC Vet applying dreaming of schools in DC  
  by: albanach   on: September 24, at 10:08:40 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
I think you already know the answer here. You want GT and to get there you really want to boost both the GPA and the LSAT.


I think you ideally want that GPA to be over 3.5 and an LSAT closer to 170.
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 24, at 10:05:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
What about going through conflicts before any real offer? What about it? Do firms actually do this? It's happening to me right now lol I'm confused. Are you the OP? OP's clearly received (and accepted) an offer. If you're not the OP, where are you in the interview process? Have you had a site interview, or a phone interview, or any interview at all? Is this a small firm? Seems really strange that...
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:53:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
1 callback ----> offer. Bottom 25% at t30. Phew.
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:36:30 pm   in: Legal Employment

QContinuum wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What about going through conflicts before any real offer?

What about it? Do firms actually do this?

It's happening to me right now lol
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Re: MA USMC Vet applying dreaming of schools in DC  
  by: burner   on: September 24, at 9:32:38 pm   in: Under Represented Law Student Forum
What year of undergrad are you currently in? Also, will you still have GI Bill eligibility to use for law school? Also, did you go to college before the military (like community college)? I only ask because LSAC will compute all college courses attended for your LSAC GPA, not just your undergraduate school.
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Re: Anyone have inside knowledge on Big 4 compensation?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:21:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'd like to add my two cents. Big4 M&A here (non-NYC). My group (60% JD/40% CPA) does very sophisticated work (lots of opinions and structuring projects to go around) but also has a great culture. I will admit that my group is probably better than most in terms of culture/type of work. You are (for the most part) expected to take your vacation days.Work life balance is encouraged. Pay is fine,...
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Re: Denver?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:16:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bump
From what I know, offers out at - Wilmer, Hogan, A&P, BHFS, Polsinelli, Gibson.

I know it's hella late in sept but has anyone heard about Faegre or DGS? Could it be that they haven't sent out offers yet or are just terrible at getting no's out? Do people ever get ghosted from callbacks?
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Re: Anyone have inside knowledge on Big 4 compensation?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:13:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone know what JD-only comp is like for the Big 4 in Texas? Just curious. Also curious about this as someone who is JD-only and currently making 115-120 in NY (been at firm 2 years) but looking to relocate to TX. Honestly in the LinkedIn research I have done, seems like the Houston Big 4 firms hire a lot fewer attorneys than in NY. Expect between $72,000 - $77,000 in Houston/Dallas with no...
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Re: UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: Findedeux   on: September 24, at 9:13:17 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I don't think the bar is hard enough to go to the effort of "gaming".

That's not to say smart people don't fail, but I would just study a little more if you are concerned.
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Re: Withers Worldwide?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:56:35 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone has update about offer?

Nothing yet...

Any knowledge about how/when they might ding people

I'm getting anxious... I have another offer from a different firm but I really want Withers. Any news?
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Re: Do Firms Tell You Before Callinf Reference  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:52:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Do firms let you know that they will be calling your references before they do so? Just wondering because I assume that they would’ve called them before making an offer, but now found out that it’s after during the conflict check process. So don’t know if I should bother them and let them know someone will be calling (especially since I already thanked them when I got the offer). Thanks IME not a...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: okaygo   on: September 24, at 8:42:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’m a first year in litigation coasting to an about 2,000 year at NYC V20. My secret? Say no.
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 24, at 8:26:53 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:What about going through conflicts before any real offer?

What about it? Do firms actually do this?
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:22:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
What about going through conflicts before any real offer?
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Re: Do Firms Tell You Before Callinf Reference  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 24, at 8:19:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
Do firms let you know that they will be calling your references before they do so? Just wondering because I assume that they would’ve called them before making an offer, but now found out that it’s after during the conflict check process. So don’t know if I should bother them and let them know someone will be calling (especially since I already thanked them when I got the offer). Thanks IME not a...
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 24, at 8:16:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
frankly you should be waiting to tell your firm until after you clear conflicts anyway, so it shouldn't be an issue. Chiming in to emphasize the above. Don't tell your firm until you've cleared conflicts! While unlikely, there have been a few cases of offers getting pulled due to a serious conflict issue. So the lack of a formal offer letter at this point is frankly something I wouldn't be worrie...
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Re: Does Kirkland’s open market system allow associates to work in distinct practice groups?  
  by: QContinuum   on: September 24, at 8:12:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
I never summered so i really dont know what open market system means... im a first year associate here and got assigned to a particular matter, and this matter is not giving me enough hours...im filling my time by pro bono and stuff but how do i get myself on some billable matters? I understand that the "open market system" is a metaphor, it's based on reputation and relationship with s...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:08:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
Taking weekends off as much as you can, working out 3 to 4 times a week, taking real vacations, and noting down an inventory of how many hours per week you have for fun and devote to relationships. Sometimes we under estimate our free time. Also, if possible, make sure to sleep 7 hours daily. You feel the burdens of big law more when you are tired. In biglaw, you cannot take weekends off in most ...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Backload   on: September 24, at 7:59:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
For any AF selectees scheduled for the January class: do you know your base yet? If so, which is it? You won’t find out your base until you fully complete MEPs and get all of your other documentation in. I did not find out my base until a month prior to COT Thanks for the response. Were you able to get your CAC and/or uniform ahead of time? Also you may want to wait until you know your base prior...
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Re: Panel interview with the California AG's Office  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 7:52:01 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Highjacking.....what are/were your stats?

Right below median at T-14 school

Are you a 3L?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 7:49:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Question for those of you who interviewed: Has anyone received an offer? Do you know when we can expect to hear back? Please let me know! thanks!
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 7:36:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
80 people in the fiscal year.

50 during this round of hiring. Presumably there will be another job posting in the next few months for a March-April start date
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 7:36:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
What practice group are you and which market? I'm at a firm that's widely called a "sweatshop," and I could consistently get 7+ hours of sleep ( if it weren't for competing personal obligations, like family, etc. ). I also commute 1.5 hours+ total and exercise 4-5 times a week. On track to billing 2300 this year. ETA: I do cap markets in a major non-NYC market. There are definitely days...
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3.89 GPA 161 + MBA  
  by: blueskies11   on: September 24, at 7:27:18 pm   in: What are my chances?
Chances for UF / FSU or should I retake
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 7:19:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Taking weekends off as much as you can, working out 3 to 4 times a week, taking real vacations, and noting down an inventory of how many hours per week you have for fun and devote to relationships. Sometimes we under estimate our free time. Also, if possible, make sure to sleep 7 hours daily. You feel the burdens of big law more when you are tired. In biglaw, you cannot take weekends off in most ...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 7:04:18 pm   in: Legal Employment
Taking weekends off as much as you can, working out 3 to 4 times a week, taking real vacations, and noting down an inventory of how many hours per week you have for fun and devote to relationships. Sometimes we under estimate our free time. Also, if possible, make sure to sleep 7 hours daily. You feel the burdens of big law more when you are tired. In biglaw, you cannot take weekends off in most ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 7:02:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
50 is not the number I was told. Best of luck everyone.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 6:56:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Not 80. 50 people.
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Re: UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: perplixityparanoia   on: September 24, at 6:54:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Go with Missouri.
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Re: UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: max_p   on: September 24, at 6:50:46 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I wouldn't say I "shopped" given that my firm told me which state to take, but I've been hoping that my state (NJ) is easier than others. I would imagine that a 266 in NJ is easier to get than the same score in New York or PA (assuming all the "best" lawyers wind up in NYC or Philly rather than in the Jersey burbs). NJ also has nowhere near the caliber of law schools as nearby ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 6:49:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
The chosen 3!...If they’re hiring around 80 people, there’s no way they called everyone in one day. Let’s all wait a week before going full on panic mode.
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UBE Shopping: Help Me Game the UBE and Pick the Best Jurisdiction  
  by: GoldenPuppy   on: September 24, at 6:42:28 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Summary A UBE score in one jurisdiction is not the same as getting the same score in another jurisdictions. For example, a 270 in State A might be easier to get than a 270 in State B, since you're graded against other examinees in your own state (and NOT nationwide). Background Reading Suzanne Darrow Kleinhaus, UBE-Shopping: An Unintended Consequence of Portability? https://digitalcommons.tourola...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Patrick Bateman   on: September 24, at 6:33:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
Two mulligans: Boots - you are not limited to the boots they sell at Military Clothing. You can often get better ones at a better price if you shop around online. I woke the Nike SFB (Gen 1) for years and thought it was very comfortable. It not suitable for deployment or anything beyond pushing around paper in an garrison environment but for us staff types, it is great. https://uspatriottactical.c...
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Re: Nelson Mullins — tell me what you know!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 6:25:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=235142

This discussion looks pretty relevant to your question.
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Re: Nelson Mullins — tell me what you know!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 6:11:08 pm   in: Legal Employment
I believe the hour requirement is 1900 so that is pretty decent, but it isn't worth it if you comparing Nelson Mullins vs. a more traditional V100 where the hour requirement might be 2000 but you get an actually good bonus. Nelson will not pay very big bonuses from what I hear (like 5-10k). Most offices are in smaller, secondary markets, though (except for ATL & Boston I guess since they just ...
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Re: Panel interview with the California AG's Office  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 6:01:40 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Highjacking.....what are/were your stats?

Right below median at T-14 school
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Patrick Bateman   on: September 24, at 5:48:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
For any AF selectees scheduled for the January class: do you know your base yet? If so, which is it? You won’t find out your base until you fully complete MEPs and get all of your other documentation in. I did not find out my base until a month prior to COT Thanks for the response. Were you able to get your CAC and/or uniform ahead of time? You can purchase uniforms ahead of COT, and I would advi...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 5:46:57 pm   in: Legal Employment

annon1234 wrote:Anyone going into the Army Jan class?
Hi- I submitted all of my required documents by end of June and have not heard back on anything, my understanding is I am waiting on HRC to medically qualify me but I have not heard on what class I am assigned. When did you find out your class? I originally assumed I would be October class.
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Re: Colorado Results Tomorrow!!!!  
  by: SavvyLaw   on: September 24, at 5:36:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Found this post because I’m not cleared yet and I started thinking it was because I failed so they didn’t check mine. Glad to see others who were cleared after.
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Law school admissions consulting... Opinions?  
  by: knjoiner12   on: September 24, at 5:22:16 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi, everyone! So, I've been on the fence lately in regards to whether or not I should hire an admissions consulting company to aid with my applications. Just some background info on myself-- I'm a biology major with a 3.2 overall GPA, and while I can't really afford to hire a third-party consulting company, I'm desperate to boost my application. I've looked into Powerscore and 7sage for their cons...
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Re: Has anyone taken the LSAT with accommodations? Insight?  
  by: mjb77   on: September 24, at 5:08:18 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
wow thats awesome. Thank you for the insight
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170 Going to 175+ in One Month  
  by: puppytiff   on: September 24, at 5:07:06 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi, For all those who score in high 170s, is there a time when you feel you master all the hard questions, yet still get some simple ones wrong? Did you ever want to bang your head when you get every questions right during the blind review, yet still miss a couple during the timed practice? It's happening to me for some time now. I've been stuck at 170s with the break down of LG-1,RC-4,LR-5. I've ...
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Re: Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: gregfootball2001   on: September 24, at 5:01:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
If you don't get it in a day or two, you can definitely inquire, but yes, it's normal. When I lateraled, I accepted the offer verbally and began conflicts right away (they were busy and wanted to try and get me in). The guy who had to sign the letter was out of the country, so it took a couple of days. You may want to consider waiting to tell your firm until you get the offer letter, but frankly y...
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Re: My Personal Statement as of now, need critiques please  
  by: kellyjohnson   on: September 24, at 4:57:53 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
It's disorganized. It goes from you losing your hearing, to something about working at the DA, to the loss of your best friend. These are all separate ideas and its not clear how or why you transition from one to the other. You talk a lot about losing your hearing, but then there is only one throw-away sentence about how that impacted you at the very end of the essay (and its combined with an odd ...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: smokeylarue   on: September 24, at 4:51:07 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Step 1 - Look at student loan balance
Step 2 - Look at bank account
Step 3 - go back to work and continue hating life

TITCR
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Backload   on: September 24, at 4:45:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
For any AF selectees scheduled for the January class: do you know your base yet? If so, which is it? You won’t find out your base until you fully complete MEPs and get all of your other documentation in. I did not find out my base until a month prior to COT Thanks for the response. Were you able to get your CAC and/or uniform ahead of time? You can purchase uniforms ahead of COT, and I would advi...
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Re: July 2018 Kaplan/Barbri Final MBE Scores vs. Actual Scaled MBE Score  
  by: Nashvillelaw21   on: September 24, at 4:44:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Barbri Midterm MBE: 105
Actual MBE: 151

I have no grand secret. I think when I took the midterm, I was behind and had not done enough MBE questions yet for it to be an accurate representation of how I would do. But I was very worried when I left the exam and I was very surprised my score was as high as it was.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Labrador911   on: September 24, at 4:42:27 pm   in: Legal Employment

Backload wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:For any AF selectees scheduled for the January class: do you know your base yet? If so, which is it?

You won’t find out your base until you fully complete MEPs and get all of your other documentation in. I did not find out my base until a month prior to COT

Thanks for the response. Were you able to get your CAC and/or uniform ahead of time?
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Houstonttt   on: September 24, at 4:33:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thanks I guess I had a typo, I got 94 on mid as well
This gave me alot of hope:.
So congratulations for passing the bar
quote="maroon175"]

fl0rine3 wrote:Barbri

Mid: 94/200
Final: 55/100

Scaled MBE: 140


wow! this gives me hope![/quote]
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Re: 3.5/173 - thoughts welcome!  
  by: albanach   on: September 24, at 4:29:26 pm   in: What are my chances?
Hi All, I'm wondering what schools are sensible to target when applying to law schools this cycle. I have a 173 LSAT, and a 3.5 GPA, as well as 3 years work experience (in Finance, nothing unique). I believe my recs will be fall into the 'Normal' category. Am I setting myself up for failure by focusing on the T-14 excluding HYS? Thanks! Unsure if this is a humblebrag, but I'll give you the benefi...
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: ronaldo09   on: September 24, at 4:08:33 pm   in: Legal Employment
Taking weekends off as much as you can, working out 3 to 4 times a week, taking real vacations, and noting down an inventory of how many hours per week you have for fun and devote to relationships. Sometimes we under estimate our free time. Also, if possible, make sure to sleep 7 hours daily. You feel the burdens of big law more when you are tired.
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 4:01:23 pm   in: Legal Employment

theswisswereright wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day in Dallas is looking for 3Ls for its transactional group.

Source? I don’t see a posting on their site.

Career Services at my school sent an email to 3Ls.
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Do Firms Tell You Before Callinf Reference  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 4:01:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
Do firms let you know that they will be calling your references before they do so? Just wondering because I assume that they would’ve called them before making an offer, but now found out that it’s after during the conflict check process. So don’t know if I should bother them and let them know someone will be calling (especially since I already thanked them when I got the offer). Thanks
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Re: SRZ or Kirkland (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:57:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does your answer differ at all given that I’m not applying for an SA? I know for an SA, it’s a no brainer. But I’m wondering if the answer changes given that I’m a mid-level.

Not sure what happens to associates who don’t make nonequity partner after year 6 at Kirkland, for example. Am I just pushing paper for two to three years before being shown the door?
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Re: July 2018 Kaplan/Barbri Final MBE Scores vs. Actual Scaled MBE Score  
  by: ast52017   on: September 24, at 3:53:44 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
BarBri Midterm MBE: 129
Actual MBE: 151
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Re: DOT Honors Hiring for 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:53:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
Still no news. I looked at the thread from last year, and it looks like the callbacks were sent out in a few waves, ending roughly by late September/ early October.

So I guess not all hope is lost yet?
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: dasq5511   on: September 24, at 3:51:30 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students

inthestacks07 wrote:Looking to discuss OCI Callback/Offer ratios with y'all. Current 2L who secured a BigLaw SA. However, it was my only offer out of 9 callbacks, so I'm feeling quite undeserving. Anyone else in the same position?

Don't come here just because everyone on Reddit downvoted you: https://www.reddit.com/r/LawSchool/comm ... fer_ratio/
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Normal for Doing Conflict Check Before Getting Offer Letter?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:46:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hi TLS, I'm a bit confused as to the offer process for BigLaw. I accepted verbally, received a conflict check document, and got an email telling me to complete the check (this email states something along the line of a conflict check is a prerequisite indicated in your offer letter - which I havent received?). Should I be asking for this offer letter?
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Re: SRZ or Kirkland (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:46:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
No offense to Schulte associates, but this isn’t a real choice. Kirkland is the obvious answer. I’m not saying Kirkland doesn’t have flaws, but it’s in a different league.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:42:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
They only hired three people this time around.
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: eastcoast_iub   on: September 24, at 3:39:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would also add Availability Ability to stay calm in pressured and difficult situations Showing and keeping enthusiasm Active listener Good judgment Ability to understand what is important and/or urgent and what is not Ability to verbally convey complex problems in simple terms Have common sense Ability to relate and get along with different and sometimes difficult personalities Self-awareness E...
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: scard   on: September 24, at 3:31:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Nightcrawler wrote:
scard wrote:Haven’t heard anything yet

Uhm. I wonder if they will just ghost you until the results or tell you that it’s just too early.

Well if I don’t see anything this week I’m sure it’s safe to assume I’ll be ghosted
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: maroon175   on: September 24, at 3:30:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

fl0rine3 wrote:Barbri

Mid: 94/200
Final: 55/100

Scaled MBE: 140


wow! this gives me hope!
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:26:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
Step 1 - Look at student loan balance
Step 2 - Look at bank account
Step 3 - go back to work and continue hating life
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3.5/173 - thoughts welcome!  
  by: goblue8412   on: September 24, at 3:22:03 pm   in: What are my chances?
Hi All,

I'm wondering what schools are sensible to target when applying to law schools this cycle. I have a 173 LSAT, and a 3.5 GPA, as well as 3 years work experience (in Finance, nothing unique). I believe my recs will be fall into the 'Normal' category.
Am I setting myself up for failure by focusing on the T-14 excluding HYS?

Thanks!
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:19:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
So...this is late September... interview offers have to come out this week right?
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: TheFutureElleWoods   on: September 24, at 3:17:09 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any 3L movements? CBs, offers, openings??

I got an offer from K&E NYC.

What practice area of K&E did you get an offer from? (Litigation/Real Estate Restructuring etc.) and when did you apply?
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Re: How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:12:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
By reminding myself of what I find worthwhile about the job and how it plays into my long-term goals. YMMV, but the first can be anything from: interest in subject matter; development as a lawyer (more true as you get more senior in biglaw and stop doing grunt work); appreciation for peers or senior mentors; good client relationships; good resources; salary; etc. The second can be goals in biglaw ...
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Re: 1st of 3 interviews w/ a DA office - what to expect?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:09:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Why prosecutor Why not public defender Why not AUSA Why this community/ties Brady hypotheticals What do you think would be the hardest part of being a prosecutor Long-term goals as a prosecutor (e.g., subject matter) (If your background seems fancy) Ability to relate to and communicate with Joe and Jane Juror (If your background seems biglaw) Will you miss [resources; smaller volume of cases; fanc...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:06:06 pm   in: Legal Employment
Who else have received calls besides the three people who have received a call back?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 3:05:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
They laughed when I left the room as well - I assumed that it was my charming wit
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 2:59:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
I haven't lost faith! From previous years, it looks like they call on different days for different classes. Today was probably for October.
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Re: Michigan OCI Callbacks & Offers 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 2:56:55 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Are Foley and Jones Day the hardest Detroit firms to get in to?

It is significantly harder to get an SA offer at Jones Day. JD > Foley > Honigman
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: September 24, at 2:55:35 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

scard wrote:Haven’t heard anything yet

Uhm. I wonder if they will just ghost you until the results or tell you that it’s just too early.
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Nelson Mullins — tell me what you know!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 2:53:03 pm   in: Legal Employment
Overall culture? Upward mobility? Weekend work? I’m considering an offer but don’t want to start my career off on the wrong foot when I know I’m looking for somewhere humane (for biglaw). It's an AmLaw 100 firm but I can't find much information. Oh and I’m doing litigation.
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Re: Looking for specific info on the work clerks are doing  
  by: SFSpartan   on: September 24, at 2:52:51 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I wish you the best of luck but doubt you are going to get anything specific. Sample size of clerks is too small, and the more specific information a clerk gives, the easier it will be for someone to trace said information back to them. Good luck!
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Re: My Personal Statement as of now, need critiques please  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 2:51:05 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Any comments? Would be much appreciated
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: UVA2B   on: September 24, at 2:30:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
It doesn’t matter unless the ratio does not exist (assuming the ratio is treated like a fraction).
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: Jchance   on: September 24, at 2:28:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
I remember reading The Curmudgeon's Guide to Practicing Law by Mark Herrmann and thought it was good and relevant to this topic.
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Re: UK 2:1 GPA conversion  
  by: iar   on: September 24, at 2:27:02 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hey Ssar - this is a good question. I am yet to have mine evaluated, but it seems as though you should come out as "above average". The majority of UK students seem to have their degrees classified in a fairly predictable way (2:2 is avg, 2:1 is above avg, 1:1 is superior). However, you're right that they do count first year grades,=. (I agree that this is unfair. There's a reason they d...
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Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: Thedude2796   on: September 24, at 2:19:46 pm   in: What are my chances?
Oh well Don't be disheartened. There are still decent schools that will give you a good scholarship. If your heart is set on the T-14, it's doable. You just need an LSAT boost. Delay a year if necessary and it should be achievable. Plenty of folk on here, myself included, have gone from numbers like yours into the 170s. Not really an option. Headaches are still a big problem. During my LSAT pract...
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How to Not Rage Quit  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 2:17:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
It's one of the days where I just feel like screaming fuck it and leaving my biglaw firm. I've walked myself back from the ledge before because I knew I was more junior and it would be harder to find something else. How do you talk yourself down in these moments? I absolutely hate that this job requires you to be available all day every day and no one respects you as an individual with personal ne...
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Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: albanach   on: September 24, at 2:08:48 pm   in: What are my chances?
Oh well Don't be disheartened. There are still decent schools that will give you a good scholarship. If your heart is set on the T-14, it's doable. You just need an LSAT boost. Delay a year if necessary and it should be achievable. Plenty of folk on here, myself included, have gone from numbers like yours into the 170s. Not really an option. Headaches are still a big problem. During my LSAT pract...
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Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: Thedude2796   on: September 24, at 2:05:41 pm   in: What are my chances?
Oh well Don't be disheartened. There are still decent schools that will give you a good scholarship. If your heart is set on the T-14, it's doable. You just need an LSAT boost. Delay a year if necessary and it should be achievable. Plenty of folk on here, myself included, have gone from numbers like yours into the 170s. Not really an option. Headaches are still a big problem. During my LSAT pract...
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Re: WUSTL Class of 2022 Thread  
  by: SirAlexFerguson   on: September 24, at 1:51:50 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

kamik01 wrote:Got my interview scheduled. Will update on how it goes.

when did you apply and how many days did it take for them to reach out to you after you submitted?
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Re: Florida big law take home salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:51:36 pm   in: Legal Employment
Compared this with my friend (after recent raises). Per paycheck, he takes home $1000 more than me (his base is $280k, mine is $185k). So, for the year, he takes home around $24k more before bonus. If he makes market bonus, he probably takes home $30-40k more than me. So, essentially, the a majority of the difference covers the higher cost of rent (my 1 bedroom in Miami is $2100, his is $3900 in ...
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Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: albanach   on: September 24, at 1:49:55 pm   in: What are my chances?

Thedude2796 wrote:Oh well

Don't be disheartened. There are still decent schools that will give you a good scholarship. If your heart is set on the T-14, it's doable. You just need an LSAT boost. Delay a year if necessary and it should be achievable. Plenty of folk on here, myself included, have gone from numbers like yours into the 170s.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:45:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
It is a good job - if you can get it. Decent hours. Easy work. Decent pay (eventually). So it is worth mourning that loss.

Keep applying if you really want it - they post 1-2x a year.

And please don't take it personally if you did not get it. Unless you absolutely blew it, their hiring selections make absolutely no sense.
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Re: Florida big law take home salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:40:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Compared this with my friend (after recent raises). Per paycheck, he takes home $1000 more than me (his base is $280k, mine is $185k). So, for the year, he takes home around $24k more before bonus. If he makes market bonus, he probably takes home $30-40k more than me. So, essentially, the a majority of the difference covers the higher cost of rent (my 1 bedroom in Miami is $2100, his is $3900 in ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: barprepforca   on: September 24, at 1:40:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
Oh well... I thought my interview went fine, but as I left the whole group of them laughed after they shut the door behind me, and I got a sinking feeling at that point that it probably was not meant to be. Thanks for updating and congrats to those who have soft offers in their pockets.
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Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: Thedude2796   on: September 24, at 1:38:47 pm   in: What are my chances?
3.28, 165 half-MA URM. I have internship experience with a lobbyist, volunteer experience with low income schools and am currently working as a legal assistant at a law firm. My PS is about how I had a horrible mindset toward studying until I began boxing and realized that study was important to success and how i applied that principle to my academics and passions afterwards. My diversity stateme...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:32:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
I meant Oct. I would assume those calls go out first.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:30:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
I assumed they are calling for both classes today. Have they split up days for the calls by class previously?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:29:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
I want to puke.

Highly doubt they are making calls for January today. The October class starts in a month and a couple days, they'll probably take care of that before worrying about January.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:28:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
I’m not acquainted with this process all that much but do the call backs occur in one bundle or over a period of time?

Congrats to those who recieved call backs. Very proud of all of you.
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Re: Does Kirkland’s open market system allow associates to work in distinct practice groups?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:24:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
not Op and sorry for hijack this thred: I never summered so i really dont know what open market system means... im a first year associate here and got assigned to a particular matter, and this matter is not giving me enough hours...im filling my time by pro bono and stuff but how do i get myself on some billable matters? I understand that the "open market system" is a metaphor, it's base...
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Re: Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: albanach   on: September 24, at 1:22:35 pm   in: What are my chances?
3.28, 165 half-MA URM. I have internship experience with a lobbyist, volunteer experience with low income schools and am currently working as a legal assistant at a law firm. My PS is about how I had a horrible mindset toward studying until I began boxing and realized that study was important to success and how i applied that principle to my academics and passions afterwards. My diversity stateme...
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SRZ or Kirkland (NY)?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:21:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Corporate lateral. I know Kirkland is ranked higher in almost every metric, but does anyone have any information about the office atmosphere of either?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:20:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Do you think calls for both Oct and January happened today?
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:18:37 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Pre-oci: no offers out of 5 callbacks
OCI: 29 screeners, 5 callbacks, one offer.

Anybody with an offer have a worse ratio than me?
This is so similar to mine that people may think it's me
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:18:09 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I have not heard anything. My guess is that all calls for Jan class will occur today. Since there are 25 calls, that probably will take about a day. Congrats to those who were hired.


Why Jan? Wouldn't they do Oct class first?
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Re: Florida big law take home salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:16:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Compared this with my friend (after recent raises). Per paycheck, he takes home $1000 more than me (his base is $280k, mine is $185k). So, for the year, he takes home around $24k more before bonus. If he makes market bonus, he probably takes home $30-40k more than me. So, essentially, the a majority of the difference covers the higher cost of rent (my 1 bedroom in Miami is $2100, his is $3900 in ...
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Re: WUSTL Class of 2022 Thread  
  by: kamik01   on: September 24, at 1:14:15 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Got my interview scheduled. Will update on how it goes.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=297838

Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: albanach   on: September 24, at 1:12:45 pm   in: What are my chances?
I definitely wont be attending in the US unless its T14 haha. Some schools are much more likely to accept a nonresident: School Class size Nonresident %age NR Cornell 199 32 16.1 Harvard 560 80 14.3 Nowestern 228 24 10.5 Columbia 389 39 10.0 NYU 429 42 9.8 Yale 205 20 9.8 GTown 602 58 9.6 Duke 217 20 9.2 Penn 244 21 8.6 Michigan 320 13 4.1 Berkeley 305 11 3.6 Stanford 180 4 2.2 Chicago 189 3 1.6 ...
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 1:02:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
Pre-oci: no offers out of 5 callbacks
OCI: 29 screeners, 5 callbacks, one offer.

Anybody with an offer have a worse ratio than me?
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: fl0rine3   on: September 24, at 12:52:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Barbri

Mid: 94/200
Final: 55/100

Scaled MBE: 140
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:43:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
30+ screeners, 3 callbacks, 1 offer. In the top couple of people at a school ranked 25-40, LR, interviewed exclusively in a competitive market outside my school's region. Apparently terrible interviewing skills, very happy to have an offer.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:39:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm glad we have this forum to at least get word we didn't get the job.
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: ronaldo09   on: September 24, at 12:36:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would also add Availability Ability to stay calm in pressured and difficult situations Showing and keeping enthusiasm Active listener Good judgment Ability to understand what is important and/or urgent and what is not Ability to verbally convey complex problems in simple terms Have common sense Ability to relate and get along with different and sometimes difficult personalities Self-awareness Ef...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:34:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
I have not heard anything. My guess is that all calls for Jan class will occur today. Since there are 25 calls, that probably will take about a day. Congrats to those who were hired.
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Re: Panel interview with the California AG's Office  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:26:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
So I have an interview late next week for a vacant DAG position with one of the sections I applied to. According to the confirmation email, there will be an interview with section supervisors, an informal interview with two DAGs, and finally a short written exercise. In total, it's supposed to run for 1.5-2 hours. I don't know if this is a good sign or not, but when I got the phone call, they sou...
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Re: Florida big law take home salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:22:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP - It seems almost a wash except you would be able to buy property in Miami instead of renting. Seems to me the difference isn't that big.
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Re: New York City Law Department OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:17:00 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Looking to revive this thread. I have a callback tomorrow. Anyone else going though this process?

Yeah I had a callback last week. Not sure how it went though. They told me I won't hear anything for 4-6 weeks.

Are you a 2L or 3L?

I'm a 3L
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Re: Why does everyone dump on Latham?  
  by: HamlinMcgill   on: September 24, at 12:15:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
This thread is so dumb. Latham is a very well-respected law firm. Other firms mentioned in this thread are also very well-respected. They pretty much all pay the same and do similar work. Analyzing minute differences in subjective "prestige" is not a great use of time. Making decisions based on the opinions of anonymous people on a law school discussion board is not going to lead to a ha...
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Re: Michigan OCI Callbacks & Offers 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:07:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Are Foley and Jones Day the hardest Detroit firms to get in to?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 11:56:54 am   in: Legal Employment
I just got a call for permission to check references as well. They're still calling! Good luck!

I wasn’t given a start date, so maybe that means January?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 11:56:39 am   in: Legal Employment
I just got one! As in the past, it's a soft offer pending your references checking out. They give you the start date and told me that if everything checks out fast enough, your official offer should be sent by the end of the week.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 11:50:40 am   in: Legal Employment
anyone else hear back?
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Re: The Vale of Tears (3L Job Hunting) (No advice for 0/1/2Ls)  
  by: theswisswereright   on: September 24, at 11:46:38 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Jones Day in Dallas is looking for 3Ls for its transactional group.

Source? I don’t see a posting on their site.
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Re: Michigan OCI Callbacks & Offers 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 11:38:41 am   in: Legal Employment
Any Honigman offers?
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 11:32:55 am   in: Legal Employment
Top third at a T1. 18 screeners, 7 cbs, 4 offers but cancelled/withdrew from a couple cbs after accepting an offer. My biggest takeaway was how much interviewing skills matter. The importance of grades goes without saying, but once you get to the screener, forget about grades and focus on presenting yourself. I was initially an alternate at the firm I accepted an offer from, so don't count yoursel...
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Do I have any chance of being admitted to T-14  
  by: Thedude2796   on: September 24, at 11:22:08 am   in: What are my chances?
3.28, 165 half-MA URM. I have internship experience with a lobbyist, volunteer experience with low income schools and am currently working as a legal assistant at a law firm. My PS is about how I had a horrible mindset toward studying until I began boxing and realized that study was important to success and how i applied that principle to my academics and passions afterwards. My diversity statemen...
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: scard   on: September 24, at 11:10:56 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Haven’t heard anything yet
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Re: advice on references/recommenders for DA applicaitons  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 11:03:00 am   in: Legal Employment
Honest question that is not meant to be snarky:

What do you think professors from undergrad or grad school can say that law school professors/your 1L/2L summer job bosses can’t say?
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Do I have any chance at the T-14?  
  by: Thedude2796   on: September 24, at 11:00:20 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
3.28, 165 half-MA URM. I have internship experience with a lobbyist, volunteer experience with low income schools and am currently working as a legal assistant at a law firm. My PS is about how I had a horrible mindset toward studying until I began boxing and realized that study was important to success and how i applied that principle to my academics and passions afterwards. My diversity statemen...
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Re: Florida big law take home salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 10:59:52 am   in: Legal Employment
Compared this with my friend (after recent raises). Per paycheck, he takes home $1000 more than me (his base is $280k, mine is $185k). So, for the year, he takes home around $24k more before bonus. If he makes market bonus, he probably takes home $30-40k more than me. So, essentially, the a majority of the difference covers the higher cost of rent (my 1 bedroom in Miami is $2100, his is $3900 in ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 10:38:36 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Reference check! Fuckkkkkkkkkk yesssssss

awesome! did they contact you via phone or email?
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advice on references/recommenders for DA applicaitons  
  by: nasra234   on: September 24, at 10:24:22 am   in: Legal Employment
To everyone who's gone through the process of applying/interviewing for prosecution jobs straight out of law school: when asked to provide references or recommendation letters, is it ok to use references or recommendation letters from professors you've had before law school, say, from your undergraduate or graduate school?
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 10:19:13 am   in: Legal Employment
Top 1/4 officially but closer to Top 10% at BC/BU/Fordham/GW/Notre Dame. 5 years prior WE, secondary journal.

1 offer from 8 CBs.
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 10:17:27 am   in: Legal Employment
8 offers w/ 12 callbacks on 16 screeners.

Networking was the key. Probably around top 30-40% at DMVP. Strong interviewer. No journal. No moot court.
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: September 24, at 10:13:05 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Well I spent the $25 on hopes that a score advisory is different then a score request in terms of waiting for results to be released. I’m expecting it not to be and their refusal to give me a score advisory is consistent with what they are trying to say online. It’d be nice to think they are not releasing scores by giving a score advisory for states that already have their results released. The p...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: LaFatoute   on: September 24, at 10:09:41 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Reference check! Fuckkkkkkkkkk yesssssss


Sweeet. Did they tell you/inquired which class you are being considered?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 10:09:25 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Reference check! Fuckkkkkkkkkk yesssssss

Congrats! And thanks for letting us know... Sounds like the waiting will be over soon!
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Re: Florida big law take home salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:55:16 am   in: Legal Employment
Compared this with my friend (after recent raises). Per paycheck, he takes home $1000 more than me (his base is $280k, mine is $185k). So, for the year, he takes home around $24k more before bonus. If he makes market bonus, he probably takes home $30-40k more than me. So, essentially, the a majority of the difference covers the higher cost of rent (my 1 bedroom in Miami is $2100, his is $3900 in m...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:49:30 am   in: Legal Employment
Reference check! Fuckkkkkkkkkk yesssssss
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:41:26 am   in: Legal Employment
Got offers from 1/2 my CBs. UT/UCLA/Vandy, no LR, around top 15%
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Re: New York City Law Department OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:36:20 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Looking to revive this thread. I have a callback tomorrow. Anyone else going though this process?

Yeah I had a callback last week. Not sure how it went though. They told me I won't hear anything for 4-6 weeks.

Are you a 2L or 3L?
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:27:41 am   in: Legal Employment
26 screeners, 14 CBs, 6 offers here. Stats: T14, LR, unsure of exact class rank but well above-median GPA.

ETA: Since others are discussing it, probably an average or below average interviewer & KJD with an otherwise unimpressive resume. Targeted DC.
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Florida big law take home salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 9:02:20 am   in: Legal Employment
Just wondering if anyone could provide some insight as to their take home salary as a midlevel in Fl. I understand that salaries are pretty compressed at higher levels so I would like to understand how much money I would be leaving on the table considering COL adjustments. Pretty sure I could work this out but thought real examples would be better/easiest. Thanks.
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: uhwrestler   on: September 24, at 8:49:32 am   in: Legal Employment
bottom 1/3 at lower t14 had 5 callbacks and 1 offer
i am a good interviewer and have a pretty strong above average resume outside of 1l grades
a lot of ppl around median at my t14 school struck out i am wondering if biglaw hiring is especially down this year?
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:47:28 am   in: Legal Employment
1/1 pre-OCI. 2/2 OCI. Top 1/3 CCN. Networking does wonders.
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:20:35 am   in: Legal Employment
7 offers from 8 CBs (median at T20)
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:12:26 am   in: Legal Employment
Top 1/3 MVPD with prior work experience. 12 offers from 16 callbacks spread around NYC, DC and a secondary (home) market.
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Re: WUSTL Class of 2022 Thread  
  by: Reverse Dreamer   on: September 24, at 8:11:42 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Had my interview last week. The interviewer was nice and motivating about WashU as a top school. She really asked me questions about my personal statement and it turned into a conversation from there. She said that she wrote up her report and sent off the the admissions committee... so now I wait. Good luck everyone.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 8:03:54 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:I didn't state a preferred date. They specifically asked me if both dates would work and I said yes. I would definitely prefer October, but would certainly be happy with either one...fingers crossed!

Same here.
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Will GRE hurt my chances at Harvard?  
  by: ernietakeslsac   on: September 24, at 6:53:51 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hey all, I just realized that I will be obligated to disclose my GRE score to Harvard. I registered for the test when I was sort of considering graduate programs (joint JD/PhD) but didn't prepare adequately because I realized that a PhD wasn't really in the stars for me prior to test day. I didn't score poorly enough to justify writing another addendum (I already had one for a minor C+F issue): 16...
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 5:57:05 am   in: Legal Employment
I got 1 from 8. I am now totally done thinking about OCI and the 2L hiring process. It's behind me. Put it behind you.
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Re: 3.35 gpa/179 LSAT/4yrsW/E - CLS,NYU,UPEN  
  by: oscar50595   on: September 24, at 3:34:02 am   in: What are my chances?
And to clarify since I hadn't explored the 'posts' option and can see what I posted before - I have had 3 years postgrad WE and a year during UG referred to as a placement year in the UK. It's technically an extended internship lasting a year to give undergrads a WE booster. This doesn't help us much. WE and externships won't make much difference to your cycle. What counts are your LSAT and your ...
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Wild Card   on: September 24, at 1:11:06 am   in: Legal Employment
1:4.

I don't feel unworthy, I feel blessed.
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:46:38 am   in: Legal Employment
If it makes you feel better, I went 1 for >10, and I am top 10% HYS.
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Re: Looking for specific info on the work clerks are doing  
  by: lavarman84   on: September 24, at 12:32:49 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
First, let me thank everyone for their honest answers. I feel like I went a round with Tyson (late 80's edition). Second, I met with my law firm contact the other day and I now have a better idea of what they're looking for. Instead of the work that clerks do for judges, they'd like a brief spiel on the types of cases judges handle. I know that I mentioned this before and it was stated that "...
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:20:36 am   in: Legal Employment
Scroll through this thread for 15 minutes and you'll see how fortunate you are to have gotten 8 callbacks, let alone a single offer. All you need is one, and you got it. You're golden, don't get caught up in your head about it. If you're super concerned, polish your interviewing skills or something. Whether someone else got 8/8 offers or 0/8 offers has no impact on you. Everything is arbitrary, be...
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Re: Looking for specific info on the work clerks are doing  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:15:07 am   in: Judicial Clerkships
The Judicial Yellow Book has a list of all current federal clerks, I believe. Law students, among others I'm sure, tend to have access to it through something called the Leadership Library.
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Re: OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: Npret   on: September 24, at 12:13:17 am   in: Legal Employment
That’s ridiculous. You expect to land every job in a highly competitive market? I think the 0Ls believe once they get into certain schools and get certain grades, every job is handed to them.
Be realistic about the job market you are in.
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 24, at 12:12:41 am   in: Legal Employment
Writing ability, reading ability, close attention to detail, and work ethic are all pretty important skills to have at most stages of being a lawyer -- at least in litigation. If you want to ever become partner, connections to wealthy folks and/or excellent social skills are also quasi-required.
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 11:51:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Op here, thanks for the advice. Yes, I know it was not the most elegant question.I am simply curious as to what skill sets are emphasized at different career stages. I don’t come from a family of lawyers. Any insight was appreciated so thank you again for restraining yourselves on the snark.
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: TFALAWL   on: September 23, at 10:35:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Lol at good lawyer equalling big law associate.
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: Ohiobumpkin   on: September 23, at 10:32:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Time management, organizational skills, communication skills, and emotional compartmentalization. Also, basic logical thinking helps, too.
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Re: 1st of 3 interviews w/ a DA office - what to expect?  
  by: DAhopeful2019   on: September 23, at 10:14:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
I've honestly gotten some hypos in first round interviews. They're just going to ask you the typical questions-- why do you wanna be a prosecutor? Why this office?
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 10:03:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
You’re going to get a lot of joke responses asking a question like this on this site, but I’ll try to offer a couple pieces of actual advice. First, there is not a whole lot you can do in law school. Take the classes relevant to your practice area if you can. You’ll likely forget much of the material before you start, but at least you’ll have some vague memory to go off of. Even clinics are not TH...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 9:48:53 pm   in: Legal Employment
I didn't state a preferred date. They specifically asked me if both dates would work and I said yes. I would definitely prefer October, but would certainly be happy with either one...fingers crossed!
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Re: Panel interview with the California AG's Office  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 9:29:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Again, it depends on what section and what city you're in. I had 4 different Cal AG interviews for 4 different positions in 2 cities. Got 2 different offers but ended up taking a fed gov job. One interview was straight to offer but the other 3 were not. Appreciate the information/response! If you could, could you elaborate a bit more on the following? (1) For the interviews that were not straight...
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Re: Junior concerned about hours  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 9:14:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
I was in a similar situation. I billed under 1k my first year. Then 2100 my second. Some people really are bad at integrating first years. But, I was always looking for something just in case.
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Re: Panel interview with the California AG's Office  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 8:43:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
depends on the section and position (which level of DAG) you're applying to tbh. I did a few of these interviews a few years back and they varied. edit: Ill add that it varied by interviewing city too. I interviewed both SAcramento and SF, and they were different despite the same position. OP here. Thanks for the response. It seems like this panel interview is the only stage prior to the final de...
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Re: What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: jkpolk   on: September 23, at 8:41:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
High pain tolerance
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Re: Walden Macht & Haran  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 8:38:15 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone have any insight on this firm? I know it was formed by former Gibson partners and seems to be doing well but because it is so new it's hard to find information about it. Help is appreciated!

Reviving to see if anyone has any new insights. Firm seems to be growing non-stop and expanding some really interesting practice areas, but black boxes make me nervous.
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Re: ED to Georgetown Evening Program with 2.9?  
  by: rgwen   on: September 23, at 7:50:20 pm   in: What are my chances?
Totes, Thanks for your quick and detailed response...apologies for the delay on my end as I was out of town this weekend. I'm certainly going to be reaching out to GT to try and set up a meeting as that sounds like the most direct way to really feel out where I stand. If you had to put your finger in the air on what I'd need to hit on the LSAT, what would you say? Or is my profile just a bit too o...
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Houstonttt   on: September 23, at 7:40:34 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Was it true!!! Coz I got 113 on kaplan final as well So based on my wholly unscientific and probably overly optimistic analysis of our pool of information, if you scored a 113 (raw) on your final practice MBE, you should be within a point or two of the MBE average score of 141. I hope that is true. More results posting this week! I reallllllllly hope this is true because I think that was my score ...
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Re: Final Practice MBE Score VS Actual MBE Scaled Score (if released)  
  by: Houstonttt   on: September 23, at 7:31:10 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Kaplan
Mid 97
Final 113
Texas July 18 ..still waiting
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Re: Two Weeks Notice as a Fed  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 7:15:08 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bump
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July 2018 Kaplan/Barbri Final MBE Scores vs. Actual Scaled MBE Score  
  by: Houstonttt   on: September 23, at 6:44:41 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Kaplan Mid 94/200 47%
Final 113/200 57%
hoping for real 10% increase as well
waiting for the result..
please share yours
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1st of 3 interviews w/ a DA office - what to expect?  
  by: nasra234   on: September 23, at 6:37:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
The message title pretty much sums up what my question is about. I have an interview with a DA office later this week, and they do 3 or 4 rounds of interviews before making an offer. My guess is that there won't be any hypotheticals on this 1st interview, but going off of the experiences some of you all may have had, have you any idea what I should expect or how I should prepare for this interview?
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My Personal Statement as of now, need critiques please  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 6:09:30 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Here it is, I omitted some potentially revealing info: Complete silence. Odd. The music was playing. But I couldn’t hear a thing. Not even the faintest sound. No lyric, chord, melody, beat or note could be heard. “Dude, your left earbud must be broken,” I told my friend. However, after trying it on himself, he remarked, insouciantly, “works fine for me, dude”. No drama. No explosions. Just casual ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 5:45:31 pm   in: Legal Employment
Did anyone actually say they had a preferred start date? Just wondering if the majority of folks were leaning one way or the other. Hoping tomorrow will be the day!
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 5:43:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
So, the delay may or may not matter that much, given that you’d need to complete the background check anyway. But if the offices you’re considering currently have any open positions, they will most likely want to fill them before a year from now, and most offices I know don’t consider applications if they don’t have a current opening (I know a few of the biggest/fanciest offices, like SDNY and CDC...
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OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: inthestacks07   on: September 23, at 5:42:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hoping to discuss OCI callback/offer ratios with y'all. Current 2L who secured a BigLaw SA. Yet, it was my only offer out of 8+ callbacks and my ratio makes me feel very undeserving. Anyone in the same position?
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What makes a good lawyer?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: September 23, at 5:41:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
in your experience, what are the qualities that make a good summer associate, junior associate, mid-level associate, senior associate, and partner? Is it true that there is a weak correlation between academic performance in law school and professional performance? Are there certain skill sets or practices that a student can hone in a law school environment?
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: JakeTappers   on: September 23, at 5:34:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
I am fairly certain that without legal experience (not clerkships) there will very few, if any, USAOs that will consider you. I interviewed in 10+ offices and at least got that impression (and the openings explicitly say so)
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OCI Callback/Offer Ratio  
  by: inthestacks07   on: September 23, at 5:29:09 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Looking to discuss OCI Callback/Offer ratios with y'all. Current 2L who secured a BigLaw SA. However, it was my only offer out of 9 callbacks, so I'm feeling quite undeserving. Anyone else in the same position?
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