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Re: NYC to 200k  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 23, at 1:23:45 am   in: Legal Employment
Depressing that this thread really died down and my V100 firm hasn’t matched yet while all of its “peers” have matched.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=287076

Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: LexBoogie   on: July 23, at 1:21:59 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sooooo, I was a lil’ extra and through some cross-referencing figured out that the 210 recently released Qs start with Civ Pro at #1901. Pretty sure that each topic is covered alphabetically through 2131/2132. Annoying af that adaptibar will not provide this information or let users isolate these Qs as a practice exam.
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Re: 4.0 177 major C&F issue  
  by: hoos89   on: July 23, at 1:11:10 am   in: Law School Admissions Forum
(Sorry for throwaway account) Without providing too much detail, this is my situation: when I was 18 (ten years ago) my friend got in a verbal fight with someone at a party so we were kicked out. He decided to steal the kids laptop and iphone to get back at him (which he mistakenly damaged in the process) and because we left and he stayed at my house that night, I was also arrested and charged wi...
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Re: Is January 2019 too late?  
  by: hoos89   on: July 23, at 1:01:58 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey guys, so I just started studying for LSAT for admission to 2019 year. I have about 4 months of nothing but studying from now to November test date, which I am planning to take. If I end up doing not well on the November test, would retaking the test in January 2019 be okay for admission to the 2019 cycle? Or would it be too late? I really need to enter in 2019, and ideally acing the November ...
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Re: Can you be a Law Clerk as a 1L?  
  by: hoos89   on: July 23, at 12:55:17 am   in: Forum for Law School Students

friz90 wrote:I saw on a person resume that they wrote they were a law clerk as a 1L in a small law firm. How can you get a job like this? Is it through your law school?

Don't work as a 1L. Getting paid $15/hr or whatever isn't really worth hurting your chances at a job that pays $3650/week out of law school.
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Re: Already Declined Offer  
  by: hoos89   on: July 23, at 12:53:02 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

maddie99 wrote:
RCSOB657 wrote:Yeah, respectfully, you're not going to get into those schools this year. Try again next year.


Do you mean the schools whose offers I declined? Or the schools I am waitlisted at?

Thanks

Retake the LSAT and try again next year.
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Re: Already Declined Offer  
  by: maddie99   on: July 23, at 12:28:27 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists

RCSOB657 wrote:Yeah, respectfully, you're not going to get into those schools this year. Try again next year.


Do you mean the schools whose offers I declined? Or the schools I am waitlisted at?

Thanks
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Re: My Guide to Job Hunting Through "Networking" (Hustling)  
  by: ziyouzhu01   on: July 22, at 11:54:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
I registered just to say thank you.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87297

Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: AZ123   on: July 22, at 11:19:32 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So I feel pretty confident about my ability to spot the relevant issues in an essay, but I tend to mix up the law or misstate stuff. Do you think spotting the correct issue but mixing up the law will be good enough to pass if I incorporate enough facts? (Hopefully I just apply the law properly, but you never know haha)
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: CALTEX   on: July 22, at 10:51:37 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
California checking in! Good luck to all who are taking the bar exam on Tuesday! I really enjoyed the comradery in support of this group. Does anyone have experience with the Pasadena testing center? Do I need to bring a parka for the cold? Best wishes to all!


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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: psg190   on: July 22, at 10:42:31 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sometimes I come across a prompt in the Barbri essay book that I just know I'm going to slay.

Then I look down and notice it's an MEE question. You're such a tease Barbri. Why do I live in this state?
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0L Prep Advice from a 3L  
  by: RioGrandeLaw   on: July 22, at 10:36:57 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
The general advice (which I ignored) is don't try to get a leg up or start studying the summer before law school. It's good advice. With ONE exception! There are series of law school audio lectures on disk/mp3 called "Sum and Substance" and "Law School Legends." They cover the main doctrinal classes you will be taking. All you have to do is listen to them. Driving, the gym, etc...
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Re: Can you be a Law Clerk as a 1L?  
  by: RioGrandeLaw   on: July 22, at 10:27:01 pm   in: Forum for Law School Students
Yes. I did. Although to be honest, it's not encouraged, especially by the law schools. Most frown on 1Ls working. Thankfully, mine has a sensible policy of not working more than 15hrs a week your 1L year. I got my law clerk job through an ad in the state Bar Journal in February of my 1L. Just sent in my resume, transcript and writing sample from the first semester. Was an absolutely fantastic job,...
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Re: Top 25% at S--how much does no law review matter?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:53:37 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I wrote the 3 points above and the response made me think to add one more big picture comment: In every class at SLS, there’s going to be someone (or a handful of someones) who gets through with all the “standard” gold stars: law review, perfect/near perfect grades, moot court winner, SCOTUS clinic, whatever. You’re not that person (nor am I!). But the good news is that most people who go on to c...
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Re: Top 25% at S--how much does no law review matter?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:51:04 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
I'm a current clerk for a well-known judge who averages 1 SCOTUS clerk per year. Those grades definitely meet my judge's cutoff. That said, you need the complete package to get an interview: great recommendations, strong writing sample, and a cover letter/resume that would make us think you'd be a good "fit" in chambers. If I were in your position, I wouldn't do a secondary journal, and ...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: FinallyPassedTheBar   on: July 22, at 9:46:45 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Good luck everybody!! You got this!
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: whosinthehousejc   on: July 22, at 9:20:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Guccifer91 wrote:What is with the bar examiners hiding the 8 ball on some of these past exam answers? Especially with regards to deadlines. "Almost everyone got this question wrong and didn't know what the deadline was for filing" Are we supposed to look through hundreds of pages of crim pro to find this shit ourselves?

the recent crim P&E "answers" are complete garbage.
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Re: Kaplan July 2018 - Discussion  
  by: CLSGumbo   on: July 22, at 9:16:51 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

ladybug1989 wrote:Anyone else's MBE scores decreasing? I'm normally between 68-74% in the Qbank, but last couple days i'm below 62%. Not sure if the questions are getting harder (there's about 700 left in the bank), im burnt out, or getting dumber.

Same thing happening to me. Kind of just done with the Kaplan Qs at this point...
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Re: Pros of Mid-Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:11:08 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:What do people really consider midlaw? I personally would consider a 150-200 attorney firm to be a big law firm unless those attorneys are spread between a few offices

I think of it more in terms of pay/prestige than I do number of attorneys.
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Re: I hate litigation. What now?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:09:05 pm   in: Legal Employment

trebekismyhero wrote:Another option is trying to go in-house to a place that has a large legal department. I know litigators who went in-house at Fortune 500 companies and within a year were doing mostly corporate work because that is they need more of.

This is such a good idea. I think I’ll start just searching job postings of huge companies.
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: Guccifer91   on: July 22, at 9:08:51 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
What is with the bar examiners hiding the 8 ball on some of these past exam answers? Especially with regards to deadlines. "Almost everyone got this question wrong and didn't know what the deadline was for filing" Are we supposed to look through hundreds of pages of crim pro to find this shit ourselves?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=286588

Re: Fordham OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:08:32 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone get a Gibson NY interview? Any stats on that?

3.7, secondary journal, Moot Court
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4.0 177 major C&F issue  
  by: Throwaway23245   on: July 22, at 9:08:01 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
(Sorry for throwaway account) Without providing too much detail, this is my situation: when I was 18 (ten years ago) my friend got in a verbal fight with someone at a party so we were kicked out. He decided to steal the kids laptop and iphone to get back at him (which he mistakenly damaged in the process) and because we left and he stayed at my house that night, I was also arrested and charged wit...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=296783

Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Blueplanet   on: July 22, at 9:06:18 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
With Kaplan you get model answers for the essays which cover every potential angel. Can anyone who has taken the exam and seen the Kaplan essays confirm if they are able to produce anything like the model answers in the exam?
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Re: Pros of Mid-Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:03:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
What do people really consider midlaw? I personally would consider a 150-200 attorney firm to be a big law firm unless those attorneys are spread between a few offices
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:00:21 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What’s the callback to offer timeframe for Latham NY?

Did you have a screener before your callback ? When was your callback?

I think from last years thread, some people who had callbacks the end of July didn’t hear until after OCI in August.
No screener, regular 4 interview callback but they didn’t cover travel costs
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Re: Anyone have any tips for remembering Owner's duties to tresppassors  
  by: JHP   on: July 22, at 9:00:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
not sure this is very helpful but it memorizing the title lines (invitee--inspect/protect) might be a simplistic way of keeping them straight. Owners owe no duty of care to undiscovered trespassers except to avoid willful/wanton conduct (and are SL for the harms of a vicious guard dog) however a discovered trespasser is owed the same duty of care as an licensee duty of care to licensee/discovered...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: el madrileno   on: July 22, at 8:55:03 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
yeah, and those were easy. I missed the questions that required you to guess correctly on the gray area, like the shopkeeper/false imprisonment question (was he acting reasonably), and the time of the traffic stop. oh well. It was still passing.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Happy88   on: July 22, at 8:53:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I just checked in the hotel, my room’s view is the exam center. Lovely.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 22, at 8:51:13 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is there any chance Themis makes the last MBE set easier to help make you feel more confident going in? Got 88% which my best score (most are mid 70s). Not that I'm really complaining, it does help with confidence (a 60 would have crushed me). I was thinking about that. I actually scored much worse than my usual scores, but I also did it last night when I was quite tired. The questions seemed dif...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: el madrileno   on: July 22, at 8:48:58 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is there any chance Themis makes the last MBE set easier to help make you feel more confident going in? Got 88% which my best score (most are mid 70s). Not that I'm really complaining, it does help with confidence (a 60 would have crushed me). I was thinking about that. I actually scored much worse than my usual scores, but I also did it last night when I was quite tired. The questions seemed dif...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=287854

Re: Kaplan July 2018 - Discussion  
  by: max_p   on: July 22, at 8:45:07 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am convinced Kaplan saves the worst questions for last. The questions I've done this week are all unclear. Some have typos.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=288870

Re: Fordham OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 8:34:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Did anyone get a Gibson NY interview? Any stats on that?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=288659

Re: 2018 July DC Bar  
  by: Nicolena.   on: July 22, at 8:21:47 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

az279 wrote:The ticket says we're suppose to have a five digit id number but mine is only 4. Anyone else have this issue?

When I called they said we will be adding a digit (I think she said "5" in front or back of the number). It's a mistake on everyones.
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Re: Anyone have any tips for remembering Owner's duties to tresppassors  
  by: Skool   on: July 22, at 8:14:03 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
not sure this is very helpful but it memorizing the title lines (invitee--inspect/protect) might be a simplistic way of keeping them straight. Owners owe no duty of care to undiscovered trespassers except to avoid willful/wanton conduct (and are SL for the harms of a vicious guard dog) however a discovered trespasser is owed the same duty of care as an licensee duty of care to licensee/discovered...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=296782

Re: Columbia 2018 Transfer Thread  
  by: Lawstudent3692   on: July 22, at 8:10:46 pm   in: Transfers

lebaneselawyer wrote:
kengh wrote:Anyone seen any recent movement?

I got an email at 4:14 from the "Office of the University Registrar for Columbia University" that was like a welcome new students email. I immediately called the JD Admissions office to verify and they said that this was a glitch.

Did you hear back? I got that email five days ago and haven't heard.
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Re: 2018 July DC Bar  
  by: az279   on: July 22, at 8:07:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
The ticket says we're suppose to have a five digit id number but mine is only 4. Anyone else have this issue?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lawlurk   on: July 22, at 7:58:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 22, at 7:57:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is there any chance Themis makes the last MBE set easier to help make you feel more confident going in? Got 88% which my best score (most are mid 70s).

Not that I'm really complaining, it does help with confidence (a 60 would have crushed me).
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=287854

Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: July 22, at 7:47:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: Pros of Mid-Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 7:34:57 pm   in: Legal Employment
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lawlurk   on: July 22, at 7:27:44 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: 2018 July DC Bar  
  by: billbraskysucka   on: July 22, at 7:18:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone understand where we're actually supposed to line up for security on test day...?
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Re: Kaplan July 2018 - Discussion  
  by: ladybug1989   on: July 22, at 7:14:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone else's MBE scores decreasing? I'm normally between 68-74% in the Qbank, but last couple days i'm below 62%. Not sure if the questions are getting harder (there's about 700 left in the bank), im burnt out, or getting dumber.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=288870

Re: Anyone have any tips for remembering Owner's duties to tresppassors  
  by: tiffannybrown   on: July 22, at 7:11:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thank you!
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Re: A quick question about OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 7:10:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thank you both! I will reach out next week!
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: emwallen   on: July 22, at 7:07:57 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
my reading of the above question was that the church has a life estate in the property measured by the life of the son; the grandchildren have a reversionary interest and are the remaindermen. life estate holders have a duty not to commit waste and have to keep the property in the same condition that they found it in. remaindermen can seek injunctive and monetary relief to prevent waste. the mone...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 22, at 7:03:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
my reading of the above question was that the church has a life estate in the property measured by the life of the son; the grandchildren have a reversionary interest and are the remaindermen. life estate holders have a duty not to commit waste and have to keep the property in the same condition that they found it in. remaindermen can seek injunctive and monetary relief to prevent waste. the mone...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 22, at 7:02:38 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Flew into SF today from the East Coast. Really cranked up anxiety level. Oh well.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: emwallen   on: July 22, at 6:54:51 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
my reading of the above question was that the church has a life estate in the property measured by the life of the son; the grandchildren have a reversionary interest and are the remaindermen. life estate holders have a duty not to commit waste and have to keep the property in the same condition that they found it in. remaindermen can seek injunctive and monetary relief to prevent waste. the money...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 22, at 6:32:33 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can we post Themis questions on here? I just did practice test 4 and I really don't understand one of the quesitons. Yeah, we've discussed a lot of them--post away. I really don't understand this question. Can anyone explain? Question 981 In 1960, the owner in fee simple absolute conveyed Stoneacre, a five-acre tract of land. The relevant, operative words of the deed conveyed to a church "fo...
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Re: How much have you been drinking during bar prep?  
  by: Cop2lawyerNYC   on: July 22, at 6:27:06 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Lawworld19 wrote:Any confessions? haha

Ha! Had a party to go to last night and couldn’t resist having a few.
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: Tanicius   on: July 22, at 6:24:03 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

1) The defendant did not lie while on the stand. He had a character witness testify.

My head exploded. Fact pattern says the defendant testified about the accident and the prosecution sought to cross her about her peacefulness, but it was a different witness who testified to her peacefulness. Gotta love the MBE.
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Re: Let's talk about Atlanta!  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 6:23:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
K&S, Jones Day, and Greenberg are the big firms. I'd probs only work for Jones Day but make efforts to stay out of Engle cases. I don't think I added GT to my list, but they're awful. It used to be a "blood for cash" place because you billed a zillion hours but got way above market bonuses. But I don't think they raised salaries (in response to the 20k bump last year or the 10k bump...
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Re: Anyone have any tips for remembering Owner's duties to tresppassors  
  by: emwallen   on: July 22, at 6:23:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
not sure this is very helpful but it memorizing the title lines (invitee--inspect/protect) might be a simplistic way of keeping them straight. duty of care to trespassers: willful/wanton Owners owe no duty of care to undiscovered trespassers except to avoid willful/wanton conduct (and are SL for the harms of a vicious guard dog) however a discovered trespasser is owed the same duty of care as an l...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 22, at 6:14:03 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Findedeux wrote:Can we post Themis questions on here?

I just did practice test 4 and I really don't understand one of the quesitons.

Yeah, we've discussed a lot of them--post away.
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Anyone have any tips for remembering Owner's duties to tresppassors  
  by: tiffannybrown   on: July 22, at 6:03:58 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I can never remember the difference between Owners duties to anticipated trespassors/inviteess + licensees. Anything would help
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 22, at 5:56:17 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can we post Themis questions on here?

I just did practice test 4 and I really don't understand one of the quesitons.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=287854

Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Omerta   on: July 22, at 5:44:51 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Good luck to all!

Not that it matters but, for posterity, here are my predictions:

MC - Business entities and evidence distinctions.
Essays - Torts, trusts or Florida conlaw, some combo of real property/contracts/secured transactions. Very low likelihood that dependency, family law, or commercial paper make an appearance.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Pajsa18   on: July 22, at 5:39:39 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I honestly think it's random and it depends on what questions you have left in the pool. Mixed set 17 was just about the same for me (same score as like 7-8 other sets, well settled over 70%). However, mixed sets 15 and 16 kicked my butt. Just to confirm some previous postings about mixed set 17 - did pretty much everyone score significantly lower on that one, or on set 18? I just took 17 and did...
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How much have you been drinking during bar prep?  
  by: Lawworld19   on: July 22, at 5:37:03 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confessions? haha
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 5:34:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Homie, 405 specifically says SI can only be used on "character witness." The defendant is not his own character witness. The policy behind this is to impeach the character witness by implying they don't know the defendant well enough, and whatever 'good' opinion they had of him is undermined by the fact that they didn't know of a specific instance. It's also the same policy that underli...
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: b290   on: July 22, at 5:30:28 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
How's everyone feeling? I have basically stopped studying at this point. A little anxious, but optimistic. Still revising. Race against time. Feel like so much i dont remember/ need to revise/ learn again. There's nothing extra you can do at this point. Trying to do too much now is actually counterproductive. Go over your game plan and finesse it. Exam day is more about performance for that day t...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: Tanicius   on: July 22, at 5:18:24 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Homie, 405 specifically says SI can only be used on "character witness." The defendant is not his own character witness. The policy behind this is to impeach the character witness by implying they don't know the defendant well enough, and whatever 'good' opinion they had of him is undermined by the fact that they didn't know of a specific instance. It's also the same policy that underli...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 5:17:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
What’s the callback to offer timeframe for Latham NY? Did you have a screener before your callback ? When was your callback? I think from last years thread, some people who had callbacks the end of July didn’t hear until after OCI in August. I got a very wishy washy answer from them when I asked. Said it could be near-immediate, could be after they go to your schools OCI and start doing CBs from ...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 5:14:24 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:What’s the callback to offer timeframe for Latham NY?

Did you have a screener before your callback ? When was your callback?

I think from last years thread, some people who had callbacks the end of July didn’t hear until after OCI in August.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: fuuuuuuuuuu   on: July 22, at 5:11:05 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I honestly think it's random and it depends on what questions you have left in the pool. Mixed set 17 was just about the same for me (same score as like 7-8 other sets, well settled over 70%). However, mixed sets 15 and 16 kicked my butt. Just to confirm some previous postings about mixed set 17 - did pretty much everyone score significantly lower on that one, or on set 18? I just took 17 and did ...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 5:10:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
What’s the callback to offer timeframe for Latham NY?
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Re: Harvard EIP 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 5:08:59 pm   in: Legal Employment
A few pointers from someone who made a lot of mistakes at EIP at HLS sometime within the last few years. 1. If you don't have really good grades, consider telling firms you're interested in corporate even if you really want to end up doing litigation. I had 4 Hs after 1L and was a bit too firm in telling interviewers that I want to do litigation. In retrospect, I should have presented myself as mo...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 5:03:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
No, you can't. Specific instances are only allowed if character is in issue or for non-propensity use. 404 is subject to 405, which explicitly prohibits using specific instances in response to opened doors. This is incorrect. You're thinking of 405(b), which speaks about specific instances of conduct that goes to an essential issue in the case. I'm talking about 405(a), which says that normally i...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Pajsa18   on: July 22, at 5:01:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Just to confirm some previous postings about mixed set 17 - did pretty much everyone score significantly lower on that one, or on set 18?

I just took 17 and did so much worse than my normal average, but wasn't sure if that was the consensus on this mixed set?
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: airylef   on: July 22, at 5:01:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm so anxious. I'm always anxious, though, so it's worse. I just checked into my hotel in Albany. Never been here before (from CT, spent most of my time since HS in NYC). This city is... bizarre. My husband and I walked by about ten restaurants that were closed before we found a dimly-lit dive kind of place. I'm used to things closing early on Sunday, but not being entirely closed. Even places th...
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Re: AUGUST 2018 - MPRE DISCUSSION  
  by: Ava1989   on: July 22, at 4:49:30 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Studied for 10 days approx 5 hours/day. I know a lot of people say it's a very easy test but personally felt it still required some proper studying and memorisation. Though I never studied Professional Responsibility before nor went to law school in the US. But still my best advice would be not to underestimate the MPRE.
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: Tanicius   on: July 22, at 4:47:43 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
No, you can't. Specific instances are only allowed if character is in issue or for non-propensity use. 404 is subject to 405, which explicitly prohibits using specific instances in response to opened doors. This is incorrect. You're thinking of 405(b), which speaks about specific instances of conduct that goes to an essential issue in the case. I'm talking about 405(a), which says that normally i...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Ava1989   on: July 22, at 4:44:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hey, sorry for probably being the 100th person asking this , but anyone knows what percentage on the MBE practice corresponds to a NY passing score on the actual MBE? Is it the 70% that Themis puts as goal on its mixed-subjects PQs?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Fordham Law Waitlist 2021  
  by: Wilson212   on: July 22, at 4:42:08 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Are any on you poor souls still on the WL? It's getting painful...
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Re: Fordham Law c/o 2021 wait list  
  by: Wilson212   on: July 22, at 4:40:43 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Anyone hear more off the wait list? Are others still waiting?
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 22, at 4:34:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Appreciate the responses. Can you also shed some light on CA essay grading? Specifically, what percentile would you estimate a 55, 60, and 65 are? I made a crude estimate below. I converted each essay average to what MBE score they would represent and then compared those to the J17 National %tiles and then made a crude adjustment to what I would expect to be the CA %tiles (CA examinees score bett...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 22, at 4:33:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

BlueLaw11 wrote:What's the final verdict on throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the Essays? Most of the model answers bring up every conceivable issue (regardless how frivolous), but my essay grader told me to stick to what was obvious. Tempted to just say every possible issue that comes to my mind, but I don't want to piss off the graders
Also curious...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: santoki   on: July 22, at 4:25:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
DONE studying til tuesday.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 4:12:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Can anyone shed some light on how long it typically takes to hear back after submitting the AF medical pre-screen/request for exam info? I'm an April board selectee and submitted medical records a little over 7 weeks ago and haven't heard anything. Tried contacting accessions but haven't heard back from them either. I'm guessing the answer is "it depends," but just wondering if I should ...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Kinky John   on: July 22, at 4:04:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sorry for the double post, but I need to rant somewhere and my wife is probably tired of hearing me rage about how stupid the bar is. Regarding removal, which of the following is FALSE? You Selected: Removal is proper only if the case could have originally been brought by the plaintiff in federal court. When removal is based on diversity jurisdiction, removal is proper only if the case was origin...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: love4vinolaw   on: July 22, at 4:00:41 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

JakeTappers wrote:Pretty awesome that the website is down and I can't print my ticket.

Ditto. Sorry. hang in there.
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:59:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
is "lawyer positions" only referring to big law, though?
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: July 22, at 3:55:32 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
If a friend who took the NY bar last year got a scaled MBE score of 160 (since NY releases scores), does that mean in CA, if he took the same MBE, he would have received a scaled score of 1600? Or does CA do its own independent scaling and therefore his scaled score in CA might be different? Thanks. Yes. For example, an examinee in California who scored a 1561 on the F18 MBE answered the same num...
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Re: Did anyone update their Examplify from v 1.5 to 1.6?  
  by: Cop2lawyerNYC   on: July 22, at 3:50:32 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

zhongxiaozhui wrote:I am still at 1.5.4. Examplify did not prompt for me to update it. I am confused. Do we have to update or no

I’m not sure. I was able to figure it out eventually so I upgraded to 1.6.
It seems that those with 1.5 are being prompted to upgrade; 1.5.4s are not.
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:49:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Law journal results are coming out tomorrow morning (7/23), 10-11 am eastern. Also, I haven't seen any data suggesting that class sizes are down 25%, as some have suggested. Here is ATL earlier this year discussing the issue of declining class sizes: [L]arge law firms — those with more than 700 lawyers — actually cut back on the size of their summer associate classes in 2017. This is the first de...
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Re: AUGUST 2018 - MPRE DISCUSSION  
  by: kyle010723   on: July 22, at 3:45:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi all, thought I'd start a thread for those writing the MPRE on August12. Anyone who's written the MPRE have any tips, guidance, recommendations, suggestions for studying? I hear you only need like 2 weeks of evening study (I work full time and am using Themis). Does that sound about right? Would just one week of study work? Also is it hard? Thanks!! Watch that 4 hours Barbri video (free, I assu...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:44:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Any offers from Akin DC yet?
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:37:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
How common are pre-OCI offers? For those of you who have an offer or offers in hand, how many screeners are you going to do at OCI?
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:36:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Law journal results are coming out tomorrow morning (7/23), 10-11 am eastern. Also, I haven't seen any data suggesting that class sizes are down 25%, as some have suggested. Here is ATL earlier this year discussing the issue of declining class sizes: [L]arge law firms — those with more than 700 lawyers — actually cut back on the size of their summer associate classes in 2017. This is the first de...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:33:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
Law journal results are coming out tomorrow morning (7/23), 10-11 am eastern. Also, I haven't seen any data suggesting that class sizes are down 25%, as some have suggested. Here is ATL earlier this year discussing the issue of declining class sizes: [L]arge law firms — those with more than 700 lawyers — actually cut back on the size of their summer associate classes in 2017. This is the first dec...
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Re: Did anyone update their Examplify from v 1.5 to 1.6?  
  by: zhongxiaozhui   on: July 22, at 3:29:08 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am still at 1.5.4. Examplify did not prompt for me to update it. I am confused. Do we have to update or no
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:28:45 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:welp, I’m at 27 now.

welp?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2018-2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 3:25:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone know anything about which components in the criminal division are actually hiring? Website says: Trial Attorney (4) These are permanent positions in Washington, D.C. Incoming Honors Program hires must agree to a four year commitment. Asset Forfeiture Fellowship Program (3) This is a three-year fellowship in Washington, D.C. which may be extended or converted to a permanent position at the ...
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: bigLexcited   on: July 22, at 3:10:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

NorthGroundsRat wrote:How's everyone feeling? I have basically stopped studying at this point. A little anxious, but optimistic.

Still revising. Race against time. Feel like so much i dont remember/ need to revise/ learn again.
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: NorthGroundsRat   on: July 22, at 3:06:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
How's everyone feeling? I have basically stopped studying at this point. A little anxious, but optimistic.
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: Cop2lawyerNYC   on: July 22, at 3:03:05 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
If a friend who took the NY bar last year got a scaled MBE score of 160 (since NY releases scores), does that mean in CA, if he took the same MBE, he would have received a scaled score of 1600? Or does CA do its own independent scaling and therefore his scaled score in CA might be different? Thanks. Yes. For example, an examinee in California who scored a 1561 on the F18 MBE answered the same num...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 2:59:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
welp, I’m at 27 now.
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Re: 1L Job Search - Birmingham Firms  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 2:59:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Now convicted lawyer

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/inde ... l_bri.html
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: July 22, at 2:57:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Appreciate the responses. Can you also shed some light on CA essay grading? Specifically, what percentile would you estimate a 55, 60, and 65 are? I made a crude estimate below. I converted each essay average to what MBE score they would represent and then compared those to the J17 National %tiles and then made a crude adjustment to what I would expect to be the CA %tiles (CA examinees score bett...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: AspiringAspirant   on: July 22, at 2:54:35 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I think the problem here is that they're asking the defendant about the incident rather than the witness. They would be able to ask the witness about specific acts of the defendant that would rebut their testimony re: the defendant's peaceful nature - "any misconduct, including prior arrests may be inquired about while cross examining a defendant's character witness". The inference bein...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: JakeTappers   on: July 22, at 2:52:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Pretty awesome that the website is down and I can't print my ticket.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: fuuuuuuuuuu   on: July 22, at 2:40:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Depends on jurisdiction I think. MEE doesn't really provide you with much room for error given time constraints, so probably not advisable. But for the states that utilize a more convoluted fact pattern for three 1 hour essays (or some variation of that), I think throwing the kitchen sink is actually beneficial to you. What's the final verdict on throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the Ess...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 2:39:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
that’s not what “exclusively” means, so no, not obvious "bid exclusively New York" - reading comprehension is your friend. that means he didn’t bid on other markets, not that he used all his bids, you stupid dummy head it doesn't mean anything with respect to how many bids he used, right. but obviously he did not bid on just 1 firm... to even suggest that is to impute unrealistic arroga...
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: July 22, at 2:37:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
If a friend who took the NY bar last year got a scaled MBE score of 160 (since NY releases scores), does that mean in CA, if he took the same MBE, he would have received a scaled score of 1600? Or does CA do its own independent scaling and therefore his scaled score in CA might be different? Thanks. Yes. For example, an examinee in California who scored a 1561 on the F18 MBE answered the same num...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: BlueLaw11   on: July 22, at 2:36:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
What's the final verdict on throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the Essays? Most of the model answers bring up every conceivable issue (regardless how frivolous), but my essay grader told me to stick to what was obvious. Tempted to just say every possible issue that comes to my mind, but I don't want to piss off the graders
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 2:35:46 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:that’s not what “exclusively” means, so no, not obvious

"bid exclusively New York" - reading comprehension is your friend.
that means he didn’t bid on other markets, not that he used all his bids, you stupid dummy head
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 2:34:48 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:that’s not what “exclusively” means, so no, not obvious

"bid exclusively New York" - reading comprehension is your friend.
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 2:32:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
that’s not what “exclusively” means, so no, not obvious
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: JoeSeperac   on: July 22, at 2:30:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Joe, could you explain why on your UBE calculator for DC/Alabama/Colorado which use the 6 point scoring system, there can be such a huge difference between passing for the same MBE and essay grades? For example, getting all 3's in the Colorado MEE/MPT will reach 266 but getting all 3's in DC/Alabama would not, assuming a 133 MBE The calculators are correct. The difference is due to the scaling. B...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 2:28:46 pm   in: Legal Employment
so Duke had their best employment numbers while summer class sizes were shrinking? This doom and gloom is baffling to me (2017 grad). Everything I've heard from last year's OCI is that it was easy as shit to get a job. 2019 people with 3.2s got V10 firms that would have never considered them during OCI my year. The economy is doing really well -- please don't scare 2Ls with this. Yeah, you might ...
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Re: LA Litigation Market/Best Trial Firms (Latham, GDC, Kirkland?)  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: July 22, at 2:28:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
I can tell you there's very few AUSAs out there who would go easy on corporate criminals just to secure a future job. Any argument to the contrary is weak. You can only make your mark as an AUSA if you're REALLY good at what you do. And AUSAs who take it easy on corporate defendants are seen as weak and ineffective. While the Chickenshit Club tries to make the argument you're suggesting, it just ...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: JustMe83   on: July 22, at 2:22:33 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I think the problem here is that they're asking the defendant about the incident rather than the witness. They would be able to ask the witness about specific acts of the defendant that would rebut their testimony re: the defendant's peaceful nature - "any misconduct, including prior arrests may be inquired about while cross examining a defendant's character witness". The inference bein...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: JulyRepeater   on: July 22, at 2:17:16 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 2:11:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: JulyRepeater   on: July 22, at 2:07:22 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: arose928   on: July 22, at 2:06:14 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

estefanchanning wrote:
Blueplanet wrote:On the CA Bar webpage it states "Pencil sharpeners and separate erasers will not be allowed into the examination room" so I was thinking that attached erasers were permitted.

yeah no unfortunately it's part of them testing you to be a lawyer. stupid i know but they want to mimic how in real life you can't just "erase" bad decisions.

Your trolling is kind of unnecessary rn.
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 2:04:13 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I think the problem here is that they're asking the defendant about the incident rather than the witness. They would be able to ask the witness about specific acts of the defendant that would rebut their testimony re: the defendant's peaceful nature - "any misconduct, including prior arrests may be inquired about while cross examining a defendant's character witness". The inference bein...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: JustMe83   on: July 22, at 1:59:47 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I think the problem here is that they're asking the defendant about the incident rather than the witness. They would be able to ask the witness about specific acts of the defendant that would rebut their testimony re: the defendant's peaceful nature - "any misconduct, including prior arrests may be inquired about while cross examining a defendant's character witness". The inference being...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 1:50:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
That's not true. The rebuttal may well require specific instances of conduct that attack the claim by the defendant that she is peaceful. This is particularly well established law in self defense cases, where the 404.a.2.A problem comes up the most. Rule 405(a) allows the cross examiner to delve into specific instances. No, you can't. Specific instances are only allowed if character is in issue o...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lawyer786   on: July 22, at 1:45:32 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anybody know if they will let me bring glucose tablets in a small container if I have t1 Diabetes and am wearing an insulin pump? The Calbar site said no food or drinks, but tablets aren't really food...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: Tanicius   on: July 22, at 1:45:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
That's not true. The rebuttal may well require specific instances of conduct that attack the claim by the defendant that she is peaceful. This is particularly well established law in self defense cases, where the 404.a.2.A problem comes up the most. Rule 405(a) allows the cross examiner to delve into specific instances.
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 1:39:31 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Tanicius wrote:Answer seems pretty clearly incorrect. The door to defendant conduct was opened by the defendant testifying about her peaceful nature. A conviction is not needed to rebut that testimony under 404(a)(2)(A).

Prosecution may only use opinion or reputation to rebut an opened door for the same trait; it's not a free for all.

You're mixing up character evidence and impeachment.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 22, at 1:37:37 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
https://www.themisbar.com/pass-rates 3rd column has 75% completion pass rates. I agree that it's kind of pointless, given that you can easily check things off without really engaging with them. Especially when the set up basically forces you to check things off. There's a huge difference between reading the answers to an essay (what I generally did) vs. outlining fully vs. writing fully that just...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Omerta   on: July 22, at 1:36:14 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sorry for the double post, but I need to rant somewhere and my wife is probably tired of hearing me rage about how stupid the bar is. Regarding removal, which of the following is FALSE? You Selected: Removal is proper only if the case could have originally been brought by the plaintiff in federal court. When removal is based on diversity jurisdiction, removal is proper only if the case was origin...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: AspiringAspirant   on: July 22, at 1:35:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Blueplanet wrote:CA Bar does not permit separate erasers or pencil sharpeners but are you permitted pencils with an eraser on top? Thanks.

I need to stop coming to this forum.
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: Tanicius   on: July 22, at 1:35:18 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Answer seems pretty clearly incorrect. The door to defendant conduct was opened by the defendant testifying about her peaceful nature. A conviction is not needed to rebut that testimony under 404(a)(2)(A).
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Re: Anyone on here a Solo?  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: July 22, at 1:29:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
One question, I hear many people say it is hard to survive as a general p. In the beginning I hear it is tempting to take anything and everything, but to pick a specialty and run with it and market it hard. Do you agree? There's a difference between how you practice and what you take on. I market civil litigation, real estate litigation, and estate planning; but accept other shit (license suspens...
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Re: 2018 3L Hiring for Firms?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 1:26:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Bumping this to see if there’s been any movement here - I’m at CCN & a V50 this summer, not committed to “trading up” necessarily but a little worried about not getting the practice group I want at my summer firm, so trying to cover my bases. Kind of surprised by how few firms there are at OCI/on symplicity & wondering if anyone’s heard of any movement here anecdotally?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 1:20:24 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: Anyone on here a Solo?  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: July 22, at 1:08:45 pm   in: Legal Employment

Lawworld19 wrote:Also, do you use thumbtack?

No.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: JulyRepeater   on: July 22, at 1:08:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can someone tell me why C is correct? Is it because a quitclaim deed only contains no warranties of title rather than encumbrances ? S contracted to sell land to a B for $300k. The K provided that the closing would be 60 days after the K was signed and that the S would convey to the B a "marketable title" by a quitclaim deed at closing. The K contained no other provisions regarding the ...
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Re: Anyone on here a Solo?  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: July 22, at 1:07:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
Advertising? Where, how much? Best results are from ____? Anything else in ref to advertising....let 'er rip. My advertising budget consists of my website ($18/month), 500 business cards from VistaPrint ($40ish), and the cost of stamps to send letters to friends/family. I may put a small ad in the church bulletin and my local paper, which are both minimal. Big brand advertising (Ad Words) that ac...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 12:51:01 pm   in: Legal Employment
so Duke had their best employment numbers while summer class sizes were shrinking? This doom and gloom is baffling to me (2017 grad). Everything I've heard from last year's OCI is that it was easy as shit to get a job. 2019 people with 3.2s got V10 firms that would have never considered them during OCI my year. The economy is doing really well -- please don't scare 2Ls with this. Yeah, you might ...
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Re: Does working during 2 gap years between HS and college count as work experience?  
  by: rokiv   on: July 22, at 12:49:07 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
There are plenty of people who do not take time off between undergrad and law school, as long as you have a solid GPA and LSAT score you will have same/similar opportunities. You seem to have an interesting story. Although from the sound of it, I'm not sure you have the type of softs (aside from maybe the TV/Film Acting) that will make up for a poor GPA or poor LSAT. Being involved on campus and i...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 12:45:29 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi all, quick question- not sure if i am understanding this right or my brain is just fried already but here is the question: A defendant was charged with the murder of her husband. The defendant intends to claim that the death was an accident that occurred when she was cleaning her gun. At trial, the defense called a character witness who testified that the defendant had a reputation as a peacef...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: lilkim12   on: July 22, at 12:42:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi all, quick question- not sure if i am understanding this right or my brain is just fried already but here is the question: A defendant was charged with the murder of her husband. The defendant intends to claim that the death was an accident that occurred when she was cleaning her gun. At trial, the defense called a character witness who testified that the defendant had a reputation as a peacef...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: InterAlia1961   on: July 22, at 12:40:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi all, quick question- not sure if i am understanding this right or my brain is just fried already but here is the question: A defendant was charged with the murder of her husband. The defendant intends to claim that the death was an accident that occurred when she was cleaning her gun. At trial, the defense called a character witness who testified that the defendant had a reputation as a peacef...
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Re: Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 12:30:35 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi all, quick question- not sure if i am understanding this right or my brain is just fried already but here is the question: A defendant was charged with the murder of her husband. The defendant intends to claim that the death was an accident that occurred when she was cleaning her gun. At trial, the defense called a character witness who testified that the defendant had a reputation as a peacef...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 12:27:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
so Duke had their best employment numbers while summer class sizes were shrinking? This doom and gloom is baffling to me (2017 grad). Everything I've heard from last year's OCI is that it was easy as shit to get a job. 2019 people with 3.2s got V10 firms that would have never considered them during OCI my year. The economy is doing really well -- please don't scare 2Ls with this. Yeah, you might ...
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practice LSAT scores stalled at 168, need help/advice  
  by: 996ttderm   on: July 22, at 12:22:00 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
My wife is preparing to take the LSAT. We live in Dallas. She has been at it for maybe 9 months now. She needs a 170 or better. She has taken around 35 practice tests. She has taken the Kaplan live course which she said sucked. Apparently the instructor himself scored only in the mid 160s on his LSAT. She also took the LSAT prep class offered at SMU, given down the street from our home. As I recal...
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Evidence - MBE Question  
  by: lilkim12   on: July 22, at 12:19:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi all, quick question- not sure if i am understanding this right or my brain is just fried already but here is the question: A defendant was charged with the murder of her husband. The defendant intends to claim that the death was an accident that occurred when she was cleaning her gun. At trial, the defense called a character witness who testified that the defendant had a reputation as a peacefu...
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Re: Anyone on here a Solo?  
  by: Lawworld19   on: July 22, at 12:15:43 pm   in: Legal Employment
Work at a billable firm, clerked for a judge for the last two years of school. I take the bar next week. Hate the billable job. Anyone go solo and it work out? I am not great at the tech aspects of my job, but I bring in more biz than any other associate revenue wise. (Getting referral business from CPA's etc. I am good at knocking down doors). I want to go solo pretty bad asap, just wondering if...
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: maroon175   on: July 22, at 11:54:14 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Can anyone speak to how cold it gets at MetroWest in Manhattan?
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Lawworld19   on: July 22, at 11:48:16 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

jcwest wrote:Just wanted to say its been a pleasure ladies and gents. Needed the comradery through these past two weeks.

My last two days will be focused studying and relaxation. Turning the internet off. Best of luck to you all.


Give it hell my friend!
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: jcwest   on: July 22, at 11:44:48 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Just wanted to say its been a pleasure ladies and gents. Needed the comradery through these past two weeks.

My last two days will be focused studying and relaxation. Turning the internet off. Best of luck to you all.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: gasfard   on: July 22, at 11:33:02 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
this might be a bit off topic but how cold/warm are the testing centers usually? packing right now and I'm thinking of wearing a t shirt and pants, and bring a zip up hoodie just in case
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 11:32:37 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Blueplanet wrote:On the CA Bar webpage it states "Pencil sharpeners and separate erasers will not be allowed into the examination room" so I was thinking that attached erasers were permitted.

yeah no unfortunately it's part of them testing you to be a lawyer. stupid i know but they want to mimic how in real life you can't just "erase" bad decisions.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Blueplanet   on: July 22, at 11:29:39 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
On the CA Bar webpage it states "Pencil sharpeners and separate erasers will not be allowed into the examination room" so I was thinking that attached erasers were permitted.
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Re: People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: jcwest   on: July 22, at 11:25:22 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This is my first attempt. I'm scoring between 70% - 76% on mixed sets and 75% on the last practice test.

I have gone over every subject AND I still do not feel entirely prepared. At this point, your best bet is to at least get a handle on holder status vs. HDC status, the defenses for both, the basic requirements of a NI, and the defenses to improperly executed NI. Really, its not that hard.
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Re: Anyone on here a Solo?  
  by: Lawworld19   on: July 22, at 11:16:47 am   in: Legal Employment
Work at a billable firm, clerked for a judge for the last two years of school. I take the bar next week. Hate the billable job. Anyone go solo and it work out? I am not great at the tech aspects of my job, but I bring in more biz than any other associate revenue wise. (Getting referral business from CPA's etc. I am good at knocking down doors). I want to go solo pretty bad asap, just wondering if...
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: gasfard   on: July 22, at 11:15:28 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I know that laptop sleeves and cases are not allowed, but are laptop skins fine?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 22, at 11:02:15 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Blueplanet wrote:CA Bar does not permit separate erasers or pencil sharpeners but are you permitted pencils with an eraser on top? Thanks.

No you can't erase on the bar
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Re: Compensation at LA Appellate Boutiques  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 10:51:42 am   in: Legal Employment
Bump, I’m also interested in the above. Any updates Re on the salaries here in general?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Blueplanet   on: July 22, at 10:38:29 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
CA Bar does not permit separate erasers or pencil sharpeners but are you permitted pencils with an eraser on top? Thanks.
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Re: Fordham OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 10:25:16 am   in: Legal Employment
top 10% (also 3.79) / law review -----> 21 interviews

not complaining, but was expecting 25+ based on previous years' threads. i think maybe I underperformed because i have a bunch of PI experience before/during law school pigeonholing me.
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  by: truongnghia33069   on: July 22, at 10:15:12 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
[size=4][size=4] dự án Vinhomes star city [/size] 87,5m2 mặt tiền 7m xây 4,5 tầng, dãy HH5 có giá 5,0 tỷ dự án vinhomes star city 87,5m2 mặt tiền 7m xây 4,5 tầng, dãy HH22 giá chỉ có 4,5 tỷ Cả hai đều là nhà MẶT PHỐ, đều có thể kinh doanh buôn bán giống nhau. Về thiết kế: cả hai đều xây sát hè đường, không có sân trước nhà, không có tường rào hai bên, không có cổng sắt phía trước nhà. Nên việc ki...
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Re: Columbia students taking questions  
  by: GoneSouth   on: July 22, at 10:10:36 am   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Complete speculation, but I think there's a non-zero chance he was let go. I've heard uniformly negative things about him from students who were looking for clerkship advice, and the current dean of SJI didn't hire him. I'm also not sure why there was so much buzz about him shaking up the clerkship program. He had no experience in the field other than clerking himself several years ago. I'm not su...
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Re: Stanford c/o 2020 Transfer  
  by: aaadny   on: July 22, at 10:04:56 am   in: Transfers

aaadny wrote:
lomp123 wrote:My law school sent in my class rank yesterday and I went under review last night, 6/25.
..

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Re: Anyone on here a Solo?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 9:43:40 am   in: Legal Employment
Advertising? Where, how much? Best results are from ____? Anything else in ref to advertising....let 'er rip.
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Denver IP Litigation  
  by: Denlaw123   on: July 22, at 9:24:42 am   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Which Denver law firms have the best IP litigation practices?
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: White Dwarf   on: July 22, at 9:18:43 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
https://www.themisbar.com/pass-rates

3rd column has 75% completion pass rates. I agree that it's kind of pointless, given that you can easily check things off without really engaging with them.
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Re: LA Litigation Market/Best Trial Firms (Latham, GDC, Kirkland?)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 8:31:10 am   in: Legal Employment
Can anyone confirm Quinn ACTUALLY does "plaintiff-work"? ... Aside from their one time swing where they decided to sue the big banks instead of represent them after the housing collapse on contingency, and their occasional securities litigation Plaintiff side, does anyone have any examples of Quinn doing plaintiff work? Would love insight from someone who personally knows or has encount...
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Re: Fordham OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 8:28:39 am   in: Legal Employment
3.79 / Secondary Journal / Comp team

26 interviews
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Re: Fordham OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 8:17:58 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:10 interviews - secondary journal, Moot Court but GPA below 50%

Best of luck, sounds like you did a good job with bidding. What kind of firms?

Weil, Morgan Lewis, Fried Frank, etc.
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Re: University of Illinois C/O 2021 Applicants (2017-2018)  
  by: olemiss18   on: July 22, at 8:17:31 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
In off the waitlist with $$$ and attending UIUC this fall! Got the call July 20th. So excited to join.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 8:14:43 am   in: Legal Employment
Can anyone offer some insight to what a pre-oci cb is like? is it similar to a regular cb, should i expect questions like "what's your greatest weakness" "why this firm" etc? Or is it more just seeing if you're a normal human being who can carry on a conversation? getting nervous for my cb so any insight would be great Yea I’d say it’s like a regular callback. It’s a mix of as...
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: Superbeast   on: July 22, at 8:04:25 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone thinking about February already? We are supposed to be peaking right now but the only thing peaking right now is my doubt :( my last 6-7 MBE PQs have all been mid 70s +/- 2 pts, so thats kinda on auto pilot and im not gonna do much more there...ive been hitting P&E notecards every day for the last week for an hour, so that stuff is burned into my brain already. however, im starting to ...
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 8:03:11 am   in: Legal Employment

BOSStongrl wrote:Can anyone offer some insight to what a pre-oci cb is like? is it similar to a regular cb, should i expect questions like "what's your greatest weakness" "why this firm" etc? Or is it more just seeing if you're a normal human being who can carry on a conversation? getting nervous for my cb so any insight would be great

It’s the same questions.
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Re: Pre-OCI 2018  
  by: BOSStongrl   on: July 22, at 7:59:44 am   in: Legal Employment
Can anyone offer some insight to what a pre-oci cb is like? is it similar to a regular cb, should i expect questions like "what's your greatest weakness" "why this firm" etc? Or is it more just seeing if you're a normal human being who can carry on a conversation? getting nervous for my cb so any insight would be great
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Re: 2018 July DC Bar  
  by: SoCalTacos   on: July 22, at 7:43:04 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

CLSGumbo wrote:I accidentally updated to 10.13.6 on Mac OS. Really hope this doesnt impact exam4

Have you tried opening ExamSoft since then?
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Re: LA Litigation Market/Best Trial Firms (Latham, GDC, Kirkland?)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 22, at 7:41:33 am   in: Legal Employment
LOL, brave anon. Stick your head in the sand if you prefer. Not gonna engage. There's empirical research out there that the revolving door pushes people in government, including AUSA offices to work harder to take scalps. Counterpoint: Eric "too big to jail" Holder. No amount of empirical research will convince me that AGs and AUSAs who are lifelong defenders of corporate criminals will...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 22, at 7:40:33 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

masterherm wrote:Any stats out there for Themis pass rate among people who complete 75+%?

I think it would make way more sense for them to put out stats correlated to performance on practice tests.

As far as statistics goes, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to try and correlate a bunch of disparate and loosely related actions when the whole point of practice tests is to predict how you will do on the exam.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 22, at 7:34:48 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sorry for the double post, but I need to rant somewhere and my wife is probably tired of hearing me rage about how stupid the bar is. Regarding removal, which of the following is FALSE? You Selected: Removal is proper only if the case could have originally been brought by the plaintiff in federal court. When removal is based on diversity jurisdiction, removal is proper only if the case was origin...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: White Dwarf   on: July 22, at 6:44:37 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Omerta wrote:I hate when the questions overgeneralize or when your experience contradicts the bizarro bar jurisdiction interpretations.
Yeah, this has happened several times for me with criminal procedure.

It doesn't help that they're extremely inconsistent with when you're allowed (or even supposed) to make common sense leaps that go beyond the text of the question.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: masterherm   on: July 22, at 5:37:46 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any stats out there for Themis pass rate among people who complete 75+%?
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Re: Already Declined Offer  
  by: RCSOB657   on: July 22, at 4:57:16 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Yeah, respectfully, you're not going to get into those schools this year. Try again next year.
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Re: Anyone on here a Solo?  
  by: AVBucks4239   on: July 22, at 4:28:28 am   in: Legal Employment
Work at a billable firm, clerked for a judge for the last two years of school. I take the bar next week. Hate the billable job. Anyone go solo and it work out? I am not great at the tech aspects of my job, but I bring in more biz than any other associate revenue wise. (Getting referral business from CPA's etc. I am good at knocking down doors). I want to go solo pretty bad asap, just wondering if...
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Re: People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: justanotheruser   on: July 22, at 2:35:48 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I know you're looking for someone to say it's alright, but... this mentality is why I failed the CA bar as many times as I did (5 times). When I finally passed the Feb. 2018 CA bar, it was basically because I covered every subject... although I put more emphasis on some subjects over others.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: FinallyPassedTheBar   on: July 22, at 2:30:21 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Here's my Adaptibar past performance table from last Summer. As you can see, the week before the bar, I slipped on Crim Law, Evidence, Real Property (almost a 15 point percentage drop!), and Torts. But I kept grinding, and managed to bounce back during the last few days before the bar. So keep grinding, you can beat this test!


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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Omerta   on: July 22, at 1:52:03 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sorry for the double post, but I need to rant somewhere and my wife is probably tired of hearing me rage about how stupid the bar is. Regarding removal, which of the following is FALSE? You Selected: Removal is proper only if the case could have originally been brought by the plaintiff in federal court. When removal is based on diversity jurisdiction, removal is proper only if the case was origina...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: Call2222222   on: July 22, at 12:52:20 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
My MBE scores took a hit the last few weeks when I took the bar exam. I was scoring with 70-75% accuracy consistently and then all of a sudden i dropped to 60% on multiple 50 set questions 2 weeks before the exam. I panicked and went right back to reading outlines and the law. That got me back to the 70% range (that’s where you want to be). If you’re scoring below 70% on the mbe you need to go bac...
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Re: People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: dixiecup   on: July 22, at 12:12:48 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Yes, this has happened to many bar takes but it's completely irrelevant to your situation. You want us to tell you it's OK to skip topics, but we can't do that. There's no way we can know what will be on the exam. Even if we had a statistical survey of every topic on the bar exam over the last 20 years, and thus could find the topics that are never covered -- that would STILL not be helpful becaus...
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Re: People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: L_William_W   on: July 21, at 11:43:53 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm planning to leave conflicts and commercial paper (too complicated and not worth it). Im pretty sure I don't remember a whole lot of shit from the other essay subjects. I spent too much time on the MBE and i still feel like a lot of the rules/ specifics leak out of my brain when I'm asleep. I'm revising right now and I legit feel like a lot of this stuff I just didnt remember before now despit...
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Re: People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: L_William_W   on: July 21, at 11:41:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm planning to leave conflicts and commercial paper (too complicated and not worth it). Im pretty sure I don't remember a whole lot of shit from the other essay subjects. I spent too much time on the MBE and i still feel like a lot of the rules/ specifics leak out of my brain when I'm asleep. I'm revising right now and I legit feel like a lot of this stuff I just didnt remember before now despit...
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Already Declined Offer  
  by: maddie99   on: July 21, at 11:40:16 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
I received 3 acceptances and 3 waitlist statuses for Fall 2018. I didn't want to go to any of the schools I got into, so I declined all of their offers. It's now late July and I haven't heard from any of the schools I was waitlisted at, even after sending letters of continued interest. My question is, is it ridiculous to reach out to one of the schools I rejected and ask if I may still attend? I k...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Omerta   on: July 21, at 11:22:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
This is just my .02, but the best way to spend the last couple days (if you've already studied a bunch) is to spend a couple hours for the MBE hitting the stuff you're disproportionately bad at and, for the essays, structuring to make sure you don't leave out whole topics. I like to condense each set to a series of questions, which helps me make sure that I hit everything. For instance, here's wha...
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: Guccifer91   on: July 21, at 10:35:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone thinking about February already? We are supposed to be peaking right now but the only thing peaking right now is my doubt :( my last 6-7 MBE PQs have all been mid 70s +/- 2 pts, so thats kinda on auto pilot and im not gonna do much more there...ive been hitting P&E notecards every day for the last week for an hour, so that stuff is burned into my brain already. however, im starting to ...
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Re: People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: tiffannybrown   on: July 21, at 10:31:51 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Everyone feels like this, don't let yourself get in the way of you (is that the saying? my brain is fried too) I don't think leaving out some topics is so bad, you can't know everything on this exam. But i would suggest not leaving out COL- it is really simple (there are legit 4 rules) if you know them you can BS anything down. I can even email you my 6 page outline (3 double sided) if you want. I...
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Re: People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: funkenstein   on: July 21, at 10:26:38 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
not my personal experience so take it for what it's worth.

My friend, who I have to admit is very smart and studied really hard during law school, said she procrastinated studying for the bar and never even got to a few subjects but she still passed.
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Re: State & Local?  
  by: nixy   on: July 21, at 10:15:35 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
The anons didn't say they were going to UMN, that was the OP, who isn't anon.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: barprepforca   on: July 21, at 10:10:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I have been all over the map with mine. On adaptibar i'm right at 60% but ive been focusing on my worst subjects so im on pace to do better than that on the test. Then on the most recent set of barbri MBE questions I got 71%, 71%, 74%, and then 43% today so I freaked out and went back to adaptibar and got a 61% on exclusively property questions which is my hardest subject. I have no idea what's go...
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People who passed the bar before - did you leave something completely w/o studying and still pass  
  by: bigLexcited   on: July 21, at 9:57:43 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm planning to leave conflicts and commercial paper (too complicated and not worth it). Im pretty sure I don't remember a whole lot of shit from the other essay subjects. I spent too much time on the MBE and i still feel like a lot of the rules/ specifics leak out of my brain when I'm asleep. I'm revising right now and I legit feel like a lot of this stuff I just didnt remember before now despite...
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Re: State & Local?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 9:50:20 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
In sum I would only do most state clerkships if (1) I really wanted to do trial work and (2) I didn't have a good firm job lined up. (3) You are not a U.S. citizen. Quoted anon, I actually am also an immigrant. I'm not sure if you are saying that you should only do them if you meet 1, 2, & 3 or 1, 2, or 3. But just because you are not a US citizen is not a good enough reason to do a state cle...
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Re: Completely self editing writing sample?  
  by: Puffman1234   on: July 21, at 9:45:45 pm   in: Judicial Clerkships
You don't have a single pre-other-person's-edits draft of any order you wrote that, if unsatisfactory to you now, you could edit to better reflect your presumably more-advanced abilities today? I clerked for a fed d.ct judge. My writing sample I used for the job search later was just a 100%-mine draft of an order that I edited (at the time of putting my applications together) to better reflect my ...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: midtrains   on: July 21, at 9:33:44 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Has anyone broken down how terribly we can do on the MEE if we do well on the MPT (assuming a decent MBE)? Feeling completely overwhelmed by the MEE right now. There's this chart for NY (266 UBE), you just have to be above the curve so any combination of percentiles that'll put you there. Of course who knows what dumb score that is but it's making me feel better because I only need a 260 https://...
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Re: Civ Pro Joinder Q  
  by: tiffannybrown   on: July 21, at 9:29:41 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
The Federal Ct doesn't need to have SJM over supplemental claims. In order for a Fed Court to have supplemental Jurisdiction over a claim, the claim must: 1. Be from the same transaction/occurence + 2. Not be included in the limitation (plaintiffs in diversity cases- cannot add claims if they destroy diversity.) Here this claim is the claim of a TP not the plaintiff (so the limitation doesn't exis...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Pajsa18   on: July 21, at 9:27:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

CBlaw wrote:Well folks I am traveling to my bar location tommorow morning. I likely will be done with this thread. With that said, Good Luck to everyone!! We got this!!

Good luck and safe travels!
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: White Dwarf   on: July 21, at 9:19:54 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Has anyone broken down how terribly we can do on the MEE if we do well on the MPT (assuming a decent MBE)?

Feeling completely overwhelmed by the MEE right now.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: 1Abimrdjur3   on: July 21, at 9:03:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
2 CA Evidence Questions if anyone can help: 1) Page 12 of the CA lecture notes that in a criminal case a "witness's" character can be bolstered without any attempt to impeach with reputation, opinion, and specific acts; the main outline just says criminal "defendant" - anyone know if it works for any witness or if just the defendant? 2) For public records, can police records be...
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Re: Examplify Error  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: July 21, at 8:57:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Findedeux wrote:Yeah, I gave them a call.

Apparently it's a known bug.

They had me remove a file.

Also, the program is now at version 1.6 but when I downloaded it was 1.5

weird, I just certified the laptop a couple of days ago (redownloaded the latest version) and it's still 1.5.4.
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Re: Is Adaptibar worth it/really helpful?  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: July 21, at 8:55:29 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Guys, just for simplicity: get your Adaptibar referral's here: viewtopic.php?f=41&t=288509
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: July 21, at 8:48:03 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thanks everyone! Do you guys think its better if i just buy the 201 new questions even though i have adaptibar? If you already have Adaptibar I wouldn't just because Adaptibar has them with explanations (even if most of the time crappy explanations, but it's better than none). If you want to practice only new questions, just make the program show the question number and do all the questions numbe...
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: July 21, at 8:45:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Adaptibar has refused to provide me with information as to which of the civ pro questions are the newly released ones. Have any of you figured out which ones they are or know how to figure it out? It would be annoying to have to purchase them from NCBE when they are already in adaptibar. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! If you're using a computer, fake questions are labeled 'simulated' and ...
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Re: Fordham OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 8:29:04 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:10 interviews - secondary journal, Moot Court but GPA below 50%

Best of luck, sounds like you did a good job with bidding. What kind of firms?
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: arose928   on: July 21, at 8:07:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am actually really concerned that I did not practice more than 2 MPTS during the whole course - one persuasive and the other and objective memo. Is this going to be a big problem? Should I do some tomorrow maybe? I don't really feel prepared for the MPT because I always feel like I mess up the structuring or something, so I spent a couple hours today looking through all the sample MPTs Themis p...
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: Ramonlivliv   on: July 21, at 8:02:24 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Sorry, this might be a noob question. I'm taking the CA bar and got a 130/200 on the Kaplan Final. The instructor said for scaling purposes to add 20 points, which would mean 150. Does that mean my scaled MBE for CA would be roughly a 1500? I would like to know so I can use the calculator that's posted above. Thanks. For true scaling purposes, as I mention above, in J17, a 115 raw MBE (66% correc...
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: Pneumonia   on: July 21, at 7:43:45 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Why is Harvard's federal clerkship rate lower than SLS? Could it be that more HLS students choose to work for a year or two before applying for a clerkship? The rate is lower because the HLS has 3x the students. Why does this affect clerking? Larger classes, fewer personal connections with professors, etc. I think a smaller percentage of students at HLS are interested in clerking too. SLS/YLS hav...
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: Superbeast   on: July 21, at 7:40:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone thinking about February already? We are supposed to be peaking right now but the only thing peaking right now is my doubt :( my last 6-7 MBE PQs have all been mid 70s +/- 2 pts, so thats kinda on auto pilot and im not gonna do much more there...ive been hitting P&E notecards every day for the last week for an hour, so that stuff is burned into my brain already. however, im starting to ...
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Civ Pro Joinder Q  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 21, at 7:38:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
A developer contracted with a general contractor to build an office building, and completion of the building was two years late. The developer filed a breach of contract action in federal district court against the general contractor, seeking damages caused by the delay. The developer is a citizen of State A, and the general contractor is a citizen of State B. The general contractor filed a third-...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: jcwest   on: July 21, at 7:32:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I do not know what the CPT is but if its like the MPT... I too have only done two. Got an 83% on the graded and have not looked back. There is so much I do not know that I have decided to stop caring and trust I know enough to pass. Minimum competency folks. I'll be putting in 8 hours tomorrow and probably 6-8 on Monday because I can't not but I stopped at 4 today... which was still 7 hours. Felt ...
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Re: Is Adaptibar worth it/really helpful?  
  by: carcollector   on: July 21, at 7:31:16 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I would also love a discount code, please: quitlater1@gmail.com
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: Guccifer91   on: July 21, at 7:11:02 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone thinking about February already? We are supposed to be peaking right now but the only thing peaking right now is my doubt
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: Guccifer91   on: July 21, at 7:09:43 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
can someone explain what it means for the MPT, P&E, Essays to be scaled to the MBE? I know everyone usually says there's a 10-15 point bump to your raw MBE score...does this mean we also get bumps on our MPT/P&E/Essay? found an answer: Ignoring for a moment equating (which seeks to adjust for difficulty from exam to exam) and the general downward trend in MBE scores, each section will hav...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 7:08:59 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:kinda surprised at how nonselective Kirkland is at Duke. I’ve had friends at peer schools tell me they’re much more selective there.
We're peers?!
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 21, at 7:06:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I'm trying to learn Wills and Trusts.

Basically, have only done the lectures.

Then I have to outline a thousand essays, take practice exam #4, review all mbe subjects, and then outline half a dozen MPTs.


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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 21, at 7:03:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am actually really concerned that I did not practice more than 2 MPTS during the whole course - one persuasive and the other and objective memo. Is this going to be a big problem? Should I do some tomorrow maybe? I couldn't get the effort up to practice CPT to be honest. I outlined two quickly, and then on the graded one I got 70/100 (for whatever Themis graders are worth). They honestly felt p...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: florida2015   on: July 21, at 7:02:39 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Anyone else only taking the FL part and worried about getting completely screwed over by the board? Also, does anyone have any advice regarding lunch? I heard there isn’t much nearby. For a quick lunch, hit up Jackson's Bistro or the Waterside Grill at the Marriott. Or you can try to catch something at The Sail Pavilion if it isn't packed with people. I would pack a lunch and/or grab something on...
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Did anyone update their Examplify from v 1.5 to 1.6?  
  by: Cop2lawyerNYC   on: July 21, at 6:57:46 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
It keeps prompting me to update but when I click on it nothing happens. After 30 minutes it’s still at 10% downloaded.
I just aborted and figured I’d use the old version. Not sure if this will cause any problems.
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Re: Government from NY vs DC biglaw  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: July 21, at 6:53:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
Assuming for the sake of argument that you have no ties to anything and are making this decision in a vacuum, dc is clearly the credited play for your specific goals. I suppose I’m just not sure how anybody could really argue otherwise, but fire away (that’s why we are all here,right?).
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: miro   on: July 21, at 6:53:28 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I took the Barbri simulation there, and I (and other people) thought it was pretty warm. (I tend to get cold fairly easily too.) Granted, it was 90-something degrees that day, but whatever A/C system or fans they have seems to be on the weak side.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Tala29   on: July 21, at 6:48:47 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am actually really concerned that I did not practice more than 2 MPTS during the whole course - one persuasive and the other and objective memo.

Is this going to be a big problem? Should I do some tomorrow maybe?
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Re: Government from NY vs DC biglaw  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 6:35:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anecdotal - I was at a government agency this summer, and some of the attorneys came from NY and CA. Most from DC, naturally, but qualified is qualified.
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Re: Columbia students taking questions  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 21, at 6:33:29 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
What happened to Victor Caldwell? Asked some classmates who are looking to clerk, no one knows. I'm gonna guess it took him about 5 minutes to see that the whole situation was a dumpster fire and stayed a respectable amount of time before getting out. Holy crap, he's gone? I remember people hoping he was going to turn it around. I... think so...? Either that or he's on the way out. That's what I'...
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Re: Stanford Optional Essay Questions  
  by: ballinlikejokic   on: July 21, at 6:33:26 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Applying this year, does anyone have an idea whether the essays from last year will be the same for this year?
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Re: Examplify Error  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 21, at 6:32:17 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Yeah, I gave them a call.

Apparently it's a known bug.

They had me remove a file.

Also, the program is now at version 1.6 but when I downloaded it was 1.5
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 6:31:40 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:kinda surprised at how nonselective Kirkland is at Duke. I’ve had friends at peer schools tell me they’re much more selective there.

Well, it differs by city a lot. Compare NY and DC.

I agree NY is oddly low GPA.
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Re: Columbia students taking questions  
  by: BrainsyK   on: July 21, at 6:30:43 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
What happened to Victor Caldwell? Asked some classmates who are looking to clerk, no one knows. I'm gonna guess it took him about 5 minutes to see that the whole situation was a dumpster fire and stayed a respectable amount of time before getting out. Holy crap, he's gone? I remember people hoping he was going to turn it around. I... think so...? Either that or he's on the way out. That's what I'...
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Re: A quick question about OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 6:29:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Yes, contact him. You could get an interview anyway. Or nothing . . . no harm done indeed, and it shows interest.

You unfortunately did not get an interview through OCI but are curious if it’s possible in some other way.
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Re: July 2018 Texas Bar Exam  
  by: Superbeast   on: July 21, at 6:28:28 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
can someone explain what it means for the MPT, P&E, Essays to be scaled to the MBE? I know everyone usually says there's a 10-15 point bump to your raw MBE score...does this mean we also get bumps on our MPT/P&E/Essay? found an answer: Ignoring for a moment equating (which seeks to adjust for difficulty from exam to exam) and the general downward trend in MBE scores, each section will have...
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Re: Columbia students taking questions  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 21, at 6:27:18 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

BrainsyK wrote:
GoneSouth wrote:What happened to Victor Caldwell?

Asked some classmates who are looking to clerk, no one knows. I'm gonna guess it took him about 5 minutes to see that the whole situation was a dumpster fire and stayed a respectable amount of time before getting out.
Holy crap, he's gone? I remember people hoping he was going to turn it around.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 21, at 6:25:43 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
anybody else feel unprepared but also feel like they no longer care?

At 97.5% completion. Have 3 more essays that themis recommends we outline. I should probably write them out in full but I kind of don't care anymore.
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Re: Columbia students taking questions  
  by: BrainsyK   on: July 21, at 6:17:58 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

GoneSouth wrote:What happened to Victor Caldwell?

Asked some classmates who are looking to clerk, no one knows. I'm gonna guess it took him about 5 minutes to see that the whole situation was a dumpster fire and stayed a respectable amount of time before getting out.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: unsweetened   on: July 21, at 6:13:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
At this point I am more concerned with memorizing as much as I can for MEE questions.
I crunched all the essay pq's down to one page statements of law and have grouped them together, then crunched them down even more. Hopefully that' a good strategy.
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Re: Columbia students taking questions  
  by: GoneSouth   on: July 21, at 6:12:45 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
What happened to Victor Caldwell?
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Re: Lateral in Philly - Salary Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 6:03:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
Pepper’s being way below pay-scale is baffling. Not only because Dechert/Morgan pays market but due to Philly's sky-high COL. PA’s property taxes are also unbelievably high (unless you use NJ as a comparison). Philly also hits you with city tax. I’ve heard good things about Pepper, but their pay and hours aren’t one of them. I advise anyone seriously considering Philly to stay away from Pepper. I...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 5:59:48 pm   in: Legal Employment
To my knowledge, NALP (not the ABA) is the entity that conducts research into entry-level law firm hiring. Their takeaway on the 2017 recruiting cycle is that it did not materially differ from the ‘15 and ‘16 cycles. The report below shows virtually identical numbers of SAs and offer conversion rates, with what they identify as generally flat numbers year over year. https://www.nalp.org/uploads/Pe...
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Re: A quick question about OCI  
  by: BrainsyK   on: July 21, at 5:56:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
Contact him anyway, if you contact and he helps, you get a screener. If you contact and he doesn't help, no harm done. If you don't contact, he can't help anyway.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: justanotheruser   on: July 21, at 5:52:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Pretty sure I had a few mixed MBE practice sets in the last 2 weeks before the exam where I scored below 70% several times, including as low as 63%. Still passed the bar and got over 150+ on the MBE. Hang in there, push through, review answers to make sure you're not missing any details, etc. Good luck! My MBE scores have dropped a lot these past couple of days. I just did a 50 question mixed set ...
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Re: Fordham OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 5:51:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
10 interviews - secondary journal, Moot Court but GPA below 50%
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A quick question about OCI  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 5:49:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
A partner told me to contact him if I get a screener when I attended the firm reception. But I did not get one through the OCI lottery even though I ranked the firm in my top 15. What should I do now? Should I reach out? Thanks!
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: CBlaw   on: July 21, at 5:46:23 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Well folks I am traveling to my bar location tommorow morning. I likely will be done with this thread. With that said, Good Luck to everyone!! We got this!!
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Re: From 134 hit 160. Any Suggestions on how to Keep Improving?  
  by: LSAT_Ninja_Tutor   on: July 21, at 5:46:06 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Bravo on your progress! I get excited when I see improvement like this. Way to go on your 160! Do not downplay it because it was PT 3. Your performance on PT 3 is just as indicative of your ability as your performance on PT 80. The LSAT is very good at testing what it is designed to test, so all PTs are relevant. What was the section breakdown for how many you missed on your PT 3? P.S. You will se...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: BlueLaw11   on: July 21, at 5:43:37 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is anyone else still encountering new MBE concepts they have never before encountered? I'm on set 19 and I just got 3 questions in a row on things I have never even heard of before. This is freaking me tf out for Wednesday yeah but I assume it's more of a matter of them having saved the obscure exceptions for the end rather than you not knowing enough to do ok on the real thing That's a good poin...
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Re: From 134 hit 160. Any Suggestions on how to Keep Improving?  
  by: LSAT_Ninja_Tutor   on: July 21, at 5:40:54 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Bravo on your progress! I get excited when I see improvement like this. Way to go on your 160! Do not downplay it because it was PT 3. Your performance on PT 3 is just as indicative of your ability as your performance on PT 80. The LSAT is very good at testing what it is designed to test, so all PTs are relevant. What was the section breakdown for how many you missed on your PT 3? P.S. You will se...
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: DrainTheNCBEswamp   on: July 21, at 5:36:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Thanks everyone! Do you guys think its better if i just buy the 201 new questions even though i have adaptibar?
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: RecruiterMan   on: July 21, at 5:31:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

BlueLaw11 wrote:Is anyone else still encountering new MBE concepts they have never before encountered? I'm on set 19 and I just got 3 questions in a row on things I have never even heard of before. This is freaking me tf out for Wednesday
yeah but I assume it's more of a matter of them having saved the obscure exceptions for the end rather than you not knowing enough to do ok on the real thing
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: BlueLaw11   on: July 21, at 5:28:30 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is anyone else still encountering new MBE concepts they have never before encountered? I'm on set 19 and I just got 3 questions in a row on things I have never even heard of before. This is freaking me tf out for Wednesday
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Re: Examplify Error  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 21, at 5:26:08 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

dabigchina wrote:Mine is working too. Try uninstalling/deleting and reinstalling from scratch from teh website.

Don't do that. Call examplify. I'm pretty sure when I was downloading the program, it said something about "make sure this is the computer you're gonna use because you can only download examplify once"
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Re: Examplify Error  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 21, at 5:24:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Mine is working too. Try uninstalling/deleting and reinstalling from scratch from teh website.
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Re: Examplify Error  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 21, at 5:22:25 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Just checked, mine is working fine
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Re: Difference between Hearsay Exclusions and Hearsay Exceptions  
  by: tiffannybrown   on: July 21, at 5:20:29 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I think if you think of them in a criminal context, it is easier to understand. (Although they are applicable in civil cases too). The hearsay exclusions are statements that are direct evidence of the defendant's guilt, so it doesn't matter if they are said out of ct, the ct wants to hear them. They are COPPP Co-conspirators (statements by co-conspirators) made during a conspiracy in furtherance o...
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Examplify Error  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 21, at 5:17:38 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
My examplify says it needs to update and won't launch.

Anyone else having this problem?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 21, at 5:17:36 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

lokikoala wrote:So if you signed up for laptop testing, do you even bring your laptop for MBE(wed) or is that all pencil/handwritten?

Also, you're just supposed to bring your laptop on day 1 solo not in anything. Even a laptop case? I mean, that's what the instructions seem to say but feels a little ridiculous.

Lol, I mean...you can't even bring a separate eraser...so no case doesn't seem unusual.
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Re: Difference between Hearsay Exclusions and Hearsay Exceptions  
  by: EncyclopediaOrange   on: July 21, at 5:15:05 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hearsay exclusions are definitionally not hearsay. They can be offered for any purpose that comports with the other rules of evidence. Hearsay exceptions allow evidence that is definitionally hearsay to be offered for the truth of the matter asserted.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lokikoala   on: July 21, at 5:11:22 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
So if you signed up for laptop testing, do you even bring your laptop for MBE(wed) or is that all pencil/handwritten?

Also, you're just supposed to bring your laptop on day 1 solo not in anything. Even a laptop case? I mean, that's what the instructions seem to say but feels a little ridiculous.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: RickRawse   on: July 21, at 5:09:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Does anyone know if there's a safe number of mixed sets you should get through before feeling a little safe? Just got through 11 plus the 100-question set and then PT4 destroyed me.
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 5:08:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
kinda surprised at how nonselective Kirkland is at Duke. I’ve had friends at peer schools tell me they’re much more selective there.
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Re: Horror Story...Yet Still Passed?  
  by: max_p   on: July 21, at 5:00:21 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Somehow this thread just makes me anxious – everyone freaking out over a single botched essay. Are people going into this legit expecting to 100% know the law on all essays/issues? My impression was that with a slightly better than average MBE score you could take a dump on your laptop and submit that in lieu of an essay. Somewhat true. But remember that the majority of people will not have an ab...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: psg190   on: July 21, at 4:55:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
For those who have already taken the exam, are we allowed to bring our stuff in a backpack, or do we have to keep everything in one of those gallon-sized zip locks like for the LSAT. This includes things like laptop, lunch, pencil, etc. Thanks! Everything needs to be in a clear bag. Backpack and lunch stay outside. http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Admissions/Examinations/Exam-Rules I think we can bring a...
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: JusTrynnaPass   on: July 21, at 4:47:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I remember this Adaptibar question. I think I had a mini-heart attack thinking I needed to learn what specific rights/laws existed at the birth of the Seventh Amendment and the intentions of our founding fathers. The sample released questions from the NCBE don't seem to be anything close to this.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: smile0751   on: July 21, at 4:44:56 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I was looking at Con law questions for my state and one of them was about basically redrawing school district lines in a city to have a more equal representation of races among the schools in the district. How would I answer a question like this? Can you apply racial gerrymandering rules to this, or would I just answer it like an affirmative action question and apply strict scrutiny? I think this...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: maiden42   on: July 21, at 4:44:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
For those who have already taken the exam, are we allowed to bring our stuff in a backpack, or do we have to keep everything in one of those gallon-sized zip locks like for the LSAT. This includes things like laptop, lunch, pencil, etc. Thanks! Everything needs to be in a clear bag. Backpack and lunch stay outside. http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Admissions/Examinations/Exam-Rules I think we can bring a...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: bananaphone   on: July 21, at 4:43:29 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

deacon wrote:I am very confused about Rule 20 permissive joinder and Rule 24 intervenor. Seems like both are joining plaintiffs. Could anyone explain me what the real difference is?

Interveners have to satisfy the same diversity/amount requirements as a normal plaintiff, but permissive joinder can happen even if the amount of controversy is not enough.
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: maiden42   on: July 21, at 4:42:53 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
FYI...... as always, worth what you paid for them (unless you were one of the people that paid $395, then it's worth nothing).

https://barexamguru.com/2018/07/21/pred ... repeaters/
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: deacon   on: July 21, at 4:35:55 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I am very confused about Rule 20 permissive joinder and Rule 24 intervenor. Seems like both are joining plaintiffs. Could anyone explain me what the real difference is?
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Re: Commercial Paper  
  by: Ultramar vistas   on: July 21, at 4:32:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Commercial paper has been my nemesis and I am making a last-ditch effort to understand it. What I am struggling to understand is when you would sue under a contract theory versus a warranty theory? According to the LeanSheets for Commercial Paper, if you are stuck at the "end of the line" with a defective instrument and want to sue "up the chain" to recover your money, whether...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 21, at 4:31:28 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

Findedeux wrote:I just finished session 6 (really annoying question about intended third party beneficiaries and detrimental reliance re suing on breach of K) and noticed that the goal was 70%.

How high does the goal get at the end of the sessions?

I think it's 70 throughout.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Findedeux   on: July 21, at 4:27:40 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I just finished session 6 (really annoying question about intended third party beneficiaries and detrimental reliance re suing on breach of K) and noticed that the goal was 70%.

How high does the goal get at the end of the sessions?
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Georgia essay topic predictions?  
  by: Azov   on: July 21, at 4:24:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I haven't had a chance to do an analysis of recent essay topics on the Georgia exam. Does anyone have any predictions as to what's likely to come up on the exam? Thanks in advance for any input!
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Itwasascam   on: July 21, at 4:22:13 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is it too early to stop studying
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Re: 2018 PLIP  
  by: PotatoSalad   on: July 21, at 4:21:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Finnegan on Thursday night... Full suit to go bowling or business casual? Went last year. Definitely do not show up for bowling in a suit. I think smart casual is the right call for the bowling if my memory serves. Although you might be influenced by other events (I went straight from a Latham happy hour to Finnegan bowling last year). I don't remember any of the actual attorneys wearing suits. I...
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 21, at 4:18:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Adaptibar has refused to provide me with information as to which of the civ pro questions are the newly released ones. Have any of you figured out which ones they are or know how to figure it out? It would be annoying to have to purchase them from NCBE when they are already in adaptibar. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! If you're using a computer, fake questions are labeled 'simulated' and ...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Great45   on: July 21, at 4:16:36 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. Guy didn't respond to me. Not really sure I understand why set 17 would randomly be the same acro...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: jawaharlaw nehru   on: July 21, at 4:13:09 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Must vary by state then. Would still guess that the 100-question set is consistent for everyone, but I don't have anything to back that up.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: smile0751   on: July 21, at 4:11:16 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. Guy didn't respond to me. Not really sure I understand why set 17 would randomly be the same acro...
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Re: Mbe Scoring  
  by: CLSGumbo   on: July 21, at 4:04:30 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

JoeSeperac wrote:


Joe, could you explain why on your UBE calculator for DC/Alabama/Colorado which use the 6 point scoring system, there can be such a huge difference between passing for the same MBE and essay grades? For example, getting all 3's in the Colorado MEE/MPT will reach 266 but getting all 3's in DC/Alabama would not, assuming a 133 MBE
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: July 21, at 3:48:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Adaptibar has refused to provide me with information as to which of the civ pro questions are the newly released ones. Have any of you figured out which ones they are or know how to figure it out? It would be annoying to have to purchase them from NCBE when they are already in adaptibar. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! If you're using a computer, fake questions are labeled 'simulated' and ...
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Re: Duke OCI 2018  
  by: Anonymous User   on: July 21, at 3:45:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
so Duke had their best employment numbers while summer class sizes were shrinking? This doom and gloom is baffling to me (2017 grad). Everything I've heard from last year's OCI is that it was easy as shit to get a job. 2019 people with 3.2s got V10 firms that would have never considered them during OCI my year. The economy is doing really well -- please don't scare 2Ls with this. Yeah, you might ...
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Difference between Hearsay Exclusions and Hearsay Exceptions  
  by: Nightcrawler   on: July 21, at 3:44:31 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
If you had to explain it to a 5 year old, what's the difference between hearsay exclusions and exceptions? I know they are in two different FRE articles, but why? Is there any policy reason/rationale behind this? I know it's not crucial for the exam but I just want to understand it just so it may all click more. Thanks.
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Re: New York Bar July 2018  
  by: purpleyrain   on: July 21, at 3:39:33 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Also, I know this is a stupid question but how cold does it get at the Armory? I tend to get cold really easily. Like 2 hours at a starbucks in August and I have on a sweatshirt and a fleece jacket and long pants when everyone else has a t-shirt and shorts. Are we only allowed sweaters and sweatshirts and no jackets?
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 21, at 3:36:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. Guy didn't respond to me. Not really sure I understand why set 17 would randomly be the same acro...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: jawaharlaw nehru   on: July 21, at 3:34:42 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. Guy didn't respond to me. Not really sure I understand why set 17 would randomly be the same acro...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Auxilio   on: July 21, at 3:29:48 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. Guy didn't respond to me. Not really sure I understand why set 17 would randomly be the same acro...
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Re: Does working during 2 gap years between HS and college count as work experience?  
  by: nylon_law   on: July 21, at 3:29:02 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Hi. You do not need work experience to apply to law school. It is more of a requirement for an MBA. However, if you submatriculate at a business school, like Wharton, and earn an MBA in conjunction with your undergraduate degree you do not need the suggested work experience. I hope this helps.
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: dabigchina   on: July 21, at 3:28:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. Guy didn't respond to me. Not really sure I understand why set 17 would randomly be the same acro...
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: estefanchanning   on: July 21, at 3:16:49 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Adaptibar has refused to provide me with information as to which of the civ pro questions are the newly released ones. Have any of you figured out which ones they are or know how to figure it out? It would be annoying to have to purchase them from NCBE when they are already in adaptibar. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! If you're using a computer, fake questions are labeled 'simulated' and ...
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Re: Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: Atmosphere   on: July 21, at 3:16:26 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Preety sure they’re all simulated
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Commercial Paper  
  by: Sojourner2   on: July 21, at 2:50:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Commercial paper has been my nemesis and I am making a last-ditch effort to understand it. What I am struggling to understand is when you would sue under a contract theory versus a warranty theory? According to the LeanSheets for Commercial Paper, if you are stuck at the "end of the line" with a defective instrument and want to sue "up the chain" to recover your money, whether ...
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: jcwest   on: July 21, at 2:47:50 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. I haven't done 17, but I did 18 and I did really bad on it, like 56%. I'm averaging about mid 60'...
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Anyone know how to tell which civ pro questions in adaptibar are real?  
  by: DrainTheNCBEswamp   on: July 21, at 2:44:11 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Adaptibar has refused to provide me with information as to which of the civ pro questions are the newly released ones. Have any of you figured out which ones they are or know how to figure it out? It would be annoying to have to purchase them from NCBE when they are already in adaptibar. Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!
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Re: Is January 2019 too late?  
  by: LSAT_Ninja_Tutor   on: July 21, at 2:36:27 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
For some schools, January test scores will not be released in time. Check websites for admission deadlines. For those schools that have a later deadline, technically, January is not too late, but it does not put you in the best possible position for admission. Why? Law schools have rolling admissions. They review applications as they come in. The ideal situation would be to have your application c...
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Re: AUGUST 2018 - MPRE DISCUSSION  
  by: GFox345   on: July 21, at 2:35:03 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Don't you mean August 11, or do they administer the MPRE on Sundays in some jurisdictions? I am studying for it now.
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Re: Harvard Student(s) Answering Your Questions  
  by: Veil of Ignorance   on: July 21, at 2:21:34 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Why is Harvard's federal clerkship rate lower than SLS? Could it be that more HLS students choose to work for a year or two before applying for a clerkship?
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: psg190   on: July 21, at 2:16:08 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum

lawyer786 wrote:For those who have already taken the exam, are we allowed to bring our stuff in a backpack, or do we have to keep everything in one of those gallon-sized zip locks like for the LSAT. This includes things like laptop, lunch, pencil, etc. Thanks!
Everything needs to be in a clear bag. Backpack and lunch stay outside.

http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Admissions/Exa ... Exam-Rules
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: Great45   on: July 21, at 2:06:46 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Any confirmation that Mixed Set 17 was the same across the board for everyone? Did well enough (I guess) on 17, but did 18 right after and COMPLETELY BLEW IT. I was thinking of just swearing off MBE questions until exam day, but I can't let that be my last performance ahead of the exam, can I? Yikes. I haven't done 17, but I did 18 and I did really bad on it, like 56%. I'm averaging about mid 60'...
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Re: 2018 July California Bar  
  by: lawyer786   on: July 21, at 2:05:30 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
For those who have already taken the exam, are we allowed to bring our stuff in a backpack, or do we have to keep everything in one of those gallon-sized zip locks like for the LSAT. This includes things like laptop, lunch, pencil, etc. Thanks!
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Re: THEMIS JULY 2018 - DISCUSSION  
  by: MGH1989   on: July 21, at 2:00:20 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I was looking at Con law questions for my state and one of them was about basically redrawing school district lines in a city to have a more equal representation of races among the schools in the district. How would I answer a question like this? Can you apply racial gerrymandering rules to this, or would I just answer it like an affirmative action question and apply strict scrutiny?
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