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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 15, at 1:17:31 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Just out of curiosity, does everyone who submits an application get a request for a written statement?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=223986

Re: Can schools know your race/ethnicity  
  by: dvlthndr   on: November 15, at 12:05:59 am   in: Law School Personal Statements
To quote from LSAC: Some law schools are not permitted by state law to inquire about a candidate's race or ethnicity. However, many still do, and this information is one of many factors a law school may consider when reviewing your application. The applications usually have questions about your ethnicity... whether or not it is "optional" may depend. Also, it's not something schools woul...
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Can schools know your race/ethnicity  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:41:29 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Just curious can law schools know your race/ethnicity? Given that you didn't mention it in PS or DS. Say, if I am from a somehow overrepresented ethnicity group (Chinese), and I mentioned that in my PS, is it rather better not to mention it at all? My PS is not about my culture background, though one aspect of my PS somehow marginally relates to my culture identity. BTW, it is irrelevant but is it...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Moabit   on: November 14, at 11:09:17 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi I am new to this forum and had a question in regards to the moral character application here in California. I am an out of state attorney who moved here three years ago and am taking my bar exam this February. I was unsuccessful last year. I put in my moral character application exactly June 30, 2019 and online it only shows submitted. It does not show under review or anything like that. I hav...
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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?  
  by: dyemond   on: November 14, at 10:51:30 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Junior associate with a 3 rating and between 2700-2800 hours. 1.9x Cravath.

They're not out yet.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=260836

Re: Nashville Legal Market  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 10:35:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would try cross-posting in this thread to try to make sure some old Nashville posters see your question (not too many on here so they might miss your post) http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298127&p=10400932&hilit=Nashville#p10400932 Sorry I am don't have much info on the Nashville market (it's new for me too) and lifestyle of different firms. You will see th...
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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?  
  by: dlutfy   on: November 14, at 10:34:43 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Junior associate with a 3 rating and between 2700-2800 hours. 1.9x Cravath.

So you worked potentially 800 more hours than a normal firm for an extra 15k.

$18.75 an hour. Wowzers.
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Re: UBE/Colorado Bar  
  by: theswisswereright   on: November 14, at 10:13:14 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I took the UBE this July. I had taken Secured Transactions... and it didn’t even show up on the MEE. I liked the class because the professor was fun, but I don’t know if I’d take it JUST for the bar exam. It made studying that subject easier, but it’s only one out of several that are potential essay topics that aren’t on the MBE. My advice would be to take Property. It was hell learning that the f...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 9:08:52 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
How did you all handle thank you notes? I didn’t receive any of my interviewers’ names in advance or a business card after, and I interviewed with several people. Remembered some of their names but not others. Ended up not sending thank you notes, but I’m not sure if they were expected.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=302474

Re: Kirkland Bonuses?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:38:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Junior associate with a 3 rating and between 2700-2800 hours. 1.9x Cravath.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=260836

Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:06:59 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi I am new to this forum and had a question in regards to the moral character application here in California. I am an out of state attorney who moved here three years ago and am taking my bar exam this February. I was unsuccessful last year. I put in my moral character application exactly June 30, 2019 and online it only shows submitted. It does not show under review or anything like that. I hav...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278929

Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 14, at 6:44:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
Whether it's worth the money is subjective. Sometimes the amount of work after the jump is similar or varies by an inconsequential amount (lots of boutiques/midlaw firms make a lot of noise about "lifestyle" but tend not to be that different from biglaw firms in the same city re: hours). In my experience, the people you work with tends to have a bigger influence on your happiness or lac...
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 14, at 6:38:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Why are we going straight to accusing the firm of discriminating? Op says, it was a combination of a struggling practice group and a personality conflict with a key player. In general, it wasn’t a great situation, and I was likely to leave on my own soon. We answered this question above. For example: OP's had great reviews and has made it all the way to 7th year. At a secondary-market V100, makin...
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: Best   on: November 14, at 6:19:55 pm   in: Legal Employment
Why are we going straight to accusing the firm of discriminating?

Op says,

it was a combination of a struggling practice group and a personality conflict with a key player. In general, it wasn’t a great situation, and I was likely to leave on my own soon.

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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 14, at 5:45:44 pm   in: Legal Employment
I know OP won't and should not out the firm, but if I were a woman in law school choosing between firms, I'd certainly want to know which firm is anti-women before devoting a major portion of my life to them. Seconding the above in its entirety (including, to be clear, the advice that OP "won't and should not out the firm", as doing so would not be in her own best interests). But I'd go...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303578

Re: Kirkland Bonuses?  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 14, at 5:11:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Sounds like It's like any biglaw firm. They pay you well, but you'll earn every extra penny of it and you won't be rich.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=260836

Re: Kirkland Bonuses?  
  by: jdoe12345   on: November 14, at 4:17:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Kirkland bonuses are paid in Dec (sometime between Dec 20 - Dec 31). First years get a signing bonus, but no stub bonus. Regardless of what the billing year is, your full first year bonus is consistent with the fact that everybody in your class is starting at the same time, so to the extent there is some hours issue because you actually didn't spend a full billable year by that point, it'll be fi...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=260836

Re: Fellowships 2019-2020 (Skadden/EJW, etc.)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 4:10:53 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone here heard back from EJW yet or recently?

I’ve heard that interviews will start after Thanksgiving, so I’m guessing people will start to hear in the next week or so.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=303006

Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Wubbles   on: November 14, at 4:02:16 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone know what the TX firms give as gifts? BB, V&E, etc.
Cowboy hats and belt buckles
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303538

Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 3:29:30 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Got a referral email and request for a writing sample this afternoon.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=223986

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by:   on: November 14, at 3:15:43 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:References checked for USTP. Interviewed the second to last day of the interview period.

What day were your references checked? Today?

They were checked this morning.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=302474

Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 3:07:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Anyone know what the TX firms give as gifts? BB, V&E, etc.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303538

Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:44:38 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Does anyone from usaf DAP know when November board results will be released? Has anyone heard anything? This thread tends to blow up when AF DAP gets released, so its pretty safe to assume it hasn’t been released yet. Last year’s November Board results went out around thanksgiving week, so i assume late next week is most likely. Im stuck in a horrendous job and this would be the quickest and clea...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=31543

Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:41:48 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

lawstudent12121274 wrote:Does anyone from usaf DAP know when November board results will be released? Has anyone heard anything?

For the September board, the update email came out on Sep 6, calls were made about a week later, and then rejection emails were sent out about 2 weeks after. Update email just came out for november, so I would imagine calls are going out next week?
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Re: FL 2020 Bar Study Buddy?  
  by:   on: November 14, at 2:33:01 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hello, I am also a NY attorney who now lives in Florida and is taking the Florida bar exam in February 2020. Let me know what study materials you are using and we can try and figure this out together!
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=303435

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:31:57 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:References checked for USTP. Interviewed the second to last day of the interview period.

What day were your references checked? Today?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=302474

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 2:09:52 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
References checked for USTP. Interviewed the second to last day of the interview period.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=302474

Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: November 14, at 1:39:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
So if OP were to sue and the firm finds this thread, can they use this thread to argue that the suit is for monetary reasons? OP was "in a bind" due to the market etc, and she strategized with others online about a potential "seven figure lawsuit." An employment lawyer even popped in to the thread. Not saying that argument is valid, just a possibility. This isn't legal advice ...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303578

Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: WhatsUP?   on: November 14, at 1:32:44 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi I am new to this forum and had a question in regards to the moral character application here in California. I am an out of state attorney who moved here three years ago and am taking my bar exam this February. I was unsuccessful last year. I put in my moral character application exactly June 30, 2019 and online it only shows submitted. It does not show under review or anything like that. I hav...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278929

Re: Military Law  
  by:   on: November 14, at 1:15:53 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Does anyone from usaf DAP know when November board results will be released? Has anyone heard anything?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=31543

UBE/Colorado Bar  
  by: Law2020!   on: November 14, at 1:00:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
How important is it to take Secured Transactions and/or Criminal Procedure in law school in preparation for the bar?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=303586

Re: NLRB Honors Program 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 12:59:32 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Any updates on interviews with HQ?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=303338

Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 14, at 12:57:40 pm   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:You know we’re desperate if we’re hoping Latham will raise
even if they do, nobody will match. they are kind of like kirkland in that they have discretionary above market bonuses for high billers. it'd be like when Kirkland used to announce MARKET SHATTERING BONUSES.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303517

Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: November 14, at 12:41:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
You know we’re desperate if we’re hoping Latham will raise
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: November 14, at 12:39:37 pm   in: Legal Employment
It looks bad even without good reviews. I tried to fire someone that had bad reviews at a trading firm and legal wouldn’t let me do it. She wasn’t even pregnant. We had to get a lot of communications in writing and eventually left a 3 months pile of paper trail to back up the bad reviews to fire the person. And we still paid her full bonus for the year (which was almost full salary for the year in...
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Re: In-House Lawyer Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 12:29:14 pm   in: In-House
OP, what is your biggest complaint about in-house? Would you mind sharing your salary and the city you are in? I made the move as a 4th year as well (immediately after bonus, so very early) in TX, only real complaint is (1) the pay (and I make $190 base with about $30k bonus and $25k options) because it falls behind the firm as time goes and isn't all cash and (2) when you are at a firm, every yea...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=302327

Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: November 14, at 12:21:11 pm   in: Legal Employment
I dont like the anti-lacroix tenor this thread has taken. In either case, looks like we r done here, ladies and gentlemen. Gotta keep the hope alive for STB or LW to save the day (or at least for Cahill to give out special bonuses). Eh, Cahill frequently beats on bonuses, I don't think the rest of the market cares, any more than they do about Kirkland beating on the regular. At this point only ST...
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: Alive97   on: November 14, at 12:16:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
So if OP were to sue and the firm finds this thread, can they use this thread to argue that the suit is for monetary reasons? OP was "in a bind" due to the market etc, and she strategized with others online about a potential "seven figure lawsuit." An employment lawyer even popped in to the thread.

Not saying that argument is valid, just a possibility.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303578

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:25:23 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Any reference checks for CRM-reg or civil tax?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=302474

Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:22:18 am   in: Legal Employment
Skadden match.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303517

Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: November 14, at 11:14:55 am   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Considering they fired a pregnant woman with good reviews I would say yes, they are full of morons.

This is the kind of thing that one or two idiot partners talk about and someone else usually steps in and kicks them in the ass for being morons. I’m surprised they actually fired OP.

true
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:13:21 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Replace callback with "finalist notification"


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Re: Kansas City Plaintiffs' Firms  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 11:05:31 am   in: Legal Employment
Bump
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303448

Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: MurdockLLP2   on: November 14, at 11:04:58 am   in: Legal Employment

dabigchina wrote:I dont like the anti-lacroix tenor this thread has taken.

In either case, looks like we r done here, ladies and gentlemen.

Gotta keep the hope alive for STB or LW to save the day (or at least for Cahill to give out special bonuses).
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303517

Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by:   on: November 14, at 10:45:46 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
However, can your transferred score of 146.1 still be combined with your florida essay score? Conversely, if you transfer a MBE score earned in Florida to one of the UBE states that lets you do this, can your 150 MBE score be combined with the MPT and MEE to calculate your overall score? If so, that would be a cakewalk. You could log into the stupid program, type up a couple of garbage essays, an...
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Re: Adaptibar Discount Code?  
  by:   on: November 14, at 10:37:43 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Would anyone have a code handy? Would be really helpful, you can just PM me. Thanks in advance- Jenn.


a male human wrote:
***0123L wrote:I'd love one too, thanks so much!
Sent!

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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: November 14, at 10:25:08 am   in: Legal Employment
Considering they fired a pregnant woman with good reviews I would say yes, they are full of morons.

This is the kind of thing that one or two idiot partners talk about and someone else usually steps in and kicks them in the ass for being morons. I’m surprised they actually fired OP.
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Re: NY Third Department Admissions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 9:38:36 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Has anyone received a december swear in date?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=284205

Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 9:37:27 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Haha, well that explains it.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=302474

Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 14, at 8:52:05 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I had my second round interview last week in D.C.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=302983

Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: November 14, at 6:10:31 am   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Last year, Latham did Patagonia jackets. I think they're doing the same thing again this year. All of the 2Ls and 3Ls (former SAs) at my school got a survey for their jacket size a couple weeks ago.

Nice of them to provide something that will provide comfort to their former offerees while panhandling on 7th Ave
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: November 14, at 1:44:33 am   in: Legal Employment
I would think about the situation in this context: if your former firm had a potential seven figure lawsuit against you, what would they do? Would the firm forego that seven figure recovery out of some abstract sense of loyalty? Many states permit plaintiffs to sue as "Jane Doe;" mitigating identity concerns. If you're good at what you do, you will get another job. But this is a potenti...
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Retake and letting schools know  
  by: analyst   on: November 14, at 12:48:53 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
I plan on retaking the lsat. Goal: To stop schools from looking at your app until they get the January score. Research: Per LSAC they will send it to schools automatically . Per powerscore , your CAS report indicates a future LSAT date, hoping the law schools see it and do not consider your application till then . Question: Given its admission season, you do not get timely responses from law schoo...
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Re: SMU Dedman c/o 2023 ('19-'20 cycle)  
  by:   on: November 14, at 12:35:56 am   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Anybody else submit their app recently?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=303577

Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: ajr   on: November 14, at 12:09:29 am   in: Legal Employment

rahulg91 wrote:
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:The complaints are very real because if you give a mouse a cookie...

“Ugh why don’t we have sparkling water”

Becomes

“Ugh why don’t we have pamplemousse”

Pamplemousse is the only acceptable flavor of sparkling water.

this is credited
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Undergraduate Transfer -- Semester to Quarter  
  by: DaHead2Head514   on: November 13, at 11:43:37 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I transferred from a semester system undergrad to a quarter system undergrad. At my semester system undergrad, each class was worth either 1-, 3-, or 4-semester hours, as opposed to the standard 1 credit across the board. As a result, I'm having trouble figuring out how I would convert my LSAC GPA. I'm familiar that LSAC converts each quarter credit to .67 semester credits. But since my semester s...
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Nutter McClennen Salary  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 11:39:47 pm   in: Legal Employment
I have an interview there soon. I’d be interviewing as a fourth year. Does anyone know what their salary scale is? I know it’s 170 for first year. Is it just $10k a year after that? Not sure if there is any negotiating room. It seems like the “second tier” firms in Boston are around the same (Nutter, Riemer Braunstein, Burns and Levinson, Sullivan and Worcester). So if anyone has any data points o...
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Re: California Bar Moral Character Application  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 11:31:00 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hi I am new to this forum and had a question in regards to the moral character application here in California. I am an out of state attorney who moved here three years ago and am taking my bar exam this February. I was unsuccessful last year. I put in my moral character application exactly June 30, 2019 and online it only shows submitted. It does not show under review or anything like that. I have...
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=278929

Re: NLRB Honors Program 2019  
  by:   on: November 13, at 11:03:30 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:Thank you! I'm interviewing in-person

How did your interview go? And if you could, will you please message me, I had a question for you.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=303338

Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 13, at 10:48:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
I dont like the anti-lacroix tenor this thread has taken.

In either case, looks like we r done here, ladies and gentlemen.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=303517

Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: Tyler_Durden   on: November 13, at 10:27:11 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would think about the situation in this context: if your former firm had a potential seven figure lawsuit against you, what would they do? Would the firm forego that seven figure recovery out of some abstract sense of loyalty? Many states permit plaintiffs to sue as "Jane Doe;" mitigating identity concerns. If you're good at what you do, you will get another job. But this is a potentia...
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Re: 145 LSAT & 3.42 GPA  
  by: Johnnybgoode92   on: November 13, at 9:36:34 pm   in: What are my chances?
Is this John1990 again?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=303569

Re: Big Law NALP Reimbursement Timeline  
  by: Wubbles   on: November 13, at 8:41:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
I had 10+ callbacks back during 2L fall, 2 took significantly longer than the others to receive. One was slow for no real reason other than the firm apparently just being slow, the other one was because the firm was slow and then the recruiter in charge of my application quit and my reimbursement form was never forwarded along. But anything less than 2 months after sending the form seemed typical
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: shenan9944   on: November 13, at 8:05:20 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
I just noticed that my status on AVUE had changed back from closed (which its been for a few weeks since by interview), back to "Selected for interview". Not sure if that means anything or not. The status either says "closed" or "selected for interview" depending on what page of avue you are looking at. If you see closed and then click on link under Announcement it w...
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: Blessedassurance   on: November 13, at 8:03:22 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it possible to move from a well respected boutique or medium sized law firm (think top 3 boutique in major market within relevant practice group) to big law after 2-3 years? Does anyone have any insight on how to make this move? Also is it worth it for the money? As to the general question of whether it is possible to make the jump from boutique/midlaw to biglaw...yes, it happens all the time....
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Re: Callback to Offer timeline for Northern Virginia Big Law?  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: November 13, at 7:54:51 pm   in: Legal Employment

UnfrozenCaveman wrote:Isn't the sample size to this like 2?

I like this post because literally only 2 people actually gave me an answer. Well played
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by:   on: November 13, at 5:43:08 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard from Colorado? Heard secondhand that someone I know got an offer so now I'm like hmmm what's going on....


hey hey! I got my offer yesterday from Colorado. I had checked in earlier in the week about another deadline and was told first rounds of offers were going out “this week”

hope that’s helpful!
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Re: Best GRE Prep Company/Tutor/Resources?  
  by: Dipsychus   on: November 13, at 5:30:47 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Figured someone on this site would know. Asking for a family member. What are the best resources for acing the GRE? Plenty online, and many books, which claim to do MUCH. I don't think much of them: they exist for practice (timed) and a getting-used-to function (time and length, starting with the essays). And often have badly-designed questions. Obviously, get the ETS GRE books themselves (three:...
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Re: In-House Lawyer Taking Questions  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 4:57:15 pm   in: In-House

Anonymous User wrote:Bumping this thread

What knowledge base were you expected to come in with--i.e., you were a corp attorney, so were you expected to have knowledge on, e.g., IP or real estate matters, or did the company expect you to have a learning curve, and what have you done to get yourself up to speed.
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Re: What LSAT would I need for a full scholarship to:  
  by:   on: November 13, at 4:32:01 pm   in: What are my chances?
@lawlawlawlawlaw1 - could you please PM me? I have worked in banking and megafund PE and am now considering jd mba. Would love to hear your thoughts / motivations for getting the JD on a part-time basis while you work.
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Re: Bristow 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 4:08:45 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
damn you all have some well placed sources lol. radio silence over here.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 4:03:41 pm   in: Legal Employment
DPW just matched.
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Re: Mixed A4 and Letter in my application form  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 13, at 3:51:00 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
No one will care. I think a lot of adcomms don't even print apps out to read them.
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Re: Bristow 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 3:32:18 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
I wouldn’t be surprised if they hadn’t. I’m almost certain (via a recommender) they had not gone out as of Friday. Have no knowledge if they’ve gone out this week, but suspect not; Monday was a federal holiday, and OSG has had a busy week (four SCOTUS arguments between Tuesday and today).
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Re: NY Third Department Admissions  
  by: Some_lawyer_in_WA   on: November 13, at 3:27:44 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I received an email with two follow-up questions on Nov. 6, and sent responses that day. On Nov. 7 I received the email notifying me I was set to schedule my character and fitness interview and the swearing in ceremony I wished to attend.
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Re: Law school -> Biglaw -> PE (investment team) taking questions  
  by: synergy   on: November 13, at 2:54:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Last questions (same anon as before) - do you know other lawyers who were able to make the jump? Why do you think more lawyers dont do it? What differentiated you from other inhouse counsels? I know a couple who made the jump but they made the jump generally to the LP side of the fence and in quasi-legal roles rather than the GP (suprising number of CIOs with fund formation experience). Without t...
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Re: Drug use - Honors Attorney Programs  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 2:54:21 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Beyond disclosing it yourself on the application, how would the background check reveal drug use dating back 7 years (assuming there is no record of it, such as a photo, video, court record, etc.)? Having gone through the DOJ check - they ask you if you used drugs in the last seven years, and you answer honestly because that’s what you’re affirming you’ll do. More practically, you have to provide...
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Re: Drug use - Honors Attorney Programs  
  by: waffles7   on: November 13, at 2:52:05 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Be honest. You are more likely to be disqualified for lying than you are for doing marijuana. If you are doing a clearance process, they definitely find out because they interview many many people about you, and a common question asked is about whether the person has done drugs. I don't know about the other background processes, and if they go into as deep a dive for those. But to be frank, workin...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 2:37:50 pm   in: Legal Employment
The complaints are very real because if you give a mouse a cookie... “Ugh why don’t we have sparkling water” Becomes “Ugh why don’t we have pamplemousse” Not to get too off topic. We have free soda in all vending machines on all floors at my V5 (non-NYC office), but only the cafe vending machines have La Croix. Someone asked the office managing partner during an all attorney meeting whether it wo...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 2:36:23 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
I just noticed that my status on AVUE had changed back from closed (which its been for a few weeks since by interview), back to "Selected for interview". Not sure if that means anything or not.
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Re: Drug use - Honors Attorney Programs  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 2:30:32 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Beyond disclosing it yourself on the application, how would the background check reveal drug use dating back 7 years (assuming there is no record of it, such as a photo, video, court record, etc.)?
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Mixed A4 and Letter in my application form  
  by:   on: November 13, at 2:29:45 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
This morning, I submitted my first application to NYU. I mixed A4 and Letter paper sizes when I generate PDFs. So, the paper width and length vary a couple times in my transmitted application. And, I've paid it.

So, shall I take any action? Either notify NYU or leave it as-is? The default setting of the PC at my home is A4.

So, embarrassing. I'm applying to the ED cycle for NYU.
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Re: Transcript LSAC  
  by:   on: November 13, at 2:04:25 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I'm in a similar boat. I did a semester abroad through ISEP last semester, and when I received the CAS Academic Summary of the transcript, they had left off that entire semester. Even though the credit weight and grade received for each class is listed on my home university transcript, CAS doesn't even show me as being enrolled in that semester at my home university or abroad. I have no way of get...
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PS Feedback  
  by: reywon0113   on: November 13, at 1:56:42 pm   in: Law School Personal Statements
Hello,
I am looking for feedback on my personal statement.
If you would like to give me some advice for improvement, I'd really appreciate it.
I will PM or email it.

Thanks in advance for your time.
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Re: Can I go from 158 to 170 in 2 months  
  by: askingforhelp   on: November 13, at 1:42:39 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
Yes -- You can! I went from a 143 to a 171.

Took a Testmasters Course, meditated, overcame test-day anxiety, and took MANY PTs under test-day conditions.

If I can do it, you can. Don't lose hope!
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Re: Can I go from 158 to 170 in 2 months  
  by: dvlthndr   on: November 13, at 1:19:19 pm   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
You are weak in every section, and it sounds like you may not have a lot of intuition for the material. Starting where you are, you have no real chance of cracking 170 unless you sit down and actually study all of the material. To do a 170 on exam day, your goal should be consistently hitting above 170 on practice tests. Drilling practice tests or switching your focus to LG probably isn't going to...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 1:11:14 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone been listed as a finalist yet? If so, what component?
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 1:06:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Op here - basically this Q comes from the fact that 1) there is one partner who is notoriously difficult to work with and bc it is a smaller firm it's harder or impossible to get away from that person (gets angry, is rude, never good enough, sends back for ridiculous changes etc) and 2) it is unclear what the salary is year over year even though the firm starts at market. So, wondering if at BL i...
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Timeline for Callbacks->Offers post-OCI?  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: November 13, at 1:00:56 pm   in: OCI
Recently had a callback to join a large firm as a summer and I know I am in a unique position having an interview in November. Was wondering if any other folks on TLS were in a similar position and what their callback to offer timelines were at this stage. (stories from DC/NY/NoVA markets preferred)
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 12:58:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would ask for pay for whatever remains on your maternity leave and more time on website. The situation looks seriously terrible for the firm. "Whatever remains" is all of it, right? It doesn't sound like OP's taken any leave so far - she's barely out of the first trimester - and this is her first kid. Also, on a slightly different note, since this wasn't addressed earlier ITT: OP, ple...
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Re: LSAT writing sample  
  by: yyfhailey   on: November 13, at 12:56:33 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum

cavalier1138 wrote:No one reads it.

Thank you! Feel relieved.
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Re: Big Law NALP Reimbursement Timeline  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: November 13, at 12:55:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
I heard some horror stories but the longest it took was like a month for me out of tens of callbacks.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: rahulg91   on: November 13, at 12:54:59 pm   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:The complaints are very real because if you give a mouse a cookie...

“Ugh why don’t we have sparkling water”

Becomes

“Ugh why don’t we have pamplemousse”

Pamplemousse is the only acceptable flavor of sparkling water.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: November 13, at 12:51:32 pm   in: Legal Employment
The complaints are very real because if you give a mouse a cookie...

“Ugh why don’t we have sparkling water”

Becomes

“Ugh why don’t we have pamplemousse”
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Re: 3rd Time Bar Failure - Advice  
  by: Knycaolaw   on: November 13, at 12:50:57 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I know what you’re going through, I failed the bar exam 3 times before I finally passed and underwent many of the stresses that you are going through. Doing a first time course like Barbri is a complete waste of time and money for you at this point. That is intended for students who just graduated from law school and are first time takers. You need to find a program that caters to people like your...
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Re: On 3L job hunt, just one screener so far. Is this normal?  
  by: Halp   on: November 13, at 12:48:18 pm   in: OCI
I know this is already done and dusted, but I'm very confused. OP, I take it you did your 2L SA, but then, partway through the SA, you told the firm you didn't want to be considered for an offer to return after graduation? Why in blazes would you have done that? Even if you hated the firm for a very good reason - say, people were backstabbing each other left and right, partners were throwing obje...
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Re: Burnout Issue  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 12:44:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Mid-level litigation associate here. My view is that being a work horse is not sustainable long term. It's helpful to build the necessary skills you will need to succeed, but depending on others to give you work, receiving a fraction of the value of that work, and being very replaceable by constantly growing classes of new associates every year is a recipe for disaster. But what do you do when yo...
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 12:35:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Op here - basically this Q comes from the fact that 1) there is one partner who is notoriously difficult to work with and bc it is a smaller firm it's harder or impossible to get away from that person (gets angry, is rude, never good enough, sends back for ridiculous changes etc) and 2) it is unclear what the salary is year over year even though the firm starts at market. So, wondering if at BL it...
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: notinbiglaw   on: November 13, at 12:32:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
I would ask for pay for whatever remains on your maternity leave and more time on website.

The situation looks seriously terrible for the firm.
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Re: On 3L job hunt, just one screener so far. Is this normal?  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 12:27:53 pm   in: OCI
I know this is already done and dusted, but I'm very confused. OP, I take it you did your 2L SA, but then, partway through the SA, you told the firm you didn't want to be considered for an offer to return after graduation? Why in blazes would you have done that? Even if you hated the firm for a very good reason - say, people were backstabbing each other left and right, partners were throwing objec...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by:   on: November 13, at 12:24:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
I don't think so, I'm pretty sure they meant that biglaw associates complain about things like not having LaCroix or some certain type of espresso in the cafe, and that "issue" is disgusting to someone coming from a government background. FWIW, I know a ton of BigLaw associates and never have I ever heard any serious complaints - at any firm - along those lines. Firm cafeterias/pantries...
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: BeeTeeZ   on: November 13, at 12:17:24 pm   in: Legal Employment
As a third year associate, why would your billing rate affect your ability to meet your hours requirement? This isn't a concern at the top V[#] firms, but at many other firms, clients are highly cost-sensitive, and the higher your billing rate, the less attractive you are to a partner looking to delegate work. At some firms, salaries and billing rates vary from person to person within a given cla...
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: SFSpartan   on: November 13, at 12:11:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
I made the move from a <10 attorney real estate firm, very well known in my market with an incredible client list, to a big firm paying market earlier this year, just as I was about to complete my 3rd full year. It took me 4 interviews, received 2 offers. Biggest concern in interviews was my billing rate and whether I would be able to handle meeting my hour requirement while billing at my now sig...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: NoLongerALurker   on: November 13, at 11:57:51 am   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Milbank is both a comp leader and a barista in the office leader

Tautology alert.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: rahulg91   on: November 13, at 11:30:37 am   in: Legal Employment
Government attorneys need to STFU and GTFO of this thread. Go whine about pensions or whatever someplace else you miserable fucks.

STB will bone-us properly.
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Re: Bristow 2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 11:25:20 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Given how late it is, I imagine calls must have been made. Rejection letters were mailed at the end of October last year. I haven’t heard of any offers yet, though.
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: kaiser   on: November 13, at 11:21:20 am   in: Legal Employment
I think you need to bargain a bit to at least keep your profile up on the site. Its not asking much, especially if the firm isn't paying you any more past year end (you didn't mention how much longer you are staying on the payroll so I am just assuming until year's end). And even that in itself is pretty cheap. I would think that a 7th year, well-reviewed associate whom they know is pregnant would...
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Re: NLRB Honors Program 2019  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 11:21:16 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I got an interview with one of the field offices!
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Re: Would This LLM Be Pointless for My Career?  
  by: Windjammer   on: November 13, at 10:58:24 am   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Currently a 2L and will be a summer associate at a V15 in a secondary market this summer. My wife and I have always been interested in living in Germany (we both speak German) and I came across an LLM in finance at the Institute for Law and Finance in Frankfurt (https://www.ilf-frankfurt.de/llm-programs/llm-finance/program-highlights). My long term plan is to practice corporate before going in ho...
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 10:55:53 am   in: Legal Employment
Your firm is firing a pregnant woman who has great reviews, the least they can do is keep you on the website until you land on your feet - including through the end of your maternity leave. The reality is that this is a bad look for them, even if you aren't interested in pursuing anything and they didn't actually fire you for your pregnancy, and so they need to be more flexible. "Great revie...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: November 13, at 10:54:45 am   in: Legal Employment
Milbank is both a comp leader and a barista in the office leader
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 10:44:28 am   in: Legal Employment

dabigchina wrote:It's probably useful to know about this stuff so candidates can have reasonable expectations going in - IE they might be out of pocket for expenses incurred for the interview, notwithstanding the official firm policy.
That's a good point, especially for those who have a habit of "spreading the wealth" when on business travel.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 13, at 10:41:49 am   in: Legal Employment
I don't think so, I'm pretty sure they meant that biglaw associates complain about things like not having LaCroix or some certain type of espresso in the cafe, and that "issue" is disgusting to someone coming from a government background. FWIW, I know a ton of BigLaw associates and never have I ever heard any serious complaints - at any firm - along those lines. Firm cafeterias/pantries...
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: papermateflair   on: November 13, at 9:40:50 am   in: Legal Employment
Your firm is firing a pregnant woman who has great reviews, the least they can do is keep you on the website until you land on your feet - including through the end of your maternity leave. The reality is that this is a bad look for them, even if you aren't interested in pursuing anything and they didn't actually fire you for your pregnancy, and so they need to be more flexible. "Great review...
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Re: Fired, pregnant  
  by: BrainsyK   on: November 13, at 9:30:25 am   in: Legal Employment
Ask for more time on the website. You may not want to pursue any action, but first, they don't know that--at least I hope they don't because that seems to me like a valuable bargaining chip--and second, they know that you know that they know and the least they can do to relieve themselves of any concern of any action is give more time on the website, which literally costs them nothing. The only re...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by:   on: November 13, at 9:28:21 am   in: Legal Employment
Ugh how am I supposed to feed my family This comment wins. I used to be in govt and I have become somewhat disgusted by the “issues” (with heavy quotes) raised during my periodic biglaw associate meetings. I think he/she might have been joking. I don't think so, I'm pretty sure they meant that biglaw associates complain about things like not having LaCroix or some certain type of espresso in the ...
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Can I go from 158 to 170 in 2 months  
  by:   on: November 13, at 9:24:14 am   in: LSAT Prep and Discussion Forum
So I am taking the LSAT in 2 months exactly, on January 13th. I've studied (quite sporadically and inconsistently) over the past couple of months, with LR as my main (almost only) focus. I've taken a total of 4 prep tests and have improved my LR score in particular a lot. I used to skip over a lot of questions and would miss over 20 questions in LR alone but have improved under timed conditions. O...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Rv30   on: November 13, at 6:40:51 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Re: DOL Nope- I’m the anon above who had a phone interview post-OCI. They said they would make decisions November-December, I didn’t get the impression there would be an in-person interview round but I could be wrong. same. I had a phone interview about 3 weeks ago but haven't heard anything. IIRC, they said I probably wouldn't hear from them for about a month. They didn't mention another round o...
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Conster31   on: November 13, at 2:17:28 am   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:Army base assignments went out.


Got the email regarding bases/ duty stations for AD Army today. Check quick as preference lists are due back by Thursday
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: November 13, at 1:26:36 am   in: Legal Employment

dabigchina wrote:
objctnyrhnr wrote:
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Ugh how am I supposed to feed my family

This comment wins.

I used to be in govt and I have become somewhat disgusted by the “issues” (with heavy quotes) raised during my periodic biglaw associate meetings.
I think he/she might have been joking.

Latrell Sprewell was a prophet
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 13, at 1:07:57 am   in: Legal Employment
You think people who need jobs aren’t going to apply to this firm because they’ve been slow to reimburse the OP? Yes--that is exactly what I meant. Or, you know, if there are other options, you can avoid requiring reimbursement directly from the firm. Rereading, I get what you meant now. (There are so many calls to OUT THE FIRM on this site for a whole range of things that I leapt to the nuclear ...
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Fired, pregnant  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 13, at 12:49:43 am   in: Legal Employment
7th year, V100, given the talk today. It wasn’t performance-based. We just had reviews, and mine were actually great. Without going into detail, it was a combination of a struggling practice group and a personality conflict with a key player. In general, it wasn’t a great situation, and I was likely to leave on my own soon. But the firm is only giving me until the end of the year on the website, w...
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Re: Burnout Issue  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 13, at 12:37:23 am   in: Legal Employment
Mid-level litigation associate here. My view is that being a work horse is not sustainable long term. It's helpful to build the necessary skills you will need to succeed, but depending on others to give you work, receiving a fraction of the value of that work, and being very replaceable by constantly growing classes of new associates every year is a recipe for disaster. But what do you do when yo...
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Re: Burnout Issue  
  by: barkschool   on: November 13, at 12:33:34 am   in: Legal Employment
Mid-level litigation associate here. My view is that being a work horse is not sustainable long term. It's helpful to build the necessary skills you will need to succeed, but depending on others to give you work, receiving a fraction of the value of that work, and being very replaceable by constantly growing classes of new associates every year is a recipe for disaster. But what do you do when yo...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 13, at 12:33:22 am   in: Legal Employment

objctnyrhnr wrote:
LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Ugh how am I supposed to feed my family

This comment wins.

I used to be in govt and I have become somewhat disgusted by the “issues” (with heavy quotes) raised during my periodic biglaw associate meetings.
I think he/she might have been joking.
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Re: Drug use - Honors Attorney Programs  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 11:22:58 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Circling back again. Any thoughts on smoking MJ once in the past 12 months? Being honest in the app or mitigating factors? It’s all pre-bar as a first semester 3L
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: November 12, at 10:56:52 pm   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Ugh how am I supposed to feed my family

https://twitter.com/dril/status/3844089 ... 72?lang=en
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: UnfrozenCaveman   on: November 12, at 10:46:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
Thinking about OUTING my firm for having such terrible toilet paper in the 23rd floor bathroom.

Also, I think my comment may apply more for summer associate style callback reimbursements.
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 10:17:52 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone heard from Maryland?
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Re: Legal Employment Ann Arbor  
  by: Sawtooth   on: November 12, at 10:11:16 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a 3L at Michigan and did not interview with any local firms, so I am only vaguely aware of the local legal market. With that being said, I know that Gunderson has a small office in AA and that many of the Michigan mid-law firms like Honigman and Dickinson Wright have an office here. AA is also a very doable commute from the Detroit metro area, so I wouldn't limit your search to AA exclusively.
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SMU Dedman c/o 2023 ('19-'20 cycle)  
  by: susanblue2112   on: November 12, at 10:09:18 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Acceptance, Denial, Wait lists for Fall 2020 Enrollment
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 12, at 9:56:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
As a third year associate, why would your billing rate affect your ability to meet your hours requirement? This isn't a concern at the top V[#] firms, but at many other firms, clients are highly cost-sensitive, and the higher your billing rate, the less attractive you are to a partner looking to delegate work. At some firms, salaries and billing rates vary from person to person within a given cla...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 12, at 9:50:51 pm   in: Legal Employment
Ugh how am I supposed to feed my family This comment wins. I used to be in govt and I have become somewhat disgusted by the “issues” (with heavy quotes) raised during my periodic biglaw associate meetings. I don't think BigLaw associates (or even partners) lose the right to complain about their work/pay just because other lawyers have it (much) worse*. That's like telling someone who got robbed, ...
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Re: Conditional scholarship curve?  
  by: Dcc617   on: November 12, at 9:35:48 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
OP, look, we all know that you’ll be the exception, but imagine for a minute that things don’t break your way. Where will you be then? Paying full freight at a bad school with bad grades. Why risk that when you could just retake? It’s one test vs two semesters’ worth of tests. Plus you can mulligan the LSAT as needed. At least don’t go to a conditional scholarship. Try to negotiate the stipulation...
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: Tyler_Durden   on: November 12, at 9:24:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
Biglaw may give you a chance, but will ruthlessly eliminate you if you are not profitable.
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Re: DHS Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:23:26 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
does anyone have information regarding second round interviews?
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:06:12 pm   in: Legal Employment
I work in a mid sized law firm based in NYC. Associates from my firm experienced in a very specialized type of litigation routinely lateral to NYC biglaw (V50).
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: objctnyrhnr   on: November 12, at 9:01:21 pm   in: Legal Employment

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:Ugh how am I supposed to feed my family

This comment wins.

I used to be in govt and I have become somewhat disgusted by the “issues” (with heavy quotes) raised during my periodic biglaw associate meetings.
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: BeeTeeZ   on: November 12, at 9:01:05 pm   in: Legal Employment
I made the move from a <10 attorney real estate firm, very well known in my market with an incredible client list, to a big firm paying market earlier this year, just as I was about to complete my 3rd full year. It took me 4 interviews, received 2 offers. Biggest concern in interviews was my billing rate and whether I would be able to handle meeting my hour requirement while billing at my now sig...
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Legal Employment Ann Arbor  
  by: nativtracker   on: November 12, at 8:23:29 pm   in: Legal Employment
Can anyone offer their takes on the legal scene in Ann Arbor and/or reputable firms in the area to practice corporate law? I am also looking at potentially tech companies, given that there seems to be a pretty big tech scene there. It's hard to make a determination because I am not familiar with the area and/or firms. Any advice or firms to consider would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 7:59:09 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone heard from Colorado? Heard secondhand that someone I know got an offer so now I'm like hmmm what's going on....
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Re: Applying pending LSAT score  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 7:37:48 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
There isn't really any point. I think some people do it hoping that their app will look "earlier" to adcomms, but the point in applying early is to get the best shot at scholarship money you can, and since schools won't make any decisions on scholarships until reviewing an application, it's not going to help just to have an earlier date on the application. Though some people probably jus...
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Re: 3L Public Defender Applications  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 7:37:13 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
has anyone heard from LAS in NYC after second round interview? i know the process is slow but it's been a month for me
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Applying pending LSAT score  
  by: lawguy999   on: November 12, at 7:32:05 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
I have what might be a dumb question. What is the point of applying earlier but indicating that the schools should delay reviewing the application pending an LSAT score? If they have to wait anyways, why not just wait until you have the score before submitting? Not a rhetorical question, but thanks in advance for assistance.
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Re: Conditional scholarship curve?  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: November 12, at 7:30:37 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
It is very unfortunate that these schools set their curve to ensure as few students get jobs as possible. I know that misleading students into thinking sustaining their scholarship is easy if they only need a 2.5 is shrewd business, and that the governing law is law schools are not held to lower ethical standards to other businesses, presumably even pawn shops, casinos, and strip clubs. Neverthele...
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 7:30:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
You think people who need jobs aren’t going to apply to this firm because they’ve been slow to reimburse the OP? Yes--that is exactly what I meant. Or, you know, if there are other options, you can avoid requiring reimbursement directly from the firm. Rereading, I get what you meant now. (There are so many calls to OUT THE FIRM on this site for a whole range of things that I leapt to the nuclear ...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 7:28:30 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Good news should come by phone; if your interviews etc were arranged via e-mail that's probably how a rejection will come (though I haven't been rejected by EDNY specifically so can't say for certain).
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: November 12, at 7:26:45 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it possible to move from a well respected boutique or medium sized law firm (think top 3 boutique in major market within relevant practice group) to big law after 2-3 years? Does anyone have any insight on how to make this move? Also is it worth it for the money? I think the difficulty of making this kind of move is sometimes exaggerated here. Outside of NYC, it seems to be fairly common. I kn...
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Re: Conditional scholarship curve?  
  by:   on: November 12, at 7:16:34 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Can someone please explain to me, at what GPA curve, the standard posted below is? Is it considered a 2.7, or a 2.5? Or something else? And I need to maintain a 2.8 GPA, what ranking/percentile do I need to be in roughly? The top 40%ish? A, A-, B+ 10% - 15% B, B- 35% - 40% (combined A/B grades not to exceed 50%) C+, C 35% - 45% C- & below 5% - 15% That 40-60% of the class gets a C+ or worse -...
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Unhappy with my new in-house job. What should I do?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 7:14:54 pm   in: In-House
I started at an in house job 4 months ago. The area of responsibility I was mostly interested in when I interviewed is non-existent (the hiring manager told me right before I started that they have decided to give that work to another group). The focus of my work is also different from what was told to me (they said I would do x/y type of work on an about 80/20 basis, and now it’s become into some...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 6:57:41 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Does anyone have a sense of how long it takes to hear from EDNY? I had my 1st and 2nd round late last month, and am waiting to hear. Would I get bad news via snail mail? Good news via phone call?
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Re: How to move in-house?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 6:31:39 pm   in: In-House
(1) If you are interested in going in-house, I would switch to a corporate/M&A practice at the largest, most prestigious law firm that you can get into. (2) As a second year restructuring associate, I moved to a different firm in its corporate finance group. If you are around or under two years, firms are way more willing to retrain you in a new practice group. On your resume, focus most of yo...
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 12, at 6:27:19 pm   in: Legal Employment

nixy wrote:That seems a sort of apocalyptic response, but you do you.
Back in the day I interviewed at firms that expressly told me they would not reimburse travel expenses. I still sucked it up and went.

No way folks will stop applying to the firm in question merely because they're - gasp - slow at processing a reimbursement. Many firms are pretty slow about processing these reimbursements.
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Re: Conditional scholarship curve?  
  by: QContinuum   on: November 12, at 6:22:42 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Can someone please explain to me, at what GPA curve, the standard posted below is? Is it considered a 2.7, or a 2.5? Or something else? And I need to maintain a 2.8 GPA, what ranking/percentile do I need to be in roughly? The top 40%ish? A, A-, B+ 10% - 15% B, B- 35% - 40% (combined A/B grades not to exceed 50%) C+, C 35% - 45% C- & below 5% - 15% That 40-60% of the class gets a C+ or worse -...
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Nashville Legal Market  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 6:17:34 pm   in: Legal Employment
My husband was just transferred to Nashville for his job, and I am in the process of doing some research into the legal market. I am a corporate associate with five years of experience at a V50 firm. I would prefer to go in-house, but it looks like in-house positions are extremely competitive and/or require healthcare experience. Assuming I can't land one of those positions, are there any good lif...
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Advice  
  by: blinkmtt3   on: November 12, at 6:01:10 pm   in: Legal Employment
I am looking to relocate to another state. About a month ago, I applied at a large firm in that state. The firm is comparable to my current firm in size and ranking. Shortly after I applied, my current firm became co-counsel with that other firm, and I have been working on a case with a Partner and Of Counsel of the practice group of which the position was posted. We have a good working relationsh...
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Re: How quickly do firms respond to recruiter submissions?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 5:36:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Does anyone know whether a hiring committee needs to approve an interview for one to go out to a candidate, or is it just partners in the practice group hiring?
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Re: Does NYU not offer any big scholarship for academic merit alone?  
  by:   on: November 12, at 5:10:20 pm   in: Financial Aid
Thanks guys! Super helpful
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: shenan9944   on: November 12, at 5:06:46 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:
shenan9944 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone with movement for ENRD?
I know at least one of my references was checked for ENRD, but otherwise no movement.

When was your one reference checked?

A week ago on Tuesday 11/5. I interviewed on 10/28.
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 4:48:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
I made the move from a <10 attorney real estate firm, very well known in my market with an incredible client list, to a big firm paying market earlier this year, just as I was about to complete my 3rd full year. It took me 4 interviews, received 2 offers. Biggest concern in interviews was my billing rate and whether I would be able to handle meeting my hour requirement while billing at my now sign...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 4:24:59 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

shenan9944 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Anyone with movement for ENRD?
I know at least one of my references was checked for ENRD, but otherwise no movement.

When was your one reference checked?
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: LaLiLuLeLo   on: November 12, at 4:22:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
Ugh how am I supposed to feed my family
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Re: Law school and engineering undergrad?  
  by:   on: November 12, at 4:04:38 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Yes, Yes, I understand that! But nonetheless, I believe this is a 2.5 curve? It's impossible to say. That policy gives a wide range of percentages for a wide range of grades. Depending on how individual professors decide to distribute grades, the class median could be pretty much anywhere in the 2.0-2.7 range. Gotcha. I have seen it on Wikipedia as 2.5 and 2.7 in another location. However, I am u...
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: johngotti   on: November 12, at 4:01:08 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
You can transfer your MBE score to Florida but you have to get a 136 on the Florida portion. The Florida portion is on the Tuesday before the MBE.

If you take the MBE and Florida together then you could use one to balance out the other (ie get a 140 MBE and 134 Florida you pass). If you have the time and confidence to do the MBE again then you're better off just taking both parts.
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Re: Law school and engineering undergrad?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 12, at 3:48:12 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate

Pman453 wrote:Yes, Yes, I understand that! But nonetheless, I believe this is a 2.5 curve?

It's impossible to say. That policy gives a wide range of percentages for a wide range of grades. Depending on how individual professors decide to distribute grades, the class median could be pretty much anywhere in the 2.0-2.7 range.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 3:42:20 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Army base assignments went out.
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University of Texas c/o 2023 ('19-'20 Cycle)  
  by:   on: November 12, at 3:35:25 pm   in: Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists
Hello! I applied to UT early decision mid-October.

Has anyone heard back who has applied ED for this cycle?

LSAT: 164
GPA: 3.4
5+ years work experience
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 3:32:33 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Notice from HR asking to re-submit my bar credentials. Seems like they are reviewing applications this week so I expect written requests will be sometime next week.
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Re: Conditional Scholarship, Do or Don't?  
  by:   on: November 12, at 3:28:12 pm   in: Financial Aid
Can someone please explain to me, at what GPA curve, the standard posted below is? Is it considered a 2.7, or a 2.5? Or something else?

And I need to maintain a 2.8 GPA, what ranking/percentile do I need to be in roughly? The top 40%ish?
A, A-, B+ 10% - 15%
B, B- 35% - 40% (combined A/B grades not to exceed 50%)
C+, C 35% - 45%
C- & below 5% - 15%
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 3:19:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
Last year, Latham did Patagonia jackets. I think they're doing the same thing again this year. All of the 2Ls and 3Ls (former SAs) at my school got a survey for their jacket size a couple weeks ago.
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Re: Negotiating "Counsel" in Title for Non-Attorney Role In House  
  by: nealric   on: November 12, at 3:14:52 pm   in: In-House

albanach wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
I think it's pretty typical that everyone with a counsel/attorney/lawyer title is going to have to report though the GC.

It's fairly common for tax attorneys that report up through the CFO to have counsel titles. Many (if not most) companies have internal policies that require sign off by attorneys in the law group for certain things to prevent shopping attorneys outside the group.
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 2:47:14 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Re: DOL Nope- I’m the anon above who had a phone interview post-OCI. They said they would make decisions November-December, I didn’t get the impression there would be an in-person interview round but I could be wrong. same. I had a phone interview about 3 weeks ago but haven't heard anything. IIRC, they said I probably wouldn't hear from them for about a month. They didn't mention another round o...
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Re: Law school and engineering undergrad?  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 2:45:48 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Maybe post in a more appropriate thread?
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Re: 2019 July California Bar  
  by: WhatsUP?   on: November 12, at 2:33:14 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Wishing everyone all the best!!!!!
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Re: Law school and engineering undergrad?  
  by:   on: November 12, at 2:20:21 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Yes, Yes, I understand that! But nonetheless, I believe this is a 2.5 curve?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 2:14:50 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Same
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020 (non-DOJ)  
  by: xmgr   on: November 12, at 2:11:51 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

shenan9944 wrote:
xmgr wrote:Anybody heard any more from NOAA?

I have a video interview with NOAA today. I got the invite last week.

I appreciate knowing that this opportunity has passed. No invite here.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 2:11:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
Current DPW Associate here. while I’d love to be wrong, I’d be beyond shocked if we raised associate comp (despite in general having a very good year as a firm). As I understand it, there was some client pushback the last time DPW did this. That, combined with general (totally unsubstantiated) recession fears, fears about partner poaching at a lock step firm, new managing partner... yeah it isn’t ...
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: xmgr   on: November 12, at 2:10:20 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
That's not totally surprising as they drastically cut the number of people they hired in the last cycle. SOunds like there may be more turnover in the ranks if this is the case.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 2:05:24 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
For Current or Former Army JAG Reservists (or anyone with accurate second-hand info)- I have been hearing from one of my bosses (State Gov't Law) that every person who has left our office to become a JAG Reservist has been given orders to somewhere else and has never returned. I am prior active duty so, I understand the commitment to service and how the military works. I also know that my job wou...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 2:05:05 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Re: DOL Nope- I’m the anon above who had a phone interview post-OCI. They said they would make decisions November-December, I didn’t get the impression there would be an in-person interview round but I could be wrong. same. I had a phone interview about 3 weeks ago but haven't heard anything. IIRC, they said I probably wouldn't hear from them for about a month. They didn't mention another round o...
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Re: Callback to Offer timeline for Northern Virginia Big Law?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 1:51:15 pm   in: Legal Employment
Very slow for me. Over a month from CB until offer.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 12, at 1:40:21 pm   in: Legal Employment
Can we talk about how cravath now follows Milbank's lead on compensation? Is it officially the "Milbank scale" now? Also, comp at junior levels is too low now. I've heard of offers that are competitive with biglaw salaries for in house positions being offered to first (!), second and third years. Why the hell would anyone stick around if they can make the same money working less elsewhere?
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: shenan9944   on: November 12, at 1:37:35 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone with movement for ENRD?
I know at least one of my references was checked for ENRD, but otherwise no movement.
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Need advice! Using co-counsel is "in" to law firm  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 1:27:59 pm   in: Lateral Moves
I am looking to relocate to another state. About a month ago, I applied at a large firm in that state. The firm is comparable to my current firm in size and ranking. Shortly after I applied, my current firm became co-counsel with that other firm, and I have been working on a case with a Partner and Of Counsel of the practice group of which the position was posted. We have a good working relationsh...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 1:24:14 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Anyone with movement for ENRD?
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Re: 145 LSAT & 3.42 GPA  
  by: decimalsanddollars   on: November 12, at 1:16:00 pm   in: What are my chances?
The schools you listed all have median LSAT in the 150s, and the lowest 25%ile for them is 149 (Pace and CUNY part-time); CUNY full-time and Albany have 25%ile of 151. Your GPA is within the interquartile range for these schools---specifically, between median and 75%ile---and your softs are good, but with a 145, it hardly matters. Absent truly exceptional circumstances, you don't have a good chanc...
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 1:11:17 pm   in: Legal Employment
That seems a sort of apocalyptic response, but you do you.
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Re: Law school and engineering undergrad?  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 12, at 1:07:53 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Can someone please explain to me, at what GPA curve, the standard posted below is? Is it considered a 2.7, or a 2.5? Or something else? And I need to maintain a 2.8 GPA, what ranking/percentile do I need to be in roughly? The top 40%ish? A, A-, B+ 10% - 15% B, B- 35% - 40% (combined A/B grades not to exceed 50%) C+, C 35% - 45% C- & below 5% - 15% The correct answer is don't go anywhere with ...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: KM2016   on: November 12, at 1:06:28 pm   in: Legal Employment
The "looming recession" is just a straw man to justify flat bonuses...

https://www.law.com/americanlawyer/2019 ... i-reports/
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: UnfrozenCaveman   on: November 12, at 1:03:35 pm   in: Legal Employment

nixy wrote:You think people who need jobs aren’t going to apply to this firm because they’ve been slow to reimburse the OP?

Yes--that is exactly what I meant.

Or, you know, if there are other options, you can avoid requiring reimbursement directly from the firm.
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Conditional scholarship curve?  
  by:   on: November 12, at 12:52:49 pm   in: Ask a Law Student / Graduate
Can someone please explain to me, at what GPA curve, the standard posted below is? Is it considered a 2.7, or a 2.5? Or something else?

And I need to maintain a 2.8 GPA, what ranking/percentile do I need to be in roughly? The top 40%ish?
A, A-, B+ 10% - 15%
B, B- 35% - 40% (combined A/B grades not to exceed 50%)
C+, C 35% - 45%
C- & below 5% - 15%
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by:   on: November 12, at 12:50:19 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:In DPW we trust.

Not gonna happen. New managing attorney, new lawsuit. No way. STB FTW!
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Re: Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: papermateflair   on: November 12, at 12:36:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
Is it possible to move from a well respected boutique or medium sized law firm (think top 3 boutique in major market within relevant practice group) to big law after 2-3 years? Does anyone have any insight on how to make this move? Also is it worth it for the money? Totally possible. Maybe not at the most elite of big law firms, like a V5 or something, but I think most big law firms will give you...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: lionelhutz123   on: November 12, at 12:32:26 pm   in: Legal Employment
In DPW we trust.
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 12:28:25 pm   in: Legal Employment
You think people who need jobs aren’t going to apply to this firm because they’ve been slow to reimburse the OP?
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: yodamiked   on: November 12, at 12:17:52 pm   in: Legal Employment
Looks like Fried Frank matched. I didn't have much hope to begin with, but I think the dream of a bonus increase is now dead.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 12:16:20 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Anybody got an update on this? I am guessing since 11th was a holiday they just got back to work today. With the DCC in two months, it seems really late in the game to still be in the dark for everything as far as being seated and assignments and all. Well, last week it was this week to get the preference list — so my expectation is to hear something Thursday or Friday. As far as I’ve seen in the...
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Re: 145 LSAT & 3.42 GPA  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: November 12, at 12:02:36 pm   in: What are my chances?
It's pretty simple. You need to improve your LSAT by at least 15 points. There is no "trick" to getting into any of these schools. Just crush the LSAT.
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: UnfrozenCaveman   on: November 12, at 11:51:21 am   in: Legal Employment
Alerting the forum to the name of the firm could help others at least avoid this situation.
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Re: 2.42 GPA and 148 LSAT  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: November 12, at 11:44:48 am   in: What are my chances?
My brother in law is a sports agent and is not a lawyer. You don't gain anything by being a lawyer. The only benefit is that you can technically give advice pertaining to the contract a player might sign, but the reality is that your advice is going to be deemed useless even if you went to Harvard because you don't have specific experience practicing contract law. Consequently, there is really not...
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Re: How to move in-house?  
  by: shock259   on: November 12, at 10:48:50 am   in: In-House
(1) I get that I will probably have to switch practice groups. But to what? Corporate? Regulatory? (2) How, in practice, does one go about switching practice groups? Do you just say "I want to do something else," or does one have to spin his or her experience as relevant to the new group? I would likely be switching firms so please take that into account as well. (3) Does the practice a...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 10:31:50 am   in: Legal Employment
PW matched.
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: shock259   on: November 12, at 10:27:59 am   in: Legal Employment
Just keep following up. Or find new people to email. And start calling as well. I'm sure they'll eventually pay it.
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:57:36 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Active Army. Anxiously waiting to see whether I have been seated for January 2020 class. Anybody have insider info for when we will be notified? Not insider, but was told by JARO that those of us seated for January should be getting the preferences list email around the 1st or 2nd week of November. You could just shoot an email or call up Cpt. MacDonald and see how that’s progressing. Let us know...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:56:56 am   in: Public Interest & Government
Anon AUSA above. I’m sorry to say that I have no idea. I’ve never heard it mentioned or discussed. That said, when I’ve gone to national trainings for AUSAs I would say I’ve seen more people with visible disabilities than I typically do in crowds of lawyers, but beyond that I can’t say.
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Boutique/Medium Size Firm to Biglaw?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 9:50:10 am   in: Legal Employment
Is it possible to move from a well respected boutique or medium sized law firm (think top 3 boutique in major market within relevant practice group) to big law after 2-3 years? Does anyone have any insight on how to make this move? Also is it worth it for the money?
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020 (non-DOJ)  
  by: shenan9944   on: November 12, at 9:04:03 am   in: Public Interest & Government

xmgr wrote:Anybody heard any more from NOAA?

I have a video interview with NOAA today. I got the invite last week.
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 12, at 8:39:26 am   in: Legal Employment
Sorry for posting anon, pure paranoia and self-consciousness about being identified. I’m thinking about my finances going forward and wanted to solicit TLS thoughts. Debt at graduation: $207k ($92k to parents, which is a sweetheart loan but I do actually have to pay it back, and $115 in fed loans) Interest rates: ~5.8% for the Feds, 2.5% for the family Income: $195k (i.e. biglaw 1st year associat...
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Re: 145 LSAT & 3.42 GPA  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 12, at 7:33:34 am   in: What are my chances?
Do not go to any law school that would accept you with a 145.
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Re: Chances for t14  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 12, at 7:32:30 am   in: What are my chances?
You still want to be in the 170s to have a decent shot at HYS. And you'd be a fool to not do everything you can to break into that score tier, because you'll start to open up the possibility of a full ride at CCN.

And no matter what, get broader with your target schools.
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Re: Question about transferring schools  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 12, at 7:30:35 am   in: What are my chances?
In order:

-Don't go to law school if you don't want to be a practicing lawyer.
-Specialty programs are meaningless.
-Don't go to law school if you don't want to be a practicing lawyer.
-You cannot count on performing well in law school based on one year of acting like an adult in undergrad.
-Don't go to law school if you don't want to be a practicing lawyer.
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Re: Laid Off- How screwed am I?  
  by: nixy   on: November 12, at 6:58:55 am   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I know the rescinded offer sounds unbelievable, but it's completely true. I was in shock. My questions related to business development at the firm. They said "you asked too many questions, we would expect that of an incoming equity partner, but not an associate." Now I'm working in midlaw doing a 12 hour day for 130k. Pretty miserable. I should have listened when people said do...
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Re: Best Schools for Government Work Post-Grad  
  by:   on: November 12, at 3:34:01 am   in: Choosing a Law School
Another addendum - if you can get into a top law school, by all means that route is good. But it is no way a guarantee to go into federal service because you'll have to remember that you are competing with all of the other top law school grads who went to clerkships over multiple years to get spots. If you do go to one, just be sure to put as much federal service on your resume as possible. If you...
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Re: Laid Off- How screwed am I?  
  by: sparty99   on: November 12, at 12:44:34 am   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I know the rescinded offer sounds unbelievable, but it's completely true. I was in shock. My questions related to business development at the firm. They said "you asked too many questions, we would expect that of an incoming equity partner, but not an associate." Now I'm working in midlaw doing a 12 hour day for 130k. Pretty miserable. I should have listened when people said do...
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Re: 2.42 GPA and 148 LSAT  
  by: Pennoyer v. Meh   on: November 12, at 12:30:33 am   in: What are my chances?
So, a few issues. First of all, sports law is an incredibly niche practice, and it's not like Marquette guarantees that outcome for anyone to begin with (no law school does, but you seem focused on Marquette). Second, with that GPA/LSAT, any school you get in to won't likely lead to a good career outcome. And you certainly, certainly, certainly cannot assume that you'll (1) get good grades or (2) ...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: dyemond   on: November 12, at 12:29:41 am   in: Legal Employment
DPW, Skadden, STB aren't going to raise, K&E will remain 25-33% above market (no 2017 cushion).

Most firms are expecting a mild-ish recession. Cravath and Milbank are getting out ahead of a potential (although unlikely) raise - assuming DPW or STB fall in line that will be the market for the year.
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Re: 145 LSAT & 3.42 GPA  
  by: Pennoyer v. Meh   on: November 12, at 12:23:22 am   in: What are my chances?
Don't do anything with a 145. Or the schools that you listed, period. It's not gonna be worth it.
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145 LSAT & 3.42 GPA  
  by:   on: November 11, at 10:22:09 pm   in: What are my chances?
I live in NYC and only applying to law schools located in NY state for Fall 2020. My top law school choices are CUNY Law, Albany Law, and Pace Law. With a 3.42 GPA, a Master's Degree, and 2+ years of full-time work experience at a non-profit organization, what are the realistic chances of getting accepted to any of these schools? Any advice or feedback would be appreciated. ***Note that I will be ...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 10:01:41 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Re: DOL
Nope- I’m the anon above who had a phone interview post-OCI. They said they would make decisions November-December, I didn’t get the impression there would be an in-person interview round but I could be wrong.
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Re: at what point would you give up?  
  by: Knycaolaw   on: November 11, at 9:57:19 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Please don’t give up. I know how you feel, I failed the bar exam 3 times before I finally passed and there were many times I wanted to quit too but I didn’t. The truth is you need 2 things. One is that you really do need to find a way to give yourself the time you need to study as stress-free as possible. 2 months or even a little longer if possible. The second is that you need to look at studying...
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Re: Laid Off- How screwed am I?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 9:50:42 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I know the rescinded offer sounds unbelievable, but it's completely true. I was in shock. My questions related to business development at the firm. They said "you asked too many questions, we would expect that of an incoming equity partner, but not an associate." Now I'm working in midlaw doing a 12 hour day for 130k. Pretty miserable. I should have listened when people said do...
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Re: Laid Off- How screwed am I?  
  by: 2013   on: November 11, at 9:48:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I know the rescinded offer sounds unbelievable, but it's completely true. I was in shock. My questions related to business development at the firm. They said "you asked too many questions, we would expect that of an incoming equity partner, but not an associate." Now I'm working in midlaw doing a 12 hour day for 130k. Pretty miserable. I should have listened when people said do...
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Re: Laid Off- How screwed am I?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 9:40:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
OP here. I know the rescinded offer sounds unbelievable, but it's completely true. I was in shock. My questions related to business development at the firm. They said "you asked too many questions, we would expect that of an incoming equity partner, but not an associate." Now I'm working in midlaw doing a 12 hour day for 130k. Pretty miserable. I should have listened when people said don...
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Re: SA Housing Swap Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 9:19:07 pm   in: 1st Year and 2nd Year Summer
Looking for a summer sublet in DC for summer 2020. Late May to late July. ~preferably~ a studio or 1bdr.

Message me if you're going somewhere else for the summer and trying to sublet your place.
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 9:04:13 pm   in: Legal Employment
SRZ sent Kindles and a nice hoodie last year.
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Re: Question about transferring schools  
  by:   on: November 11, at 7:13:09 pm   in: What are my chances?
Just a few more things to consider. I am trying to be a sports agent. While a law degree is not necessary it is extremely helpful and almost all of the top agents have one. Because of this, I would not say I need to be in a T14 school to get a job at one of places I am looking to work at. I am not trying to be a traditional lawyer. Marquette would be my dream scenario because of their sports law p...
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Re: LSAT writing sample  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 11, at 7:02:56 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
No one reads it.
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Chances for t14  
  by:   on: November 11, at 6:59:10 pm   in: What are my chances?
I have a perfect GPA (4.0/4.0) at the University of Virginia; I have gotten an A in every single class, majoring in Political Science. I have a pretty good resume, with internships including a two-year judicial clerkship (the judge will write a letter of rec. for me), as well as at another firm. I have also studied abroad at University of Oxford, conducting political and legal research with Oxford...
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LSAT writing sample  
  by: yyfhailey   on: November 11, at 6:13:57 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Is it a huge problem if I feel I have screwed up my digital LSAT writing sample?
If my writing sample is far worse than my personal statement, will the discrepancy bring disadvantages to my application?

Any reply will be desperately appreciated!
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 5:54:22 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
If your reference hasn’t been checked yet, I do not think you need to worry. Based on past post from Deana in the community forum, she has said components vary on timing in regards to checking references. It is up to the components discretion on when, some even checking references after determining finalists. Also, today was Veterans Day, meaning the Federal Government was closed today, so I doubt...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: yodamiked   on: November 11, at 5:18:42 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Cravath announced. Flat across the board for both bonus and base.

That was quick.
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 5:04:27 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Any reference checks from crim?
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: lionelhutz123   on: November 11, at 4:29:23 pm   in: Legal Employment
Davis Polk going to come back over the top to rebut their racial discrimination lawsuit PR.
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Bristow fellows announced?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 3:31:51 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Does anyone know if calls have gone out for next year's bristow fellowship? Weren't ding letters already sent by this time last year?
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 3:27:04 pm   in: Legal Employment
Cravath announced. Flat across the board for both bonus and base.
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 3:26:38 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Be careful what you wish for, as this is not the job it was several years ago or even one year ago. Changes imposed by management have greatly increased the amount of work trademark examiners are expected to do without any corresponding increase in compensation. This is an issue at the hiring level of GS-11 and it gets progressively worse as you ascend to a GS-14. Production rates that may have be...
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Re: Law school and engineering undergrad?  
  by:   on: November 11, at 3:04:37 pm   in: Law School FAQ
It's not really an excuse, it's a forced curve (at most undergraduate institutions) that sets the average for most intensive technical classes at a B- or C+ average. That's around a 2.5. It's like telling a law student not to accept the excuse that 75% of their class won't be in the top quarter. I'm not suggesting that the difficulties of maintaining a good GPA in engineering aren't real. I'm jus...
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Re: December 1, December 15  
  by:   on: November 11, at 2:40:20 pm   in: Law School Admissions Forum
Rolling admissions means seats are constantly getting filled and scholarship money is constantly getting earmarked. You're marginally worse off with every week that passes from late September/early October (about when apps start getting read in earnest) to whenever the deadline is. These tiny marginal differences are hard to assess because they're unlikely to be matter, but when they do the outco...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 11, at 2:25:35 pm   in: Legal Employment
if this were 2001, you would be right. however, cravath hasn't been a comp leader for more than a decade now. The last 3 comp leaders (which takes us back to the 160 scale) were gunderson, stb/dpw, and milbank. Didn't Cravath raise to 180 in mid-2016? that's fair, you're right. i still stand by the general thrust of my post. CSM isn't the undisputed comp leader anymore. STB and DPW both are just ...
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 2:15:50 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone who interviewed for the USTP had their references checked?
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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 2:03:14 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Any idea of when we are getting the request for written statements? And any advice on that? It seems that based on the posts from the past, we could be getting them as early as today. Good luck everyone. For last year's cycle it was generally in 3-week steps: Apps close, (3 weeks), Written Statement Requests, (3 weeks), Interview invites, (3-4 weeks), Interviews, (3-4 weeks), Reference calls &...
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 1:59:19 pm   in: Legal Employment
haven't gotten anything :/
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: BrainsyK   on: November 11, at 1:48:54 pm   in: Legal Employment

dabigchina wrote:if this were 2001, you would be right. however, cravath hasn't been a comp leader for more than a decade now. The last 3 comp leaders (which takes us back to the 160 scale) were gunderson, stb/dpw, and milbank.

Didn't Cravath raise to 180 in mid-2016?
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: dabigchina   on: November 11, at 1:01:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
My prediction is that Cravath will come over the top now — even if they were not planning to before. Cravath is the BigLaw comp leader, and will put the maverick Milbank in its place. When Milbank raised to 190K last year and STB added summer bonuses, Cravath still had the final word. I don’t think they’ll stand by and allow it to be called the Milbank scale. Not many folks realize perception is ...
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Re: Callback to Offer timeline for Northern Virginia Big Law?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 12:28:45 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:If anecdata is actually helpful to you, I had CB—>offer of approximately one week a couple years ago at a NOVA Biglaw firm.

That is helpful, thank you! I know my sample size is small but I'm glad I could find someone who had a similar experience.
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 12:23:54 pm   in: Legal Employment
Partners at my V30 have told me the firm is preparing with the expectation of a recession in early/mid-2020. If other firms are thinking the same, I would not expect an increase this year.

My more optimistic take: a well-situated firm could use a bump now as a chance to further separate the wheat from the chaff, since some firms probably couldn't keep up.
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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2019-2020  
  by: Bleepbloop10731   on: November 11, at 12:19:18 pm   in: Public Interest & Government

Anonymous User wrote:Based on Deana’s post, finalist designations should start going out soon.

My references have not been called. I interviewed during the first week. I’m guessing that means I’m not going to be a finalist. Anyone else still waiting on reference checks?

I interviewed in the second week. No reference checks yet. I am also taking this as an indication I will not be selected as a finalist.
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Re: Student loan payments: get advice and actual numbers here  
  by:   on: November 11, at 12:16:07 pm   in: Legal Employment
Grad year: 2017 Debt @ Graduation: $305k (some undergrad) Current debt: $283k Refi'd my loans with Earnest as a stub year with a 5.43% rate, 20 years, payment around ~$2100. Just refi'd again with Earnest and brought rate down to 4.51%, term is down to 14.5 years, and monthly payment ~$2300. Savings are probably around $20k in cash, and also been maxing 401k since I started. Plan to payoff loans m...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 12:15:39 pm   in: Legal Employment
My prediction is that Cravath will come over the top now — even if they were not planning to before. Cravath is the BigLaw comp leader, and will put the maverick Milbank in its place. When Milbank raised to 190K last year and STB added summer bonuses, Cravath still had the final word. I don’t think they’ll stand by and allow it to be called the Milbank scale. Not many folks realize perception is a...
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 10:05:16 am   in: Legal Employment
Skadden revamped its bag from this thread in a different color.

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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: MillllerTime   on: November 11, at 10:00:20 am   in: Legal Employment
(Shameless prodding this forward) Do we think there will be more announcements this week? Or are the masses waiting for Cravath to make a statement? There's no benefit to being the second mover here, so not sure why anyone else would announce earlier than usual if they are just matching. If someone wants to be a hero (looking at you STB), might make sense to go early, but if a big firm is going o...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by:   on: November 11, at 9:27:42 am   in: Legal Employment
(Shameless prodding this forward)

Do we think there will be more announcements this week? Or are the masses waiting for Cravath to make a statement?
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Re: Military Law  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 8:38:36 am   in: Public Interest & Government
I've never known him to answer his phone and it does not have voicemail.

The best way to contact Cpt. MacDonald is email from my experience.
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Re: Question about transferring schools  
  by: LSATWiz.com   on: November 11, at 8:15:06 am   in: What are my chances?
Admission #'s are somewhat predictive of 1L grades so it would be a mistake to assume you will just have the best academic performance of your life. I think the question is why would you have a 2.6 GPA in college and get a majority of questions on the LSAT wrong, but somehow be #1 in your class. Further, your numbers are so low that the schools you'd get into will limit your ability to transfer ev...
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Re: Callback to Offer timeline for Northern Virginia Big Law?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 11, at 6:46:56 am   in: Legal Employment
If anecdata is actually helpful to you, I had CB—>offer of approximately one week a couple years ago at a NOVA Biglaw firm.
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10 Questions about Practice Exams  
  by: nyc2020   on: November 11, at 1:30:26 am   in: Forum for Law School Students
As a 1L, I’ve heard the encouragement to do practice exams. I’ve done 10 so far, but I feel lost as to where to go from here. Here are 10 specific questions I have, the answers for which I haven’t found in my online searches. Please feel free to answer some/all. 1. Which is more efficient for a daily routine: 1 four-hour exam or 4 one-hour exams? 2. Beyond using the word “because,” are there any u...
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Re: Midlaw compensation progression?  
  by: BlackAndOrange84   on: November 10, at 11:33:27 pm   in: Legal Employment
$5k per year is fairly typical.
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 11:16:13 pm   in: Legal Employment

Anonymous User wrote:Quarter-zip Sidley Patagonias last year!

Same this year (an e-mail was sent out requesting sizing information a couple weeks back) except we can choose quarter-zip or full zip.
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Re: Callback to Offer timeline for Northern Virginia Big Law?  
  by: UnfrozenCaveman   on: November 10, at 8:14:38 pm   in: Legal Employment
Isn't the sample size to this like 2?
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Re: Midlaw compensation progression?  
  by: Pompeii   on: November 10, at 8:03:14 pm   in: Legal Employment
I looked at going to a smaller office a V100 located in a mid-sized city. Here's what I have on their data from approximately two years ago. The market there is stagnant so I doubt much has changed.
Year 1 - 100k
Year 2 - 110k
Year 3 - 115k
Year 4 - 125k
Year 5 - 135k
Year 6 - 145k
Year 7 - 155k
Year 8 - 165k
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Re: Biglaw w kids - any positive stories??  
  by: LBJ's Hair   on: November 10, at 7:28:36 pm   in: Legal Employment
I agree with the general thrust of the posts some people are making in this thread: You're not gonna traumatize your children by seeing them for only 30 min M-F. I really only saw my father on weekends until high school. We weren't rich. His commute was just awful. One of my exes was basically raised by her grandparents---dad worked overseas, mom had rough hours at a hospital. Other friends went t...
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Re: Honors Attorney Program 2019-2020 (non-DOJ)  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 7:14:25 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Has anyone heard any updates from DOL?
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 6:53:24 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Quick question. How much does it help to apply under Section A (i.e., disability hiring) when applying to AUSA positions?
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Callback to Offer timeline for Northern Virginia Big Law?  
  by: DC2NY2x   on: November 10, at 6:24:00 pm   in: Legal Employment
Hey, so I had a callback last week with a large firm in northern virginia (think reston/tysons) and was wondering when i should start to worry.
Could the timeline be different now that hiring season is drawing to a close? If anyone works in NoVA for a large firm and started there as a Summer, feel free to share your own callback -> offer timeline.
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 5:08:20 pm   in: Legal Employment
Quarter-zip Sidley Patagonias last year!
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 4:28:40 pm   in: Legal Employment
I got a messenger bag from DPW a few years ago.
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Re: 2L Summer Associate Holiday Gifts?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 4:14:58 pm   in: Legal Employment
Incoming PW SA: We got a (surprisingly very nice!) fleece throw blanket.
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Re: Chances for GRE Applicant T14  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 10, at 4:11:09 pm   in: What are my chances?

gaflaher wrote:My original plan was to pursue a master's overseas before enrolling in law school. I do want to be a lawyer.

That seems like a weird way of going about it, but regardless, I'd strongly suggest taking the LSAT to make sure you're giving yourself a wider range of school options.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Lawstudent312   on: November 10, at 2:12:52 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is it easier to pass by taking the full default florida bar or by transferring your mbe score ?
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Re: How quickly do firms respond to recruiter submissions?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 10:22:43 am   in: Legal Employment
In my experience, if you’re working with a recruiter that can’t get you a response ASAP, that recruiter is just randomly submitting you to firms without having any connections. When I interviewed for a firm through a recruiter, the partner told me in confidence that he had never spoken to the recruiter before and he wanted to meet with me to tell me not to use a recruiter if at all possible. This ...
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Re: Chances for GRE Applicant T14  
  by: gaflaher   on: November 10, at 10:11:10 am   in: What are my chances?
A few thoughts... I'm applying a bit late in the cycle after some other opportunities didn't pan out. What other opportunities? Do you actually want to be a lawyer, or is this a backup plan? This is kind of related to the question of why you're applying with the GRE instead of the LSAT. The standards for admission for a GRE-only applicant are unclear, but it looks like these applicants normally h...
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Re: Chances for GRE Applicant T14  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 10, at 9:47:49 am   in: What are my chances?
A few thoughts... I'm applying a bit late in the cycle after some other opportunities didn't pan out. What other opportunities? Do you actually want to be a lawyer, or is this a backup plan? This is kind of related to the question of why you're applying with the GRE instead of the LSAT. The standards for admission for a GRE-only applicant are unclear, but it looks like these applicants normally ha...
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Re: Firm Refuses/Keeps Forgetting to Reimburse Callback  
  by: Fingerscrossed11   on: November 10, at 9:22:06 am   in: Legal Employment
First, to be clear, let me say that I would absolutely not let go of a promised reimbursement. That said, the allusions ITT to suing the firm are way over the top, IMO. Suing a (potential) employer, in practice, is likely to have major ramifications for one's career (fairly or unfairly - I think unfairly, but I don't make the rules). There are scenarios where it may be worth it, but a $600 reimbu...
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Chances for GRE Applicant T14  
  by: gaflaher   on: November 10, at 9:12:43 am   in: What are my chances?
I'm applying a bit late in the cycle after some other opportunities didn't pan out. GPA: 3.76 Triple major in math, econ, and philosophy (Have compelling personal reasons for it being low - father released from prison and began harassing me, mother had a heart attack, became housing insecure) GRE: 170V/161Q Softs: Marshall finalist, founded nonprofit featured in NYT, helped successfully sue a stat...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 10, at 9:08:28 am   in: Public Interest & Government
1 Was the 3-7 year mark where they started applying or was that when their applications started getting traction? 2 did any of the folks you worked with go back to being a DA/clerk/take some random job because they couldn’t take the locals anymore? 1) no idea for anyone but myself since people don’t usually advertise when they start applying. That was when I started applying. 2) No. Not at all. I...
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Re: Question about transferring schools  
  by: cavalier1138   on: November 10, at 7:19:32 am   in: What are my chances?
What makes you think you're likely to get good grades in law school?
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Re: Question about transferring schools  
  by: dvlthndr   on: November 10, at 3:32:27 am   in: What are my chances?
Your numbers are a good "fit" for the infamous Thomas Jefferson School of Law (median 2.8 GPA and 147 LSAT). For a ~$150k price tag, they offer some of the worst job outcomes and bar passage rates in the country. That said, ABA reports show the top 15% or so of the class transfers out. They are usually transferring to T50-T70 range schools. However, you can search this forum and find exa...
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Re: Question about transferring schools  
  by: enz2103   on: November 10, at 1:16:57 am   in: What are my chances?
No clue about transferring, but why not just do what I and many others did: study hard and retake the LSAT?
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Re: Question about transferring schools  
  by: The Lsat Airbender   on: November 10, at 12:59:27 am   in: What are my chances?
Not realistic.
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Re: Florida Bar Exam - Official Thread  
  by: Derek Vinyard   on: November 10, at 12:53:34 am   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
I passed the UBE in February 2019. Could someone confirm something for me? I'm planning on taking the February 2020 Florida Bar Exam... (1) Am I right that I can (now) transfer my MBE (146.1)? If so, what day is the Florida section (their essays & multiple choice)? (2) What is the best way to study for the Florida section? (i.e. materials, etc.) Thanks! This is what I am trying to figure out,...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: andythefir   on: November 9, at 11:44:01 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
1 Was the 3-7 year mark where they started applying or was that when their applications started getting traction?

2 did any of the folks you worked with go back to being a DA/clerk/take some random job because they couldn’t take the locals anymore?
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Re: Midlaw compensation progression?  
  by: Wubbles   on: November 9, at 11:33:49 pm   in: Legal Employment
I summered at a similar firm in a similar sounding market with 100k starting pay. From what I gathered, standard raises were 5k max per year, but they weren't guaranteed. Bonuses were 5k-10k max, and also were not guaranteed and didn't sound like they were given out unless someone truly went above and beyond on their billables for the year (i.e. my senior associate friend at the firm cleared 2200 ...
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Re: How to move in-house?  
  by: kaiser   on: November 9, at 10:12:34 pm   in: In-House
(1) Typically the corporate groups have an easier pipeline into in-house positions. The only litigation-focused group that has lots of in-house options tends to be labor & employment since every large company and organization (and many smaller companies) have in-house employment counsel. (2) I can speak to this since I did it myself. I was placed into a general litigation group even though I w...
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Re: PSA: Do not pay full price for a bar course - Negotiate w/Barbri, Themis, etc. Instead  
  by: rcharter1978   on: November 9, at 9:43:04 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
when I passed the CBX the second time, I used barbri study materials, a writing tutor, the red PT book, adaptibar and critical pass flashcards peripherally. I had access to a repeaters program (not run by barbri), but only used this for timed practice tests. I used barbri exclusively the first time and that was a mistake for me. Barbri, IMO, has the best study materials. The CMR and the big green ...
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Re: Passed NY bar awhile ago but not admitted - why?  
  by: Lawstudent312   on: November 9, at 9:14:27 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
It takes time to get admitted but makes no sense to wait years. Wasnt that the reason you went to law school?
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 9, at 9:06:22 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
1 what was the most common time people without ties to the region left? 2 what was the most common job the people who left took? 1 - I'd say three years on up. Mostly 3-7ish, but with an outlier group of people with more like 12-15+ years experience in the office. 2 - For the first group, definitely AUSA in another district, followed by Main Justice. One is now a PD, which is what they did before...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: lavarman84   on: November 9, at 8:10:21 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Anon b/c I have the experience you're looking for, although my caveat is that I moved out of a border district before Trump was elected, so I'm sure things have changed. There can be some variation in how offices handle this caseload. The basic reactive caseload is 1325/6s, alien smuggling (sorry, I use the term "alien" b/c it's in the statute/how the offices refer to it), and drugs com...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: andythefir   on: November 9, at 7:53:59 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Not really - I applied to two offices, made it through the first cut at the other one (made a strategic error in the interview that I think sunk me at that stage) and got this one. In part I know my recommenders advocated for me really hard. (For instance, my current office does a LOT of drug cases and one of the grand poobahs was concerned that I hadn’t done a wiretap case. My mentor was like “t...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 9, at 7:40:21 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Not really - I applied to two offices, made it through the first cut at the other one (made a strategic error in the interview that I think sunk me at that stage) and got this one. In part I know my recommenders advocated for me really hard. (For instance, my current office does a LOT of drug cases and one of the grand poobahs was concerned that I hadn’t done a wiretap case. My mentor was like “th...
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Re: How to move in-house?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 9, at 6:53:54 pm   in: In-House
I can only respond to (1) and (2). I think you're still junior enough as a second year associate that a lot of firms would be willing to "re-tool" you into another practice group, provided that there is a need. From my own experience and talking with recruiters, it's much harder to do after you become a third year associate. If in-house is the goal, you need to switch to a corporate prac...
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Midlaw compensation progression?  
  by: olemiss18   on: November 9, at 6:00:02 pm   in: Legal Employment
I'm a 2L who accepted a summer associate position at a midlaw (think small biglaw rather than big small-law if that makes sense; the firm operates like a biglaw firm but has just shy of 100 attorneys) in a not expensive city. My SO also accepted a 2L SA in the same city. Neither of us have ties to the city but we both want to be in this region long-term. The city seems great and we think we'd want...
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How to move in-house?  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 9, at 5:02:56 pm   in: In-House
Sorry if this has been covered before (if so, please point me to any relevant threads), but I want to eventually get an in-house job with great lifestyle benefits (think 9-5 with no evening/weekend work and at least around $150K in compensation). I'm currently a second year restructuring associate at a V50 firm, and I know that it would be hard to get an in-house job directly from my current pract...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: beepboopbeep   on: November 9, at 4:45:23 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Thanks a lot, anon -- very helpful and informative. My main reservation about it at the moment is what you mentioned about people frequently moving out of the area for personal reasons -- for family reasons, I don't think I could be in a border district longterm, but it might be doable for a couple years. I've read some other posts on this forum about it sometimes being challenging to move to othe...
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Re: Failed by 1pt and then .5pt  
  by: rcharter1978   on: November 9, at 4:19:29 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Is there not an option for a hand regrade? I'm California I think you can have your materials regraded by hand (for a small fee of course) if you are like 5 points within passing or something like that. If I was a half a point away from passing and that was an option id do that.
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Re: 3rd Time Bar Failure - Advice  
  by: rcharter1978   on: November 9, at 4:14:46 pm   in: Bar Exam Prep and Discussion Forum
Hello there. This is my 4th time failing the Florida Bar. It has been rough on me, watching my fellow colleagues surpass me, get sworn in and start practicing time after time. This bar, due to the failure, I lost our on a job I was so very much looking forward to in the field I love. ...I feel like a failure, a burden to those around me and like I'm a loser. I feel like those around me look at me...
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Re: 2019 - Bonus Speculation Thread  
  by: Monochromatic Oeuvre   on: November 9, at 3:27:56 pm   in: Legal Employment
LOL the ten-year stink. Do you bubbled speculators realize that even most T14 kids wind up at law school because they can’t think of anything else to do after college or don’t see a way forward in some dead-end job? Might be as little as two years from when someone thinks about the legal industry for the first time to when they do OCI. Most people just pick the highest Vault firm; they don’t even ...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: Anonymous User   on: November 9, at 3:16:55 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Anon b/c I have the experience you're looking for, although my caveat is that I moved out of a border district before Trump was elected, so I'm sure things have changed. There can be some variation in how offices handle this caseload. The basic reactive caseload is 1325/6s, alien smuggling (sorry, I use the term "alien" b/c it's in the statute/how the offices refer to it), and drugs comi...
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Re: AUSA/USAO hiring  
  by: beepboopbeep   on: November 9, at 1:15:30 pm   in: Public Interest & Government
Considering applying for a border district sometime in the future -- I'd be curious to hear from an AUSA/former AUSA who practiced in a border district about how boring the 1325/1326s really are. My exposure to them is limited, but it seems like since the guilt side is so straightforward, the interesting parts are going to be whatever creative defenses the FPDs/etc come up with. Also, what's the r...
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