4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

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4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby acardsfan1 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:31 pm

I was not planning applying until next fall, but I have changed my mind. Assuming I can get all of my materials together by Mid-December, what are t14 chances with those numbers if I apply at this point in the process? Am I significantly hurting myself at Berkeley, Penn, Michigan, Duke, VA, Cornell, and GT by applying now rather than earlier? Thanks for any help you can give!

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby Dialogue » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:36 pm

Apply this year, you'll be fine. The whole "apply early" thing is overdone on this board.

You'll be in at several T14s, with a good chance at $$$.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby JollyGreenGiant » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:21 pm

If those are the schools you want then it should be fine.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby im_blue » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:39 am

Why aren't you applying to CCN as well? You should get into at least one, if not all 3 of them.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby Moxie » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:17 pm

im_blue wrote:Why aren't you applying to CCN as well? You should get into at least one, if not all 3 of them.


Or Stanford? Your odds aren't great, but they're good enough to apply.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby acardsfan1 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:04 pm

With regards to CCN or Stanford, I worry a bit about my softs. They are decent, but won't blow anyone away. Also, I graduated this past May, and so I haven't left a lot of time for extraordinarily meaningful work experience. I am currently working as a Legislative Assistant in the state legislature and will have a full year there by time I enroll, but that seems pretty weak for Northwestern, especially.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby Tanicius » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:05 pm

acardsfan1 wrote:With regards to CCN or Stanford, I worry a bit about my softs. They are decent, but won't blow anyone away. Also, I graduated this past May, and so I haven't left a lot of time for extraordinarily meaningful work experience. I am currently working as a Legislative Assistant in the state legislature and will have a full year there by time I enroll, but that seems pretty weak for Northwestern, especially.


There's no harm in applying though. You've got excellent chances at NYU and Chicago specifically.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby im_blue » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:25 pm

acardsfan1 wrote:With regards to CCN or Stanford, I worry a bit about my softs. They are decent, but won't blow anyone away. Also, I graduated this past May, and so I haven't left a lot of time for extraordinarily meaningful work experience. I am currently working as a Legislative Assistant in the state legislature and will have a full year there by time I enroll, but that seems pretty weak for Northwestern, especially.


You've still got good chances at Chicago and especially NYU.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby kurla88 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:31 pm

Got into Chicago with your numbers and unimpressive softs. Got WLed by Columbia, NYU and Harvard. Definitely apply everywhere!

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby acardsfan1 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:30 pm

I really appreciate all of the help so far. No one thinks applying somewhat late (probably a little before Christmas) is going to be a problem?

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby im_blue » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:50 pm

acardsfan1 wrote:I really appreciate all of the help so far. No one thinks applying somewhat late (probably a little before Christmas) is going to be a problem?


It won't be a problem. It's not early anymore, but it's not late either. Late would be submitting after the holidays and going complete in late January or February.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby johndhi » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:36 pm

you think working with state legislature is a WEAK soft? what the hell is a strong soft, then?

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby randyn » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:38 pm

what Undergrad/major

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby The Dan » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:43 pm

LSP says "Consider" for Harvard and Yale, "Admit" for Stanford, "Strong Consider" for Columbia and NYU, and "Admit" everywhere else. Shoot for the moon.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby acardsfan1 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:42 pm

johndhi wrote:you think working with state legislature is a WEAK soft? what the hell is a strong soft, then?


I sincerely hope the admission committees feel the same way!

randyn, I went to Butler University (small, liberal arts college in Indianapolis) with a major in English literature and minor in Spanish.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby UofO » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:11 pm

Apply to all T-14 - including HYS.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby BasketCaseBrief » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:15 pm

Apply to all T14s. I think you'll be accepted to at least 9 of them (but Yale is a big bee eye teesee aiche). You're going to a fine Ivy, my friend.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby cpunch » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:18 pm

in everywhere except Y and possibly HS

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby Dany » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:22 pm

Just make sure you apply before the huge rush after Dec. LSAT scores are released. You'll do fine.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby JollyGreenGiant » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:40 pm

cpunch wrote:in everywhere except Y and possibly HS


And probably Columbia.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby acardsfan1 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:19 pm

Thank you everyone for all of the advice/opinions. I have everything ready and am just waiting on LORs to be returned before I apply. Is it still a better idea to fax LORs to LSAC?

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby im_blue » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:14 am

acardsfan1 wrote:Thank you everyone for all of the advice/opinions. I have everything ready and am just waiting on LORs to be returned before I apply. Is it still a better idea to fax LORs to LSAC?


Yes, faxing LORs should take a day or two, while mailed LORs can take longer to process.

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby HITeacher2 » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:42 am

Hmm.... I got into CLS, HLS and SLS with basically the exact same stats (retook a 169 to get a 171, so if 171 is your only lsat then you're better off than me) and no work experience. I applied before the economy tanked (I'm in my second year of a TFA deferral) and applied as soon as apps became open though, but I can vouch that you're right on the edge of getting in at top-6 schools. If you had applied earlier on you may have already gotten your JR2, but that's just speculation =p Basically, do not sell yourself short!

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby fidesverita » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:49 am

Tanicius wrote:
acardsfan1 wrote:With regards to CCN or Stanford, I worry a bit about my softs. They are decent, but won't blow anyone away. Also, I graduated this past May, and so I haven't left a lot of time for extraordinarily meaningful work experience. I am currently working as a Legislative Assistant in the state legislature and will have a full year there by time I enroll, but that seems pretty weak for Northwestern, especially.


There's no harm in applying though. You've got excellent chances at NYU and Chicago specifically.


Just curious, why do you say NYU and Chicago? Are they particularly numbers driven?

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Re: 4.0 UGPA, 171 LSAT

Postby fidesverita » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:50 am

im_blue wrote:
acardsfan1 wrote:Thank you everyone for all of the advice/opinions. I have everything ready and am just waiting on LORs to be returned before I apply. Is it still a better idea to fax LORs to LSAC?


Yes, faxing LORs should take a day or two, while mailed LORs can take longer to process.


I talked to the LSAC people, and they said while faxing cuts down on mailing time, they still have heaps of faxes to go through and processing time may ultimately be the same.

So up to your discretion.




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