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3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:22 pm
by Shelby
Hi everyone,

I realize these are great numbers so I'm not looking for validation, but where is likely to get me the most money based on other people's experiences.

I am a division one basketball player, with a long list of other extracurriculars/volunteer work and leadership positions, but no actual job experience. I'm applying to a wide range of schools on purpose (I realize that several are not highly ranked): Stanford, University of Notre Dame, Georgetown, University of Washington, Villanova, Santa Clara University, and might throw an Ivy or two on there just to see if I can get in.

Also, I've heard different advice to either go to the best school you can get into, regardless of money, or to go to the one that makes the most financial sense, so any insight here would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:00 am
by pointplace
You should apply to the best 25 schools in the country. If you don't get in, reapply next year with updated application materials. Go to the best school you are accepted. Hire a scholarship negotiator. Worked well for me (3.9, 168). I was offered several $100k+ scholarships at top 13 schools. Your credentials are possibly better than mine. Don't settle.

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:22 am
by Shelby
pointplace wrote:You should apply to the best 25 schools in the country. If you don't get in, reapply next year with updated application materials. Go to the best school you are accepted. Hire a scholarship negotiator. Worked well for me (3.9, 168). I was offered several $100k+ scholarships at top 13 schools. Your credentials are possibly better than mine. Don't settle.


Thanks so much! If you don't mind, which schools gave you those scholarships?

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:02 am
by pointplace
Shelby wrote:
pointplace wrote:You should apply to the best 25 schools in the country. If you don't get in, reapply next year with updated application materials. Go to the best school you are accepted. Hire a scholarship negotiator. Worked well for me (3.9, 168). I was offered several $100k+ scholarships at top 13 schools. Your credentials are possibly better than mine. Don't settle.


Thanks so much! If you don't mind, which schools gave you those scholarships?


I was given scholarships (ranging from $60k - $150k) at U Chicago, Penn, Duke, Berkeley, and Northwestern. I only applied to the top 13 schools.

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:09 am
by LSATWiz.com
You don't need a scholarship negotiator. A 3.9, 168 is naturally going to get 100k scholarships because they exceed one #, and hit the median of another. The only way you'd need a scholarship negotiator with those numbers is if your PS is about your commitment to the alt-right movement, a love of crystal meth or something similarly weird. You will get into a lot of t-14's with those #'s, and a non-weirdo application.

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:30 am
by albanach
pointplace wrote:You should apply to the best 25 schools in the country. If you don't get in, reapply next year with updated application materials. Go to the best school you are accepted. Hire a scholarship negotiator. Worked well for me (3.9, 168). I was offered several $100k+ scholarships at top 13 schools. Your credentials are possibly better than mine. Don't settle.


Ugh. Why would OP apply to the 25 best school in the country? That simply makes no sense.

Here's what OP can expect from the top 25 schools.

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They have a very low chance at Y/S so, absent a fee waiver, why expend the time and pay the money to apply? H is probably worth an application, particularly if OPs financial background is likely to result in a decent amount of need based aid.

Below that, OP can expect a number of schools in the T-14 to offer scholarship packages in the $120k range. Dropping lower is likely to result in, maybe, $50k more in scholarship in return for attending a school with markedly worse career prospects together with what is likely a smaller faculty, fewer rockstar professors, and possibly regional employment reach.

Some of those schools might have specific criteria that appeal to OP and their career goals, but applying to all 25 schools is, in my opinion, a needless waste of time and energy both for OP and for the adcomms reading their application.

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:14 pm
by Shelby
OP here, thank you all for your insights! I think 25 schools is a few too many for me to realistically afford to apply to, but I am considering adding Harvard and some other T14 schools.

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:32 pm
by 5571
Had somewhat similar stats to yours and got six figures from Penn and Michigan last year; I am now at a T3. If you apply to the entire T13 you are very likely to get a significant scholarship from a fantastic school and/or acceptance to one of the best in the country, and if it comes down to that choice it will be a personal decision based on how debt-averse you are and what you want to do with your law degree

Re: 3.799 GPA, 171 LSAT

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:57 pm
by QContinuum
Shelby wrote:OP here, thank you all for your insights! I think 25 schools is a few too many for me to realistically afford to apply to, but I am considering adding Harvard and some other T14 schools.


Agree that there is no good reason for you to apply to 25 schools, but I'd strongly urge you to apply to all of the T13, starting at CCN and down. As you can see from albanach's post, you have an excellent shot at the T13, with an excellent chance of getting substantial $ at one or more. I urge you not to run the risk of missing out on a great admission/scholly offer due to an attempt to save a few hundred bucks on application fees. With your numbers, blanketing the schools ranked 4-13 is a wise investment in your future.