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kiklavan wrote:Above average softs. Went complete in Jan.
Am I automatically out at Columbia? Also, is there a real difference between Columbia and NYU in regards to big law prospects, and am I likely in at NYU?

The best statistical tool I've seen for this puts you at about 1 in 5 chance for C and a coin flip for NYU. https://jscalc.io/calc/zt21YwP4hMpgFuoT

kiklavan wrote:Above average softs. Went complete in Jan.
Am I automatically out at Columbia? Also, is there a real difference between Columbia and NYU in regards to big law prospects, and am I likely in at NYU?

You wont get into either

In at NYU, in at Columbia if you ED (too late I would think). Probably no $ at either.

sparkytrainer wrote:

kiklavan wrote:Above average softs. Went complete in Jan.
Am I automatically out at Columbia? Also, is there a real difference between Columbia and NYU in regards to big law prospects, and am I likely in at NYU?

You wont get into either

Isn’t that kinda brutal? I’m at NYUs median LSAT and almost at their 75th for GPA

Morpheus wrote:In at NYU, in at Columbia if you ED (too late I would think). Probably no $ at either.

Thank you! It’s too late. I can’t decide if it’s worth delaying a cycle to ED to Columbia if I get dinged

LSATuration wrote:

kiklavan wrote:Above average softs. Went complete in Jan.
Am I automatically out at Columbia? Also, is there a real difference between Columbia and NYU in regards to big law prospects, and am I likely in at NYU?

The best statistical tool I've seen for this puts you at about 1 in 5 chance for C and a coin flip for NYU. https://jscalc.io/calc/zt21YwP4hMpgFuoT

Thank you! That’s a great tool

kiklavan wrote:

sparkytrainer wrote:

kiklavan wrote:Above average softs. Went complete in Jan.
Am I automatically out at Columbia? Also, is there a real difference between Columbia and NYU in regards to big law prospects, and am I likely in at NYU?

You wont get into either

Isn’t that kinda brutal? I’m at NYUs median LSAT and almost at their 75th for GPA

Seems like it. MyLSN shows out at Columbia and in at NYU. http://myLSN.info/x799l5_1-13.jpg

J Eazy wrote:

kiklavan wrote:

sparkytrainer wrote:

kiklavan wrote:Above average softs. Went complete in Jan.
Am I automatically out at Columbia? Also, is there a real difference between Columbia and NYU in regards to big law prospects, and am I likely in at NYU?

You wont get into either

Isn’t that kinda brutal? I’m at NYUs median LSAT and almost at their 75th for GPA

Seems like it. MyLSN shows out at Columbia and in at NYU. http://myLSN.info/x799l5_1-13.jpg

Thanks that same info led me to conclude I had a reasonably good chance at NYU

in at NYU, probably out at Columbia, but you'll be paying sticker at both. you'll get big money from the other T13s.

proteinshake wrote:in at NYU, probably out at Columbia, but you'll be paying sticker at both. you'll get big money from the other T13s.

Thank you!

kiklavan wrote:

Morpheus wrote:In at NYU, in at Columbia if you ED (too late I would think). Probably no $ at either.

Thank you! It’s too late. I can’t decide if it’s worth delaying a cycle to ED to Columbia if I get dinged

It would be much smarter to apply RD and apply to most of the lower T14. $$$ at MVPD is almost always a better option than Columbia at sticker.

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:

kiklavan wrote:

Morpheus wrote:In at NYU, in at Columbia if you ED (too late I would think). Probably no $ at either.

Thank you! It’s too late. I can’t decide if it’s worth delaying a cycle to ED to Columbia if I get dinged

It would be much smarter to apply RD and apply to most of the lower T14. $$$ at MVPD is almost always a better option than Columbia at sticker.

agreed. OP, why are you so set on Columbia?

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kiklavan wrote:

proteinshake wrote:

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:

kiklavan wrote:

Morpheus wrote:In at NYU, in at Columbia if you ED (too late I would think). Probably no $ at either.

Thank you! It’s too late. I can’t decide if it’s worth delaying a cycle to ED to Columbia if I get dinged

It would be much smarter to apply RD and apply to most of the lower T14. $$$ at MVPD is almost always a better option than Columbia at sticker.

agreed. OP, why are you so set on Columbia?

I really really want to live in New York and Columbia has always been my dream school. Also it’s considered a better school than NYU so I guess that I feel that I could justify Columbia at sticker vs NYU at sticker. But yeah honestly if I got into NYU I would probably just go

Given the differences in scholarship money you'll probably see, you could take lavish monthly trips to NYC and still come out ahead (not that you should do that necessarily).

01panm wrote:

kiklavan wrote:

proteinshake wrote:

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:

kiklavan wrote:

Morpheus wrote:In at NYU, in at Columbia if you ED (too late I would think). Probably no $ at either.

Thank you! It’s too late. I can’t decide if it’s worth delaying a cycle to ED to Columbia if I get dinged

It would be much smarter to apply RD and apply to most of the lower T14. $$$ at MVPD is almost always a better option than Columbia at sticker.

agreed. OP, why are you so set on Columbia?

I really really want to live in New York and Columbia has always been my dream school. Also it’s considered a better school than NYU so I guess that I feel that I could justify Columbia at sticker vs NYU at sticker. But yeah honestly if I got into NYU I would probably just go

Given the differences in scholarship money you'll probably see, you could take lavish monthly trips to NYC and still come out ahead (not that you should do that necessarily).

Getting scholarship offers from the lower T13 schools will be so painful if NYU really gives me nothing. Is it impossible to use say a hefty scholarship at Mich to negotiate with them?

OP could see some money at NYU, but his best option will likely be something between 120 and 150k further down the t13

kiklavan wrote:

proteinshake wrote:

Slippin' Jimmy wrote:

kiklavan wrote:

Morpheus wrote:In at NYU, in at Columbia if you ED (too late I would think). Probably no $ at either.

Thank you! It’s too late. I can’t decide if it’s worth delaying a cycle to ED to Columbia if I get dinged

It would be much smarter to apply RD and apply to most of the lower T14. $$$ at MVPD is almost always a better option than Columbia at sticker.

agreed. OP, why are you so set on Columbia?

I really really want to live in New York and Columbia has always been my dream school. Also it’s considered a better school than NYU so I guess that I feel that I could justify Columbia at sticker vs NYU at sticker. But yeah honestly if I got into NYU I would probably just go

but do you have to be in NYC for law school? it's not like you'll have a ton of time to take advantage of the city anyway. if you go to a lower T13 with $$$, you can still spend your summers in NYC and definitely get a firm job there after graduation (while saving $200,000)

kiklavan wrote:I really really want to live in New York and Columbia has always been my dream school. Also it’s considered a better school than NYU so I guess that I feel that I could justify Columbia at sticker vs NYU at sticker. But yeah honestly if I got into NYU I would probably just go

In addition to what was already said about not getting hung up on the idea of going to school in a particular location for three years, don't get hung up on a minor difference in a ranking system. NYU and Columbia are peer schools. Picking one over the other for any reason that doesn't involve money is a bad decision.

And as mentioned repeatedly on this thread, you're going to be much better off taking a bigger scholarship at a lower T13, which will get you to NYC for your career just as easily as Columbia or NYU will.

If you want generic NYC Biglaw just go to the cheapest of UVA/Michigan/Duke/Cornell. As others have said you'll get to spend your summers in NYC while saving a boatload of money for the same/very similar outcome that you would get at Columbia/NYU.