Ferrisjso wrote:BigZuck wrote:Ferrisjso wrote:You are in a wonderful position. Can't believe there are people telling a 4.0 with a 165 to retake, smfh. You're going to have some great choices!
What is your argument for the OP not retaking?
OP's GPA is above the 75th of every school in the country. A 4.0 makes up for some of the splitters these schools want to admit. Her LSAT should get her into everything but the T6 with money( and could probably get accepted to at least one of Chicago, Columbia or NYU with little to no money if dead set on it, if shed applied). She didn't apply to the T6 anyway. A 90th percentile plus LSAT score isn't worth waiting a cycle(I'm of the philosophy that taking a year off between undergrad and graduate studies is a terrible idea unless you have a specific reason to do so) to retake unless you need to compensate for the GPA, which is not the case here. The LSAT simply isn't weak enough to keep OP out of almost any school and the opens the door at every single one. If the OP had time to retake without delaying a cycle, I'd say go for it why not, but there's no guarantee that the score will improve(and the OP is skeptical it will)and taking a year off on the chance the score will go up doesn't seem to be worth it. OP has applied to 7 of the T14, will probably be admitted to almost all or all of them and receive various amounts of money from them(look at the 509's) There really is no reason for OP to retake unless they are dead set on one of the 6 schools in the T14 they didn't apply to and are willing to wait a year for a chance(not a guarantee) to be admitted to one. Don't like the retake consensus guilt you into thinking you're making the wrong decision, you're not. If you're happy with one of your options do it, if not wait a year and reapply and/or retake. You're in a great position and don't let the disproportionate amount of people with higher LSAT scores on here fool you into thinking otherwise. You did better than over 90% of LSAT test takers and have a higher GPA that every single person on this thread would do virtually anything for. The fact that people would advise retake on an applicant like this, really weakens the credibility of their arguments. If this applicant should retake that means that every sub 165 LSAT should retake(because they will inherently have an equal or lesser GPA), not to mention people with higher LSAT's and lower GPA's. I understand the market is saturated but in a hypothetical world where students were forced to retake or not go to law school if they were in a situation equal or worse than this over 95% of LSAT test takers would not be going to law school and most of the nations law schools would close(maybe even 1 or 2 of the beloved T14). Best of luck with your applications and I hope you get lots of money from whatever school you like best or decide is the best fit for you!
You consistently give some of the worst advice on this forum.
There is no world in which the OP retaking is a bad idea. Add 5 points, he's got full rides at Cornell and NU. At 10, they've got a shot at full rides at every school except HYS. That's about 200,000 dollars (including interest), not even including increases to potential earnings. You're saying it wouldn't be worth an extra year to make 200k+? Also, they will (I assume) be working and gaining experience during this time, so that's even more money.
OP, I was in a similar situation (4.0, 164 starting point on the LSAT). I took an entire summer, spent a fortune in printing, studied my ass off, and made a 174. It was one of the best decisions I ever made.