~4.3/174- Canadian Student

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~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Tess96 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:26 pm

Hi everyone,

I took my LSAT early on in my undergraduate year, so I am not graduating yet.
I can still rewrite the LSAT before I graduate, and I probably will.
4.3 GPA is just what I have now; I understand that it may change.

What concerns me is that I'm not attending the most elite university. And it's in Canada.
So I feel like the 4.3 GPA is meaningless.
If I wanted to go to law school outside of Canada, what would be my chances?
If I wanted to have some options for out of Canada law schools, should I think about transferring to another university?

Thanks :)

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby txdude45 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:29 pm

GTFO or STFU. Your choice.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Rigo » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:44 pm

Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.

Retaking would have diminishing returns since you're above every median. Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.
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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Tess96 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:53 pm

Dirigo wrote:Wait do you actually have a 174 or is that a hypothetical?
Also, Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.


The 174 I already have.
The chances that I will graduate with a 4.3 is hypothetical.
And it's nice to hear that my GPA will still count, but don't law schools unofficially/officially prefer students from more prestigious universities?

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Rigo » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:54 pm

Tess96 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Wait do you actually have a 174 or is that a hypothetical?
Also, Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.

The 174 I already have.
The chances that I will graduate with a 4.3 is hypothetical.
And it's nice to hear that my GPA will still count, but don't law schools unofficially/officially prefer students from more prestigious universities?

Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.
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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Gray » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:54 pm

Tess96 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Wait do you actually have a 174 or is that a hypothetical?
Also, Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.


The 174 I already have.
The chances that I will graduate with a 4.3 is hypothetical.
And it's nice to hear that my GPA will still count, but don't law schools unofficially/officially prefer students from more prestigious universities?

nope, they don't care. out of curiosity, what's the school?

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Tess96 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:01 pm

Dirigo wrote:
Tess96 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Wait do you actually have a 174 or is that a hypothetical?
Also, Canadian GPA's are reported the same as USA GPA's so it's far from meaningless.

The 174 I already have.
The chances that I will graduate with a 4.3 is hypothetical.
And it's nice to hear that my GPA will still count, but don't law schools unofficially/officially prefer students from more prestigious universities?

Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.


That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Rigo » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:03 pm

Tess96 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

Well those people are dumb, and you'll be laughing your way to Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:03 pm

Just to be clear you've received an A+ in just about every class right?

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby pylon » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:05 pm

Tess96 wrote:What concerns me is that I'm not attending the most elite university. And it's in Canada.
So I feel like the 4.3 GPA is meaningless.

In a tie situation with an otherwise identical candidate, the prestige or rigour of a university might make a difference. But your numbers are so good that you won't be in such a situation. Congrats on the fantastic numbers...

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Tess96 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:12 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:Just to be clear you've received an A+ in just about every class right?


So far, yes, I received A+ in all my classes.
I'm not too sure that I'll graduate with all A+, though. That would be tough.
My aim is to stay in the 4.0-4.3 range.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Tess96 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:14 pm

Dirigo wrote:
Tess96 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

Well those people are dumb, and you'll be laughing your way to Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride.


Since you seem really nice, can I ask another question?
What kind of softs would I need to get into "Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride" ?

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Rigo » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:19 pm

Tess96 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
Tess96 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Your undergrad institution doesn't matter. USA law schools are extremely numbers-based, so it's really 95% LSAT+GPA except at Yale and Stanford, which are both more holistic.

That's really a relief. Thanks for your answers!
I've had so many people tell me that I would need to get close to perfect score on my lsat since my gpa won't matter.

Well those people are dumb, and you'll be laughing your way to Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride.

Since you seem really nice, can I ask another question?
What kind of softs would I need to get into "Harvard or a lower T14 on a full ride" ?

Tbh, nothing. I know k-jd's (no time off between undergrad and law) who have gotten T14 full rides this cycle with similar numbers.
Obviously taking time off to get some work experience can be beneficial personally and professionally, but the bump from an admissions standpoint isn't substantial.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Clearly » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:07 am

Wanna trade lives?

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby ballcaps » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:36 am

lol, enjoy HYS

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby ilikebaseball » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:39 am

not fair that my UG doesnt offer "+'s"

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby mudiverse » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:45 am

How on earth does one get a 4.3 on a 4.0 scale? With an "A+" you go over 4.0?? This is bizarre.

But yeah, all signs point to HYS.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby dabigchina » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:03 am

First humble brag poast of the calendar year?

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Mack.Hambleton » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:17 am

120

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Username123 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:27 am

OP,

You win.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby Kinky John » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:15 pm

OP will always be a poutine-eating universal healthcare-loving canadian though so there's the silver lining for us mere mortals

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby pylon » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:02 am

mudiverse wrote:How on earth does one get a 4.3 on a 4.0 scale? With an "A+" you go over 4.0?? This is bizarre.

But yeah, all signs point to HYS.

Yeah, LSAC awards A+ as 4.33, and A as 4.00.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby victory » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:23 am

Tess96 wrote:Hi everyone,

I took my LSAT early on in my undergraduate year, so I am not graduating yet.


Just out of curiosity, what year are you?

Also,
Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.
Are k-jds out of the running for a Hamilton? Hadn't heard that before, but I never really looked into it.

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby RZ5646 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:51 am

Victory wrote:Also,
Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.
Are k-jds out of the running for a Hamilton? Hadn't heard that before, but I never really looked into it.


Also curious about this. Is there any evidence to support this claim, or is it just one of those things buzzing around the TLS hivemind because someone said it once years ago?

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Re: ~4.3/174- Canadian Student

Postby js1663 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:04 am

RZ5646 wrote:
Victory wrote:Also,
Since you're going to be a k-jd, a Hamilton isn't really in the cards anyways.
Are k-jds out of the running for a Hamilton? Hadn't heard that before, but I never really looked into it.


Also curious about this. Is there any evidence to support this claim, or is it just one of those things buzzing around the TLS hivemind because someone said it once years ago?


Never heard this before, and a quick google search reveals that this likely isn't true (or at least it's not an absolute rule)

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