Is Harvard worth a shot this cycle with 3.7, 170? Forum

Yeezus · Post by **Yeezus** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:51 pm

Or is this just a waste of money? I'm a non-URM with average softs, LORs, and mediocre (probably below average) WE.

ballcaps · Post by **ballcaps** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:04 pm

in the past four years 119 lsn users applied with similar stats, and 7 got in.

that's 5.8%. up to you to judge if that's worth the $113 it costs to apply.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:30 pm

You would have a better chance this cycle than any other cycle.
Yeah the odds are long, but why not if you can afford the application fee and are fine with riding the waitlist?

t-14orbust · Post by **t-14orbust** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:36 pm

Personally think it's a waste considering below/at 25th%'s and nothing special(not that you aren't probably a great dude).

everything_bagel · Post by **everything_bagel** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:58 pm

YeezusPiece wrote:Or is this just a waste of money? I'm a non-URM with average softs, LORs, and mediocre (probably below average) WE.

Aiming for Harvard rather than retaking for $$$ from other t-14's the real waste of money. Take a year off, do something awesome, and improve your LSAT if you can.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:00 pm

everything_bagel wrote:
YeezusPiece wrote:Or is this just a waste of money? I'm a non-URM with average softs, LORs, and mediocre (probably below average) WE.
Aiming for Harvard rather than retaking for $$$ from other t-14's the real waste of money. Take a year off, do something awesome, and improve your LSAT if you can.

*steals thunder* OP has exhausted his takes.

everything_bagel · Post by **everything_bagel** » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:10 pm

Dirigo wrote:
everything_bagel wrote:
YeezusPiece wrote:Or is this just a waste of money? I'm a non-URM with average softs, LORs, and mediocre (probably below average) WE.
Aiming for Harvard rather than retaking for $$$ from other t-14's the real waste of money. Take a year off, do something awesome, and improve your LSAT if you can.
*steals thunder* OP has exhausted his takes.

Lol sorry. You're doing it right, OP. Nothing to add then, bur dirigo is right: No harm in giving it a shot; it's a crazy cycle.

MattM · Post by **MattM** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:29 am

op hasn't "exhausted his takes"

Can have a 4th take as long is it is not the 4th LSAT in a 2 yr period

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:58 am

MattM wrote:op hasn't "exhausted his takes"

Can have a 4th take as long is it is not the 4th LSAT in a 2 yr period

Which is precisely why OP has exhausted his takes.
Are you suggesting OP wait until June 2016 to retake?
Don't disagree with what I said when you obviously don't know OP's specific situation.

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:59 am

how often does LSAC grant 4th takes upon appeal within the 2 year frame?

musedreverie · Post by **musedreverie** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:38 am

ilikebaseball wrote:how often does LSAC grant 4th takes upon appeal within the 2 year frame?

Unless your exam building was hit by a tornado, I'd say very rarely; otherwise, everyone would be clamouring for the 4th retake and LSAC would have to hand them out like candies and then it kinda dilutes the whole concept of 3 takes in 2 year restriction.

And OP, I'd just give it a shot. Why not.

MattM · Post by **MattM** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:19 pm

Dirigo wrote:
MattM wrote:op hasn't "exhausted his takes"

Can have a 4th take as long is it is not the 4th LSAT in a 2 yr period
Which is precisely why OP has exhausted his takes.
Are you suggesting OP wait until June 2016 to retake?
Don't disagree with what I said when you obviously don't know OP's specific situation.

in a literal sense OP has not "exhausted his takes"....no true limit on # of takes although the less the better, ....He has only exhausted his takes within a 2 year period

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:21 pm

MattM wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
MattM wrote:op hasn't "exhausted his takes"
Can have a 4th take as long is it is not the 4th LSAT in a 2 yr period
Which is precisely why OP has exhausted his takes.
Are you suggesting OP wait until June 2016 to retake?
Don't disagree with what I said when you obviously don't know OP's specific situation.
in a literal sense OP has not "exhausted his takes"....no true limit on # of takes although the less the better, ....He has only exhausted his takes within a 2 year period

Just stop.

downbeat14 · Post by **downbeat14** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:52 pm

middlebear · Post by **middlebear** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:04 pm

YeezusPiece wrote:Or is this just a waste of money? I'm a non-URM with average softs, LORs, and mediocre (probably below average) WE.

Here are my thoughts, as someone who has the exact same stats: why the hell not? Like others said above, if you ever apply to HYS, this is probably going to be the best time to do it. I know I personally would rather send off hail mary apps than sit around and wonder if maybe I could have been in that lucky 5.8%. Who knows, you could be that special snowflakes that manages to make it, you never know.

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