3.65/164...playing the average game?

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3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby gotsomequestions » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:35 pm

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby bombaysippin » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:40 pm

Maybe BC.

I dunno much about schools and what they think about accommodated scores, but I think it doesn't go into the rankings. Regardless, the 164 is below medians at all the T-14 schools you listed.

Play around with http://www.mylsn.info/

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby sublime » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:46 pm

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby HYSenberg » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:49 pm

Realistically, you don't really have much of a chance at the T12 at all. T18 without residency in TX is also pretty unlikely, and even then. Anything 19+ you probably have a pretty decent shot. I think applying to Penn, UVA, Northwestern and Duke is just lighting money on fire. Cornell and Gtown are reaches as it is.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby objection_your_honor » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:18 pm

Are schools able to report an LSAT taken with accommodation?

Maybe it all comes down to GPA?

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby Nova » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:23 pm

objection_your_honor wrote:Are schools able to report an LSAT taken with accommodation?

Maybe it all comes down to GPA?

Nope

Yep

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby midwest17 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:57 pm

Yeah. As other people have said, your LSAT is unreportable because it's accommodated, so the most important part of your application will be your GPA. You'll probably need to be at or above median GPA to stand a significant chance of getting into a school, since your softs are nothing special. You're not URM, are you?

So, I'd give you low chances at Cornell, and decent shots at ND and W&L. I'd be quite surprised if you got Georgetown: you're .1 under their GPA median, and 3 below their LSAT median (even though they don't have to report it, it's still a little relevant).

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby gotsomequestions » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:31 am

Pretty sure my LSAT is reportable...every single application says I have a reportable LSAT score and my checklists on status pages have checked off the score as being reported.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby rebexness » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:40 am

gotsomequestions wrote:Pretty sure my LSAT is reportable...every single application says I have a reportable LSAT score and my checklists on status pages have checked off the score as being reported.


Your score is reported from LSAC to schools.
It is (probably?) not reportable from Schools to US News.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby mindarmed » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:40 am

Have you taken the LSAT 3 times in the last 2 years? If not, retake. HTH

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby midwest17 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:10 am

rebexness wrote:
gotsomequestions wrote:Pretty sure my LSAT is reportable...every single application says I have a reportable LSAT score and my checklists on status pages have checked off the score as being reported.


Your score is reported from LSAC to schools.
It is (probably?) not reportable from Schools to US News.


This. It fulfills your requirement to have an LSAT score in order to apply, but it doesn't help or hurt the schools' rankings.

mindarmed wrote:Have you taken the LSAT 3 times in the last 2 years? If not, retake. HTH


Given that any LSAT score OP gets won't be reported to the ABA/USNWR because s/he has an accommodated score, I doubt this is the most helpful advice.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby KD35 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:20 am

By playing the average game, do you mean you're just average? Because that's what it sounds like and you are hoping to ride the average bus through to a law school that doesn't take "average"

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby bombaysippin » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:34 pm

KD35 wrote:By playing the average game, do you mean you're just average? Because that's what it sounds like and you are hoping to ride the average bus through to a law school that doesn't take "average"


You have a nice avatar. 8)

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby theoutpostmhs » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:36 pm

You have decent shots at WashU, ND, and Indiana. Though, I'd retake. A few more points could land you in T14 range.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby objection_your_honor » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:11 pm

If there is any way you can retake without accommodation and score higher it could really help your cycle. If your GPA was above a few T14 medians I would say just forget about the LSAT. Since it's under all medians your numbers won't help them. It would really boost your application to secure a legitimate 169+.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby midwest17 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:26 am

objection_your_honor wrote:If there is any way you can retake without accommodation and score higher it could really help your cycle. If your GPA was above a few T14 medians I would say just forget about the LSAT. Since it's under all medians your numbers won't help them. It would really boost your application to secure a legitimate 169+.

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I believe that once you have one accommodated LSAT on file, none of your scores are reported to the ABA/USNWR, even if you retake w/o accommodations.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:52 am

What is the average game?

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby gotsomequestions » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:13 pm

Average game as in someone has to accept me.

Got an interview with WUSTL

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby sublime » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:15 pm

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:17 pm

sublime wrote:
gotsomequestions wrote:Average game as in someone has to accept me.

Got an interview with WUSTL



You don't get to add 10% at UVA with 5% at Penn to 10% at Northwestern until you get to 100 and assume you will be accepted somewhere.

I mean, you may get into WUSTL, but it would be at close to sticker I would imagine.

Yea I mean good luck obviously, but applying to more schools where your chances are slim doesn't really increase your chances of getting into them. And no one has to accept you...

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby gotsomequestions » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:22 pm

scotth724 wrote:
sublime wrote:
gotsomequestions wrote:Average game as in someone has to accept me.

Got an interview with WUSTL



You don't get to add 10% at UVA with 5% at Penn to 10% at Northwestern until you get to 100 and assume you will be accepted somewhere.

I mean, you may get into WUSTL, but it would be at close to sticker I would imagine.

Yea I mean good luck obviously, but applying to more schools where your chances are slim doesn't really increase your chances of getting into them. And no one has to accept you...


1st person- Never said I was adding up numbers here to get to 100%...I'm just going with the attitude that if I don't apply I'd never know

2nd person- Thanks for the optimism. Pause not.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby sublime » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:26 pm

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby gotsomequestions » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:29 pm

Basically. I mean why not take the chance on all of them and hope that one hits.

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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby didntgo89072014 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:29 pm

Assuming you are a senior, get 3.9+ this year, bump GPA up to 3.7+, or get 168+ w/o accommodation. Otherwise you will pay out the nose for a school not worth sticker. When 10% of people with your stats get a school, it's because they had unique softs or background, which you do not. HTH

ETA: You have a good GPA in finance from a good school. Grab a consulting job for a year or two. With 3.7+ and WE, you'll get cornell, georgetown, maybe northwestern.
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Re: 3.65/164...playing the average game?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:31 pm

didntgo89072014 wrote:Assuming you are a senior, get 3.9+ this year, bump GPA up to 3.7+, or get 168+ w/o accommodation. Otherwise you will pay out the nose for a school not worth sticker. When 10% of people with your stats get a school, it's because they had unique softs or background, which you do not. HTH

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