3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

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ohgodwhy
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3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby ohgodwhy » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:45 pm

What are my chances at the following schools?

- UCLA
- UC Irvine
- USC
- GWU
- Boston University
- Boston College

I have studied for the LSAT for about a year and a half now, going from a 137 to around a 161. I think I'm at the point where it is mentally impossible for me to score any higher, save for when the stars align.

Thanks guys.

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby Brettanomyces » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:58 pm

ohgodwhy wrote:What are my chances at the following schools?

- UCLA
- UC Irvine
- USC
- GWU
- Boston University
- Boston College

I have studied for the LSAT for about a year and a half now, going from a 137 to around a 161. I think I'm at the point where it is mentally impossible for me to score any higher, save for when the stars align.

Thanks guys.


Retake and hope the stars align.

That GPA is too pretty to waste.

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:30 am

ohgodwhy wrote:What are my chances at the following schools?

- UCLA
- UC Irvine
- USC
- GWU
- Boston University
- Boston College

I have studied for the LSAT for about a year and a half now, going from a 137 to around a 161. I think I'm at the point where it is mentally impossible for me to score any higher, save for when the stars align.

Thanks guys.


Congrats on your improvement! Thats really impressive. Still, simply put, your ROI going to law school with a 3.9/161 is negative and will remain negative until you increase your score to over 167ish. You may get into these schools, but at near sticker. I would use the stellar grades to get a great job and work on increasing your score in the meantime. Otherwise, choose one market (you have 3 noted in that list) where you have ties and go to the most affordable option

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby Dr.Zer0 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:56 am

Are you a URM by any chance?

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby Law Sauce » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:58 am

jbagelboy wrote:
ohgodwhy wrote:What are my chances at the following schools?

- UCLA
- UC Irvine
- USC
- GWU
- Boston University
- Boston College

I have studied for the LSAT for about a year and a half now, going from a 137 to around a 161. I think I'm at the point where it is mentally impossible for me to score any higher, save for when the stars align.

Thanks guys.


Congrats on your improvement! Thats really impressive. Still, simply put, your ROI going to law school with a 3.9/161 is negative and will remain negative until you increase your score to over 167ish. You may get into these schools, but at near sticker. I would use the stellar grades to get a great job and work on increasing your score in the meantime. Otherwise, choose one market (you have 3 noted in that list) where you have ties and go to the most affordable option


Average ROI you mean, OP may have a positive ROI out of any school.

EZ as AsDf
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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby EZ as AsDf » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:00 am

Is this a joke? Is this what they call "trolling"? Did you go to a good university and did you take difficult courses?

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby Kimikho » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:03 am

EZ as AsDf wrote:Is this a joke? Is this what they call "trolling"? Did you go to a good university and did you take difficult courses?

...
go to hell fucknut.

ohgodwhy
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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby ohgodwhy » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:18 am

jbagelboy wrote:
ohgodwhy wrote:What are my chances at the following schools?

- UCLA
- UC Irvine
- USC
- GWU
- Boston University
- Boston College

I have studied for the LSAT for about a year and a half now, going from a 137 to around a 161. I think I'm at the point where it is mentally impossible for me to score any higher, save for when the stars align.

Thanks guys.


Congrats on your improvement! Thats really impressive. Still, simply put, your ROI going to law school with a 3.9/161 is negative and will remain negative until you increase your score to over 167ish. You may get into these schools, but at near sticker. I would use the stellar grades to get a great job and work on increasing your score in the meantime. Otherwise, choose one market (you have 3 noted in that list) where you have ties and go to the most affordable option


Thanks for this response, and the very realistic suggestions! What do you mean by negative ROI?

To the other poster: no I'm not URM by any stretch.

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby drawstring » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:20 am

ROI usually means return on investment.

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:03 am

By negative ROI, I mean with a 3.9 GPA your post-BA options are superior to your post-JD options out of these schools with the amount of debt you'd have from them, on average (yes Law Sauce.) As an example, you could make $60,000 now assuming your bachelors is accredited and from a known school with some halfway decent recruitment services. Your ROI for even a best case scenario here like UCLA w/ $10K (are you in-state?) is gonna be like [(.1)(0)+(.1)(30,000)+(.35)(150000)^1.03+(.45)(50,000)]*5 - 220,000 - 3(60,000)^1.03< 0. (This is VERY rough so dont apply this exact rubric, but the idea is expected value - lost opportunity over a fixed number of years).

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Re: 3.9 GPA and 161 LSAT

Postby midwest17 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:43 pm

Law Sauce wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:
ohgodwhy wrote:What are my chances at the following schools?

- UCLA
- UC Irvine
- USC
- GWU
- Boston University
- Boston College

I have studied for the LSAT for about a year and a half now, going from a 137 to around a 161. I think I'm at the point where it is mentally impossible for me to score any higher, save for when the stars align.

Thanks guys.


Congrats on your improvement! Thats really impressive. Still, simply put, your ROI going to law school with a 3.9/161 is negative and will remain negative until you increase your score to over 167ish. You may get into these schools, but at near sticker. I would use the stellar grades to get a great job and work on increasing your score in the meantime. Otherwise, choose one market (you have 3 noted in that list) where you have ties and go to the most affordable option


Average ROI you mean, OP may have a positive ROI out of any school.


Expected ROI, actually, not average. And that's implied when talking about future events...




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