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Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:20 pm
by iloveturtles
I have a 2.66 and I recently just took the October LSAT without much practice just to see what I would get and received a 146. I know both are pretty low, but at least I know where I am at. My ultimate goal is to get into a T3-4 law school in California (cause I'm in California), what do you think my chances are currently?

I have roughly a little over a month until December LSAT and I am willing to commit as many hours as possible to raise my LSAT score. Can anyone give me any rough estimates of how high I need to raise my LSAT before I can be considered by any schools?

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:22 pm
by hephaestus
You need to raise your LSAT score to 167+ before you will get enough money to make any school worth attending. The TTTs and TTTTs in California have some of the worst employment outcomes in the country, and are simultaneously very expensive. What are you currently doing for a living? Perhaps it would be prudent to reconsider law school altogether.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:23 pm
by BigZuck
Don't go to law school. Your numbers make you, in the immortal words of Mr. Pancakes, "disqualified." And that's fine, you'll just have to find a different line of work.

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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:28 pm
by 06162014123
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Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:41 pm
by iloveturtles
RedShift wrote:I would spend way more than a month studying for the test if your starting point is 146. Like, 4 months at least.

Can I ask what your major was?


I double majored in Political Science and Economics. My gpa was above 3 when I was taking all my political science courses but dropped under when I started taking economics courses (I didn't have enough units to graduate after completing all my political science courses so I was forced to take up a minor, which then turned into a major.)

I currently have a part time job in the marketing industry. But like I said, I just need to know a viable range for my LSAT score to be considered by T3-4 so I can at least get a shoe in into law school. After that, I have other plans.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:42 pm
by Danger Zone
iloveturtles wrote:After that, I have other plans.

Unless your daddy is a partner somewhere, I'd seriously consider NOT going to law school at all.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:44 pm
by redsox
iloveturtles wrote:After that, I have other plans.


World domination?

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:48 pm
by iloveturtles
redsox wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:After that, I have other plans.


World domination?


Yes, of course. I just want a serious response other than what I should consider something else. I'm not oblivious to the fact that those two are very low numbers, but I have made a plan and the first step is to get into a law school in California.

So realistically speaking, would getting a 160ish allow me to be considered by T3-4s?

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:49 pm
by hephaestus
Danger Zone wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:After that, I have other plans.

Unless your daddy is a partner somewhere, I'd seriously consider NOT going to law school at all.

OP seems like the stereotypical special snowflake.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:49 pm
by hephaestus
iloveturtles wrote:
redsox wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:After that, I have other plans.


World domination?


Yes, of course. I just want a serious response other than what I should consider something else. I'm not oblivious to the fact that those two are very low numbers, but I have made a plan and the first step is to get into a law school in California.

So realistically speaking, would getting a 160ish allow me to be considered by T3-4s?

What is your second step, seriously?

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:51 pm
by Danger Zone
The most serious response you're going to get is not to go to law school. It's a terrible market out there. You will rack up debt that you can never pay off. Don't go. Seriously.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:53 pm
by iloveturtles
Danger Zone wrote:The most serious response you're going to get is not to go to law school. It's a terrible market out there. You will rack up debt that you can never pay off. Don't go. Seriously.


So you're saying everyone in T3-4s right now is screwed and delusional for going there?

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:53 pm
by Danger Zone
iloveturtles wrote:
Danger Zone wrote:The most serious response you're going to get is not to go to law school. It's a terrible market out there. You will rack up debt that you can never pay off. Don't go. Seriously.

So you're saying everyone in T3-4s right now is screwed and delusional for going there?

No, but the odds are heavily stacked against them. Obviously some people will get lucky.

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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:54 pm
by 06162014123
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Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:55 pm
by prezidentv8
iloveturtles wrote:
Danger Zone wrote:The most serious response you're going to get is not to go to law school. It's a terrible market out there. You will rack up debt that you can never pay off. Don't go. Seriously.


So you're saying everyone in T3-4s right now is screwed and delusional for going there?


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Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:56 pm
by redsox
RedShift wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:
redsox wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:After that, I have other plans.


World domination?


Yes, of course. I just want a serious response other than what I should consider something else. I'm not oblivious to the fact that those two are very low numbers, but I have made a plan and the first step is to get into a law school in California.

Where you will gain the trust of unsuspecting law students with mountains of debt and slowly recruit them into your marijuana distribution business?

This thread should turn into a game of 20 questions


WHAT IS TURTLES' PLAN???

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:57 pm
by iloveturtles
Danger Zone wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:
Danger Zone wrote:The most serious response you're going to get is not to go to law school. It's a terrible market out there. You will rack up debt that you can never pay off. Don't go. Seriously.

So you're saying everyone in T3-4s right now is screwed and delusional for going there?

No, but the odds are heavily stacked against them. Obviously some people will get lucky.


Then I rather take those chances. Look, if I studied and took the LSAT again and got a crappy score. I understand that's my responsibility as is my low GPA, and gladly consider something else. But all I'm asking for here is a reasonable LSAT score where I may be considered into T3-4s.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:59 pm
by hephaestus
iloveturtles wrote:
Danger Zone wrote:The most serious response you're going to get is not to go to law school. It's a terrible market out there. You will rack up debt that you can never pay off. Don't go. Seriously.


So you're saying everyone in T3-4s right now is screwed and delusional for going there?

The majority certainly are. Would you go to a casino and put 200k on red?

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:01 pm
by iloveturtles
ImNoScar wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:
Danger Zone wrote:The most serious response you're going to get is not to go to law school. It's a terrible market out there. You will rack up debt that you can never pay off. Don't go. Seriously.


So you're saying everyone in T3-4s right now is screwed and delusional for going there?

The majority certainly are. Would you go to a casino and put 200k on red?


I would put 200k on red, if I have a *plan*.

I'm not going to tell you guys what it is, it works better that way. But if it works, I wouldn't mind coming back here to tell you guys. :)

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:06 pm
by redsox
iloveturtles wrote:I would put 200k on red, if I have a *plan*.

I'm not going to tell you guys what it is, it works better that way. But if it works, I wouldn't mind coming back here to tell you guys. :)


You have a 2.66 GPA and a 146 LSAT. Were those part of the *plan*? If so, you made a really bad *plan*. If not, what makes you think that the other parts of the *plan* will suddenly start *working*?

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:06 pm
by Danger Zone
iloveturtles wrote:I'm not going to tell you guys

Then no advice for you.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:17 pm
by TheWeeIceMon
No guys, you don't understand, he has a "plan."

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:19 pm
by TheSpanishMain
redsox wrote:
iloveturtles wrote:I would put 200k on red, if I have a *plan*.

I'm not going to tell you guys what it is, it works better that way. But if it works, I wouldn't mind coming back here to tell you guys. :)


You have a 2.66 GPA and a 146 LSAT. Were those part of the *plan*? If so, you made a really bad *plan*. If not, what makes you think that the other parts of the *plan* will suddenly start *working*?


Yes, yes, my pretties.....soon you shall be mine....

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:23 pm
by cotiger
I feel like I have posted this before...

The school with the best employment numbers you could get into even after scoring a 160 is Santa Clara. At Santa Clara, you will not receive a scholarship. This will mean taking out $240k in debt. Even if you live at home, eat off of your parents, and in general have $0 of living expenses, you will still take out $150k in debt.

Approximately 40% of Santa Clara grads secure legal employment after graduation. 60% fail entirely in their quest to become a lawyer. That $200k debt will still have to be paid off. Of those lucky 40%, 75% get jobs that pay around $50k/year.

Only 10% of grads secure jobs that could possibly pay off the debt accrued. Of those 10%, many get those jobs because they have highly desirable backgrounds in computer science or engineering, which you do not have.

This is not a recipe for a happy outcome, no matter how badly you want to become a lawyer.

Re: Way low 2.66/146, looking for some advice

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:54 pm
by BigZuck
Since this is shaping up to be a flame is it ok to start being mean/snarky toward the OP? Or do we have to wait for him to tip his flamey hand even more?