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low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
I have a 3.6 GPA but a 152 LSAT. I'd like to go to U of Wisconsin - Madison
I wrote an addendum about my LSAT.
I wrote an addendum about my LSAT.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
How much studying did you do before taking the LSAT? If nothing else you need to take it twice more before applying. Make sure you study like it is your job because you will get more money for a 170+ than I make in three years.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=wisconsin
You're barely above the 2012 median for GPA, and you're almost 10 points below median for the LSAT. If they even let you in (which is a big if) you're going to be paying sticker. As a resident, that comes out to about 140k debt, for a 10% chance of getting a job decent enough to service that debt.
Furthermore, law school is entirely based on "standardized tests." You get a final examination at the end of each class which is curved against everyone else taking the same test. If you think the ACT and the LSAT were stressful and hard, law school exams are going to be exponentially harder.
I'm being sort of brutal with you because it's more important that you understand what you're getting yourself into than that you feel good about things. You're a big kid and you can definitely take it, especially when it means not dooming yourself to indentured servitude through student debt.
You're barely above the 2012 median for GPA, and you're almost 10 points below median for the LSAT. If they even let you in (which is a big if) you're going to be paying sticker. As a resident, that comes out to about 140k debt, for a 10% chance of getting a job decent enough to service that debt.
Furthermore, law school is entirely based on "standardized tests." You get a final examination at the end of each class which is curved against everyone else taking the same test. If you think the ACT and the LSAT were stressful and hard, law school exams are going to be exponentially harder.
I'm being sort of brutal with you because it's more important that you understand what you're getting yourself into than that you feel good about things. You're a big kid and you can definitely take it, especially when it means not dooming yourself to indentured servitude through student debt.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
I was rejected 2 years in a row with a 160/3.49... I spent 6 months studying for the LSAT I now have a 168/3.49 and will only go to UW if they give me some money on top of my in-state tuition. I would seriously consider retaking. I have been pretty deadset on UW and it sucked having to wait 2 years but if I pay in-state with a some money off it will have been more than worth it.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
I was an in-state applicant with a 3.6/159 a couple years ago and was rejected, but I also applied pretty late in the cycle.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
Well I've debated coming back and leaving a comment for quite awhile now and I've decided to do it because it could make a difference for some. I know I did a lot of searching through these forums while looking for signs of hope when it came time to apply to Madison, maybe someone else will come by this post while searching and get that extra inspiration they need.
I applied with a 3.6 and a 152 and not only was I admitted but my softs were so strong I'll be going to Madison on scholarship. To anyone out there who's worried about his or her chances because of one bad characteristic of their app, no matter how critical it that characteristic is, working on those softs DOES make a difference.
I applied with a 3.6 and a 152 and not only was I admitted but my softs were so strong I'll be going to Madison on scholarship. To anyone out there who's worried about his or her chances because of one bad characteristic of their app, no matter how critical it that characteristic is, working on those softs DOES make a difference.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
Declining apps.
Retaking lsat is a better bet in most cases.
Retaking lsat is a better bet in most cases.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
it was very unlikely youd be admitted. Everyone with a 15X LSAT should retake.MagicBus92 wrote: I applied with a 3.6 and a 152 and not only was I admitted but my softs were so strong I'll be going to Madison on scholarship. To anyone out there who's worried about his or her chances because of one bad characteristic of their app, no matter how critical it that characteristic is, working on those softs DOES make a difference.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
What were those amazing softs that made such a difference? And how much was the scholarship? Full ride and 1k off a year are a lot different.MagicBus92 wrote:Well I've debated coming back and leaving a comment for quite awhile now and I've decided to do it because it could make a difference for some. I know I did a lot of searching through these forums while looking for signs of hope when it came time to apply to Madison, maybe someone else will come by this post while searching and get that extra inspiration they need.
I applied with a 3.6 and a 152 and not only was I admitted but my softs were so strong I'll be going to Madison on scholarship. To anyone out there who's worried about his or her chances because of one bad characteristic of their app, no matter how critical it that characteristic is, working on those softs DOES make a difference.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
Are you a URM?
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
@unodostres @Nova: I agree.
@Chriz: It's more than 1K a year but not a full ride (the letter asked not to reveal the amount). Softs include a very good resume, a very well thought out personal statement, a logically constructed LSAT addendum and very good letters of rec.
@TheSpanishMan: I'm not a URM
@Chriz: It's more than 1K a year but not a full ride (the letter asked not to reveal the amount). Softs include a very good resume, a very well thought out personal statement, a logically constructed LSAT addendum and very good letters of rec.
@TheSpanishMan: I'm not a URM
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
Not reveal the amount? I've never heard of a school saying that.MagicBus92 wrote:@unodostres @Nova: I agree.
@Chriz: It's more than 1K a year but not a full ride (the letter asked not to reveal the amount). Softs include a very good resume, a very well thought out personal statement, a logically constructed LSAT addendum and very good letters of rec.
@TheSpanishMan: I'm not a URM
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
I'm calling troll on the follow up.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
Likewise. It's a super stingy school with money. There's zero reason they would give money (more than 1k).cron1834 wrote:I'm calling troll on the follow up.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
I have heard they are stingy too but I received a scholarship. I can't disclose the amount
Though do to the super binding and important clause they have where you can't tell anyone your amount.
Though do to the super binding and important clause they have where you can't tell anyone your amount.
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Re: low LSAT high GPA, chances at U of Wisconsin - Madison
I think they are just trying to prevent the rioting that occurs when people find out they should have negotiated instead of taking the first offer.sublime wrote:Winston1984 wrote:Not reveal the amount? I've never heard of a school saying that.MagicBus92 wrote:@unodostres @Nova: I agree.
@Chriz: It's more than 1K a year but not a full ride (the letter asked not to reveal the amount). Softs include a very good resume, a very well thought out personal statement, a logically constructed LSAT addendum and very good letters of rec.
@TheSpanishMan: I'm not a URM
Notre Dame on the phone asked me not to mention it after an unsolicited bump.
That was before they tried to tell me to consider South Bend's COL when I had like $30k more at WUSTL.
ETA: I did tell people though, fwiw.
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