bouleversement wrote: wiz wrote:
We really don't know what Harvard's floor is since they do not release a full GPA spread. I know Yale has gone below 3.50. I feel confident in guessing Harvard as well.
Yeah, Yale's lowest accepted GPA was a 3.13. I wouldn't call that their floor though. It's a little crazy to say Y has a floor at or below 3.50. For a vanilla applicant who didn't cure cancer or win gold at the Olympics, they won't be dipping that low anytime soon.
From law school numbers, we can say Harvard had a GPA floor of around 3.7 in the past and perhaps has a floor of 3.5 or 3.6 right now.
LSN skews toward the more-qualified applicants.
We know Yale's lowest outlier. We do not know how many, if any, people are between that data point and what one would traditionally define as a "floor" à la LSN. If anything, Yale has less flexibility than Harvard in accepting such GPAs given the disparity in class size.
I do not find it such a stretch to envision 1-3 acceptances, maybe more in a given year (constrained by absolute numbers), in the 178-180/3.4-3.5 range at HLS.
I don't disagree with anything you said, and I'm definitely not saying that Harvard has a lower GPA floor than Yale. I think, however, we might have different definitions of what constitutes a floor.
Two years ago, 178/3.5 was virtually DOA at H. Now, with the drop in applicants, someone with those numbers might have a fighting chance. I wouldn't be surprised to hear of 3+ acceptances from applicants in the 178-180/3.4-3.5 range at HLS, nor would I be surprised to hear of 1-3 acceptances for sub-3.7s in past cycles, even when the floor was still effectively a 3.7. There are very few applicants with a 178+ LSAT, and people with those numbers should of course apply to YHS. But I wouldn't get my hopes up about being that special snowflake acceptance (at least, not until the data shows the floor has shifted that low).