2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

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2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby hopingtoattend » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:09 am

I was considering applying to the schools in Wisconsin (Madison and Marquette). I'm retaking the LSAT next month and I'm hoping for a 165.

What are my chances?


From what I've seen so far, I think I stand a good chance of getting into Marquette if I can get that 165.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby californiauser » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:37 am

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=210515

Your old thread covered your chances extensively.

Retake for 170+ and hope for Northwestern or don't go to law school.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby BigZuck » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:38 pm

The other thread went on for 4 pages. It was very thorough.

Why does this thread exist?

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby hopingtoattend » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:32 pm

BigZuck wrote:The other thread went on for 4 pages. It was very thorough.

Why does this thread exist?


The old thread was crawling with trolls, just like you and the other guy. If you have no advice that isn't "180 AND HARVARD OR GTFO", then just leave.


californiauser wrote:http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=210515

Your old thread covered your chances extensively.

Retake for 170+ and hope for Northwestern or don't go to law school.


This is ridiculous advice and you're clearly a troll. "Go to Northwestern or don't bother." What kind of bullshit is that?

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby hopingtoattend » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:37 pm

I was hoping that this forum would be rid of those trolls after so many months, but I can see that any place with such a shabby design in '13 and who calls it "top-law-schools" is clearly just a troll scam.

I'll go get that 180 and get into Harvard. Thanks for the advice, morons.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby californiauser » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:44 pm

hopingtoattend wrote:I was hoping that this forum would be rid of those trolls after so many months, but I can see that any place with such a shabby design in '13 and who calls it "top-law-schools" is clearly just a troll scam.

I'll go get that 180 and get into Harvard. Thanks for the advice, morons.


If trolling is telling you to work your butt off to get an LSAT score that will allow you to acquire gainful employment post-law school, then yes, I'm this forum's biggest troll.

A 180 won't get you into Harvard (as I'm sure you know). Plenty of posters in your situation (low gpa) have followed the advice I gave to you and attended Northwestern.

I highly doubt any school worth attending will give you scholarship money with your current gpa, regardless of LSAT.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby BigZuck » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:52 pm

So you, a troll, created a troll post in order to call helpful posters trolls?

Cool.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby jbagelboy » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:59 pm

hopingtoattend wrote:I was hoping that this forum would be rid of those trolls after so many months, but I can see that any place with such a shabby design in '13 and who calls it "top-law-schools" is clearly just a troll scam.

I'll go get that 180 and get into Harvard. Thanks for the advice, morons.


Don't go dude. What's the point? Only just over half of Marquette's grads become attorneys: http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=marquette

You'll go into massive debt for a degree that nearly as likely as not will fail to employ you, and waste 3 years of your life. Just about any other job would be more productive. I recognize with a 2.38 you've basically shat yourself out of most work, but there are still a few professions that won't ask for your undergraduate transcript.

The Northwestern appeal is basically the only advice you'll receive on this site other than "don't go" because its the only degree you could attain with those grades where it is even borderline justifiable to assume $200,000+ in loans. Every other law school in the country where you would have a shot of admission with a 165+ LSAT score would be an atrocious financial decision that could ruin not just the next 3 years, but your entire life.

If you want to label this advice as moronic, that's on you. Don't blame a "generally" helpful (albeit at times harsh and pretentious, but well-intented) community for your own mistakes in college. There's still time to make some good decisions, or at least avoid monstrous ones like attending Marquette at sticker. This is the best damn advice you will ever get.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby hephaestus » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:01 pm

You need at least a 170. And no one will tell you "Harvard or GTFO" because you'll never get in due to GPA. 170 will open up the splitter friendly T14s.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby TheSpanishMain » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:42 pm

Here's the problem, killer.

It is entirely possible to find gainful employment from a second tier law school. Such employment will be A) geographically limited and B) will not involve a very high salary. Still, if you want to do small law in an area where you have ties, it can be doable. The important thing in this scenario is to have little to no debt. When you have a starting salary of 50k, you can't make payments on 150k debt and simultaneously keep a roof over your head.

To keep the debt load low to non-existent, you need a huge scholarship. With your super low GPA, it's going to be really hard to secure scholarship funding even if you have a great LSAT.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby deadpanic » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:48 pm

You shouldn't go to law school with those numbers. If you can somehow get into Wisconsin after a retake, and want to practice there, it may not be a bad decision. Right now you have zero chance. You probably won't even get into Marquette and you shouldn't go there unless it's near free.

You are being too defensive. Everyone here is trying to legitimately tell you what is in your best interests.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby sparty99 » Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:51 pm

hopingtoattend wrote:I was considering applying to the schools in Wisconsin (Madison and Marquette). I'm retaking the LSAT next month and I'm hoping for a 165.

What are my chances?


From what I've seen so far, I think I stand a good chance of getting into Marquette if I can get that 165.


Wisconsin - Rejected

Marquette - Waitlisted, Rejected

Your GPA is so bad that you would really need a 170+. I don't see you getting into any school that would be good.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby Nova » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:07 pm

Dont go to Marquette

You'll need need to be well above Madison's median to be seriously considered

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby sublime » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:23 pm

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby AAJD2B » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:41 pm

hopingtoattend wrote:I was hoping that this forum would be rid of those trolls after so many months, but I can see that any place with such a shabby design in '13 and who calls it "top-law-schools" is clearly just a troll scam.

I'll go get that 180 and get into Harvard. Thanks for the advice, morons.


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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby JamMasterJ » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:52 pm

Simple practice lsat problem:
Your grades are too low for $$
The t13 are the only schools worth going to without $$
Therefore .....

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby PRgradBYU » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:34 pm

hopingtoattend wrote:I was hoping that this forum would be rid of those trolls after so many months, but I can see that any place with such a shabby design in '13 and who calls it "top-law-schools" is clearly just a troll scam.

I'll go get that 180 and get into Harvard. Thanks for the advice, morons.


The guy who clearly didn't have the brains to adequately prepare for law school is calling us morons? Enjoy your TTTT / debt pwnage.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby SuperCerealBrah » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:38 pm

hopingtoattend wrote:I was considering applying to the schools in Wisconsin (Madison and Marquette). I'm retaking the LSAT next month and I'm hoping for a 165.

What are my chances?


From what I've seen so far, I think I stand a good chance of getting into Marquette if I can get that 165.


Retake or do not go to law school. It is not trolling. If you take this advice, your life will be much better off.

http://www.lawschooltransparency.com

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby Ti Malice » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:49 pm

Well, better that an idiot who has encountered all of the information necessary to make an intelligent decision sign up for financial ruin and debt slavery than someone who failed to do adequate research beforehand. OP can't say he/she wasn't warned.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:55 pm

hopingtoattend wrote:I was hoping that this forum would be rid of those trolls after so many months, but I can see that any place with such a shabby design in '13 and who calls it "top-law-schools" is clearly just a troll scam.

I'll go get that 180 and get into Harvard. Thanks for the advice, morons.

OP, troll =/= people telling you what you don't want to hear. People here are very concerned about debt and about employment prospects after graduation, and are not willing to attend law school without a reasonable chance at getting a job that will allow them to pay off their debt. You may be willing to take bigger risks in terms of debt/statistical chances at getting a legal job, and that's fine. But don't tell people here they're trolling you because they seek to maximize their chances/minimize debt, and advise other posters accordingly. You can ignore the advice all you like, but people are giving it in good faith.

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Re: 2.38 GPA/157 LSAT

Postby PepperJack » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:28 pm

Bro, the odds of getting a job at a t-14 that will allow you to repay sticker debt are 50-50. That means there's only a 50% chance it's a good bet, and even then it's really only 50-50 if you're from a secondary market or played some kind of athletic sport in college or are ridiculously good at BSing a certain crowd of people. If you're from NYC or DC it is highly possible to strike out even with top 25% grades from a top-10. This isn't being a snob or elitist; it's reality. There's no god given right to be a lawyer. If perfectly sociable people with high grades from a t-14 are striking out then why exactly would you succeed coming from a shit school?




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