3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

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3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby thenewguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:45 am

Hey guys,

This is my first post here, I am looking for some feedback. After reading over this board for the past few days, I believe my 170/3.54 status makes me a "splitter." I am just about to start the apps process and have heard very mixed reviews about ED vs. RD. I am from the suburbs right outside of philly so UPENN would be a dream come true, I was wondering if I would fare significantly better applying ED vs. RD. I have taken the LSAT 1 time, UG is U of Michigan and I am first generation in my fam to get an undergrad degree (does this help?). I am not an URM.

Would appreciate any input. Thanks.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:56 am

RD:
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ED:
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Basically, with RD, Penn waitlists a bunch of applicants with your stats but you can expect money from lower T14s.

Unless you are dead set on Penn, you don't need to apply ED.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby thenewguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:00 am

Thank you for this.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:01 am

thenewguy wrote:Thank you for this.


Congrats on your 170! I've always wanted to reach that high :wink:

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby SportsFan » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:27 pm

I had nearly identical numbers (I had a 171). If you're ok with sticker at Penn (you likely won't get scholarship money in the T14 anyway), apply ED and enjoy Penn.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby elterrible78 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:54 pm

This might be worth taking a look at, too:

http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... el-in.html

For purposes of my analysis, I defined splitter as applicants who were below a school's 25th percentile GPA but above their 75th LSAT. It's as good a definition as any, I think. You're just below last cycle's 25th GPA (by .01 of a point), but also below their 75th LSAT, so you wouldn't have been considered a splitter in this data.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby thenewguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:55 pm

elterrible78 wrote:This might be worth taking a look at, too:

http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... el-in.html

For purposes of my analysis, I defined splitter as applicants who were below a school's 25th percentile GPA but above their 75th LSAT. It's as good a definition as any, I think. You're just below last cycle's 25th GPA (by .01 of a point), but also below their 75th LSAT, so you wouldn't have been considered a splitter in this data.


Thank you for this, it is extremely helpful. I understand that definition of a splitter, makes alot of sense.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby thenewguy » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:41 am

also wondering if the following 2 factors count for anything as softs:

-pa residency, specifically phillyburb area
-first generation undergrad degree in family

thanks guys

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby intlsplitr » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:08 pm

SportsFan wrote:I had nearly identical numbers (I had a 171). If you're ok with sticker at Penn (you likely won't get scholarship money in the T14 anyway), apply ED and enjoy Penn.


The bolded is wrong; I had identical stats for this cycle. Lower T14 schools will be offering $$, but you wont get any from Penn.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby SportsFan » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:18 pm

thenewguy wrote:also wondering if the following 2 factors count for anything as softs:

-pa residency, specifically phillyburb area
-first generation undergrad degree in family

thanks guys

Practically, it won't mean anything.
intlsplitr wrote:
SportsFan wrote:I had nearly identical numbers (I had a 171). If you're ok with sticker at Penn (you likely won't get scholarship money in the T14 anyway), apply ED and enjoy Penn.


The bolded is wrong; I had identical stats for this cycle. Lower T14 schools will be offering $$, but you wont get any from Penn.

Really? Maybe this cycle was different than last (only school I remember having any shot at getting money from was Michigan).

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby intlsplitr » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:43 pm

SportsFan wrote:Really? Maybe this cycle was different than last (only school I remember having any shot at getting money from was Michigan).


Yeah, I had $$ at Gtown, Northwestern, and Duke this cycle.

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby thenewguy » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:05 am

intlsplitr wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Really? Maybe this cycle was different than last (only school I remember having any shot at getting money from was Michigan).


Yeah, I had $$ at Gtown, Northwestern, and Duke this cycle.


Would you mind elaborating on the schools you applied to, the money they gave, and your thought process of choosing? That is if you don't mind of course. Figured I would take advantage of talking to someone with identical stats. Thanks!

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby whatsthat » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:41 am

intlsplitr wrote:
SportsFan wrote:I had nearly identical numbers (I had a 171). If you're ok with sticker at Penn (you likely won't get scholarship money in the T14 anyway), apply ED and enjoy Penn.


The bolded is wrong; I had identical stats for this cycle. Lower T14 schools will be offering $$, but you wont get any from Penn.

Did either of you try leveraging your scholarship offers or just asking the financial aid office if they could do anything for you? just asking because I applied previous cycle with not identical but very similar numbers and got money up to Chicago doing so (which ended up being my highest acceptance as I did not wait out the Columbia WL and didn't apply higher). Not very much money, but better than 0....

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Re: 3.54/170 ED vs. RD to Penn

Postby kiyoku » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:18 am

ED at Penn. The number shown above for lsn stats (for ED is very small sample so take it for what it is).




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