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Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:03 pm
by Quest4Knowledge
Hi, I scored a 173 (1st try) and currently have a 3.6X (1st year GPA bringing me down but don't have anyone to blame except myself ugh). Not URM. My softs I'd say are above average, but I don't have very much WE. Am currently in 3rd year doing an undergrad in Political Science/Economics.

After looking at LSN, myLSN, and various other predictors - it's safe to say HYS are probably long shots with my current GPA.

I have a couple options, looking for recommendations (or new options perhaps):
-Apply October 2013 with 3.6X GPA
-Apply January 2014 with 3.75 GPA*
-Apply October 2014 with 3.83 GPA*

*These GPA's are projections based on personal trends

Is there a downside to applying in January 2014 and then re-applying with the new GPA in October 2014 if the January cycle doesn't go well?

EDIT: Not a Splitter, woops...

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:06 pm
by Mal Reynolds
Apply this year and if you don't get in apply next year.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:07 pm
by Mal Reynolds
And don't call yourself a splitter. You'll get tarred and feathered.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:08 pm
by PMan99
Quest4Knowledge wrote:Hi, I scored a 174 (1st try) and currently have a 3.68 (1st year GPA bringing me down but don't have anyone to blame except myself ugh). Not URM. My softs I'd say are above average, but I don't have very much WE. Am currently in 3rd year doing an undergrad in Political Science/Economics.

After looking at LSN, myLSN, and various other predictors - it's safe to say HYS are probably long shots with my current GPA.

I have a couple options, looking for recommendations (or new options perhaps):
-Apply October 2013 with 3.68 GPA
-Apply January 2014 with 3.75 GPA*
-Apply October 2014 with 3.83 GPA*

*These GPA's are projections based on personal trends

Is there a downside to applying in January 2014 and then re-applying with the new GPA in October 2014 if the January cycle doesn't go well?


Application fees, but that's all I can think of.

3.75+ 170+ should land you HYS though.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:10 pm
by Quest4Knowledge
Woops, my impression was that Splitter meant higher than a schools median... Apologies, thanks for the tip!

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:10 pm
by ManOfTheMinute
Quest4Knowledge wrote:Hi, I scored a 174 (1st try) and currently have a 3.68 (1st year GPA bringing me down but don't have anyone to blame except myself ugh). Not URM. My softs I'd say are above average, but I don't have very much WE. Am currently in 3rd year doing an undergrad in Political Science/Economics.

After looking at LSN, myLSN, and various other predictors - it's safe to say HYS are probably long shots with my current GPA.

I have a couple options, looking for recommendations (or new options perhaps):
-Apply October 2013 with 3.68 GPA
-Apply January 2014 with 3.75 GPA*
-Apply October 2014 with 3.83 GPA*

*These GPA's are projections based on personal trends

Is there a downside to applying in January 2014 and then re-applying with the new GPA in October 2014 if the January cycle doesn't go well?


If you're serious about HYS, i would suggest waiting a little bit. The schools will like the upward grade trend and hitting the 3.8 GPA floor could be helpful...

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:10 pm
by soj
don't hesitate to turn down mediocre offers (CCN with no or little money) and reapply. 3.8x/174 can get into HYS, especially H.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:25 pm
by Quest4Knowledge
Thanks for your help everyone.

I think my plan of attack will be to apply in January 2014 (once my transcript with first semester marks raises my GPA to approx. 3.75 and hope for the best. If I don't get into HYS (or CCN with little $$), finish my degree and re-apply in the next cycle of October 2014 with a 3.8+. (And this way will be out of school for a year, can hopefully get some WE)

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:31 pm
by ManOfTheMinute
Quest4Knowledge wrote:Thanks for your help everyone.

I think my plan of attack will be to apply in January 2014 (once my transcript with first semester marks raises my GPA to approx. 3.75 and hope for the best. If I don't get into HYS (or CCN with little $$), finish my degree and re-apply in the next cycle of October 2014 with a 3.8+. (And this way will be out of school for a year, can hopefully get some WE)


Fair enough... are you at a semester school or quarter school? Cuz you'll at least get WLed, and if you can send in your new grades that raise you to a 3.83, you should be able to get off the WL

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:37 pm
by Monochromatic Oeuvre
PMan99 wrote:3.75+ 170+ should land you HYS though.


So, are we all just letting this slide, or what?

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:40 pm
by PMan99
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
PMan99 wrote:3.75+ 170+ should land you HYS though.


So, are we all just letting this slide, or what?


I dunno bro, go to law school numbers and see how 3.75 174 looks at H.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:41 pm
by soj
i just assumed that was a typo since op already got a 174. 170-172 is not getting hys with 3.7x.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:43 pm
by sinfiery
PMan99 wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
PMan99 wrote:3.75+ 170+ should land you HYS though.


So, are we all just letting this slide, or what?


I dunno bro, go to law school numbers and see how 3.75 174 looks at H.

Yeah, but the 4 is as close to the 7 as is the 0


So if we can't assume laziness, what else can one do?

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:43 pm
by Quest4Knowledge
Semester school.

Sorry I just want to clarify - you're suggesting if I apply with a 3.75 in January 2014 that I could possibly get WL, and then in May 2014 send them my new marks which would raise me to the 3.83 and then fingers crossed?

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:52 pm
by PMan99
sinfiery wrote:
PMan99 wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
PMan99 wrote:3.75+ 170+ should land you HYS though.


So, are we all just letting this slide, or what?


I dunno bro, go to law school numbers and see how 3.75 174 looks at H.

Yeah, but the 4 is as close to the 7 as is the 0


So if we can't assume laziness, what else can one do?


I have no idea what this post even means. You could probably look at the numbers in OP's posts and use those.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:01 pm
by Monochromatic Oeuvre
PMan99 wrote:I have no idea what this post even means. You could probably look at the numbers in OP's posts and use those.


He means it's unlikely you made a typo if you put 170 while intending to put 174.

A more accurate statement would be 3.75+/174 gives better than a coin flip at H.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:12 pm
by PMan99
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
PMan99 wrote:I have no idea what this post even means. You could probably look at the numbers in OP's posts and use those.


He means it's unlikely you made a typo if you put 170 while intending to put 174.

A more accurate statement would be 3.75+/174 gives better than a coin flip at H.


Glad you took the time to clear this up, thx.

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:59 pm
by jbagelboy
Obviously wait. Wtf. Why is this even a question? Finish schools, get straight As, have a little fun,get a decent job and apply fall 2014/work. You'll have an infinitely better cycle, and 3.8/174 stands a far better chance at Harvard than a 3.68/174

Re: Splitter - Wait a cycle? (HYS)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:12 pm
by amc987
Unless you have a very compelling reason that you need to be a K-JD student, I would wait. As others have said, boosting your GPA will help your chances at HYS and might give you more scholarship money across the board. Additionally, working for a year or two could strengthen your resume and give you something more interesting to write about in your PS than "I'm a Social Science major, I don't know what to do with my life, and I always fancied Law and Order, so please accept me law school X." I'm being facetious, but you get my drift.

I guess you could apply as a senior in college and reapply if you don't get in, but why would you want to give yourself extra work to do? If you apply when you're ready (and really want to go to law school), you only have to do the application process once.