3.3/174 w/ good WE

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3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby randal01 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:11 pm

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby randal01 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:21 pm

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby francesfarmer » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:27 pm

Hmm, it doesn't look like you'd be giving up much money.

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Given your very relevant work experience, would you be comfortable going to NU, Cornell or GULC with your career goals? You may get $ out of them, according to LSN.

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby randal01 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:23 am

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:45 am

I wouldn't ED. You are a near-lock at Northwestern, and have a good chance at Penn and NYU. Do what you can with the optional essays to make sure the Penn Adcomms know about your strong interest in attending. Columbia is also not off the table in this era of declining applications.

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby randal01 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:52 pm

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:55 pm

randal01 wrote:Thanks, I think that makes a lot of sense. I feel like the drop in apps has made outperforming your numbers, as compared to the past 5 years, a much more realistic possibility. At the same time it’s far from a certainty that you will be able to outperform, which makes the application process for splitters that much more unnerving. You know that Columbia is (albeit highly unlikely) within the realm of possibility, but getting dinged at all T-14s other than Gtown and Cornell is a possibility too. That’s going to result in a lot of huge disappointments.

I can’t tell if I’m rationalizing laziness, or just trying to be risk averse, but I would so prefer to have a school locked up by December than apply broadly as a splitter and ride waitlists till June. Although I suppose if NU is more or less a given, then it’s not so bad, since that’s an acceptable, if less than ideal, outcome.


I remember thinking the same thing, but it's really not something to worry about. Northwestern's first round of decisions comes out around the same time Penn ED acceptances get released. NYU is similar. And there's a possibility you'll be in at Duke or Michigan even before that.

I think Penn also now has a second ED round, so if shit gets weird you can always try that route in January. Otherwise just hang in there. You'll be fine.

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby Ti Malice » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:06 pm

randal01 wrote:I'm also really surprised by the results for NYU. I thought I had no chance there according to Law School Predictor.


LSP is worthless in general, and it's worse than useless for splitters. Use LSN and my LSN.

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby you'rethemannowdawg » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:18 pm

Keep in mind that as a super splitter, you are unlikely to get much money anywhere. You have a chance at some small scholarships at lower T14s and larger scholarships at some T25s.

Don't ED at first. Your cycle is very difficult to predict and you don't want to take anything off the table. Apply early and you can always do Penn's 2nd ED round if you don't like the way your applications are playing out.

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby randal01 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:34 am

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Re: 3.3/174 w/ good WE

Postby francesfarmer » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:15 pm

randal01 wrote:Thanks guys. I really appreciate all the help. I don’t want to take up too much of everyone’s time but I have a couple questions/additional info to add.

1. Two of you mentioned using Penn’s 2nd round ED if things don’t go well initially. If I did that would I need to hold off on sending a regular Penn app in early Sept when I send out apps for other schools?

2. I know I said I’m open to all T-14s, but I should add that being in the NY area is a huge plus for me as I have a long-term girlfriend who lives in NYC. After realizing that I may have been setting the bar for myself a little low, I thought I should update to say that NYU/Penn are my absolute goal schools (Columbia too but that’s a long shot) with anything else being a disappointment. With that said, does it still not make sense to throw an ED to one of them?

Is there any disadvantage to applying to NYU/Columbia RD on Sept 1, then applying to Penn ED 2 if I don’t hear back early or get WL’d, as compared to doing NYU or Penn ED from the start? Is Penn ED 2 less of a boost then ED 1? Also, I know Penn is known to give a decent boost to ED applicants, is the same true for NYU?

If you are dead-set on NYU or Penn, just ED to one of them. You're not passing up money anywhere anyway. If I were you I would ED NYU (in fact I did ED NYU with similar stats to yours, though I got waitlisted).




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