3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

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3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby JWP1022 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:27 pm

Hey everyone,

Just took the LSAT for the second time (cancelled in December unfortunately) and scored a disappointing 166 after PTing in the 174-176 range. I'm currently planning on retaking in October to get into the 170s, but I'm curious about my chances at these schools:

UVA
Michigan
Duke
Northwestern

I graduated Cum Laude with a 3.70 GPA from the #1 rated liberal arts college in the country, and with a 3.9 GPA within my major (Political Science/History/Leadership Studies). I also wrote an Honors Thesis my Senior Year. I have two years worth of work experience in Defense Contracting and Consulting. I'd likely have excellent recommendations from two of my Professors from College. I am non-URM.

I have a buddy who recently got into Duke and Michigan with similar stats (3.72 GPA, 167 LSAT), so I figure there is some kind of hope.

Would I be crazy to apply to one of those schools ED with my current stats? I have dreams of getting into Columbia if my third and final try goes as planned, but if I could get into one of these schools without retaking I would be content.
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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby Rahviveh » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:29 pm

Retake

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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby jbagelboy » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:58 pm

3.7 is cum laude at williams? Damn we had some inflated majors at my college lol. Do you assign 30% of the class for latin? 20%? Just curious

Yes you should retake for 170 and you'll be in at NYU and down (Cal a tossup)

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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby radar714 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:20 pm

def retake for those schools. With apps going down you have a chance off WL for some of these schools but nothing is guaranteed whatsoever. your friend likely got in no joke because he got 1 point higher. Take it from some1 with a 166, that 1 more point actually opens up like 2-4 more schools. As long as you're above the GPA median you'll have a chance (like cornell, georgetown). You're spot on in retaking, and if you were PTing that high you should hit at the bare minimum a 168/9 which will give you a good shot at the schools you listed.

How'd you feel about the test when you walked out? Was it a bubbling error or just a game/reading comp passage you messed up?

Seriously bro, if you're PTing that high you should be golden for an october retake and applications out 11/1. break that 170 and reap the benefits!

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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby soj » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:20 pm

retake until 170+. major GPA, UG prestige, and recommendations are irrelevant. work experience will help for jobs, but you gotta get in first. your friend might have been a special case or benefited from a clerical error or poor judgment by the adcom. don't assume you'll have similarly good luck.

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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby Magnalum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:09 am

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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby mr.hands » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:55 am

Magnalum wrote:
soj wrote:retake until 170+. major GPA, UG prestige, and recommendations are irrelevant. work experience will help for jobs, but you gotta get in first. your friend might have been a special case or benefited from a clerical error or poor judgment by the adcom. don't assume you'll have similarly good luck.


From looking at LSN, HYPS seem to actually help, and I would assume the top liberal arts school would too. Retake obviously, but still a decent shot with those numbers


I think "decent" is optimistic. OP is below the 25% of nearly every T14 LSAT and at or below the GPA median. Retake

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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby Clearly » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:18 am

Wouldn't bother applying until you get your score up. Odds aren't good at these schools, and even if you did snag an ED, you're doomed to sticker; whereas just waiting until you master the LSAT and retaking means your dream schools can happen, and these schools could have full rides to them...

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Re: 3.70/166 LSAT, shot at T14?

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:16 pm

I have almost identical numbers but 166 was my third attempt.

If you have a retake left, use it! TLS does recommend retaking for a reason.




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