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Just got December back.



Pretty overwhelmed ATM. Was prepared for a 165. Where the hell should I be applying now?

Goals: BigLaw or BigGov in the Southeast, preferably D.C. or Atlanta. Don't want New York (unless it's all I can get).

North wrote:Here's my 168-based list:

• • Georgetown:
  • Cornell (favorite, but didn't make the EA deadline :
  • BC:
  • BU: In
  • Texas:
  • Vandy (growing on me):
  • GW: In
  • ND:
  • Emory (not a fan):
  • UF:
  • FSU: In
  • UCLA:
  And, shout out to Nova:
  • WUSTL: In
  • UMinn: Waitlist

Apply CCN on down. If you really want biglaw you should probably be prepared to work in New York. If being in those locations is more important to you then that's a diff story. I'd say you are in at several lower T14 - probably NW with WE, C and G. You'll snag one of M or V and have a shot at NYU or Penn. Congrats on the great score!

Blanket T14 minus HYS, and Berkeley's silly considering your goals.

http://myLSN.info/5ji0bb

If you ED'd Penn, you'd probably get it (assuming their round 2 deadline isn't here yet). You're probably not getting a lot of money places aside from Michigan or NU if you have W/E. I might sit this cycle out and ED to NYU, honestly, though I think you'd do just as well career-wise coming from Penn.

Congrats on the terrific score!

As the other posters have said, apply from CCN on down, except for Berkeley. Chicago and Duke are also unlikely with your GPA. Not knowing your level of debt aversion, I would say that if you haven't already, you may as well apply to Texas and Vandy, too. UT is unlikely, but Vandy would probably give you a decent amount of money.

Are you set on applying this cycle? Are you thinking of applying ED to any school?

http://myLSN.info/fq22bs

Would I be insane to ED to UVA or Penn?

North wrote:Would I be insane to ED to UVA or Penn?

Not if youd be happy doing biglaw for several years in NY. I don't think you'll get big money at any T14s anyways. You'd probably get a couple lower T14s RD anyways though, so I'm not sure its necessary

Wow, I'm completely unsure of how to play this. It's a down cycle and I'm above all the medians, but it's so late...

CONGRATULATIONS NORTH!!!

Nova wrote:CONGRATULATIONS NORTH!!!

Dude, I don't even know what to do with myself right now. I was more prepared for a 160 than this.

I owe so much to you guys for convincing me to retake after October... I almost withdrew so many times between October and December.

North - last year they started throwing $$ at people late in the cycle because schools realized what a blood bath it was. I don't think you're as hosed applying late this cycle as you would have been two years ago. Apply everywhere you would go and let the chips fall where they will. I think you're in at Cornell for sure (YAY!) and probably in at a bunch of other places. I have marginally (VERY marginally) better numbers and got accepted to NYU 3 weeks after submission. I think you're looking at getting your pick of where to go below CCN. Also your PS is da bomb, so you have that going for you.

Excited to see where you end up.

North wrote:

Nova wrote:CONGRATULATIONS NORTH!!!

Dude, I don't even know what do do with myself right now. I was more prepared for a 160 than this.

I owe so much to you guys for convincing me to retake after October... I almost withdrew so many times between October and December.

Just write a Why UVA and i'm pretty sure you'd be a lock here w/o an ED.

fruitoftheloom wrote:North - last year they started throwing $$ at people late in the cycle because schools realized what a blood bath it was. I don't think you're as hosed applying late this cycle as you would have been two years ago. Apply everywhere you would go and let the chips fall where they will. I think you're in at Cornell for sure (YAY!) and probably in at a bunch of other places. I have marginally (VERY marginally) better numbers and got accepted to NYU 3 weeks after submission. I think you're looking at getting your pick of where to go below CCN. Also your PS is da bomb, so you have that going for you.

Excited to see where you end up.

Thank you for all the support dude, seriously. TLS has DRASTICALLY changed my life and I can't get over it. I'm leaning towards doing what you said and not EDing. Wow, an hour ago Cornell was a distant hope... I guess sticker scares me too much anyway.

Tonight would be a perfect night if the Gators weren't getting whupped by Louisville right now.

Sorry for getting all nostalgic/mushy and what not.

polkij333 wrote:

North wrote:

Nova wrote:CONGRATULATIONS NORTH!!!

Dude, I don't even know what do do with myself right now. I was more prepared for a 160 than this.

I owe so much to you guys for convincing me to retake after October... I almost withdrew so many times between October and December.

Just write a Why UVA and i'm pretty sure you'd be a lock here w/o an ED.

Nobody is a lock at UVA. He is likely to be wait listed there. I expect OP to get Cornell and GULC though, which is just as good

I decided not to ED anywhere (slightly regret not doing that for NW), and I don't regret it. $$$ is so important and $250k debt is a LOT. You'll get $$ somewhere and can negotiate. Start your Why UVA, Cornell (unless you wrote one!), Penn essays. GOGOGO.

Considering you're competitive for NYU on down, I would not ED in the event you get into NYU, UVA, and Penn because you can bounce scholarship negotiations between the schools.

If you're going to ED anywhere, it should be NYU or Northwestern (if you have a shot at the full ride)

So, Penn's ED deadline is two days away and my feet are getting chilly about not EDing to Penn or UVA.

Not EDing is a good decision... right? It's not too late in the cycle and I'm not going to get locked out?

I wouldn't ED unless I was totally sure I would have no regrets about it. You look competitive for NYU, and VERY competitive for 10-14 minus Duke. Michigan looks the most scholarship friendly at your level and you might be able to use that to your advantage.

You shouldn't get locked out, but if you prefer UVA/Penn to NYU then ED might be worthwhile. I wouldn't do it, but it's your call.

You could easily get locked out of the T10 - no guarantees. But I think you'll be able to hustle off a wait list in that event. If you have no preference within the lower T14 then don't ED because you'll crack at least one of NCG....

In at NYU down minus Berkeley, waitlisted at Penn and Duke. You are also going to ride the WL at CLS/Chicago. Good luck!

North - imo it comes down to debt level comfort. Do you love U Penn / UVA so much that you would pay sticker to go there? If so, I guess ED. Otherwise, apply RD everywhere and let the chips fall where they may.. I do think that with the applications being down, you may have to ride a few wait lists, but you'll be accepted to some GREAT schools (NYU, MVP, etc).

Proud of you North! Hoping to pull that same retake magic in Feb. Will be watching where you are headed!

TheThriller wrote:Proud of you North! Hoping to pull that same retake magic in Feb. Will be watching where you are headed!

Thank you man! I've seen your posts in the February thread -- I certainly never PT'd that high. You're going to wreck it.

fruitoftheloom wrote:North - imo it comes down to debt level comfort. Do you love U Penn / UVA so much that you would pay sticker to go there? If so, I guess ED. Otherwise, apply RD everywhere and let the chips fall where they may.. I do think that with the applications being down, you may have to ride a few wait lists, but you'll be accepted to some GREAT schools (NYU, MVP, etc).

See, that's just it. I'm not entirely in love with either. If I could combine UVA's placement in the Southeast and it's location in Charlottesville with Penn's nerdy student culture, smaller class, interdisciplinary offerings (Wharton & Fels), and ivy preftige, I'd have the perfect school. But I still wouldn't want to pay sticker anywhere.

Sigh. I'm just afraid of getting locked out. Letting the 173 ride late in the cycle like this is scary.

Where is rad lulz?

North wrote:

TheThriller wrote:Proud of you North! Hoping to pull that same retake magic in Feb. Will be watching where you are headed!

Thank you man! I've seen your posts in the February thread -- I certainly never PT'd that high. You're going to wreck it.

fruitoftheloom wrote:North - imo it comes down to debt level comfort. Do you love U Penn / UVA so much that you would pay sticker to go there? If so, I guess ED. Otherwise, apply RD everywhere and let the chips fall where they may.. I do think that with the applications being down, you may have to ride a few wait lists, but you'll be accepted to some GREAT schools (NYU, MVP, etc).

See, that's just it. I'm not entirely in love with either. If I could combine UVA's placement in the Southeast and it's location in Charlottesville with Penn's nerdy student culture, smaller class, interdisciplinary offerings (Wharton & Fels), and ivy preftige, I'd have the perfect school. But I still wouldn't want to pay sticker anywhere.

Sigh. I'm just afraid of getting locked out. Letting the 173 ride late in the cycle like this is scary.

Keep in mind that your likely not looking at big scholarships - I'd estimate 40-50k. So you're still going to be 200k in the whole and needing big law to pay it off.

If your situation makes P or UVA preferable (whether for southern placement or whatever) then I think ED is a rational decision. But if you're content with NCG, then don't ED.

WhiteyCakes wrote:Where is rad lulz?

Probably chilling with Grizz. But: