What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

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What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby yeswecan12 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:06 pm

What are my chances with a 166 and 3.5 at a top 15 school with good college extra curriculars (D3 football and student government) and 2 years of work experience in politics (both campaigns and legislative)? I sent in apps the first week of December to:
Harvard
BC
BU
UVA
Cornell
WashU
USC
GW
AU
Tulane
Northeastern

WanderingPondering
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Re: What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby WanderingPondering » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:19 pm

In at BC, wash u, au, Tulane, northeastern.

Probably in bu

Maybe in gw

Out Cornell, Harvard.

Oh, and lawschoolnumbers.com

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Re: What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:21 pm

IMO:

Harvard - Out
BC - WL/Out
BU - WL/Out
UVA - Out
Cornell - Out
WashU - Out
USC - Out
GW - Out
AU - In (or WL/YP)
Tulane - In w/ Scholarship
Northeastern - In w/ Scholarship

See:

http://myLSN.info/11jqqy and http://myLSN.info/tg39qn

ETA: Oops, thought you had a 165. Your chances are probably slightly better than this.
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Re: What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby dingbat » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:23 pm

This will be Harvard's reaction:
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Re: What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby Ti Malice » Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:41 pm

If there was ever someone who should retake, it's you. (Your ECs and work experience will have no influence on your cycle).

You have decent shots at BC and BU. You're very likely out everywhere else but AU, Tulane, and Northeastern, which have employment prospects ranging from bad (Tulane) to terrible (Northeastern) to catastrophically abysmal (AU). BC and BU are not worth attending without substantial scholarship money.

Here's how applicants with your numbers have done in recent cycles: http://myLSN.info/hxgv92.

Increasing your LSAT by just four points would open up much of the lower T14 to you (and could result in significant scholarship offers at GW, BU, and BC): http://myLSN.info/vuewff. Jumping up to a 172 very likely gets you into NYU and lands you some money in the lower T14. Studying hard and retaking the LSAT could result in a difference of hundreds of thousands of dollars in career earnings.

There's the further issue of the odd assortment of schools you've settled on, but at this point that's mostly secondary to getting you to see the utter inanity of not retaking.

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Re: What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby suralin » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:00 pm

Ti Malice wrote:If there was ever someone who should retake, it's you. (Your ECs and work experience will have no influence on your cycle).

You have decent shots at BC and BU. You're very likely out everywhere else but AU, Tulane, and Northeastern, which have employment prospects ranging from bad (Tulane) to terrible (Northeastern) to catastrophically abysmal (AU). BC and BU are not worth attending without substantial scholarship money.

Here's how applicants with your numbers have done in recent cycles: http://myLSN.info/hxgv92.

Increasing your LSAT by just four points would open up much of the lower T14 to you (and could result in significant scholarship offers at GW, BU, and BC): http://myLSN.info/vuewff. Jumping up to a 172 very likely gets you into NYU and lands you some money in the lower T14. Studying hard and retaking the LSAT could result in a difference of hundreds of thousands of dollars in career earnings.

There's the further issue of the odd assortment of schools you've settled on, but at this point that's mostly secondary to getting you to see the utter inanity of not retaking.


+1

Also, OP, your undergrad does not matter (I'm guessing it wasn't HYP by the way you phrased it).

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Re: What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby Nova » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:18 pm

Nova wrote:Harvard Out
BC In
BU WL/In
UVA Out
Cornell Out
WashU Out
USC Out
GW Out
AU In
Tulane In
Northeastern In

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Re: What are my chances, 166, 3.5 at top 15 school?

Postby WanderingPondering » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:49 am

Ti Malice wrote:
Here's how applicants with your numbers have done in recent cycles: http://myLSN.info/hxgv92.

Increasing your LSAT by just four points would open up much of the lower T14 to you (and could result in significant scholarship offers at GW, BU, and BC): http://myLSN.info/vuewff. Jumping up to a 172 very likely gets you into NYU and lands you some money in the lower T14. Studying hard and retaking the LSAT could result in a difference of hundreds of thousands of dollars in career earnings.

There's the further issue of the odd assortment of schools you've settled on, but at this point that's mostly secondary to getting you to see the utter inanity of not retaking.


This cycle is not like recent cycles. Applications are way down and OP will have better results than previous applicants with similar numbers. IMO, you are in everywhere with some money to every school with a median of 166 and below. A 169 will open up bottom of the T14 and a 170+ will begin to open some of the rest.




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