What makes a great soft?

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gettingerdone
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What makes a great soft?

Postby gettingerdone » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:54 pm

Hi Guys! I'm interested in applying to Berkeley and have a good GPA and am writing the LSAT in Oct. With Boalt's emphasis on softs, I'm wondering what exactly constitutes good softs by Boalt's standards. Thanks for the help!

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby gettingerdone » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:55 pm

Also sorry if this is in the wrong category....wasn't exactly sure where to put it

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby St.Remy » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:04 pm

Would the law school want to brag about having a student with that soft? If yes, it's a good soft. If no, then it won't hurt you but it won't help either.

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby Liquox » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:35 pm

imagine some guy saying "our students are more than just law students. they are also ___"

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby triplectz » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:57 pm

INVESTMENT BANKERS???

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby tofuspeedstar » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:18 pm

Olympic Athlete
Olympic Medalist
Published Author


etc...things along those lines.

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby 02889 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:20 pm

I know it's the TLS consensus, but I have difficult believing it's really the case that if you're not an Olympic athlete, your WE/softs are close to irrelevant. It's counter-intuitive that someone would say "it won't hurt you, but it won't help either" about all non-epic softs, regardless of what they are.

I'm betting that people with interesting experiences that can tie it into a compelling narrative are much better off than people with no softs/WE or people who volunteer at an animal shelter every few months but have nothing to say about it.

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby T14hoping » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:37 pm

02889 wrote:I know it's the TLS consensus, but I have difficult believing it's really the case that if you're not an Olympic athlete, your WE/softs are close to irrelevant. It's counter-intuitive that someone would say "it won't hurt you, but it won't help either" about all non-epic softs, regardless of what they are.

I'm betting that people with interesting experiences that can tie it into a compelling narrative are much better off than people with no softs/WE or people who volunteer at an animal shelter every few months but have nothing to say about it.


The guy volunteering at an animal shelter every few months can turn that into an interesting experience for law school admissions purposes.

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby Ixiion » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:15 am

Out of curiosity, do personal things count as softs too, or is it just work exp and things of that ilk? Like, say you've lived in 6 entirely different countries and learned the languages, is that interesting enough to be a soft? Or say one of your parents died mid-semester, you're under 21, losing all your financial support and landing you essentially on your own money-wise and everything else-wise, and then acing university... does that count?
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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby BlaqBella » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:21 am

Ixiion wrote:Out of curiosity, do personal things count as softs too, or is it just work exp and things of that ilk? Like, say you've lived in 6 entirely different countries and learned the languages, is that interesting enough to be a soft? Or say your parent died mid-semester, you're under 21, losing all your financial support and landing you essentially on your own money-wise and everything else-wise, and then acing university... does that count?


Yes, it can. It's part of the "diversity" that schools look for. The more nontraditional, the better.

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby Ixiion » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:24 am

BlaqBella wrote:
Ixiion wrote:Out of curiosity, do personal things count as softs too, or is it just work exp and things of that ilk? Like, say you've lived in 6 entirely different countries and learned the languages, is that interesting enough to be a soft? Or say your parent died mid-semester, you're under 21, losing all your financial support and landing you essentially on your own money-wise and everything else-wise, and then acing university... does that count?


Yes, it can. It's part of the "diversity" that schools look for. The more nontraditional, the better.


Awesome, thanks. Would you imagine things like that are decent/good softs or weak ones?

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Re: What makes a great soft?

Postby top30man » Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:29 pm

02889 wrote:I know it's the TLS consensus, but I have difficult believing it's really the case that if you're not an Olympic athlete, your WE/softs are close to irrelevant. It's counter-intuitive that someone would say "it won't hurt you, but it won't help either" about all non-epic softs, regardless of what they are.

I'm betting that people with interesting experiences that can tie it into a compelling narrative are much better off than people with no softs/WE or people who volunteer at an animal shelter every few months but have nothing to say about it.

Softs will rarely, if ever, overcome a good lsat score. The 170/4.0 with 0 softs beasts out the 166/3.7 with exceptional softs 99 times out of 100.




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