2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

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aztx1991
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2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby aztx1991 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:37 pm

Hey, long time lurker.. figured I fell under "super-splitter" from this post- http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=170051

I failed every class both semesters junior year (apparently this happens when you skip the tests), and dropped my GPA from a 3.1 to a 2.2. I was never the most diligent student, and I had some personal/medical issues that caused the wheels to come off. I'm looking into possibly getting those semesters removed from my transcript, but it's certainly nothing to count on.

I've been doing a lot of research into "splitter-friendly" schools, but it seems kind of hit and miss. I'd prefer to go somewhere in Texas or Arizona, although I'd be happy to go anywhere. I'm a Chemistry major at UT Austin if that's relevant. Other than doing well from here on out, and attaching a separate statement about my GPA, does anyone have any advice for the application process?

Also, I'd love to hear from anyone who was personally in the same boat and if they got in anywhere.

Thanks!

I'll add that this is pretty disheartining:

http://www.hourumd.com/?lsat=177&gpa=2.3&money=no&urm=no&waitlist=yes&range=no

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby Nova » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:45 pm

You are a long shot at UT. They have a pretty hard GPA floor (3.5ish). However, you have a good shot at UHLC/SMU/B/UA/ASU with some money if they dont not admit you because of yield protection.

I think you should apply to NYU/Penn as your reaches. Consider ED.

NU and Georgetown should be your targets.

Other than that, apply anywhere you would be interested in because you will have a VERY unpredictable cycle.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby dowu » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:49 pm

Nova wrote:You are a long shot at UT. They have a pretty hard GPA floor (3.5ish). However, you have a good shot at UHLC/SMU/B/UA/ASU with some money if they dont not admit you because of yield protection.

I think you should apply to NYU/Penn as your reaches. Consider ED.

NU and Georgetown should be your targets.

Other than that, apply anywhere you would be interested in because you will have a VERY unpredictable cycle.


+1.

Also, are you an under represented minority? That would play a part in your admissions cycle, if you are.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby aztx1991 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:24 pm

nmop_apisdn wrote:
Nova wrote:You are a long shot at UT. They have a pretty hard GPA floor (3.5ish). However, you have a good shot at UHLC/SMU/B/UA/ASU with some money if they dont not admit you because of yield protection.

I think you should apply to NYU/Penn as your reaches. Consider ED.

NU and Georgetown should be your targets.

Other than that, apply anywhere you would be interested in because you will have a VERY unpredictable cycle.


+1.

Also, are you an under represented minority? That would play a part in your admissions cycle, if you are.


Nope, blinding white.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby dissonance1848 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:29 pm

People are being way too optimistic. Your best shots are WUSTL, UIUC, UM, UW, the traditional midwest splitter schools. You have a long shot at Georgetown (with ED). For NU, get WE for a few years, then reapply (your score is good for five years). Screw any other schools that would take you; too much debt for the job options.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby Nova » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:40 pm

aztx1991 wrote: Nope, blinding white.

Not even a tan? :lol:
dissonance1848 wrote:People are being way too optimistic. Your best shots are WUSTL, UIUC, UM, UW, the traditional midwest splitter schools. You have a long shot at Georgetown (with ED). For NU, get WE for a few years, then reapply (your score is good for five years). Screw any other schools that would take you; too much debt for the job options.

Yeah screw UH/SMU/B////UA/ASU, they suck :roll:
Who cares if they are where OP wants to live and practice :roll:

But yeah, good point about WUSTL and UMN.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby 2014 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:05 pm

I usually respect your advice Nova but encouraging OP's 2.3 to submit an app to NYU and Penn is throwing ~200 bucks into a giant black hole.
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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby bigvinny » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:06 pm

You should have gone to class.

0 chance at T14. Maybe T20, but even that is a longshot.

After all, if you skip classes in undergrad, who's to say you wouldn't do it as a law student?

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby Nova » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:11 pm

2014 wrote:I usually respect your advice Nova but encouraging OP's 2.3 to submit an app to NYU and Penn is throwing ~200 bucks into a giant black hole.


Ahh, yeah you're completely right. I was putting a ton of emphasis on the full semester of Fs due to medical reasons that dropped OP's GPA down a full point.

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Also, OP, check out this calculator, http://myLSN.info/dispresults.php?sk=vt28z
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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby aztx1991 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:14 pm

bigvinny wrote:You should have gone to class.

0 chance at T14. Maybe T20, but even that is a longshot.

After all, if you skip classes in undergrad, who's to say you wouldn't do it as a law student?


I understand. I'm not feeling entitled to Yale, just looking for advice. I'd be thrilled with top 50, honestly.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby Nova » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:16 pm

aztx1991 wrote: I understand. I'm not feeling entitled to Yale, just looking for advice. I'd be thrilled with top 50, honestly.


You are deep into the 99th percentile. Someone in the first tier will take a chance on you. Hopefully it will be a good fit.

Also, UH/SMU are just as good as, if not better than, many Top 50s because of the markets they serve.

If you have not seen this article by Samara, it is defintely worth the read, http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=162680 (How to be a successful splitter)

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby Liquox » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:42 pm

with a 177, i doubt wustl will look at your gpa. pretty sure they're the one with the 170 cut off for auto-admit

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby 2014 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:15 pm

Liquox wrote:with a 177, i doubt wustl will look at your gpa. pretty sure they're the one with the 170 cut off for auto-admit

Not even, 168+ and a pulse and you are golden for WUSTL with 45-60k to boot

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby ScrabbleChamp » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:19 pm

bigvinny wrote:You should have gone to class.

0 chance at T14. Maybe T20, but even that is a longshot.

After all, if you skip classes in undergrad, who's to say you wouldn't do it as a law student?


Have you been to the Northwestern thread? They are very "super-splitter" friendly. UVA ED may also be an option.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby CyanIdes Of March » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:30 pm

By medical problems do you mean addiction/drug related? Could be relevant to the discussion of your chances (addendums). I have a few buddies that went to UT Austin, majored in chemistry, and all failed out due to growing problems with addiction.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby North » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:02 pm

aztx1991 wrote:I'm looking into possibly getting those semesters removed from my transcript
You need to fight with the force of a thousand suns to make this happen. Do it for the 177, it deserves nothing less.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby crumpetsandtea » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:12 pm

bigvinny wrote:You should have gone to class.

0 chance at T14. Maybe T20, but even that is a longshot.

After all, if you skip classes in undergrad, who's to say you wouldn't do it as a law student?

First of all - way to state the obvious in really rude and unhelpful way. :roll:

Secondly - way to disseminate false information.

Finally - OP, your best shots at T14 are NU (with WE), GULC, and UVa. Apply broadly and as early as possible in the cycle, do every extra essay/addendum you possibly can, and make sure everything is edited over and over and over again until they are as close to perfect as they possibly could be. I have a 2.8/176 and I got into all of the 3 listed T14s (see my profile for more info). Your GPA is significantly lower, but you still have a shot because once you hit below 2.9-ish, all GPAs are pretty equally shitty in the eyes of adcomms. Feel free to PM me with questions if you have any.

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby wtrc » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:33 pm

Are there extenuating circumstances that explain the GPA, other than skipping tests?

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Re: 2.3 GPA /177 LSAT

Postby mr.hands » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:38 pm

Go to WUSTL because you'll lock in a T30 w 1/3-1/2 scholly. (unless you inexplicably sneak into the T14)




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