3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

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3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby 2013applicant » Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:26 pm

Academic record: 3.76 from a pretty good BIGSTATEU. Double major in lib arts and an honors thesis, so nothing particularly exciting.

LSAT: 178, taken once.

Other stuff: Did TFA for two years and received recognition from the organization on a national level, but not sure how much that will do for me. First generation, female, non-URM minority. I'll write a diversity statement. My husband is an associate at a firm here so I'd prefer to stay in the Windy City.

Any chance for the Rubenstein at UChicago or big enough money to take the sting out of not taking a potential HYS acceptance? What are my chances for HY? I'm assuming I'd be a lock for a full-ride at NU.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby 2013applicant » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:46 pm

bump.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby noggo10 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:50 pm

I would think very good chance at a Ruby, very good chance at H, and worth the apps to Y, S.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby admisionquestion » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:51 pm

You will get money from a T6. Beyond that its too much a black box to tell you more. I'd guess youll also pick up someone in hys.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby 2013applicant » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:02 pm

admisionquestion wrote:You will get money from a T6. Beyond that its too much a black box to tell you more. I'd guess youll also pick up someone in hys.


Thank you. My current thought is HY, Chicago, or Northwestern. Don't really have an interest in S or CN, except for scholarship negotiation purposes.


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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby Elston Gunn » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:10 pm

I say almost no chance at Ruby. They're GPA whores more than anything, and they're not going to give the Ruby to someone not above both medians. The other stuff you can see in what bernal posted, but if you want someone else to add, coin flip or slightly better shot at H, worth the apps at YS.

Hardly think you're a lock for an NU full ride, but it's certainly a solid possibility, especially if you show them you're serious. Depending on the aid you'd qualify for from H and you're feelings on employment prospects v. debt, I think you might actually want to consider the full ride ED to NU if they do that again. I don't think you'll have a clearly better option than that (awesome) outcome.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby 2013applicant » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:14 pm

Elston Gunn wrote:I say almost no chance at Ruby. They're GPA whores more than anything, and they're not going to give the Ruby to someone not above both medians. The other stuff you can see in what bernal posted, but if you want someone else to add, coin flip or slightly better shot at H, worth the apps at YS.

Hardly think you're a lock for an NU full ride, but it's certainly a solid possibility, especially if you show them you're serious. Depending on the aid you'd qualify for from H and you're feelings on employment prospects v. debt, I think you might actually want to consider the full ride ED to NU if they do that again. I don't think you'll have a clearly better option than that (awesome) outcome.


Thank you for the input. Do you (or anybody else) have any knowledge of whether the fact that my husband is an alumnus of one of the discussed schools will have an impact whatsoever?

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby AspiringAcademic » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:03 am

admisionquestion wrote:You will get money from a T6. Beyond that its too much a black box to tell you more. I'd guess youll also pick up someone in hys.

I think this is the only fair response. You'll get into Harvard and NYU, and you'll be offered at least moderate money at a T6. The rest is highly unpredictable. I got a Ruby with a lower GPA than you have, but that was a function of my softs.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby CanadianWolf » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:44 pm

Probably full ride to NU as well as a possible Rubenstein scholarship to Chicago. TFA is a strong soft. (A 178/3.70 received a Ruby this cycle with 5 years work experience/PhD according to lawschoolnumbers.com.)

Yale is unpredictable (for example, the 178/3.70 PhD was waitlisted by Yale.)

Columbia should be an option with money. NYU as well.

P.S. Elston Gunn's post above regarding Chicago is substantiated by lawschoolnumbers.com, but your TFA & national award/recognition should set you apart, in my opinion.
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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby hopper123 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:52 pm

You'll get into HY and most likely S if you have good recs and strong personal. By strong personal I mean you need to say why law. Would you deny HYS for chi with money?

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby StrictlyBusiness » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:04 pm

Even if you aren't initially offered a Ruby, you will likely get somewhere in the range of $90k from Chi, and you'd still be in the running for a Hamilton from CLS (Which I would think gives Chicago pretty good reason to up their offer). They've been pretty liberal with the $$ this year and I'd guess they will be next year as well.

Good luck with Yale, but if that doesn't happen I'd have to believe you'll get enough money from Chicago to make it your best option.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby 2013applicant » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:11 pm

hopper123 wrote:You'll get into HY and most likely S if you have good recs and strong personal. By strong personal I mean you need to say why law. Would you deny HYS for chi with money?

I would probably do Chicago with money over H just because my SO is already practicing in Chicago and this is where we are looking to stay long-term. Y is a different story if I am lucky enough to be accepted.

Also, I forgot that LSAC converts up A+s so I'm probably around a 3.8x, not sure how much a few hundredths changes things though.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby splitsplat » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:40 am

http://chicago.lawschoolnumbers.com/app ... =3&type=jd

6 applicants with similar numbers this last year on lsn

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby CanadianWolf » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:31 am

OP: A GPA above 3.80 could be significant with respect to your chances of admission to Harvard. Check the median GPAs for the Top 6 law schools. Your 178 LSAT score is above all law schools' median LSAT score & your 3.8x GPA may also place you above all law schools' median GPA (depends upon what the "x" turns out to be). If you are above both medians for any particular law school, then your chances of admission are quite high--although Yale & Stanford are still unpredictable. In short, hello Harvard & hello Rubenstein due to your recalculated, higher GPA.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby 2013applicant » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:04 am

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby Ruxin1 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:24 am

2013applicant wrote:bump


Your SO is practicing in Chicago but you don't know these answers, the fuck?

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby IAFG » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:27 am

2013applicant wrote:bump

No one has a crystal ball. You've already been told you'll get some sort of money at NU and UChi. Your husband's alum status is unlikely to help.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby 2013applicant » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:31 am

Ruxin1 wrote:
2013applicant wrote:bump


Your SO is practicing in Chicago but you don't know these answers, the fuck?


You think it is surprising that someone who graduated 3-5 years ago doesn't know the current admissions atmosphere or the competition for a scholarship that didn't even exist when he was applying to law school?

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby Doorkeeper » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:56 pm

You're in at CCN. You have a shot at H. GPA is probably too low for YS.

This being said, I doubt Ruby for Chicago. Your GPA is too low. CCN will all throw money at you though, probably at least $50-90k from each school.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby rayiner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:24 am

Doorkeeper wrote:You're in at CCN. You have a shot at H. GPA is probably too low for YS.

This being said, I doubt Ruby for Chicago. Your GPA is too low. CCN will all throw money at you though, probably at least $50-90k from each school.


ITT it's 2010. Law school apps have tanked in the last two years. OP is lock for HLS, lock for full-ride at NU, and lock for $100k+ at CCN.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:51 am

rayiner wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:You're in at CCN. You have a shot at H. GPA is probably too low for YS.

This being said, I doubt Ruby for Chicago. Your GPA is too low. CCN will all throw money at you though, probably at least $50-90k from each school.


ITT it's 2010. Law school apps have tanked in the last two years. OP is lock for HLS, lock for full-ride at NU, and lock for $100k+ at CCN.

My numbers were pretty close and I was HCCN but no more than $75k from CCN [with nothing from Columbia]. Those extra points on the LSAT will help the OP, but I'm thinking Butler at Columbia, 90k (or named scholarship if he/she applies) at NYU, and 60-90k at Chicago.

Harvard is not a sure thing with his GPA sitting under the 25% cutoff. I think he's definite for WL, but I wouldn't say definite to be admitted by any stretch.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby mattviphky » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:01 am

Doorkeeper wrote:
rayiner wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:You're in at CCN. You have a shot at H. GPA is probably too low for YS.

This being said, I doubt Ruby for Chicago. Your GPA is too low. CCN will all throw money at you though, probably at least $50-90k from each school.


ITT it's 2010. Law school apps have tanked in the last two years. OP is lock for HLS, lock for full-ride at NU, and lock for $100k+ at CCN.

My numbers were pretty close and I was HCCN but no more than $75k from CCN [with nothing from Columbia]. Those extra points on the LSAT will help the OP, but I'm thinking Butler at Columbia, 90k (or named scholarship if he/she applies) at NYU, and 60-90k at Chicago.

Harvard is not a sure thing with his GPA sitting under the 25% cutoff. I think he's definite for WL, but I wouldn't say definite to be admitted by any stretch.


OP is a she, and has already said that her LSAC GPA might be 3.8x, which will significantly change her cycle.

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:12 am

mattviphky wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
rayiner wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:You're in at CCN. You have a shot at H. GPA is probably too low for YS.

This being said, I doubt Ruby for Chicago. Your GPA is too low. CCN will all throw money at you though, probably at least $50-90k from each school.


ITT it's 2010. Law school apps have tanked in the last two years. OP is lock for HLS, lock for full-ride at NU, and lock for $100k+ at CCN.

My numbers were pretty close and I was HCCN but no more than $75k from CCN [with nothing from Columbia]. Those extra points on the LSAT will help the OP, but I'm thinking Butler at Columbia, 90k (or named scholarship if he/she applies) at NYU, and 60-90k at Chicago.

Harvard is not a sure thing with his GPA sitting under the 25% cutoff. I think he's definite for WL, but I wouldn't say definite to be admitted by any stretch.


OP is a she, and has already said that her LSAC GPA might be 3.8x, which will significantly change her cycle.

Oh, didn't catch that one. HYS, or CCN with $$$, it is for her!

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Re: 3.76/178 + TFA. Chances for $$$ at UChi?

Postby rayiner » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:15 am

Doorkeeper wrote:My numbers were pretty close and I was HCCN but no more than $75k from CCN [with nothing from Columbia]. Those extra points on the LSAT will help the OP, but I'm thinking Butler at Columbia, 90k (or named scholarship if he/she applies) at NYU, and 60-90k at Chicago.

Harvard is not a sure thing with his GPA sitting under the 25% cutoff. I think he's definite for WL, but I wouldn't say definite to be admitted by any stretch.


Law school applications this cycle are on track to be lower than at any time in the last 20 years. Even Harvard isn't keeping up its numbers in that scenario, and things like GPA 25th's are going to be the first thing to drop.

For the class entering 2006, Harvard's 25th was 3.72. U Chicago's 75th was a 3.77.




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