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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:43 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:Awesome job on the site!

I have a suggestion, though. If possible, you should display at least the LSAT/GPA for which the chart is displaying results for two reasons. 1) If you are messing around with different combinations, you can see the last one you plugged in. If you are trying 10 different combinations in a row, its not always easy to remember exactly what you are looking at. 2) I've noticed a few people have linked to specific profiles on the site, and without being able to view the LSAT/GPA combo, the people who were linked there don't know exactly what they're looking at.

Great idea, it should be working now :)

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby senorhosh » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:24 am

Wow great site!!

Question: does this differentiate between ED applicants and RD?

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Unoriginalist » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:33 am

Fantastic resource, thank you!

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yardbird » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:37 am

Beat part is it works on iPhones (LSNs does not since it's flash based)

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:51 am

senorhosh wrote:Wow great site!!

Question: does this differentiate between ED applicants and RD?

Good idea - you should now be able to select to see only ED applications.

But this, again, relies on entirely user reported data.

Some people put that they applied ED to Yale, Stanford, and Harvard... though, to my knowledge, these schools don't offer such programs.

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yukos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:10 pm

What years would you guys recommend searching? I know at some point LSAT/GPA medians were radically lower, so how far back can you go before you get obsolete data?

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby bernaldiaz » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:45 pm

Yukos wrote:What years would you guys recommend searching? I know at some point LSAT/GPA medians were radically lower, so how far back can you go before you get obsolete data?


http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/Data/ ... stered.asp

Take a look at this. Maybe paradoxically the three least relevant years could be 08-09 through last year because the number of applicants was so inflated. It might make sense to go further back to get the more applicable cycles.

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yukos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:25 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
Yukos wrote:What years would you guys recommend searching? I know at some point LSAT/GPA medians were radically lower, so how far back can you go before you get obsolete data?


http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/Data/ ... stered.asp

Take a look at this. Maybe paradoxically the three least relevant years could be 08-09 through last year because the number of applicants was so inflated. It might make sense to go further back to get the more applicable cycles.


God I hope that's true...

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:27 pm

bernaldiaz wrote:
Yukos wrote:What years would you guys recommend searching? I know at some point LSAT/GPA medians were radically lower, so how far back can you go before you get obsolete data?


http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/Data/ ... stered.asp

Take a look at this. Maybe paradoxically the three least relevant years could be 08-09 through last year because the number of applicants was so inflated. It might make sense to go further back to get the more applicable cycles.

See, that's what I was thinking too.

But if I just select the most recent cycle, my chances decrease significantly everywhere at Michigan, Duke, and Northwestern.

I'm wondering if that will change, though, as waitlists continue to move.

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:47 pm

Compare my numbers 2003-2012 to my numbers 2011-2012.

Obviously the sample size for the latter is much smaller, of course. And I suppose there are less dings, and a lot more waitlists.

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yukos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:57 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:Compare my numbers 2003-2012 to my numbers 2011-2012.

Obviously the sample size for the latter is much smaller, of course. And I suppose there are less dings, and a lot more waitlists.


Staying with your stats, 2011/12 is a bloodbath compared to 06/07+07/08+08/09 (http://www.mylsn.info/dispresults.php) (I chose those years because they had application numbers close to 2011/12). Apps should fall further this year, but it still looks like we're closer to 10/11 than 07/08.

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby soccer88 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:46 pm

Is there any way that your program could also spit out the medians of LSN users for each school....I've always thought it would be useful to run a comparative analysis of LSN's medians compared to those released by the school

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:28 pm

soccer88 wrote:Is there any way that your program could also spit out the medians of LSN users for each school....I've always thought it would be useful to run a comparative analysis of LSN's medians compared to those released by the school


I actually made a report related to that, which was published on LSAT blog yesterday.

You can check out the post here: http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/la ... .html#more

and the graph here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwfr5qu ... edit?pli=1

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby soccer88 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:15 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
soccer88 wrote:Is there any way that your program could also spit out the medians of LSN users for each school....I've always thought it would be useful to run a comparative analysis of LSN's medians compared to those released by the school


I actually made a report related to that, which was published on LSAT blog yesterday.

You can check out the post here: http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/la ... .html#more

and the graph here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwfr5qu ... edit?pli=1



This is great, thanks. More or less what I expected

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yukos » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:20 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
soccer88 wrote:Is there any way that your program could also spit out the medians of LSN users for each school....I've always thought it would be useful to run a comparative analysis of LSN's medians compared to those released by the school


I actually made a report related to that, which was published on LSAT blog yesterday.

You can check out the post here: http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/la ... .html#more

and the graph here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwfr5qu ... edit?pli=1


So to clarify: you say Yale's LSAT median will fall one point. That means, according to your chart, it will fall to 173?

I ask because according to USNews (which I believe has the official medians since they need real results for the rankings) Yale's medians last year were 173. A one point drop would obviously bring that down to 172, but I guess your chart means "one point drop relative to the previously estimated LSN median."

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:25 pm

Yukos wrote:
LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
soccer88 wrote:Is there any way that your program could also spit out the medians of LSN users for each school....I've always thought it would be useful to run a comparative analysis of LSN's medians compared to those released by the school


I actually made a report related to that, which was published on LSAT blog yesterday.

You can check out the post here: http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/la ... .html#more

and the graph here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwfr5qu ... edit?pli=1


So to clarify: you say Yale's LSAT median will fall one point. That means, according to your chart, it will fall to 173?

I ask because according to USNews (which I believe has the official medians since they need real results for the rankings) Yale's medians last year were 173. A one point drop would obviously bring that down to 172, but I guess your chart means "one point drop relative to the previously estimated LSN median."


Yea, 100% based on LSN, so no guarantees about any correlation with the actual numbers.

If you look at a lot of the numbers, they're VERY different from the reported values (almost all higher, I think).

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yukos » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:32 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
Yukos wrote:
LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
soccer88 wrote:Is there any way that your program could also spit out the medians of LSN users for each school....I've always thought it would be useful to run a comparative analysis of LSN's medians compared to those released by the school


I actually made a report related to that, which was published on LSAT blog yesterday.

You can check out the post here: http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/la ... .html#more

and the graph here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwfr5qu ... edit?pli=1


So to clarify: you say Yale's LSAT median will fall one point. That means, according to your chart, it will fall to 173?

I ask because according to USNews (which I believe has the official medians since they need real results for the rankings) Yale's medians last year were 173. A one point drop would obviously bring that down to 172, but I guess your chart means "one point drop relative to the previously estimated LSN median."


Yea, 100% based on LSN, so no guarantees about any correlation with the actual numbers.

If you look at a lot of the numbers, they're VERY different from the reported values (almost all higher, I think).


Copy, thanks. Hoping the real medians follow this trend, even if the exact numbers are different...

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LargeNinCharge » Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:05 pm

Yo dawg, for real, you are the man/woman. This is awesome, many thanks.

I'm gonna spread the word around my UG to try and get you some ad revenue.

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:28 am

LargeNinCharge wrote:Yo dawg, for real, you are the man/woman. This is awesome, many thanks.

I'm gonna spread the word around my UG to try and get you some ad revenue.


Thank you! I need to get ads first, though :/ Google adsense says that I don't have enough content.

Speaking of content... I just added these graphs that are, IMO, a fun way to visualize the data. If you go to the main page you can click on the link to graphs, then click on a school and it will show you the graph. You can hover over a part of the graph and it will tell you the associated LSAT/GPA numbers and the percentage of people accepted. I'll make this adjustable soon, so you can restrict it to early apps, different years, etc.

Check out UVA, for example. YP like a mofo.

Edit: note that if I had testing phases on the website, this would still be "beta testing". As in, these graphs could be broken in countless ways. But I don't think they are...

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:32 am

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
LargeNinCharge wrote:Yo dawg, for real, you are the man/woman. This is awesome, many thanks.

I'm gonna spread the word around my UG to try and get you some ad revenue.


Thank you! I need to get ads first, though :/ Google adsense says that I don't have enough content.

Speaking of content... I just added these graphs that are, IMO, a fun way to visualize the data. If you go to the main page you can click on the link to graphs, then click on a school and it will show you the graph. You can hover over a part of the graph and it will tell you the associated LSAT/GPA numbers and the percentage of people accepted. I'll make this adjustable soon, so you can restrict it to early apps, different years, etc.

Check out UVA, for example. YP like a mofo.

Edit: note that if I had testing phases on the website, this would still be "beta testing". As in, these graphs could be broken in countless ways. But I don't think they are...


I don't really understand the graphs. Maybe because I'm on an iPad?

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:36 am

bernaldiaz wrote:
LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
LargeNinCharge wrote:Yo dawg, for real, you are the man/woman. This is awesome, many thanks.

I'm gonna spread the word around my UG to try and get you some ad revenue.


Thank you! I need to get ads first, though :/ Google adsense says that I don't have enough content.

Speaking of content... I just added these graphs that are, IMO, a fun way to visualize the data. If you go to the main page you can click on the link to graphs, then click on a school and it will show you the graph. You can hover over a part of the graph and it will tell you the associated LSAT/GPA numbers and the percentage of people accepted. I'll make this adjustable soon, so you can restrict it to early apps, different years, etc.

Check out UVA, for example. YP like a mofo.

Edit: note that if I had testing phases on the website, this would still be "beta testing". As in, these graphs could be broken in countless ways. But I don't think they are...


I don't really understand the graphs. Maybe because I'm on an iPad?

Oh, yeah, I'd think they'd be hard to use on an iPad. The general idea is that the graph displays the percentage of applicants that got into any school with a given LSAT and GPA since 2007.

It would be weird on an iPad because you navigate the graphs (know where LSAT and GPA ranges are) by hovering over different areas. That is, when you hover over an area, there's a text field at the bottom that tells you what LSAT and GPA score and acceptance rate that area is associated with.

It's kinda hard to explain. Maybe check out out next time you're on a computer?

And I'll try to think of a way to get it to work on iPads and iPods and whatnot...

Edit: Okay, I made it so you can plot a point on the graph. So, if you enter your LSAT and GPA, it will make a point blue, and you can see where you are relative to other points. But I still think the whole concept works better on a computer...

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yukos » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:16 am

OK I feel dumb but where's the link. I checked the landing page, the input data page and the output page and can't find any new links :/

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:18 am

Yukos wrote:OK I feel dumb but where's the link. I checked the landing page, the input data page and the output page and can't find any new links :/

It could be that you need to clear your cache.

But here's a direct link: --LinkRemoved--

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby bernaldiaz » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:28 am

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:
Yukos wrote:OK I feel dumb but where's the link. I checked the landing page, the input data page and the output page and can't find any new links :/

It could be that you need to clear your cache.

But here's a direct link: --LinkRemoved--


They look great. I think the reason I wasn't following them at first was because the two I first looked at we're Yale (blakbox) and UVA (YP kings) so no trends were readily apparent.

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Re: myLSN.info

Postby Yukos » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:33 am

Yep got it now. I think this is really cool.

1) It instantly demonstrates how black boxy admissions at a certain school is. Compare Stanford's graph with Harvard's and it's immediately obvious that Harvard is much more numbers based.

2) It's a lot easier to debate retaking with this chart. I can immediately see what benefit a 1, 2, 5 point increase would have on my chances.

3) It reminds me that sometimes the sample size is really small, and I shouldn't take LSN as gospel. My chances at a school dropped 10% (theoretically) if I increased my LSAT 2 points...

4) Most of the charts remind me of a map of the Russian Empire, maybe with a little Western Europe thrown in. I think that means I'm a nerd.

Thanks again!




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