3.57 GPA at top-5 liberal arts college

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3.57 GPA at top-5 liberal arts college

Postby KJenks12 » Thu May 17, 2012 1:09 am

1. How well must I score on LSAT to make a T-25 reasonable or even crack T-14?

2. How important is undergrad college to the entire admissions process?

Thank you!

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Re: 3.57 GPA at top-5 liberal arts college

Postby rinkrat19 » Thu May 17, 2012 1:13 am

KJenks12 wrote:1. How well must I score on LSAT to make a T-25 reasonable or even crack T-14?

2. How important is undergrad college to the entire admissions process?

Thank you!

1. Lawschoolnumbers.com
Lawschoolpredictor.com

2. Almost as important as your favorite color and slightly more important than your astrological sign.

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Postby Systematic1 » Thu May 17, 2012 2:26 am

rinkrat19 wrote:2. Almost as important as your favorite color and slightly more important than your astrological sign.


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Postby CanadianWolf » Thu May 17, 2012 10:00 am

Law school admissions is almost entirely numbers based--and the relevant numbers do not include the current USNews ranking of your undergraduate school. Law school admissions focus on LSAT score & undergraduate GPA & whether or not you have any felony convictions or are awaiting trial.

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Postby echamberlin8 » Thu May 17, 2012 2:29 pm

To answer your first question, instead of just sending you to a Web site rudely like everyone else on this site, I'd say you need about a 168 or a 169 to crack the T14 with your GPA (unless you're a minority). I'm less sure about the numbers for the T25, but probably a 165 or thereabouts?

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Postby Nova » Thu May 17, 2012 3:01 pm

echamberlin8 wrote:To answer your first question, instead of just sending you to a Web site rudely like everyone else on this site, I'd say you need about a 168 or a 169 to crack the T14 with your GPA (unless you're a minority). I'm less sure about the numbers for the T25, but probably a 165 or thereabouts?


Its not rude. LSN is a great resource. Give a man a fish... feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish... feed him for a life time.

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Re: 3.57 GPA at top-5 liberal arts college

Postby chasgoose » Thu May 17, 2012 4:30 pm

KJenks12 wrote:1. How well must I score on LSAT to make a T-25 reasonable or even crack T-14?

2. How important is undergrad college to the entire admissions process?

Thank you!


It's not that important. If your top 5 undergrad college is Swarthmore, some schools might be more forgiving of your GPA if you have a great LSAT since they are known for grade deflation, but you still probably have to be above the school's median on the LSAT (preferably above 75%ile). If not Swarthmore and your LSAT isn't above median for the school, it's not going to make a difference.

For example, with a 174 or 175 LSAT score, you would still be a borderline candidate at NYU/CLS, but if you went to Swarthmore, one of them would probably give you the benefit of the doubt and let you in to collect your LSAT score.

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Re: 3.57 GPA at top-5 liberal arts college

Postby rinkrat19 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:52 pm

chasgoose wrote:
KJenks12 wrote:1. How well must I score on LSAT to make a T-25 reasonable or even crack T-14?

2. How important is undergrad college to the entire admissions process?

Thank you!


It's not that important. If your top 5 undergrad college is Swarthmore, some schools might be more forgiving of your GPA if you have a great LSAT since they are known for grade deflation, but you still probably have to be above the school's median on the LSAT (preferably above 75%ile). If not Swarthmore and your LSAT isn't above median for the school, it's not going to make a difference.

For example, with a 174 or 175 LSAT score, you would still be a borderline candidate at NYU/CLS, but if you went to Swarthmore, one of them would probably give you the benefit of the doubt and let you in to collect your LSAT score.
They're not going to take a 3.57 from Swarthmore over a 3.85 from Podunk State U. Having gone to a highly-ranked undergrad is, at best, a tiebreaker between you and someone with very similar numbers.

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Re: 3.57 GPA at top-5 liberal arts college

Postby KMaine » Thu May 17, 2012 5:11 pm

Yeah, you need about a 168 - 169 to have a decent shot at the t14. Your undergrad will have a very small impact on admissions (and may give you a little boost in financial aid, esp as you move down the rankings). People on here, only slightly exaggerate the irrelevance of undergrad institution. By this I mean, if somebody else went to Podunk U. and had a gpa slightly higher than yours but still within the same band (quartile), I think you get in and they don't.

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Re: 3.57 GPA at top-5 liberal arts college

Postby echamberlin8 » Fri May 18, 2012 12:13 pm

Nova wrote:
echamberlin8 wrote:To answer your first question, instead of just sending you to a Web site rudely like everyone else on this site, I'd say you need about a 168 or a 169 to crack the T14 with your GPA (unless you're a minority). I'm less sure about the numbers for the T25, but probably a 165 or thereabouts?


Its not rude. LSN is a great resource. Give a man a fish... feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish... feed him for a life time.


I agree that no one has done it rudely in this thread, but you have to admit, sometimes people are jerks about it.

I do agree with the principle, however, just not with its application on here sometime.




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